Re: [PD] software license for pd general patch?

2010-06-30 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote: Interesting. Is there plans for others gui toolkits? no. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___

Re: [PD] interface/pd-based standalone applications question

2010-06-30 Thread David Schaffer
I'm neither nuts, nor a consumer. I just happen to be impressed by a patch I came across a while ago, it was a TR 909 emulation and looked very professionnal. It's basically what I'm trying to do: building pd patches (like improved media players, virtual FX racks, video dispatchers...) that

Re: [PD] Problem with Textfile and line with float

2010-06-30 Thread matohawk
Hi Jonathan, Yes I know textfile works but I can't put any kind of object behind this Texfile. I'll try all list object and this the same problem. Look this : http://www.th-th.fr/DOCS/Patch/bug-texfile.pd I need to read this line with float at the begining but I can't. So I think we will

Re: [PD] Problem with Textfile and line with float

2010-06-30 Thread ailo
One way to do it is to change the order: toto float 0 1 2 This way float is treated as a symbol. On 06/30/2010 09:58 AM, matohawk wrote: Hi Jonathan, Yes I know textfile works but I can't put any kind of object behind this Texfile. I'll try all list object and this the same problem. Look

Re: [PD] What's up with the mailing list archives and/or Google????

2010-06-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-06-30 00:15, Roman Haefeli wrote: I noticed the problem as well. I guess what happens is that the message numbering has changed for some reason. Probably the last time google was crawling http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-06/070918.html it actually still contained the

Re: [PD] Blur FX on a specific area on video.

2010-06-30 Thread Husk 00
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Olivier Baudu lamouraupeu...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, We want to process a blur effect on a specific area on video. To be clearer, we want to blur faces... To find faces, we use [pix_opencv_haarcascade ]... How can we do to blur this area, and only this one ?

Re: [PD] cannot add pd-extended repository in ubuntu 10.04

2010-06-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-06-29 18:03, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: # Ubuntu/lucid 10.04 LTS deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases lucid main [...] Failed to fetch http://apt.puredata.info/releases/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found despite of what it says on the website, there are no

Re: [PD] Problem with Textfile and line with float

2010-06-30 Thread matohawk
Hi, Yes I know but the order it's important because this is a backup of a data structures Score. So I can't change the order. Thomas ailo a écrit : One way to do it is to change the order: toto float 0 1 2 This way float is treated as a symbol. On 06/30/2010 09:58 AM, matohawk wrote:

Re: [PD] ttf-stream-vera dependency

2010-06-30 Thread Lorenzo
Hi Matteo, I'm not sure I managed to follow all the passages you made anyway... I managed to install Pd-extended (0.42.5-extended-20100601) on lucid (32 bit) doing the followng: - Downloaded the autobuild here:

Re: [PD] having both vanilla and extended installed in linux (ubuntu)

2010-06-30 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 06/30/2010 01:01 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Ubuntu/Lucid, you should be able to install both the 'puredata' package and the 0.42.5-rc3 package. But how do I then tell it which one to run? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: [PD] cannot add pd-extended repository in ubuntu 10.04

2010-06-30 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 06/30/2010 10:27 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: despite of what it says on the website, there are no lucid packages available yet at apt.puredata.info Oh I see, thank you. So I have added a note in that wiki page saying it is not available yet. I hope that's ok. I now have Pd Extended

[PD] low-level programming languageß

2010-06-30 Thread steffen scholl
hello, is pd a low level programming language? and what is with text-based environments like supercollider? best, steff _ http://redirect.gimas.net/?n=M1006xHMTL6 Künftig E-Mails ohne

Re: [PD] ttf-stream-vera dependency

2010-06-30 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 21:58 +0100, Pedro Lopes wrote: P.S. this sounds similar to the old dll hell of Windows, which they solved with the glorious [sarchasm intended] winsxs folder which grows and grows to as much as 15GB of mostly duplicate dll's. I know what you mean, I remember my first

Re: [PD] Problem with Textfile and line with float

2010-06-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-06-30 10:27, matohawk wrote: Hi, Yes I know but the order it's important because this is a backup of a data structures Score. So I can't change the order. in this case i would use something like: $ sed -e 's|float|Float|g' scorefile.txt newscorefile.txt and use the newscorefile.txt

Re: [PD] having both vanilla and extended installed in linux (ubuntu)

2010-06-30 Thread Husk 00
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/30/2010 01:01 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Ubuntu/Lucid, you should be able to install both the 'puredata' package and the 0.42.5-rc3 package. But how do I then tell it which one to run?

