Re: [PD] crash in readanysf~ 0.33
hi Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: From my experience, the easiest path to supporting readanysf~ on all of the Pd-extended platforms would be to import the avdec code into the pure-data SVN and then set it up to build there. That is, unless IOhannes wants to deploy Gem using gmerlin_avdec sooner rather than later. That might change things somewhat. But then it might be easier to use the old GemLibs style of including an external lib. hmm, i cannot entirely follow here. my point has always been quite clear, that i do not especially like the idea putting every single line of source we can get our hands on and which some piece of software eventually included by Pd-extended depends on into the repository. i'd purge GemLibs alltogether rather sooner than later (afaik it is currently entirely dysfunctional; but you never know and that is the main reason why it is still there...) and instead revive the idea of providing GemLib-packages with pre-compiled binaries of the dependencies. finally, i was wondering what i have to do in order to use gmerlin_avdec in Gem (which has not been yet done; i suppose you did not break the entire code-base on your way to porting it to osx/w32 ;-)) fgamdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for vbap testing in Pd-extended or SVN
Hector Centeno wrote: Thanks hc, How do I achieve that? What is the order for loading things in PD? the order of loading is the order of occurence. first, all libraries in your pdsettings are loaded in the order they appear therein. then all libraries specified via the cmdline are loaded (in the order you specified them). finally, libraries are loaded within patches: 1st libs specified with [declare] (and probably [import]) are loaded; lastly the remaining libraries are loaded whenever an object of their name occurs first. Sorry if I'm asking for something too obvious, I haven't used PD that much. In my patch [vbap] is inside a sub-patch and [define_loudspeakers] in another sub-patch and both within the main patch. I tried putting the second inside the first but that didn't help. so: if you haven't loaded [vbap] yet, make sure that an object [vbap] is _created_ before [define_loudspeakers]. (just Ctrl-X-Ctrl-Z the sub-patch containing [define_loudspeakers] should be sufficient) having said all that: your problem seems to be that [define_loudspeakers] cannot read a file named ls_setup, which according to its name might define the actual rigging information for your loudspeaker setup. since the object itself loads fine, there seems to be no problem with needing [vbap] at all. your initial assumption that you have to create a file ls_setup seems to be quite right. gfmadrs IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] rewire for pd?
Hi, anyone interested in adding rewire support for pd? So far I read the protocoll is free, though proprietary. (but I don't know much about it) João Pais -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rewire for pd?
Hi Joao As i understand - there is nothing you can do with rewire, that cannot be done with jack, right ? Please correct me if i'am wrong Luigi Am 23.Mai.09 um 23.Mai.09 MESZ 13:25 schrieb João Pais: Hi, anyone interested in adding rewire support for pd? So far I read the protocoll is free, though proprietary. (but I don't know much about it) João Pais -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list - Dipl-Toning.(FH) Luigi Rensinghoff mobil: 0177-5412191 skype: gigischinke luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rewire for pd?
related read: http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Features_We_Can%27t_Implement Am 23.05.2009 um 13:25 schrieb João Pais: Hi, anyone interested in adding rewire support for pd? So far I read the protocoll is free, though proprietary. (but I don't know much about it) João Pais PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Markov chains on footils.org
Hi, there's a new little Pd tutorial online on footils.org, this time it deals with Markov chains: http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2009/may/23/markov-chains-pure-data/ Ciao -- Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me? _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rewire for pd?
