Re: [PD] average Signal block by block
wait a second what are these signal blocks like that you want to average over? Is it in fact a continuous signal, or are they actually independent measurements of the same (phase-locked) data? (If it's continuous data, you probably do not want this kind of approach) Chuck second one, thats why stuff like FIR~ or maverage~ don't work for me ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] open a subpatch with toxy
m.weiss a écrit : salut ive played a little bit and found this by trial and error patch is attached maybe it is possible to make this more elegant? salut, This would be more elegant if we wouldn't have to use an external for doing this. Patcu ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Find Last Error
it never finds my errors anyway :( ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Re: [PD-ot] how low (latency) can you go?
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Patco wrote: Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : When the latency is changed, the musician has to retrain to a different compensation delay, and that's more tiresome than not having to retrain. Seriously, it's not really a problem to have any amount of latency (even one million year) when there is a single musician. If the musician can concentrate on the fingers rather than what is heard, fine (but that needs to be a good player). However I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about a player trying to fit in a group, hopefully with one central sound output or at least sound outputs that are close to each other. The player has to keep always the same advance; he/she heard the previous notes from other player and needs to play something that will fit with what will be heard from those people at the time in the future when it'll be played. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce], Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6 released
So far so good here for the OS X i386 version (running on a MacBook Pro). Previously-noted xsample errors on startup (misaligned architercture...), but otherwise clean and solid. Phil Stone UC Davis ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
RE: [PD] how low (latency) can you go?
I just thought I would chime in my under informed opinion I can not get the latency below 70 or so mSec, on a Core2, 2.6G Is it the port audio interface to ASIO that makes ASIO so slow?? Or is there something that I am not going correctly. (This has probably been discussed a million time sorry for the redundancy..) mcg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mathieu Bouchard Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 10:02 AM To: Patco Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Re: [PD-ot] how low (latency) can you go? On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Patco wrote: Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : When the latency is changed, the musician has to retrain to a different compensation delay, and that's more tiresome than not having to retrain. Seriously, it's not really a problem to have any amount of latency (even one million year) when there is a single musician. If the musician can concentrate on the fingers rather than what is heard, fine (but that needs to be a good player). However I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about a player trying to fit in a group, hopefully with one central sound output or at least sound outputs that are close to each other. The player has to keep always the same advance; he/she heard the previous notes from other player and needs to play something that will fit with what will be heard from those people at the time in the future when it'll be played. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] midi strange problem
hello, i made more test. i've got the same problem with an other fastlane midi interface on my computer. i do not have any problem with this interface and pd on osX. i don't have problem with a M4U midi interface on my computer. so i think the bug is on the fastlane linux driver (at least under ubuntu). cyrille cyrille henry a écrit : hello, i've got a strange problem when i send midi control change. the problem is that i did not receive exactly what i send over a midi loop. attachement is a patch explaining the problem. you need a midi out and a midi in device in order to test it. i don't know if the problem comes from pd, or my midi interface (motu fastlane). can anyone test this patch? thanks Cyrille #N canvas 929 135 693 479 10; #X obj 22 185 ctlin; #X obj 24 66 random 128; #X obj 24 20 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 ; #X obj 81 239 print midi_error; #X text 142 92 send random value over midi \, CC1; #X text 22 135 Please \, connect your midi out to midi in; #X text 102 184 we should receive exactly what is send.; #X obj 24 45 metro 5; #X obj 24 91 ctlout 1; #X obj 37 214 route 1; #X text 102 212 so \, we should not have any other message than CC1 ; #X text 203 239 with my computer \, i do have some midi error \, if i wait a few minutes.; #X text 21 281 Tested on ubuntu linux (dapper) \, pd 0.40.2 \, with a MOTU fastlane MIDI interface and a DELL M70 laptop.; #X connect 0 1 9 0; #X connect 1 0 8 0; #X connect 2 0 7 0; #X connect 7 0 1 0; #X connect 9 1 3 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Re: [PD-ot] how low (latency) can you go?
Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : Seriously, it's not really a problem to have any amount of latency (even one million year) when there is a single musician. If the musician can concentrate on the fingers rather than what is heard, fine (but that needs to be a good player). The musician don't have to concentrate on what is heard at all, at the moment he is able to hear what he is playing, but the problem he could meet would be about having a mix of his sound and the delayed sound. However I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about a player trying to fit in a group, hopefully with one central sound output or at least sound outputs that are close to each other. The player has to keep always the same advance; he/she heard the previous notes from other player and needs to play something that will fit with what will be heard from those people at the time in the future when it'll be played. That is exactely what I am saying and what involves composition or style problems. The composer could compute himself the latency between each musician and beetween instruments groups, or between an orchestra and the director, or between the whole thing and the public, even between different listening points in the public. Patco. ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
RE: [PD] how low (latency) can you go?