Re: [PD] ttf-stream-vera dependency

2010-06-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-06-30 10:38, Roman Haefeli wrote: @ ttf-stream-vera dependency problem: IIRC, the vera font was abandoned in ubuntu once and got replaced by dejavu, but don't ask me about the details. to be honest, i find it a bit over-the-top to make a font a hard dependency for a package like

Re: [PD] having both vanilla and extended installed in linux (ubuntu)

2010-06-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-06-30 10:35, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: On 06/30/2010 01:01 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Ubuntu/Lucid, you should be able to install both the 'puredata' package and the 0.42.5-rc3 package. But how do I then tell it which one to run? run pd to run pd. run pdextended to run

Re: [PD] having both vanilla and extended installed in linux (ubuntu)

2010-06-30 Thread batinste
Hi You can launch Pd vanilla with pd and pd-extended with pdextended. Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : On 06/30/2010 01:01 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Ubuntu/Lucid, you should be able to install both the 'puredata' package and the 0.42.5-rc3 package. But how do I then tell it which

Re: [PD] low-level programming languageß

2010-06-30 Thread quietdidit
Hmm, as far as I know, when we talk about low level programming language,usually it's about assembly language language that kinda talks directly to the computer's hardware. I think pd and supercollider is not a low level programming langu,because they represent a higher level of the

Re: [PD] Blur FX on a specific area on video.

2010-06-30 Thread Olivier Baudu
Yes... You're right. It's a solution and quite simple... So simple I dont't understand why I didn't find it earlier... Thanks a lot... 01ivier 2010/6/30 Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Olivier Baudu lamouraupeu...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, We want to process a blur

Re: [PD] What's up with the mailing list archives and/or Google????

2010-06-30 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 10:17 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-06-30 00:15, Roman Haefeli wrote: I noticed the problem as well. I guess what happens is that the message numbering has changed for some reason. Probably the last time google was crawling

Re: [PD] having both vanilla and extended installed in linux (ubuntu)

2010-06-30 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 06/30/2010 10:42 AM, Husk 00 wrote: On Ubuntu/Lucid, you should be able to install both the 'puredata' package and the 0.42.5-rc3 package. Hi Matteo, now the launcher script for pd-extended is pdextended in /usr/bin. Pd-vanila still uses pd command to be launched if i'm not

[PD] send midi to another program in windows? (not with [midifile])

2010-06-30 Thread João Pais
Hi, my attempts to work with [midifile] didn't work, as something in the files is saved wrong, and all my midi-related programs (sibelius, reason, logic,...) display a much slower file than the one I saved. Also, midifile only takes integers as midipitches, which is rather limiting. I wanted to

Re: [PD] having both vanilla and extended installed in linux (ubuntu)

2010-06-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-06-30 11:17, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: On 06/30/2010 10:42 AM, Husk 00 wrote: On Ubuntu/Lucid, you should be able to install both the 'puredata' package and the 0.42.5-rc3 package. Hi Matteo, now the launcher script for pd-extended is pdextended in /usr/bin.

Re: [PD] software license for pd general patch?

