[PD] Toxy Widget img and relative paths
Hi all, I use widget to display an image. I use Pd 0.39.2 on Windoz Xp. I have a little problem : i cannot specify a relative path to the image, i must use [widget img img__a #src c:/Projets/aks/abs/a.gif] and i would like to use something like [widget img img__a #src ./a.gif] I've joined the img.wid file i use. I've found it in the demo_img.pd file. Another question : Does someone have or know where i could find a dll of the image external. Thanks Cheers Guillaume Rabusseau _ Avec Windows Live OneCare éliminez tous les virus de votre PC ! http://www.windowslive.fr/liveonecare/default.asp img.wid Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cpu issues
Hi Marius, from what i now 0.39.2 is not a UB, so it will run under emulation. You have to use a Intel-native version to achieve adequate performance. greetings, Thomas Am 13.02.2007 um 00:53 schrieb marius schebella: hi, I am running Pd 0.39.2-extended-test7 on a macbookpro. starting pd and doing nothing gives me 18% of cpu load! and another problem is, when I use oggcast~ and osx falls to sleep mode, then later I cannot quit pd anymore. the pd process stays alive and it happened twice to me that after some time, when I did not recognize it, that process was eating up to 150%. anybody have ideas about shutting those leaking wholes? marius. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] slicing samples
Hi Jared, Welcome to the PD list! Frank Barknecht posted a PD slicer patch a while ago. It can be found by searching the mailing list archives for 'slicer': http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-10/043536.html Chris McCormick posted one very recently: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-02/046855.html best, Jamie On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 01:49 +, jared wrote: Hello all, First post! Glad to be here. I'm in the middle of installing all of the PD goodies. I'll have some questions concerning installations and such...please bare with me! :-) First off, I'm really interested in 'slicing' up samples with PD (beat/transient detection) and rearranging them Is there an object or abstraction that I should be using to achieve this? Does anyone have any patches that they'd like to share relating to this? Thanks! Jared ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] triangle with modulation
Hi all, I want to make an oscillator giving a triangle signal with shape modulation, i.e. i want to go from a signal like |\|\|\ to a signal like /|/|/| passing by a common triangle (/\/\/\). I've found a tricky solution (i've joined the patch) but i'm not really happy with that because it makes a strange shape with very hard harmonics (instead of a triangle (going up and down smoothy) i have a jump into...) I'm not sure this is really clear, i hope the patch will be more precise... Thanks for any idea Cheers Guillaume Rabusseau _ Découvrez le Blog heroic Fantaisy d'Eragon! http://eragon-heroic-fantasy.spaces.live.com/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] slicing samples
Hallo, jared hat gesagt: // jared wrote: First post! Glad to be here. I'm in the middle of installing all of the PD goodies. I'll have some questions concerning installations and such...please bare with me! :-) First off, I'm really interested in 'slicing' up samples with PD (beat/transient detection) and rearranging them Is there an object or abstraction that I should be using to achieve this? Does anyone have any patches that they'd like to share relating to this? First off++: You may want to take a look at the archive as well. It provides more almost a decade of sometimes deep Pd knowledge. Here's a simple slicer/slice player that uses the powerful Aubio externals for beat/transient detection: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-10/043536.html A slicer that just slices using [bonk~] was posted recently: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-02/046809.html http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-02/046855.html This should give you some ideas where to start. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Instrument Design Survey
Thank you all for your very fast response to this survey, 21 responses in one evening, fantastic. The results of this survey will indeed be published as an outcome of my PhD, I will post a link to the paper to this list when it is written. As part of this work I am developing new externals for PD/Max and jMax(well maybe jMax) to aid in the instrument design and specifically the mapping process. I will post to the list when these are available. Regarding feedback, you have a very good point, I will add a feedback field to the survey, but if you have already filled it in and have some comments on the survey they are most welcome so feel free to send them to me off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks again. Matt -- matthew paradis research systems administrator mrc - music research centre department of music university of york tel: +44(0)1904-43-2435 [EMAIL PROTECTED] shift8 wrote: how will the results of the survey feed back into and straighten the pd community? will the results be published publicly? i think i can safely say we are all looking for new ideas regarding instrument creation :) i'd be super interested in hearing more about your Data Mining and Sonification work if you can talk about it! warm regards, star On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 20:26 +, Matthew Paradis wrote: Apologies for cross postings Dear All, I am currently carrying out research for a PhD in Music Technology. As part of this research I am trying to get a general idea of the current trends in the design of interactive performance systems and New Musical Instruments. I would greatly appreciate it if you could spend a couple of minutes answering the survey at the link below. http://www.my3q.com/home2/144/mdjp100/54558.phtml Regards Matthew Paradis ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] triangle with modulation
check the help patch J.05.triangle.pd ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid compatibility
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Feb 11, 2007, at 2:11 PM, João Miguel Pais wrote: There is a test version of [hidio] working on Windows, including output support. We are working on making a release. But Wacoms will only be supported by [hidio] on GNU/Linux because on Windows and Mac OS X, you have to install the Wacom drivers, which do not use the HID API, but instead their own custom API. that's a drag. there's now way to avoid that? do you know any other tablets which allow pressure/tilt sensoring? do you also know if it's possible to use this tablet and a mouse together in windows? (that is, the tablet doesn't control the pointer) I don't know the answer to either question, but also would be interested in hearing answers... The tablet and the mouse both work at the same time, so if both are moving, you get a mix of both. It's the same if you plug two or more mice into the machine, but the tablet has absolute position so the cursor jitters if it's being driven by a mouse at the same time, while the mouse relative offsets add together to make the cursor move. Wacom seem to have APIs available for the usual suspects at http://www.wacomeng.com/devsupport/index.html Martin ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] triangle with modulation