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Luigi luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de wrote: there is nothing you can do with rewire, that cannot be done with jack, right ? Please correct me if i'am wrong Stream audio into ProTools. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for vbap testing in Pd-extended or SVN
IOhannes, Thanks again. But then why if I open the example VBAP patches there is no error message event though there is no ls_setup file in the directory? Cheers, Hector On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 4:59 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Hector Centeno wrote: Thanks hc, How do I achieve that? What is the order for loading things in PD? the order of loading is the order of occurence. first, all libraries in your pdsettings are loaded in the order they appear therein. then all libraries specified via the cmdline are loaded (in the order you specified them). finally, libraries are loaded within patches: 1st libs specified with [declare] (and probably [import]) are loaded; lastly the remaining libraries are loaded whenever an object of their name occurs first. Sorry if I'm asking for something too obvious, I haven't used PD that much. In my patch [vbap] is inside a sub-patch and [define_loudspeakers] in another sub-patch and both within the main patch. I tried putting the second inside the first but that didn't help. so: if you haven't loaded [vbap] yet, make sure that an object [vbap] is _created_ before [define_loudspeakers]. (just Ctrl-X-Ctrl-Z the sub-patch containing [define_loudspeakers] should be sufficient) having said all that: your problem seems to be that [define_loudspeakers] cannot read a file named ls_setup, which according to its name might define the actual rigging information for your loudspeaker setup. since the object itself loads fine, there seems to be no problem with needing [vbap] at all. your initial assumption that you have to create a file ls_setup seems to be quite right. gfmadrs IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for vbap testing in Pd-extended or SVN
IOhannes, I got it working by doing a ctrl-x and ctrl-z with the sub-patch that contains the loudspeaker definition object. Thanks, Hector On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:29 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Hector Centeno wrote: IOhannes, Thanks again. But then why if I open the example VBAP patches there is no error message event though there is no ls_setup file in the directory? the short answer: because you are doing something wrong (and everything on the system actually works as it is supposed to) the long answer: i really don't know. i never used vbap. however, i now had a short look: there is no mention of ls_setup anywhere in the sources. i don't get an error if i instantiate either the help-patches (apart from [matrix~] being no longer part of zexy but rather of iemmatrix and renamed to [mtx_*~] (or [mtx_mul~] if you have problems with libraries)) you must be generating the error somewhere else. try to isolate the object that complains and let us know what you have found. (hans might well be right with his assumption that you were failing to instantiate an object (ls_setup could be the setup-function of an object [ls]); the way you described the problem does not give any hints in this direction). fgamsrd IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] a little Sampler module with GUI being dragged in edit mode - howto
Hiya, I just finished a little sampler module with recording mic, volume envelope, pitch modulation and a GUI with pd-vanilla stuff + [breakpoints] (envgen modification from tof library)...It uses a moving [cnv] to implement an alpha graphic timeline of envelope (just work for 2 seconds default envelope). it uses also [iem_copy] from iem_tab to deal with a real time copies of samplers (i don't know if it is the best solution to that - suggestions welcome)... I know this kind of thing was made several times. This object was made mainly for a collaborative documentation project with Brazilian newbies around here, so I decided to make this from scratch... but I am posting here because I have a question for the veterans and want to start a thread about this discussion, to think about until we meet in PDcon09: my frustration: I can't drag this thing in edit mode whithout a long gap between atualization of the new position and audio huge dropouts. I know this question is not new in the history of this list, but suppose I really want to do it: make a GUI sampler object which can have several instances being droped in the canvas like any other object box... Does it happens in your machine too? Please report. It is all about graphic tables ot there's something more? Please don't tell me to not use them, this is not a solution! :) My system: r...@hdpodre:/home/glerm/artesanatodevolts# pd -version Pd version 0.41-4extended-20090427 compiled 14:09:17 Apr 27 2009 r...@hdpodre:/home/glerm/artesanatodevolts# uname -a Linux hdpodre 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux r...@hdpodre:/home/glerm/artesanatodevolts# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor: 0 vendor_id: GenuineIntel cpu family: 6 model: 9 model name: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1400MHz stepping: 5 cpu MHz: 1396.462 cache size: 512 KB fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug: no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu: yes fpu_exception: yes cpuid level: 2 wp: yes flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 tm pbe up bts bogomips: 2792.92 clflush size: 64 power management: abraços glerm mimosa-sampler.pd Description: Binary data mimosa-sampler-help.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] a little Sampler module with GUI being dragged in edit mode - howto
Sorry... I meant interactive mode. I changed the names because drag the objects in canvas is a sort of edition and I changed the words. But I think you got the issue... salut glerm ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] a little Sampler module with GUI being dragged in edit mode - howto
2009/5/23 glerm soares organi...@gmail.com But I think you got the issue... Actually I meant both. Cause I can't grab with mouse and I cant select and move with keyboard arrows.. Tables? thx glerm ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rewire for pd?