2010-06-30 Thread András Murányi
2010/6/30 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote: Interesting. Is there plans for others gui toolkits? no. ...see the archives for reasoning. The question came up earlier this year. Andras ___

[PD] problem with arduino digital ins - Pduino-0.5beta8 / Firmata 2.1

2010-06-30 Thread Ingo Scherzinger
Hi, I'm having a problem with the arduino digital ins. According to the arduino website there are pull up resistors inside the ATmega that get activated automatically when the digital ins are turned on. This is not the case here with the Pduino-0.5beta8. When I connect ground to the pin it

Re: [PD] send midi to another program in windows? (not with [midifile])

2010-06-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-06-30 12:19, João Pais wrote: Hi, my attempts to work with [midifile] didn't work, as something in the files is saved wrong, and all my midi-related programs (sibelius, reason, logic,...) display a much slower file than the one I saved. Also, midifile only takes integers as

Re: [PD] interface/pd-based standalone applications question

2010-06-30 Thread András Murányi
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:46 AM, David Schaffer schafferda...@hotmail.comwrote: I'm neither nuts, nor a consumer. I just happen to be impressed by a patch I came across a while ago, it was a TR 909 emulation and looked very professionnal. It's basically what I'm trying to do: building pd

Re: [PD] interface/pd-based standalone applications question

2010-06-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-06-30 12:50, András Murányi wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:46 AM, David Schaffer schafferda...@hotmail.comwrote: I'm neither nuts, nor a consumer. I just happen to be impressed by a patch I came across a while ago, it was a TR 909 emulation and looked very professionnal. It's

Re: [PD] having both vanilla and extended installed in linux (ubuntu)

2010-06-30 Thread Husk 00
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/30/2010 10:42 AM, Husk 00 wrote: On Ubuntu/Lucid, you should be able to install both the 'puredata' package and the 0.42.5-rc3 package. Hi Matteo, now the launcher script for

Re: [PD] having both vanilla and extended installed in linux (ubuntu)

2010-06-30 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Hi Matteo, here on Jaunty with 0.42.5 autobuild the command pdextended works fine. Have you tried to install a latest autobuild as mentioned before? I don't think you need to compile all what you are compiling. http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ M On 06/30/2010 10:42 AM,

[PD] [OT] Jaunty people

2010-06-30 Thread András Murányi
Hello everybody on Ubuntu Jaunty, i see you are still many... and having more and more problems (lack of fresh Jaunty Pd build etc.) Well i'd just like to encourage you to upgrade to Lucid. I've done it recently on 64-bit (which is, bug-wise, usually lagging behind the 32-bit version), and it's

Re: [PD] send midi to another program in windows? (not with [midifile])

2010-06-30 Thread András Murányi
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:45 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote: On 2010-06-30 12:19, João Pais wrote: Hi, my attempts to work with [midifile] didn't work, as something in the files is saved wrong, and all my midi-related programs (sibelius, reason, logic,...) display a

Re: [PD] send midi to another program in windows? (not with [midifile])

2010-06-30 Thread João Pais
my attempts to work with [midifile] didn't work, as something in the files is saved wrong, and all my midi-related programs (sibelius, reason, logic,...) display a much slower file than the one I saved. Also, midifile only takes integers as midipitches, which is rather limiting. that's

Re: [PD] interface/pd-based standalone applications question

2010-06-30 Thread András Murányi
2010/6/30 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at On 2010-06-30 12:50, András Murányi wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:46 AM, David Schaffer schafferda...@hotmail.comwrote: I'm neither nuts, nor a consumer. I just happen to be impressed by a patch I came across a while ago, it was a

[PD] [PD-announce] Meeting Code and Art - 10 July - Marseille - France

2010-06-30 Thread matohawk
Hi, We organise a small meeting in Marseille Code and Art called Apéro Codelab #8, 10 of July. (with a Blank Pages, talk, a Pure Data workshop, installations and performance) The entry is free. Here you can find more informations (in french) : http://codelab.fr/+/apero-codelab-08 Bonjour,

Re: [PD] send midi to another program in windows? (not with [midifile])

2010-06-30 Thread Max
Am 30.06.2010 um 12:45 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: well, jack can route MIDI as well...(and ALSA does MIDI-routing as well) on w32, you could try midiyoke. ...and on OS X use the build-in IAC (inter application communication?) bus which you have to enable in the Audio-MIDI-Setup.app (the

Re: [PD] problem with arduino digital ins - Pduino-0.5beta8 - solved!