Hallo, guillaume rabusseau hat gesagt: // guillaume rabusseau wrote: I want to make an oscillator giving a triangle signal with shape modulation, i.e. i want to go from a signal like |\|\|\ to a signal like /|/|/| passing by a common triangle (/\/\/\). I've found a tricky solution (i've joined the patch) but i'm not really happy with that because it makes a strange shape with very hard harmonics (instead of a triangle (going up and down smoothy) i have a jump into...) I'm not sure this is really clear, i hope the patch will be more precise... Probably, but it's missing. ;) Anyway, J05.triangle.pd shows an example for how to make triangle waves with variable duty cycles. A longer explanation is in The Book: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/latest/book-html/node199.html Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] triangle with modulation
Thx for the direction, i gonna look for a solution to keep always the same amplitude (the signal should work for vco and lfo...). From: hard off [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: guillaume rabusseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: PD-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] triangle with modulation Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:00:01 +0900 check the help patch J.05.triangle.pd _ Personnalisez votre Messenger avec Live.com http://www.windowslive.fr/livecom/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid compatibility
do you also know if it's possible to use this tablet and a mouse together in windows? (that is, the tablet doesn't control the pointer) The tablet and the mouse both work at the same time, so if both are moving, you get a mix of both. It's the same if you plug two or more mice into the machine, but the tablet has absolute position so the cursor jitters if it's being driven by a mouse at the same time, while the mouse relative offsets add together to make the cursor move. Wacom seem to have APIs available for the usual suspects at http://www.wacomeng.com/devsupport/index.html that's unfortunately not that flexible. so if I would want to get some values from the table while playing the it, and at the same time control my patch with the mouse, it wouldn't be possible for the tablet not to control the pointer but still send in? and if I want to use the values from the click, it can happen that the table will just click anything on the screen? I guess that's a behaviour from windows, and not from this (or any other) tablet, right? João Miguel Pais ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid compatibility
Hallo, João Miguel Pais hat gesagt: // João Miguel Pais wrote: I guess that's a behaviour from windows, and not from this (or any other) tablet, right? I don't know about Windows, but on Linux/X it's possible to use a tablet independently from the mouse. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] slicing samples
On 13/02/2007, at 5.11, Alexandre Matheson wrote: drumslice.zip Nice one, Alexandre, thanks for sharing. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Intel-OSX PD-extended
Hi there I wonder if someone has similar Problems with: Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 concerning example: I07.phase.vocoder and delwrite~ an vd~ might be somethiing with pathes on my side Could you check ?? By the way how many MacBook Users might be here ?? Saluti Luigi___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid compatibility
great as ever! Stefano On Tue, February 13, 2007 12:56, Thomas Grill said: Hi all, it's perfectly possible to separate mouse and wacom tablet inputs,by capturing the wacom. The major problem is that this is can only be done by using a non-disclosed API. I was able to make an arrangement with wacom so that they gave me the relevant specs, but i'm not allowed to publish an object with open-source. It's possible to publish a binary one, though. The object is already working for MacOS but i haven't had time for Windows yet. It will be part of vibrez_pure. greetings, Thomas Martin Peach schrieb: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Feb 11, 2007, at 2:11 PM, João Miguel Pais wrote: There is a test version of [hidio] working on Windows, including output support. We are working on making a release. But Wacoms will only be supported by [hidio] on GNU/Linux because on Windows and Mac OS X, you have to install the Wacom drivers, which do not use the HID API, but instead their own custom API. that's a drag. there's now way to avoid that? do you know any other tablets which allow pressure/tilt sensoring? do you also know if it's possible to use this tablet and a mouse together in windows? (that is, the tablet doesn't control the pointer) I don't know the answer to either question, but also would be interested in hearing answers... The tablet and the mouse both work at the same time, so if both are moving, you get a mix of both. It's the same if you plug two or more mice into the machine, but the tablet has absolute position so the cursor jitters if it's being driven by a mouse at the same time, while the mouse relative offsets add together to make the cursor move. Wacom seem to have APIs available for the usual suspects at http://www.wacomeng.com/devsupport/index.html Martin ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] triangle with modulation
actually, wouldn't it make sense for the help patch to have the constant amplitude variation as default? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] slicing samples
Is there an object or abstraction that I should be using to achieve this? for supercollider there is the bbcut library... i think theres a csound version too (could be used with pd with the csoundlib~ thingy) sc pd could also communicate via osc www.cus.cam.ac.uk/~nc272/bbcut2.html all the best adam ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid compatibility
On 13/02/2007, at 12.56, Thomas Grill wrote: Hi all, it's perfectly possible to separate mouse and wacom tablet inputs,by capturing the wacom. I'm just curious. How is that capturing different from doing appropriate adjustments to X.conf on a linux system which have been suggested as possible workarounds? The major problem is that this is can only be done by using a non- disclosed API. I was able to make an arrangement with wacom so that they gave me the relevant specs, but i'm not allowed to publish an object with open-source. It's possible to publish a binary one, though. I simply don't understand why companies that make hardware like this wants to close the api like that. What gain can balance the loss of potentional users (= buyers)? The object is already working for MacOS but i haven't had time for Windows yet. It will be part of vibrez_pure. Great stuff. Can one just snap stuff/objects out of the vibrez_pure build and add it else where? Also, apart from the wee intro text on the website, can you share more info on the vibrez_pure project - especially how it differs from the other distributions? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid compatibility
On Feb 13, 2007, at 5:02 AM, João Miguel Pais wrote: do you also know if it's possible to use this tablet and a mouse together in windows? (that is, the tablet doesn't control the pointer) The tablet and the mouse both work at the same time, so if both are moving, you get a mix of both. It's the same if you plug two or more mice into the machine, but the tablet has absolute position so the cursor jitters if it's being driven by a mouse at the same time, while the mouse relative offsets add together to make the cursor move. Wacom seem to have APIs available for the usual suspects at http:// www.wacomeng.com/devsupport/index.html that's unfortunately not that flexible. so if I would want to get some values from the table while playing the it, and at the same time control my patch with the mouse, it wouldn't be possible for the tablet not to control the pointer but still send in? and if I want to use the values from the click, it can happen that the table will just click anything on the screen? I guess that's a behaviour from windows, and not from this (or any other) tablet, right? [hid] and [hidio] get the data straight from the device, so you can get data from multiple devices separately with no problem. But the OS also gets the data and uses it to move the mouse pointer. I know of no way to stop Windows from using a mouse's data from moving the mouse. In GNU/Linux/XWindows, it's pretty straightforward. .hc João Miguel Pais Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid compatibility
