Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's

2010-11-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 06:22 +0100, august wrote:

 
 Roman, it would also be great if you could add gmerlin to your ppa
 list.   Is that difficult?  I'd think it wouldn't be too much work if
 you already have the others (gavl, etc).

Simply including the sources that are already included in the official
Ubuntu repositories is easy. But I wouldn't see any point in doing that.
Do you need a more up-to-date version of the gmerlin package? And what
for do you need it, just out of curiosity?

Roman


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Re: [PD] Musical notation object on Pd

2010-11-05 Thread João Pais
João: what you are saing sounds good, but in that discussion I could  
hardly

see how that object works.


No, you have to follow the links, install it and try it out. That's how I  
got to see it. Then you'll see in some examples (if they all work) how  
complex it can be.


For now is used for display, but they would eventually be putting in some  
feedback/output capabilities, I think.


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[PD] reacTIVision client in PD on Ubuntu 64 bit

2010-11-05 Thread Menno van der Woude
Hello,

not sure if this should go to this list or to the dev list...

Running Ubuntu studio 10.04 64 bit, I have a problem with the reacTIVision
client in Pure Data (extended, 0.42.5-2). Trying to put the client on the
canvas, gives the message:

/home/menno/pd/TuioClient.pd_linux: /home/menno/pd/TuioClient.pd_linux:
wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32

Seems like it was built solely for 32 bit systems? I really do not know how
to resolve this, or how to build a working pd-client from the source.

Attached is my attempt to build an alternative client, using mrpeach
[udpreceive] and [unpackOSC]. This works, however the problem is with
'addObject' and 'removeObject' messages that the regular client gives. In
what I built now, this only works if there is only 1 fudicial in sight.
Updates keep on going so work fine with multiple fudicials in sight of the
camera. In example 2, I have tried resolving this by creating an [inlet] to
determine which fudicial number this client is for. However, using multiple
clients is of no use, because the [updreceive] object can only be used once,
multiple copied will not output data.

Any ideas either on how to resolve the initial issue, or how to improve this
alternative idea for a reacTIVision client?

Ciao, Menno.
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#X declare -lib mrpeach;
#X obj -94 -307 import mrpeach;
#X obj 17 -282 unpackOSC;
#X obj 17 -307 udpreceive ;
#X obj 17 -208 list split 1;
#X obj 84 -146 unpack s;
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-1 -1;
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-1;
#X obj -81 237 line;
#X floatatom -71 262 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X floatatom 21 182 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X obj -42 208 pack;
#X msg -42 182 10;
#X obj -81 285 threshold 10 10 9 10;
#X obj -80 152 t b b;
#X obj -10 182 int;
#X msg -81 208 1;
#X obj -81 334 zl reg;
#X obj 301 218 zl reg;
#X obj 301 262 print enter;
#X obj 85 -3 print update;
#X obj 301 -3 unpack f;
#X obj -2 361 outlet;
#X obj 377 262 outlet;
#X obj 73 22 outlet;
#X obj -10 151 * 2;
#X text -43 228 count to 10 in 2 times the time in between the previous
bangs (bang means list update received);
#X text 330 122 check if id number has changed: this means elvis has
entered the building;
#X text -35 327 bang if 10 is hit and time exceeds 2 times the time
in between two previously received messages;
#X text 43 362 elvis has left the building;
#X text 423 263 elvis has entered the building;
#X text 70 41 output fudicial updates;
#X text 116 -306 reacTIVision incoming signal;
#X text 80 -287 unpack udp data to OSC data;
#X text 98 -211 split the /tuio/2Dobj symbol;
#X text 80 -274 message form for fiducial is list of 2 symbols with
10 floats: /tuio/2Dobj set #id #fudicial x y rotation float5 float6
float7 float8 float9 float10;
#X text 355 -142 Alternative Tuioclient;
#X text 362 -116 2010 \, menno;
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#X connect 2 0 1 0;
#X connect 3 1 5 0;
#X connect 3 1 8 0;
#X connect 4 0 7 0;
#X connect 5 0 4 0;
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#X declare -lib mrpeach;
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#X obj 417 -287 udpreceive ;
#X obj 417 -198 list split 1;
#X obj 484 -136 unpack s;
#X obj 

Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's

2010-11-05 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen

On 05/11/10 05:22, august wrote:

I'd like to contribute to the puredyne ppa's at launchpad.


Great!


I was wondering if someone could help me  get up to speed on how to make
a ppa, maybe with a simple example I can just copy and paste.