2010-06-30 Thread Ingo Scherzinger
Problem solved! I added this line to the firmata 2.1: digitalWrite(pin, HIGH); // turn on pullup resistors in this context: case INPUT: pinStatus[pin] = mode; pinMode(pin, INPUT); - digitalWrite(pin, HIGH); // turn on pullup resistors portStatus[port] =

Re: [PD] interface/pd-based standalone applications question

2010-06-30 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Chris McCormick is working on it, alone as far as I know. (Don't want to talk for Chris) but it seems to me he's interested in porting oniy pd-vanilla tilde objects. And he would need help too. Anyway he published some useful guidelines and I think it shouldn't be difficult for someone knowing

Re: [PD] send midi to another program in windows? (not with [midifile])

2010-06-30 Thread David Kirkpatrick
Hi Joao, You can use LoopBe1 or MIDIYoke. They're both free. Regards, David Kirkpatrick Sound and Multimedia Artist www.davidk.com.au --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: jmmmp...@googlemail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:19:10 +0200 Subject: [PD] send midi to another

Re: [PD] problem with arduino digital ins - Pduino-0.5beta8 / Firmata 2.1

2010-06-30 Thread Roman Haefeli
You got me interested. I didn't know about an internal pull-up resistore, but I asked in the #arduino channel and it seems there indeed is such a thing. rdz hi all. is there an internal pull-up resistor for digitalIns? scgtrp (digitalRead btw) yes, pinMode(n, INPUT); digitalWrite(n, 1); I

[PD] private Lessons in PD in Hamburg or Berlin

2010-06-30 Thread hghoyer
halo, I am looking for someone who can offer me in the Hamburg area Berlin or private lessons in Pure Data ... I am interested in the topics: - Interesting sound design - Game Audio - Sampling - Granular - Synthesis with noise generators I would love ... My hit is +49 179 198 1830 Bye, hans

[PD] Store a List?

2010-06-30 Thread Pierre Massat
Hi all! I m wondering if there would be a simple way of storing a list, just like [f ] stores a float. My list is the output of a rather long [pack] object. Can use a two-stage pack? Something like that : [pack 0 0 0 0 0 0 0] | \ \ \ \ \ [pack 0 0] The idea would be

Re: [PD] Store a List?

2010-06-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-06-30 13:40, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi all! I m wondering if there would be a simple way of storing a list, just like [f ] stores a float. My list is the output of a rather long [pack] object. Can use a two-stage pack? Something like that : how about [list append]? fgnasdr IOhannes

Re: [PD] send midi to another program in windows? (not with [midifile])

2010-06-30 Thread João Pais
thanks, I think I have it covered now. 2010/6/30 David Kirkpatrick djk_1...@hotmail.com Hi Joao, You can use LoopBe1 or MIDIYoke. They're both free. Regards, David Kirkpatrick Sound and Multimedia Artist www.davidk.com.au --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From:

Re: [PD] private Lessons in PD in Hamburg or Berlin

2010-06-30 Thread João Pais
you mean offer as in give away? if you want something advanced, these people have many other things to do as well. instead, you should come to http://puredata.info/community/organization/pd-berlin/pd-berlin-users-group/, or make a learning/patching group with specific goals. Joao 2010/6/30

Re: [PD] send midi to another program in windows? (not with [midifile])

2010-06-30 Thread André Bandeira
Midi yoke will certainly make it, but you will probably have problems with latency. ___ André Damião Bandeira (11)9819-1999

Re: [PD] Store a List?