On 13/02/2007, at 16.14, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [hid] and [hidio] get the data straight from the device, so you can get data from multiple devices separately with no problem. But the OS also gets the data and uses it to move the mouse pointer. Ahh, a penny drops. It's not a matter of reading the data, it's solely a matter for controlling what gets to use the data. Thanks for making this straight. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Usually acoustic measurements are done with impulses, AFAIK. An ideal impulse actually has all frequencies in it, so it's useful for that kind of thing. Plus it's easy to differentiate between the initial signal and the room effects just based on time. Actually I think, engineers prefer to use frequency sweeps instead of pulses nowadays. The problem with pulses is, that they are hard to get right: You need a clean pulse and a very silent environment: The main problem with using Dirac pulses in an acoustical measurement is that as a result of their very short duration and finite amplitude, they contain very little energy, and measure- ment accuracy will be limited by the signal to noise ratio of the equipment used and of the system itself. While it is possible to use Dirac pulses reproduced by a loudspeaker in the con- trolled environment of an acoustics laboratory, this is all but infeasible in most real life situa- tions, e.g. for measuring a room or concert hall, where there will always be background noises of some sort. This is from Fons Adriaensen's LAC paper: http://lac.zkm.de/2006/papers/lac2006_fons_adriaensen_01.pdf Fons then explains sine sweeps as an alternative method: The advantage of using a sweep is that at any time we produce only a single frequency, and any distortion introduced will consist of the har- monics of that frequency only. If we use a rising frequency sweep, the harmonics will be gener- ated ahead of the same frequencies appearing in the signal. So after deconvolution, any dis- tortion will appear as spurious peaks in negative time in the impulse response, and most of it can then be edited out easily. This method's origin according to Fons is a paper by A. Farina: Angelo Farina. 2000. Simultanuous measurement of impulse response and distortion with a swept-sine technique. Audio Engineering Society Preprint 5093. It is implementes in Fons' ALIKI software, that he presented at LAC2006. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound
An excerpted acoustic study of an abandoned Soviet aircraft bunker. Max Borisov wears ear-mount binaural microphones, and I test the space with bricks and stones. Max and I found this technique very interesting, as it allows one person to literally become a human microphone, and the That is the good old Kunstkopfaufnahme (dummy head recording) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dummy_head_recording which is used for live-like live recordings http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaurale_Tonaufnahme in your case with a real head. I have to check out your recordings and place some stuff into the bunker :) Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound
That's a sweet concept, and a fun way to collaborate with active field recording. I'll have to try that (giving you guys reference cred of course)! ~Kyle On 2/13/07, Derek Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used very rough impulse recordings to do binaural placement for sounds--as well as pure abstract textures as Malte suggested--with very nice results. See soundfiles and descriptions below from Karosta Project (Latvia, 2002-3) http://karosta.edworks.net/ best, d. *** binaural.tunnel.study.1 [w/max.borisov][OGG 2min00sec 1.67Mb] http://www.gracies.org/derek/audio/field.recordings.2/binaural.tunnel.study.1.ogg An excerpted acoustic study of an abandoned Soviet aircraft bunker. Max Borisov wears ear-mount binaural microphones, and I test the space with bricks and stones. Max and I found this technique very interesting, as it allows one person to literally become a human microphone, and the other to perform for that audience/recorder [many thanks to Aaron Ximm for inspiration in this and other matters]. A clever soul might use these acoustic signatures to place other sounds in the same space virtually... *** Original Formanta EMS-01 Synthesizer improvisation [OGG 2min08sec 1.34Mb] http://www.gracies.org/derek/audio/formanta.original.edit.ogg Formanta.Drone [Surface.Noise] [OGG 7min10sec 4.92Mb] http://www.gracies.org/derek/audio/formanta.drone.edit.ogg The first is an excerpt of a live improvisation made on Maxim Borisov's Formanta EMS-01 synthesizer. This is a big, nasty Russian synth that is almost totally useless for melody, but has this amazing noise-driven Low Frequency Oscillator with an array of filters behind it. All sounds on the first track came only from this random sequencer, without laying a finger on the keys. The second track resulted from a digital cross-breeding with surface noise from an old Soviet marching record--instant texture and depth! -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 160: Towards the insignificant ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound
On 2/13/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I think, engineers prefer to use frequency sweeps instead of pulses nowadays How fast of a sweep are you talking about? Seconds or milliseconds? Is this the 50 and 80 ms bit that the paper mentions? If we use a rising frequency sweep, the harmonics will be gener- ated ahead of the same frequencies appearing in the signal. So after deconvolution, any dis- tortion will appear as spurious peaks in negative time in the impulse response, and most of it can then be edited out easily. What a great way to use an artifact of the FFT to one's advantage. Awesome! ~Kyle -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound
Hallo! Usually acoustic measurements are done with impulses, AFAIK. An ideal impulse actually has all frequencies in it, so it's useful for that kind of thing. Plus it's easy to differentiate between the initial signal and the room effects just based on time. Actually I think, engineers prefer to use frequency sweeps instead of pulses nowadays. The problem with pulses is, that they are hard to get right: You need a clean pulse and a very silent environment: Well, there are also problems with swept sines of course ... ;) Other methods are e.g. - with MLS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_length_sequence) - I think there is also an mls example in the iem_tab library. -Least Square Error methods (see system identification example in the adaptive library) - with noise (more energy than in a dirac impulse) - auto-, crosscorrelation methods - ... LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] g_save-0.1 Storage system with pool
forgotten to give the link: http://www.mrsokkido.be/~gr/g_save.html cheers _ Personnalisez votre Messenger avec Live.com http://www.windowslive.fr/livecom/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
RE: [PD] [PD-announce] g_save-0.1 Storage system with pool