On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 11:19 -0600, Michael Garrett wrote: I can not get the latency below 70 or so mSec, on a Core2, 2.6G Is it the port audio interface to ASIO that makes ASIO so slow?? no, it's miller's pablio to portaudio bridge tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 96771783 http://www.mokabar.tk The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes Awww! Jack Kerouac signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] videos using mapping lib
hello, here are few videos of movement sonification. i used pd + the mapping abstractions for the relations between embeded sensors and sound (or light). http://drpichon.free.fr/ch/data/LAURE%20combat%20capteurs%20sons%20lumiere3.mov http://drpichon.free.fr/ch/data/LILOU%20combat%20capteurs%20sons4.mov http://drpichon.free.fr/ch/data/BABS%20combat%20capteurs%20sons5.mov more infos and description of the project (french) : http://mylene.benoit.free.fr/ cyrille ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] speed
http://aug.ment.org/readanysf/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone know an object to play soundfiles at different speeds in like milliseconds i guess that doesnt draw from a buffer? -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 65: Emphasize differences ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Find Last Error
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:33:39 +0900 hard off [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it never finds my errors anyway :( Maybe that means you never have any ;) ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] DesireData 0.40.pre5
.-. | http://artengine.ca/desiredata/download/desiredata-0.40.pre5.tar.gz | `-' DesireData 0.40.pre5 (2006.12.19) (-r desiredata; ./configure make) : * merged changes from Miller's pd 0.40-2 (80% of it) * new canvas method reply_with of canvases replaces the implicit reply-matching of pre4. (even less bug-prone) * server-side wires and scalars appear to client just like other objects. * floatatom,symbolatom,[nbx] use normal Tk text edition just like ObjectBox,MessageBox,Comment have done for a while * obsolete t_object fields removed: te_type te_width * global object table (crash protection for bindless .x targets) * variable width font usable in ObjectBoxes and MessageBoxes and Comments. * [hsl] [vsl] support jump-on-click again * lots of bugfixes * -console and -lang moved to Client Preferences dialog * added some more translations by Patrice Colet * removed Find menu in main window * added Find, Find Next, Find Last Error (canvas windows only) * choose between horizontal and vertical in Properties of slider or radio. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] DesireData 0.39.A.pre4
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006, David NG McCallum wrote: Then I get this error: g++ $PWD/libpd.dylib main.c -o pd /usr/bin/ld: /Users/david/downloads/desiredata-0.39.A.pre4/src/libpd.dylib is input for the dynamic link editor, is not relocatable by the static link editor again I've included a fix for this problem, by Charles Turner (vatic). Try again. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] DesireData 0.40.pre5
Hey Mathieu! On OSX intel. First I compile and get the error: cc -DPD -O2 -Wall -W -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -I../../src -o lrshift~.o -c lrshift~.c cc -bundle -undefined suppress -flat_namespace -o lrshift~.pd_darwin lrshift~.o rm -f lrshift~.o cc -DPD -O2 -Wall -W -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -I../../src -o pique.o -c pique.c cc -bundle -undefined suppress -flat_namespace -o pique.pd_darwin pique.o rm -f pique.o make[1]: *** No rule to make target `pd_darwin'. Stop. Then I remove sigmund~ from the makefile in src/, because I noticed that the makefile in extra/sigmund~ looks kind of sparse compared to the other externals in extra/. Everything seems to make fine after that. And then I'm met with this: snowball:~/downloads/desiredata-0.40.pre5/src david$ wish desire.tk Error in startup script: can't set ::tk::dialog::file::showHiddenBtn: parent namespace doesn't exist while executing set ::tk::dialog::file::showHiddenBtn 1 (file desire.tk line 955) snowball:~/downloads/desiredata-0.40.pre5/src david$ sys_vgui: lost message: pdtk_post reading startup file: /Users/david/.pdrc\n sys_vgui: lost message: set pd_whichapi 0 sys_vgui: lost message: set pd_whichmidiapi 5 bind: Address already in use (48) sys_vgui: lost message: set pd_whichmidiapi 5 sys_vgui: lost message: set pd_whichapi 0 D! On 19/12/06, Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .-. | http://artengine.ca/desiredata/download/desiredata-0.40.pre5.tar.gz | `-' DesireData 0.40.pre5 (2006.12.19) (-r desiredata; ./configure make) : * merged changes from Miller's pd 0.40-2 (80% of it) * new canvas method reply_with of canvases replaces the implicit reply-matching of pre4. (even less bug-prone) * server-side wires and scalars appear to client just like other objects. * floatatom,symbolatom,[nbx] use normal Tk text edition just like ObjectBox,MessageBox,Comment have done for a while * obsolete t_object fields removed: te_type te_width * global object table (crash protection for bindless .x targets) * variable width font usable in ObjectBoxes and MessageBoxes and Comments. * [hsl] [vsl] support jump-on-click again * lots of bugfixes * -console and -lang moved to Client Preferences dialog * added some more translations by Patrice Colet * removed Find menu in main window * added Find, Find Next, Find Last Error (canvas windows only) * choose between horizontal and vertical in Properties of slider or radio. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- __ _ _ _ __ _ http://sintheta.org ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mr peach... and a few questions (prefs and xml sockets)
On 12 Dec 2006, at 11:23 PM, Miguel Cardoso wrote: I don't understand very well how the preferences work. I removed cyclone and added the mrpeach folder in pd Startup preferences and its working now. Is there a way to add the number of folders, since all the slots are filled? it seems you are on OSX so open ~/Library/Preferences/ org.puredata.pd.plist with Property List Editor (it is optional - installed in Developer - but since you are compiling you've almost certainly installed it already) then you can add more than 10 folders quite easily, otherwise use the older ~/.pdrc method for preferences. simon ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: Bugs \ Newbie - Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6 released
Thanks for the bug report. I still need to fix the pthreadVC.dll thing. Gem should be found, I'll check on that. As for the rest, trying running the pd-settings.reg file, it says how to do that in the README. .hc On Dec 19, 2006, at 1:31 AM, Vreahli the Audio Bandit wrote: Heyas - first post here. :) Anyway - this is probably just me being airheaded and not knowing what I'm doing, but after uninstalling the old version of PD and installing the brand spanking new one, PD declares happily... ...pthreadVC.dll was not found. I noticed there was a VC2 in the directory somewhere - but I'm not sure if just renaming it will fix it. Here's some other stuff it decided to pump out - but I think I can get these to work by messing with the paths. Gem: can't load library fftease: can't load library hid: can't load library iemabs: can't load library iemmatrix: can't load library liblist: can't load library pdp: can't load library pidip: can't load library C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\vasp.dll: couldn't load vasp: can't load library --- xsample objects, version 0.3.1pre7 xrecord~, xplay~, xgroove~ (C)2001-2005 Thomas Grill --- -: can't load library I'm not sure if this qualifies as a bug or an I D ten T error, but help would definitely be appreciated. :) Thanks to anyone in advance. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Ok, this should be approaching release readiness, lots of random little bugs fixed, plus finally a regularly working Mac/Intel build. Let's stress test! Please report bugs to the bug tracker so that they can get fixed. Binaries are available for the following platforms: Debian/stable/i386 Debian/testing/i386 Debian/testing/powerpc Fedora Core 4/i386 Ubuntu/Dapper/i386 Mac OS X 10.4/powerpc Mac OS X 10.4/G4-optimized Mac OS X 10.4/i386 Windows XP/i386 The 10.3 builds will come back once I get access to a Mac OS X 10.3 machine. Windows 2000 builds should happen sometime soon. .hc - --- [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] status on intel core duo?
On 13 Dec 2006, at 4:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry if i haven't follow all discussions on the subject, but what is the status now of pd on a 64 bits architecture? more precisely, on an intel core duo It was my first excursion into Linux so not realising the problems (then lack of time to redo things) meant I installed the debian puredata packages on an AMD64 (with 64 bit Kannotix) - I have to be careful as there are a number of things that will crash it, and I have a very limited choice of codecs but it works reliably enough to go on a tour through 5 venues without any intervention from me. I use mainly Gem with 4 composite video inputs (v4l) for a quite nice video mixer with 3D object animation - all controlled from another machine with joysticks and a BCF200 via netsend/netreceive, as one of several networked machines running different projectors - so I haven't tried audio, though it seems to open jack etc without complaint. simon ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