2010-06-30 Thread Olivier Baudu
Or, simpler... [l ] 01ivier 2010/6/30 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at On 2010-06-30 13:40, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi all! I m wondering if there would be a simple way of storing a list, just like [f ] stores a float. My list is the output of a rather long [pack] object. Can use a

Re: [PD] problem with arduino digital ins - Pduino-0.5beta8 / Firmata 2.1

2010-06-30 Thread Ingo Scherzinger
Hi Roman, this solution is working also. So in this case it's not really necessary to change the firmata itself. Anyway, I would prefer to have this behaviour as the default behaviour, i.e. included in firmata. At least all of this this should be documented. Before I found out I was soldering all

Re: [PD] [OT] linux preempt kernel vs rt kernel

2010-06-30 Thread András Murányi
Buh, it seems then i'll need to get a kernel from a PPA or compile it myself. A bit afraid of it, honestly. Thanks for the explanation! Andras On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.comwrote: well, AFAIK, the RT Kernel is a generic kernel that is modified by a

Re: [PD] Store a List?

2010-06-30 Thread Jack
[list], [list prepend], [lister] from zexy. Or with the message [set(. ++ Jack Le mercredi 30 juin 2010 à 13:43 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : On 2010-06-30 13:40, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi all! I m wondering if there would be a simple way of storing a list, just like [f ] stores

Re: [PD] Store a List?

2010-06-30 Thread Husk 00
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Olivier Baudu lamouraupeu...@gmail.comwrote: Or, simpler... [l ] Or maybe list-fifo from list-abs cheers luca/husk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] send midi to another program in windows? (not with [midifile])

2010-06-30 Thread Ingo Scherzinger
There is no noticeable latency with midi yoke on any of my systems here. Ingo Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:07:48 + From: Andr? Bandeira teoria.musi...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] send midi to another program in windows? (not with [midifile]) To: djk_1...@hotmail.com,

Re: [PD] Store a List?

2010-06-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-06-30 14:09, Olivier Baudu wrote: Or, simpler... [l ] being the upstream author of [lister] (and thus [l]), i would recommend to use [list append] whenever it's possible. it basically provides the same functionality as [l] and is built-in. similar arguments go for the other objects

Re: [PD] problem with arduino digital ins - Pduino-0.5beta8 / Firmata 2.1

2010-06-30 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 14:12 +0200, Ingo Scherzinger wrote: Hi Roman, this solution is working also. So in this case it's not really necessary to change the firmata itself. Anyway, I would prefer to have this behaviour as the default behaviour, i.e. included in firmata. At least all of this

Re: [PD] problem with arduino digital ins - Pduino-0.5beta8 / Firmata 2.1

2010-06-30 Thread Martin Peach
Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 14:12 +0200, Ingo Scherzinger wrote: Hi Roman, this solution is working also. So in this case it's not really necessary to change the firmata itself. Anyway, I would prefer to have this behaviour as the default behaviour, i.e. included in firmata. At

Re: [PD] send midi to another program in windows? (not with [midifile])

2010-06-30 Thread Martin Peach
João Pais wrote: Hi, my attempts to work with [midifile] didn't work, as something in the files is saved wrong, Any idea what is saved wrong? Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] What's up with the mailing list archives and/or Google????

2010-06-30 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: However, today I tried a few searches, and 100% of the times, when I click on a search result returned by Google, it takes me to a totally unrelated message. But isn't it also that the message you want is always in the same folder (representing

Re: [PD] interface/pd-based standalone applications question

2010-06-30 Thread Bernardo Barros
You can use SwingOSC: http://sourceforge.net/projects/swingosc/ You can build java GUI and control with osc messages. It is weel integrated from inside the SuperCollider language, but it is reported to work weel with PD also. 2010/6/30 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com: The 909 emulation was

Re: [PD] problem with arduino digital ins - Pduino-0.5beta8 / Firmata 2.1

2010-06-30 Thread Ingo Scherzinger
I suppose you're right about the different types of controllers being attached to the arduino. It's definitely better to keep the pullup resistors off as default! I think it just needs an extra line on the help patch so people would know about this feature and how to use it. Ingo Von: Martin

Re: [PD] low-level programming languageß

2010-06-30 Thread Bernardo Barros
You´re right. SuperCollider is a very high-level and object-oriented programming language. Also very expressive and has all tha characteristics of a object-oriented language (inheritance, polymorphism, classes etc). Low-level programming language, also OOP, would be C++. PD is no object-oriented

Re: [PD] Blur FX on a specific area on video.