Sorry... Here is the link: http://www.mrsokkido.be/~gr/g_save.html Hi all, I've just finished to make a clean release of the saving system i mostly use. It's two abstractions (a console and an object you have to create for each variable (floats or symbols) to store), you can store 16 presets (with as many variable as you want) and save them into a file. You will need pool, iemlib (dollarg) and zexy.. I tried to make a clear help file, i hope it will not be to hard to understand... [TODO : * Allow multiple instance * Allow storage of lists * A lot of other things i think...] Thx for comments... Cheers Guillaume Rabusseau _ Windows Live Messenger sur i-mode : dialoguez avec vos amis depuis votre mobile comme sur PC ! http://mobile.live.fr/messenger/bouygues/ ___ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _ Découvrez le Blog heroic Fantaisy d'Eragon! http://eragon-heroic-fantasy.spaces.live.com/ ___ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] xxxxx workshops @ Pickled Feet, Berlin
This workshop series keeps heating up, and promises to be an interesting zone of convergence for analog and electronics noise-makers alike in Berlin. d. ** * 17th February 2pm: noise_produce workshop with Martin Howse The noise_produce workshop is concerned with techniques for the elaboration of experimental noise electronics (mis-use of functional digital electronics) and a generic means of production traced from defined circuit diagram to copper-etched board. Please bring a soldering iron and any spare/salvaged electronic parts of interest. All other materials will be supplied. Course fee 15 euros includes materials. * 24th February 2pm: FM-transmitter-workshop with piradio/superfactory[TM]. How to build your own radio-transmitter, booster, antenna and if required receiver. Audio broadcast. Soldering permitted. All materials and some tools supplied. Please bring individual audio/noise, your own soldering iron if possible or inform if needed. Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://superfactory.biz/download.html http://kulturserver-berlin.de/home/piradio/funkrahm.htm * 10th March 2pm: SuperCollider with Fredrik Olofsson http://www.fredrikolofsson.com Further planned workshops will cover Pure Data connectivity, the Arduino platform, ATmega8 microcontrollers, UNIX process, documentation, GNU Emacs, VLF reception, analogue TV transmission, FPGA design... full details tbc. x, pickledfeet, Linienstrasse 54, Berlin 10119 U2, Rosa-Luxemburg-Pl. U8, Rosenthaler Pl. telephone: 3050187482. Please RSVP m_at_1010.co.uk to reserve More info: http://pickledfeet.com/workshops.php -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 109: Lost in useless territory ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] slicing samples
Hallo, jared hat gesagt: // jared wrote: First off, thanks everyone for these great suggestions! Here's a simple slicer/slice player that uses the powerful Aubio externals for beat/transient detection: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-10/043536.html I downloaded this one but I'm not sure how to open it. Is it a PD file? This one actually is not a Pd-file, but a tar.gz archive called slicer.tgz (or slicer-0001.tgz, which is the name, the mailinglist archive gave that file). 7-zip for example can open it on Windows. I'm on Windows XP. A slicer that just slices using [bonk~] was posted recently: Http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-02/046809.html http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-02/046855.html I followed the link but I can't seem to find anywhere to download. Actually (really stupid question alert) how do I download from the archives? It seems when I click download on any of the files, it just brings up a page with code. Any help? As Pd-files technically are just text files, some mailers and the mailing list archive put them into the body of the mail instead of creating a proper attachement. Here you need to copy the code to a new file and save it as a file with a .pd suffix like somename.pd. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid compatibility
The object is already working for MacOS but i haven't had time for Windows yet. It will be part of vibrez_pure. Great stuff. Can one just snap stuff/objects out of the vibrez_pure build and add it else where? In general, this is not possible for the objects that are special for vibrez_pure, because they use (at least) pd_devel features. It possible though for the objects from other authors that are just packaged with vibrez_pure. The other way around should be perfectly possible... adding object to the vibrez_pure application is described in the accompanying docs. Please note that vibrez_pure is still under evolvement, as is the full vibrez. (as is pd...) Also, apart from the wee intro text on the website, can you share more info on the vibrez_pure project - especially how it differs from the other distributions? The intention is to provide a really optimized core distro that is well documented and well-tested, with usable midi and audio interfaces and a few other bonus externals. It's only the core of the larger vibrez project, but we would be happy if people find it useful on its own. greetings, Thomas -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
RE: [PD] slicing samples
Thanks everyone for such quick and helpful responses! Much appreciated, Jared -Original Message- From: Max Neupert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:35 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: jared Subject: Re: [PD] slicing samples copy the code from the archive and paste it in your favorite text editor. save it as a .pd file and open it in Pure Data. one more thing: to start a new thread on the list don't just reply to a random message but rather make a new message to pd-list@iem.at that's appreciated. thanks. m. Am 13.02.2007 um 18:58 schrieb jared: First off, thanks everyone for these great suggestions! Here's a simple slicer/slice player that uses the powerful Aubio externals for beat/transient detection: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-10/043536.html I downloaded this one but I'm not sure how to open it. Is it a PD file? I'm on Windows XP. A slicer that just slices using [bonk~] was posted recently: Http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-02/046809.html http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-02/046855.html I followed the link but I can't seem to find anywhere to download. Actually (really stupid question alert) how do I download from the archives? It seems when I click download on any of the files, it just brings up a page with code. Any help? Thanks so much, Jared ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] g_save-0.1 Storage system with pool
Hi, I didn't really know sssad-saving system, i think i tried it once... i gonna look at how this is done and try to continue learning... But afterall, no matter, it was a good exercise. Cheers Guillaume Rabusseau From: Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pd-list@iem.at, pd-announce@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] g_save-0.1 Storage system with pool Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:48:02 +0100 Hallo, guillaume rabusseau hat gesagt: // guillaume rabusseau wrote: I've just finished to make a clean release of the saving system i mostly use. It's two abstractions (a console and an object you have to create for each variable (floats or symbols) to store), you can store 16 presets (with as many variable as you want) and save them into a file. You will need pool, iemlib (dollarg) and zexy.. I tried to make a clear help file, i hope it will not be to hard to understand... [TODO : * Allow multiple instance * Allow storage of lists * A lot of other things i think...] Nice work, but it seems to do not much more than the sssad-saving system in CVS. Additionally sssad already can store lists, allows multiple instances, is less intrusive regarding the send/receive namespace compared to g_save and doesn't require any externals. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _ Avec Windows Live OneCare éliminez tous les virus de votre PC ! http://www.windowslive.fr/liveonecare/default.asp ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Gem again - combining different-sized images?