Am 23.Mai.09 um 23.Mai.09 MESZ 15:40 schrieb chris clepper: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Luigi luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de wrote: there is nothing you can do with rewire, that cannot be done with jack, right ? Please correct me if i'am wrong Stream audio into ProTools. I think it is possible. With JackInsert. I did it once not sure, maybe you need I used that (http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=15), but right Rewire would be cool.. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list - Dipl-Toning.(FH) Luigi Rensinghoff mobil: 0177-5412191 skype: gigischinke luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pure data on ubuntu 8.10
Dear friends i bought a new computer... pc computer, (i always use pure data on a mac with osx tiger,leopard) and i want install pure data extended, but the installer said me error libxxx dependecy, ¿how i can install?. Thanks a lot José -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com/ www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] crash in readanysf~ 0.33
On May 23, 2009, at 4:51 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hi Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: From my experience, the easiest path to supporting readanysf~ on all of the Pd-extended platforms would be to import the avdec code into the pure-data SVN and then set it up to build there. That is, unless IOhannes wants to deploy Gem using gmerlin_avdec sooner rather than later. That might change things somewhat. But then it might be easier to use the old GemLibs style of including an external lib. hmm, i cannot entirely follow here. my point has always been quite clear, that i do not especially like the idea putting every single line of source we can get our hands on and which some piece of software eventually included by Pd-extended depends on into the repository. i'd purge GemLibs alltogether rather sooner than later (afaik it is currently entirely dysfunctional; but you never know and that is the main reason why it is still there...) and instead revive the idea of providing GemLib-packages with pre-compiled binaries of the dependencies. I am suggesting managing the avdec source code in our SVN, not binaries. That's what I thought GemLibs was for. I agree managing binaries in SVN is not a very good idea as a general practice. That said, I feel I must reiterate: SVN is a very useful tool for managing source code, and that's what we are talking about. Package management is also, but there isn't package management for Windows and avdec isn't in Debian, Ubuntu or Fedora. The SVN developers think that importing other source code into your own SVN is useful enough to devote a whole chapter to it, as well as specialized tools: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch07s05.html CVS also has similar documentation: http://www.cs.utah.edu/dept/old/texinfo/cvs/cvs_13.html For the build farm, I am currently managing 3 Debian boxes, 2 Ubuntu boxes, a Fedora box, 3 Mac OS X boxes, and a Windows box. I maintain Pd packages for Debian/Ubuntu, Mac OS X and Windows. I am a contributor to the Fink distribution. I have also built custom WRT firmwares using the EWRT, which has lots of imported source code. Bottom line, I have seen, worked with, and used many different techniques for managing code. IMHO based on this experience, I think that it will be the least work to import avdec into our SVN and use it from there until it is in the package management of the supported platforms. Can we put this issue of importing source code to rest? This is standard, very common, and indeed a very labor saving practice. finally, i was wondering what i have to do in order to use gmerlin_avdec in Gem (which has not been yet done; i suppose you did not break the entire code-base on your way to porting it to osx/w32 ;-)) Its installed on the Mac OS X build farm machines already. We are working on getting into the Windows build machine. .hc Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] a little Sampler module with GUI being dragged in edit mode - howto
BTW, I found another bad issue: When I delete this abstraction, pd crashes. Is this [breakpoint] bug? ;;; glerm ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rewire for pd?
Believe me or not, but JACK's routing capabilities are superior to ReWire. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Markov chains on footils.org
Nice Frank, a textfile is a good way to store, edit and import data. Maybe the pic at the top there could be a link to Mr Markov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Markov On Sat, 23 May 2009 14:17:19 +0200 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: Hi, there's a new little Pd tutorial online on footils.org, this time it deals with Markov chains: http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2009/may/23/markov-chains-pure-data/ Ciao -- Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me? _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] default speaker setup for vbap
I just had an idea: would there be any harm in having [vbap] start up with a default set of loudspeakers? It would make life easier for the newb. Perhaps it would default to a 5.1 setup. .hc You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] PD sound quality question
Hello, I'm in the process of learning more about PD so I've been checking some of the patches that are part of Johannes Kreidler's excellent tutorial Programming Electronic Music in Pd ( http://www.pd-tutorial.com/ ). Today I was playing a bit with the sampler-big.pd which is a sound sampler with adjustable speed and start/end points. I noticed that as I made playback speed slower I started to hear quite noticeable aliasing. The patch uses [tabread4~] for reading the sound array. So my questions are: is this aliasing a particular problem of my system or is this an expected result? Is there anyway of avoiding it? I could post the patch here if needed. Cheers, Hector ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