2010-06-30 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, Olivier Baudu wrote: We want to process a blur effect on a specific area on video. To be clearer, we want to blur faces... To find faces, we use [pix_opencv_haarcascade ]... 1. blur the whole picture 2. use the output of your detector to make a mask 3. use the mask to

Re: [PD] interface/pd-based standalone applications question

2010-06-30 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, Mike Moser-Booth wrote: I've always thought that what Max considers standalones is kind of shady. They're just the patch and Max Runtime bundled together. The only difference is that the patch(es) used are put together in a single file (which Max calls a collective, but

Re: [PD] compiling pdextended rc3 jaunty

2010-06-30 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Hi list, in my attempts to compile on jaunty pd 0.42.5 from the main branch, I got this error with iem16 lib, and I can't understand if it's a missing dependency or something else. It's not the first error I get, I'm managing the missing -dev libs quite good so far, but dunno what to do with this

[PD] error: [import]: can't load library in 'vbap_ext'

2010-06-30 Thread Christoph Kuhr
Hi, im running ubuntu 10.04 with Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20100508 i tried to get the spatial workshop of Georg Holzmann working. i get the following console output: error: [import]: can't load library in 'vbap_ext' ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu.

Re: [PD] having both vanilla and extended installed in linux (ubuntu)

2010-06-30 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 06/30/2010 01:03 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Hi Matteo, here on Jaunty with 0.42.5 autobuild the command pdextended works fine. Have you tried to install a latest autobuild as mentioned before? No, I installed the package available on the download page (0.41.something), that's why it ran

Re: [PD] having both vanilla and extended installed in linux (ubuntu)

2010-06-30 Thread András Murányi
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/30/2010 01:03 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Hi Matteo, here on Jaunty with 0.42.5 autobuild the command pdextended works fine. Have you tried to install a latest autobuild as mentioned before? No,

Re: [PD] software license for pd general patch?

2010-06-30 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, João Pais wrote: I'm just being realistic, it's not a value judgement. If I had made a nice vocoder with online streaming, that would be much more interesting for this community. You don't know this community, and neither do I. It just doesn't work like this. There

Re: [PD] Problem with Textfile and line with float

2010-06-30 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
None of the [list] objects will work either, for the reasons I wrote below.  For an example of what I'm saying, open text-float.txt, add the word list at the beginning and save it.  Then you will see that your patch works. If anyone knows of an external that works like [textfile] but outputs

[PD] Having two or more versions of Pd (both extended or both vanilla) in Ubuntu

2010-06-30 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi, So it is relatively easy in Linux to have both Pd Extended and Vanilla (actually easier than in Windows). Now, how can I have for example two or more versions of Vanilla? I'd like to give a try to the rewrite-gui version but also have the old stable 0.42.5 for everyday use... In

[PD] pix_invert crash

2010-06-30 Thread patko
Hello, how can we invert greyscale images without crashing with win32 version? or is there an object that convert greyscale to RGB? -- Patrice Colet ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] having both vanilla and extended installed in linux (ubuntu)

2010-06-30 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 06/30/2010 06:24 PM, András Murányi wrote: Btw, regarding the devel (0.43) version, is it an experimental version of Extended or of Vanilla? Currently it is Vanilla (correct me if i'm wrong). Andras Yeah it seems it's vanilla. _Note_ however that the package description says Pd

Re: [PD] software license for pd general patch?

2010-06-30 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
There are enough people doing the same, that all those individual 1% and 2% add up to a very large proportion of what's being produced in the pd community. I agree with this sentiment. People seem most attracted to Pd for its flexibility. If everyone wanted a nifty vocoder they would've

Re: [PD] having both vanilla and extended installed in linux (ubuntu)

2010-06-30 Thread András Murányi
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/30/2010 06:24 PM, András Murányi wrote: Btw, regarding the devel (0.43) version, is it an experimental version of Extended or of Vanilla? Currently it is Vanilla (correct me if i'm wrong).

[PD] Why not clear printout?