Hi. I'm using pix_crop to create small slivers of an image to process with pix_pix2sig~ to play bitmaps. I'm interested in changing the range, however, of the visible image, so that I can change the frequency range represented by the original image without an external editor. I thought to simply overlay the existing sliver on a rectangle with the same width but different height and translation, and run pix_pix2sig~ on the result. Is there a way to combine two images of different sizes, without resizing the image? -Chuckk http://www.badmuthahubbard.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: Re: [PD] hid compatibility
[hid] and [hidio] get the data straight from the device, so you can get data from multiple devices separately with no problem. But the OS also gets the data and uses it to move the mouse pointer. I know of no way to stop Windows from using a mouse's data from moving the mouse. In GNU/Linux/XWindows, it's pretty straightforward. One way is to use a serial mouse and plug it in after Windows boots. Then the data can be captured by pd. Martin #N canvas 397 1 754 904 10; #X msg 290 63 open 1; #X text 333 63 Open serial port by number; #X msg 331 125 verbose \$1; #X obj 331 104 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X msg 79 223 info; #X floatatom 275 308 7 0 0 1 baud - -; #X floatatom 381 323 4 0 0 3 parity - -; #X floatatom 417 312 4 0 0 2 stop - -; #X floatatom 452 325 4 0 0 3 data - -; #X obj 630 308 print; #X floatatom 559 304 4 0 0 0 port - -; #X obj 489 345 tgl 15 0 empty empty rts/cts -10 20 1 11 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 523 325 tgl 15 0 empty empty xon/xoff -14 20 1 11 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X text 251 355 serial packet format:; #X obj 310 331 tgl 15 0 empty empty dsr 0 20 1 11 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 ; #X obj 346 331 tgl 15 0 empty empty cts 0 20 1 11 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 ; #X obj 275 279 route baud dsr cts parity stop data rtscts xonxoff port open; #X obj 594 319 tgl 15 0 empty empty open -6 20 1 11 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X obj 196 251 comport 1 1200; #X msg 128 148 bits 7; #X msg 111 181 dtr 1; #X msg 95 205 rts 1; #X obj 232 461 float; #X obj 232 484 + 1; #X msg 214 379 0; #X obj 178 517 pack 1 2; #X obj 214 329 = 64; #X obj 214 353 sel 1; #X obj 196 277 t f f; #X obj 196 424 t b f; #X text 237 518 index each byte in the 3- or 4-byte packet; #X obj 178 551 route 0 1 2 3; #X obj 82 606 32; #X obj 81 873 tgl 15 0 empty empty left -34 7 0 10 -44926 -355 -355 0 32; #X obj 111 606 32; #X obj 110 873 tgl 15 0 empty empty middle -14 -10 0 10 -44926 -355 -355 0 32; #X obj 140 606 16; #X obj 139 873 tgl 15 0 empty empty right 17 7 0 10 -44926 -355 -355 0 16; #X obj 169 606 12; #X obj 209 606 3; #X obj 169 629 4; #X obj 209 628 6; #X obj 196 673 +; #X obj 283 674 +; #X obj 221 727 = 128; #X obj 221 748 sel 1; #X msg 221 769 -256; #X obj 196 793 +; #X msg 252 769 0; #X obj 196 706 t f f; #X obj 308 728 = 128; #X obj 308 749 sel 1; #X msg 308 770 -256; #X obj 283 795 +; #X msg 339 770 0; #X obj 283 707 t f f; #X text 15 23 serial mouse interface; #X obj 62 67 loadbang; #X obj 79 109 t b b b b; #X obj 236 832 float; #X obj 196 832 +; #X obj 236 805 t b f; #X obj 323 832 float; #X obj 283 832 +; #X obj 323 805 t b f; #X obj 236 874 nbx 5 14 -1e+037 1e+037 0 0 empty empty x 0 -8 0 10 -44926 -355 -355 0 256; #X obj 323 874 nbx 5 14 -1e+037 1e+037 0 0 empty empty y 0 -8 0 10 -44926 -355 -355 0 256; #X connect 0 0 18 0; #X connect 2 0 18 0; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 18 0; #X connect 16 0 5 0; #X connect 16 1 14 0; #X connect 16 2 15 0; #X connect 16 3 6 0; #X connect 16 4 7 0; #X connect 16 5 8 0; #X connect 16 6 11 0; #X connect 16 7 12 0; #X connect 16 8 10 0; #X connect 16 9 17 0; #X connect 16 10 9 0; #X connect 18 0 28 0; #X connect 18 1 16 0; #X connect 19 0 18 0; #X connect 20 0 18 0; #X connect 21 0 18 0; #X connect 22 0 23 0; #X connect 22 0 25 0; #X connect 23 0 22 1; #X connect 24 0 22 1; #X connect 25 0 31 0; #X connect 26 0 27 0; #X connect 27 0 24 0; #X connect 28 0 29 0; #X connect 28 1 26 0; #X connect 29 0 22 0; #X connect 29 1 25 1; #X connect 31 0 32 0; #X connect 31 0 36 0; #X connect 31 0 38 0; #X connect 31 0 39 0; #X connect 31 1 42 0; #X connect 31 2 43 0; #X connect 31 3 34 0; #X connect 32 0 33 0; #X connect 34 0 35 0; #X connect 36 0 37 0; #X connect 38 0 40 0; #X connect 39 0 41 0; #X connect 40 0 43 1; #X connect 41 0 42 1; #X connect 42 0 49 0; #X connect 43 0 55 0; #X connect 44 0 45 0; #X connect 45 0 46 0; #X connect 45 1 48 0; #X connect 46 0 47 1; #X connect 47 0 60 0; #X connect 48 0 47 1; #X connect 49 0 47 0; #X connect 49 1 44 0; #X connect 50 0 51 0; #X connect 51 0 52 0; #X connect 51 1 54 0; #X connect 52 0 53 1; #X connect 53 0 63 0; #X connect 54 0 53 1; #X connect 55 0 53 0; #X connect 55 1 50 0; #X connect 57 0 58 0; #X connect 58 0 4 0; #X connect 58 1 21 0; #X connect 58 2 20 0; #X connect 58 3 19 0; #X connect 59 0 60 1; #X connect 59 0 65 0; #X connect 60 0 61 0; #X connect 61 0 59 0; #X connect 61 1 59 1; #X connect 62 0 63 1; #X connect 62 0 66 0; #X connect 63 0 64 0; #X connect 64 0 62 0; #X connect 64 1 62 1; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] slicing samples
hi frank, i remember playing with one of your patch like 2 years ago. it was for analysing a soundfile and cut it in 10 slices, it was working very well for me, but i cannot remember the name of this patch and where to download it. do you still have it somewhere? pat ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] output grayscale value of pixels in a video
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in Gem you could use [pix_dump] and [pix_pix2sig~] to get the pixel values. so all in all: all of the still alive video frameworks for Pd support this operation. so do you title Gem as still alive? which means for me that it is not under development anymore??? fmasd.r and could you please explain fmasd.r (one more time). marius. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Toxy Widget img and relative paths
guillaume rabusseau a écrit : Hi all, I use widget to display an image. I use Pd 0.39.2 on Windoz Xp. I have a little problem : i cannot specify a relative path to the image, i must use [widget img img__a #src c:/Projets/aks/abs/a.gif] and i would like to use something like [widget img img__a #src ./a.gif] I've joined the img.wid file i use. I've found it in the demo_img.pd file. Another question : Does someone have or know where i could find a dll of the image external. hello, did you try ../ instead of ./? and the image external should be in pd-extended, it's comes from ggee, PC ___ Marre d'une boite pleine de spams ? Adoptez le tout nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son son filtre anti-spams perfectionnés. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Sound splitter
patrick a écrit : hi chris, oh no, crashing mine (linux 0.40.2). i'll give a try pd-extended. pat ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list crashing mine too (win32 0.40-2), the kind of crash that freezes computer until the task manager is doing his job, and gives empty soundfiles. ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid compatibility
On 2/13/07, Thomas Grill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, it's perfectly possible to separate mouse and wacom tablet inputs,by capturing the wacom. The major problem is that this is can only be done by using a non-disclosed API. I was able to make an arrangement with wacom so that they gave me the relevant specs, but i'm not allowed to publish an object with open-source. It's possible to publish a binary one, though. The object is already working for MacOS but i haven't had time for Windows yet. It will be part of vibrez_pure. greetings, Thomas Ohhh, now I'm holding my breath waiting for the Win binary! My Windows machine is much newer and faster than my Linux one; so this would let me do some really cool things I can't do right now, if it was working. Not to mention I'm still an idiot on Linux... ~D ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] g_save-0.1 Storage system with pool
Hallo, guillaume rabusseau hat gesagt: // guillaume rabusseau wrote: I didn't really know sssad-saving system, i think i tried it once... i gonna look at how this is done and try to continue learning... But afterall, no matter, it was a good exercise. Yes, writing a state saving system is a really good exercise, as it touches a lot of the deep, important parts of Pd, like execution order, local and global scoping, abstractions, list processing etc. I guess you will find several of your ideas realised in sssad as well, as I saw several of the sssad idioms in your state saver. Another good one is included in netpd. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] slicing samples
Hallo, patrick hat gesagt: // patrick wrote: i remember playing with one of your patch like 2 years ago. it was for analysing a soundfile and cut it in 10 slices, it was working very well for me, but i cannot remember the name of this patch and where to download it. do you still have it somewhere? I remember one of my very early patches, which did slicing, but it's from May 2002. It's still available here: http://footils.org/cms/pms/?show_article=9 and it's probably patched in a very embarrassing way and full of execution order bugs. Don't look at it. ;) Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid compatibility
You could always use the linux box to interpret the WACOM tablet data and send it via OSC to the windows PC to use with other software if you'd like. ~Kyle On 2/13/07, David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/13/07, Thomas Grill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, it's perfectly possible to separate mouse and wacom tablet inputs,by capturing the wacom. The major problem is that this is can only be done by using a non-disclosed API. I was able to make an arrangement with wacom so that they gave me the relevant specs, but i'm not allowed to publish an object with open-source. It's possible to publish a binary one, though. The object is already working for MacOS but i haven't had time for Windows yet. It will be part of vibrez_pure. greetings, Thomas Ohhh, now I'm holding my breath waiting for the Win binary! My Windows machine is much newer and faster than my Linux one; so this would let me do some really cool things I can't do right now, if it was working. Not to mention I'm still an idiot on Linux... ~D ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] slicing samples
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 07:35:52PM +0100, 'Frank Barknecht' wrote: As Pd-files technically are just text files, some mailers and the mailing list archive put them into the body of the mail instead of creating a proper attachement. Here you need to copy the code to a new file and save it as a file with a .pd suffix like somename.pd. I've just discovered that you can fix this in mutt on Linux by creating a file called ~/.mime.types and putting a puredata entry into it like so: application/puredatapd Best rgds, Chris. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mccormick.cx ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pixel analyse _ gridflow undefined symbol
Le Mardi 13 Février 2007 07:20, pablo das neves bicho a écrit : On 2/12/07, Claude Heiland-Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pablo das neves bicho wrote: Hi list, I'd like to know if there is an object or an abstration to output the grayscale values of each pixel of a low resolution video, in order to use those value to control the behaviour of 3d objects. Should i use gridflow ? Any ideas/hints would be welcome. cheers pablo The extraction is easy with GridFlow (for example, [#export_list]), and the 3D could be done with Gem. open some_image.jpg - [#in] - [#rgb_to_greyscale] - [#export_list] - [print] Hi. I'm not having any luck finding GridFlow, or any documentation. I found a few dead links... anyone have a live one? http://gridflow.ca/ (the server was down yesterday for a few hours) -Chuckk Thank you for the answer, i'll try each of the solution to see which one fits best my needs. By experience will one of them be faster and more stable? By the way I compiled gridflow from cvs , but I can't load it: ./gridflow.pd_linux: ./gridflow.pd_linux: undefined symbol: _ZN9CPPExtern10m_holdnameE gridflow: can't load library I've tried with gcc4.1 and 3.4, on an ubuntu32 system. Sould I use the 8.4 release instead of the CVS one or am I missing something ( config is fine and find everything it needs) ... I'm running the latest cvs on such a system and everything look ok. Maybe we can troubleshoot your installation on #dataflow (irc.freenode.net)? Cheers, Alexandre pablo ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] hotkey scrolling within patches?