2010-06-30 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi, I've just noticed Pd-Extended 0.42.5 doesn't have the useful clear printout button that Vanilla (0.42.5) has. I know it is a relatively recent addition in Vanilla, but I'm comparing the same version number. Has it been intentionally removed in Extended?

Re: [PD] pix_invert crash

2010-06-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-06-30 19:39, patko wrote: Hello, how can we invert greyscale images without crashing with win32 version? by filing a bug-report with an exact description of your problem; with info about your exact version of Gem, about the image you are using, about the patch; ideally you could

Re: [PD] Why not clear printout?

2010-06-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-06-30 20:21, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hi, I've just noticed Pd-Extended 0.42.5 doesn't have the useful clear printout button that Vanilla (0.42.5) has. I know it is a relatively recent addition in Vanilla, but I'm comparing the same version number. Has it been intentionally removed

Re: [PD] Problem with Textfile and line with float

2010-06-30 Thread András Murányi
You can also see what Chris McCormick's s-abstractions can do for you. I use s-map to handle big 'tables' (many rows of long lists they are). It doesn't need 'list' at the beginning of the lines :) Andras On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: None of the

Re: [PD] pix_invert crash

2010-06-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-06-30 20:23, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-06-30 19:39, patko wrote: Hello, how can we invert greyscale images without crashing with win32 version? by filing a bug-report with an exact description of your problem; with info about your exact version of Gem, about the image

Re: [PD] software license for pd general patch?

2010-06-30 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, João Pais wrote: Not that I'm expecting to become rich with the paypal button BTW I tried to get paid for a contract by PayPal and this was the single most expensive fees I ever got in a money transfer, by very far. Next time, I'm gonna just be very patient and get a

Re: [PD] Why not clear printout?

2010-06-30 Thread András Murányi
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:24 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote: On 2010-06-30 20:21, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hi, I've just noticed Pd-Extended 0.42.5 doesn't have the useful clear printout button that Vanilla (0.42.5) has. I know it is a relatively recent addition in

Re: [PD] Why not clear printout?

2010-06-30 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 06/30/2010 08:24 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-06-30 20:21, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hi, I've just noticed Pd-Extended 0.42.5 doesn't have the useful clear printout button that Vanilla (0.42.5) has. I know it is a relatively recent addition in Vanilla, but I'm comparing the same

[PD] Only one instance of Pd can produce sound in Ubuntu

2010-06-30 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi, If I open multiple instances of Pd in Ubuntu (doesn't matter whether vanilla or extended or mixed), only the first one has sound. No matter whether I set alsa or oss in Media. (btw I'm sure I had seen also portaudio listed but now it's gone) Usually there's no problem in having multiple

Re: [PD] software license for pd general patch?

2010-06-30 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote: 2010/6/29 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org: In this view, Miller has the biggest balls of dem all. :) Is there a legal reason for PD not be GPL? Maybe it has some code from another project? If any code that Pd took from other projects had any

Re: [PD] send midi to another program in windows? (not with [midifile])

2010-06-30 Thread Pedro Lopes
There's jack for windows[1]... I'd like to see that working (maybe Ill give a go here) [1] http://www.grame.fr/~letz/jack-1.9.5.tgz On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.cawrote: João Pais wrote: Hi, my attempts to work with [midifile] didn't work, as

Re: [PD] [OT] linux preempt kernel vs rt kernel

2010-06-30 Thread András Murányi
The point is that the newest kernel versions are not available in rt flavour (the latest is 2.6.31-11 and my experiences were not good with it). This is first time i heard about the lowlatency flavour, but it's not in my Ubuntu repos. So i'm afraid, if i want a new rt kernel (for 64-bit...), i'll

Re: [PD] [OT] linux preempt kernel vs rt kernel

2010-06-30 Thread Pedro Lopes
UbuntuStudio is an official rt kernel with 64 bits. You do not need to compile your own. rt kernels are not at the same stage as the generic, I never noticed any issue or problem with rts. But its your call. I have two rt's, my first was Ubuntu Studio 64 bits, and later I pacthed my Ubuntu Karmic