Hi list, Does anyone know of a good linux window manager that would allow me to scroll left/right or up/down within a pd patch with the use of hotkeys? In Gnome and Blackbox, I can scroll up and down with the trackpad, but I really need to be able to do left and right. Another side question for the programmers out there; how hard do you think it would be to add automated scrolling (such as the time cursor in daw's and whatnot)? Maybe it is possible to write an external that controls scrolling within a patch? Regards, Rich ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] installing linux
Hello list, I want to install linux on an old laptop. What distro do you guys use? Which distro is most stable for PD work? Are some distros more suited for audio apps? At the moment, I don't know the specs for the laptop.are there recommended minimum system specs to successfully operate linux running PD? Thanks all, Jared ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hotkey scrolling within patches?
On Tue Feb 13, 2007 at 06:50:53PM -0800, Rich E wrote: Hi list, Does anyone know of a good linux window manager that would allow me to scroll left/right or up/down within a pd patch with the use of hotkeys? In Gnome and Blackbox, I can scroll up and down with the trackpad, but I really need to be able to do left and right. scrolling inside PD is handled by Tk, not your window-manager. have you tried holding down shift while scrolling? that might do vertical Another side question for the programmers out there; how hard do you think it would be to add automated scrolling (such as the time cursor in daw's and whatnot)? Maybe it is possible to write an external that controls scrolling within a patch? Regards, Rich ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] installing linux
On Wed Feb 14, 2007 at 03:55:57AM -, jared wrote: Hello list, I want to install linux on an old laptop. What distro do you guys use? Which distro is most stable for PD work? Are some distros more suited for audio apps? gentoo with the proaudio overlay is great. if you have an aversion to having your computer compile things for you, you could try one of the msusic-specific dsitrii lke ubuntu-studio/demudi/planetccrma/musix/studio64/studiotogo/puredyne At the moment, I don't know the specs for the laptop.are there recommended minimum system specs to successfully operate linux running PD? 150 mhz is probably too low Thanks all, Jared ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pm mapping
On Feb 13, 2007, at 10:46 AM, cyrille henry wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : That's very nice, I want to try it with a Wacom now. Do you use tilt or pressure at all in the wacom mapping? for now, i did not use pressure or tilt. the 1st thing to do is to use the pressure to have a 0 or 1 that can replace the grab parametter. (as for now there is a quick hack in order to make this instrument work). then , i think the tilt could be use in diferent way : by exemple -changing the feedback of the karplus-strong loop -having a more complex sound input (maybe remove the pmcloud object) -changing some physical mapping parametter -... This made me think of the next step. Right now I have a synth that is producing interesting sounds, and I know I want to play with a tablet. So now I have to build a good mapping. Since I have been working on the synth, I am thinking very much in terms of the synth's parameters, which does not generally lead to a good mapping, IMHO. Any ideas about how to go about separating oneself from the synth parameters and start shaping things in terms of an instrument? I am trying to think of ways in which software would help this process. We have a nice collection of useful objects for when you know what you want to do, I guess I am thinking of what objects would be useful in assisting the processing of exploring. .hc cyrille I am also in the process of building an instrument based on recent mapping library work, watch this list for the release, I will try to make it as cool as this ;) .hc On Feb 8, 2007, at 10:09 AM, cyrille henry wrote: hello, here is a small exemple of some physical model mapping objects. the aim of pm mapping is to create some kind of dynamic mapping. this instrument is very simple, but the physical model in the mapping introduce some kind of life in the audio synthesis. idealy, it sould be play live with a wacom, but it use a gcanvas in this demo. in order to test it, you need pmmapping objets from a recent cvs update. feedback is welcom Cyrille #N canvas 203 104 1174 523 10; #X obj 30 327 loadbang; #X obj 30 354 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X obj 30 375 metro 10; #X obj 30 398 s metro; #X obj 787 -59 gcanvas 300 300; #X obj 32 -59 cnv 15 220 300 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -233017 -66577 0; #N canvas 0 0 507 357 2dimentional_input_for_the_system___ 0; #X obj 14 159 pack f f; #X obj 99 164 b; #X obj 129 194 delay 100; #X msg 99 218 1; #X msg 129 218 0; #X obj 99 246 f; #X obj 14 188 s position; #X obj 99 299 s grab; #X obj 307 23 inlet; #X obj 14 15 inlet; #X obj 14 103 min 1; #X obj 307 109 min 1; #X obj 99 270 change; #X text 162 256 this should be replace by a more robust detection of the mouses click; #X obj 14 38 / 150; #X obj 307 44 / 150; #X obj 307 70 - 1; #X obj 14 63 - 1; #X obj 14 126 max -1; #X obj 307 132 max -1; #X connect 0 0 6 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 4 0; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 12 0; #X connect 8 0 15 0; #X connect 9 0 14 0; #X connect 10 0 18 0; #X connect 11 0 19 0; #X connect 12 0 7 0; #X connect 14 0 17 0; #X connect 15 0 16 0; #X connect 16 0 11 0; #X connect 17 0 10 0; #X connect 18 0 1 0; #X connect 18 0 0 0; #X connect 19 0 0 1; #X restore 787 249 pd 2dimentional_input_for_the_system___; #X obj 262 -59 cnv 15 325 400 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -233017 -66577 0; #X obj 264 361 cnv 15 200 60 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -233017 -66577 0; #X obj 596 -59 cnv 15 180 400 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -233017 -66577 0; #X obj 601 84 unpack f f; #X obj 271 83 unpack f f; #X obj 271 131 abs; #X obj 427 131 abs; #X obj 272 399 dac~; #X obj 272 371 *~; #X obj 601 316 line~; #X obj 426 372 *~; #X obj 666 317 line~; #X obj 601 137 min 1; #X obj 666 139 min 1; #X