Re: [PD] interface/pd-based standalone applications question

2010-06-30 Thread Michal Seta
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Mike Moser-Booth mmoserbo...@gmail.com wrote: I've always thought that what Max considers standalones is kind of shady. They're just the patch and Max Runtime bundled together. There are 2 ways of distributing patches to those who do not own Max (or in order to

Re: [PD] Blur FX on a specific area on video and camera focus blur

2010-06-30 Thread Samuel Burt
On a related note, I've been hoping to find a way to add movable camera focus blur to 3-d primitives. Is there an easy way to do this with Gem? See the example on this page: http://www.opengl.org/resources/code/samples/glut_examples/advanced/advanced.html Sam Message: 2 Date: Wed, 30 Jun

Re: [PD] interface/pd-based standalone applications question

2010-06-30 Thread Michal Seta
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: Processing (i don't like to type it with 55 =P but I know its the original...) Actually, a few years ago the project has deliberately switched to the non-l33t spelling of the name of the project so Proce55ing and

Re: [PD] interface/pd-based standalone applications question

2010-06-30 Thread Pedro Lopes
It requires a JavaVM of course (its..java) Wether your distro offers that or not, you can install it. Processing is JavaVM-dependent and not OS-dependent since java is available for almost everything. :) That was my point. I think I have used processing with other VMs (icedtea, openJDK, ...)

Re: [PD] pix_invert crash

2010-06-30 Thread patko
- IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at a écrit : On 2010-06-30 20:23, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-06-30 19:39, patko wrote: Hello, how can we invert greyscale images without crashing with win32 oh, and before reporting, you might also want to make sure that you have the

Re: [PD] send midi to another program in windows? (not with [midifile])

2010-06-30 Thread patko
Jack works good here on vista, but there is no MIDI, or I didn't find it. Isn't jack midi interface for ALSA only? - Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt a écrit : There's jack for windows[1]... I'd like to see that working (maybe Ill give a go here) [1]

Re: [PD] Only one instance of Pd can produce sound in Ubuntu

2010-06-30 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 06/30/2010 08:41 PM, Pedro Lopes wrote: I strongly advise using Jack as the audio engine in Ubuntu. Ohhh! Thanks. I thought Jack was (only) a sort of virtual audio cable for connecting the output of an app to the input of another. I guess it is _also_ that. Anyway, just out of

Re: [PD] interface/pd-based standalone applications question

2010-06-30 Thread Bernardo Barros
I think this whole thing just does not sound like free (as in freedom) software anyway. I don´t understand why max patchers always want to hide their code. I think PD programmers should try to make their code as redable as possible. 2010/6/30 Michal Seta m...@artengine.ca: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010

Re: [PD] [OT] linux preempt kernel vs rt kernel

2010-06-30 Thread Kim Cascone
also, if you want a quick and easy way to switch kernels for testing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] [OT] linux preempt kernel vs rt kernel

2010-06-30 Thread Pedro Lopes
Easier than messing with grub2 new commands... On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Kim Cascone k...@anechoicmedia.com wrote: also, if you want a quick and easy way to switch kernels for testing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager ___

Re: [PD] software license for pd general patch?

2010-06-30 Thread João Pais
I'm not excluding anyone, or criticising the community (not a good term, but I brought it up). If I would be critisicing anyone, it would be me, for not having the same interests as the majority. maybe with that I wanted to say is that I wrote this patch to cater for another community

Re: [PD] software license for pd general patch?

2010-06-30 Thread João Pais
all. I don't know how it differs for smaller payments. What is your experience ? sorry, no experience at all. only made payments with it, never was paid with it. (I'm sure it won't even make up for the time already spent working on this), Don't forget that you also made this for

Re: [PD] software license for pd general patch?

2010-06-30 Thread João Pais
Also, you can never know what use someone else may find for your patch. I have taken elements from synth patches and used them as controllers for visual patches. I don't care about classical composing, and haven't heard of any of the composers you listed, but I am certainly interested in

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