obj 601 160 max 0; #X obj 666 162 max 0; #X obj 36 194 noise~; #X obj 44 70 unpack f f; #X obj 44 -29 t b b; #X obj 36 217 bp~; #X obj 145 193 noise~; #X obj 153 73 unpack f f; #X obj 145 216 bp~; #X obj 44 93 * 40; #X obj 44 139 mtof; #X obj 153 96 * 40; #X obj 153 142 mtof; #X obj 109 99 + 1; #X obj 218 96 + 1; #X obj 109 122 * 15; #X obj 218 119 * 15; #X obj 271 223 vd~ del1; #X obj 271 200 line~; #X msg 601 183 \$1 11; #X msg 666 185 \$1 11; #X msg 271 177 \$1 11; #X obj 427 200 line~; #X msg 427 177 \$1 11; #X obj 427 223 vd~ del2; #X obj 288 318 delwrite~ del2 1000; #X obj 444 318 delwrite~ del1 1000; #X obj 271 296 *~ -0.9; #X obj 44 -52 r metro; #X obj 271 -53 r metro; #X obj 54 -7 r position; #X obj 287 -29 r position; #X msg 287 -8 grab \$1 \$2; #X msg 306 36 grab_on \$1; #X obj 306 14 r grab; #X obj 601 -55 r metro; #X obj 617 -31 r position; #X msg 617 -8 grab \$1 \$2; #X msg 636 38 grab_on \$1; #X obj 636 15 r grab; #X text 32 -80 Audio input; #X text 264 -81 Karplus-Strong system; #X text 595 -81 Amplitude emvelope; #X obj 601 62 pmattractor_2d 0.03 0.2; #X text 789 -81 User input; #N canvas 0 0 214 277
Re: [PD] puredatabase
On Feb 8, 2007, at 10:05 AM, marius schebella wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I thought we (the potential users of the database) in this phase could brainstorm and discuss ideas on how we would like it. I think this should be generated from the meta data in the help files. For PDDP, we plan on using the help files as the central location for meta data. I would rather have content (in xml style) and layout (webformat, pdf format,...) separated object objectnamecoolobject/objectname librarycore/library descriptionblablablab/description tagsaudio,streaming,web,keywordstags-family help-patch a pd patch... /help-patch /object (...and many many more). parsing this meta data into the pd patches is probably easier. and editing the metadata outside, too. (using copy, paste, replace) m. But since we are working with Pd, it makes sense to have this data in Pd rather than some other format. Then you don't need to learn something new, like XML, to contribute. It would be quite straightforward to parse the [pd META] info and generate XML from that, if you want XML. .hc Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] puredatabase
Since we are talking about trying to get as many people involved in the documentation process as possible, it should be as straightforward as possible for Pd people to do it. If each chunk of meta data is a Pd selector series, where the selector defines the type of meta data, and the rest is the data, then we have an easy to understand and parse format. For example: [keywords sound oscillator( would be a useful chunk of meta data for [osc~]. This format could easily be parsed in Pd itself using no externals (unlike XML), and it is also easy to parse it with perl, python, etc. to generate XML, or whatever. .hc On Feb 9, 2007, at 1:16 AM, padawan12 wrote: Yes. At the risk of building a whole content management system (is puredatabase still built on Zope/Plone?) this seems the sensible format. At some point I would like to move some tutorials I've made onto the system. These are mainly HTML with diagrams and links to patches and sounds. A really thorough system would allow this and make it easy. But, from a development POV might I suggest that this is ambitious and one would be best to concentrate on just getting it to work right with .pd files to begin with, then add the bells and whistles to allow richer content. But being mindful of future content types cant hurt. One interesting and challenging enough problem that already exists is how to make sure that help/tutorial/exmaple patches that depend on certain abstractions and externals will always load. This is a dependency issue not dissimilar to the pakage management needed in something like the Debian apt repository system. It may be possible to tag each resource with its minimum version and libraries needed, or it might be better to hold multiple verions of the same resource and be able to browse by platform and current Pd version. The way I see it, Puredatabase is not just there to organise and structure documentation, it is there to make maintainance as easy as possible. We have an ongoing struggle to keep helpfiles up to date. One of the views, for maintainers, should reflect those needs. It should be easy enough to use so that anyone who spots an error or omission can quickly log in and make changes Wiki style. Hope I'm not just prattling on about issues you've already considered. On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:05:10 -0500 marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I thought we (the potential users of the database) in this phase could brainstorm and discuss ideas on how we would like it. I think this should be generated from the meta data in the help files. For PDDP, we plan on using the help files as the central location for meta data. I would rather have content (in xml style) and layout (webformat, pdf format,...) separated object objectnamecoolobject/objectname librarycore/library descriptionblablablab/description tagsaudio,streaming,web,keywordstags-family help-patch a pd patch... /help-patch /object (...and many many more). parsing this meta data into the pd patches is probably easier. and editing the metadata outside, too. (using copy, paste, replace) m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hotkey scrolling within patches?
I would very much like this too, for my scores to be able to scroll automatically. I also would have no idea how to program it. -Chuckk On 2/13/07, Rich E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, Does anyone know of a good linux window manager that would allow me to scroll left/right or up/down within a pd patch with the use of hotkeys? In Gnome and Blackbox, I can scroll up and down with the trackpad, but I really need to be able to do left and right. Another side question for the programmers out there; how hard do you think it would be to add automated scrolling (such as the time cursor in daw's and whatnot)? Maybe it is possible to write an external that controls scrolling within a patch? Regards, Rich ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- -Chuckk http://www.badmuthahubbard.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