1. create a Launchpad account
2. sign the code of conduct
3. create a Launchpad PPA for your own use/testing/etc
4. package the software Debian-style
5. dput it to your own PPA for Launchpad to build
6. join the Puredyne team
7. copy stable versions from your PPA to the Puredyne PPA

The hard part is step 4 - takes some trial-and-error, especially for 
software that isn't simple to build.  A quick way to get examples is add 
a deb-src line to correspond to the deb line for the Puredyne PPA in 
your sources.list.d, then sudo apt-get update  apt-get source pd-foo 
to unpack the source deb.



-august.


Thanks,


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Re: [PD] Musical notation object on Pd

2010-11-05 Thread João Pais
do you have his contact? for some reason, brasilian universities don't  
have the contact of their teachers on their pages.


http://maringa.academia.edu/MarcusAlessiBittencourt


Marcus Bittencourt did some work in this direction:
http://www.rem.ufpr.br/_REM/REMv11/13/13-bittencourt-puredata.html



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] NYC Patching Circle got an Eyebeam residency

2010-11-05 Thread João Pais
great. have you ever thought of feeding these circles worldwide, as we did  
with the floss book sprint? then people from all around the world could  
take part. does it make sense?




As part of Eyebeam's X-Lab, the NYC Patching Circle has got a residency  
at Eyebeam.  So the next three NYC Patching Circles will be at Eyebeam  
on the third Thursday of November, December, and January.  So that's the  
evening of November 18th, December 16th, and January 21st, from 6-10pm.


http://eyebeam.org/this-week/10-09-28/x-lab

Also, Miller will be joining for at least one of these events.

.hc

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Re: [PD] reacTIVision client in PD on Ubuntu 64 bit

2010-11-05 Thread Stefan Jensen
Hi,...

Am Freitag, den 05.11.2010, 11:57 +0100 schrieb Menno van der Woude:

 Seems like it was built solely for 32 bit systems? I really do not know how
 to resolve this, or how to build a working pd-client from the source.

The Tuio Client for Puredata[1] contains a source.zip. Simply unpack
it and run make in this dir. That should do it.
Maybe you have to install some additional devel-packages.

best regards

Stefan

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Re: [PD] reacTIVision client in PD on Ubuntu 64 bit

2010-11-05 Thread Menno van der Woude
Stefan,

thanks a lot, that immediately worked!
The documentation for reacTIVision and related packages (e.g. portvideo) is
very elaborate.
For example I cannot find an example for the xamera.xml file, and here the
option dialog does not work.

However, thanks a lot, this does get me going!

Regards,

Menno.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Stefan Jensen sjen...@versanet.de wrote:

 Hi,...

 Am Freitag, den 05.11.2010, 11:57 +0100 schrieb Menno van der Woude:

  Seems like it was built solely for 32 bit systems? I really do not know
 how
  to resolve this, or how to build a working pd-client from the source.

 The Tuio Client for Puredata[1] contains a source.zip. Simply unpack
 it and run make in this dir. That should do it.
 Maybe you have to install some additional devel-packages.

 best regards

 Stefan

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Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's

2010-11-05 Thread august
 On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 06:22 +0100, august wrote:
 
  
  Roman, it would also be great if you could add gmerlin to your ppa
  list.   Is that difficult?  I'd think it wouldn't be too much work if
  you already have the others (gavl, etc).
 
 Simply including the sources that are already included in the official
 Ubuntu repositories is easy. But I wouldn't see any point in doing that.


hmm.  maybe I don't understand yet how it all works...

When I install the official gmerlin repo, it overwrites libgavl in
/usr/lib  with a version that is older than that which came from
installing the pd-readanysf package from the puredyne ppa's.   

I also noticed that whoever did the official package for ubuntu made
it without gmerlin_encode.  This basically makes the package useless. 

This all seems odd.  I would think there would be 4 packages:  
libgavl  - provides base library for audio video frames
libgmerlin_avdec - provides libs for decoding av
gmerlin_encode - provides plugins to gmerlin for encoding 
gmerlin - provides a framework for building gui apps, also includes
many handy applications such as gmerlin_transcoder


 Do you need a more up-to-date version of the gmerlin package? And what

It would be nice (maybe even crucial) to have all the gmerlin packages
in sync - packaged by the same method, at the same time.  

 for do you need it, just out of curiosity?

the gmerlin package has some of the nicest (and easiest) transcoding
software I have yet used.   I use it a lot.  But, the  official package
is broken as far as I can see, since it doesn't include any of the
encode plugins.   It also has a very handy ogg/vorbis/theora streaming
app that seems to be missing from the official package.   


-august.






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Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's

2010-11-05 Thread august
 On 05/11/10 05:22, august wrote:
 I'd like to contribute to the puredyne ppa's at launchpad.
 
 Great!
 
 I was wondering if someone could help me  get up to speed on how to make
 a ppa, maybe with a simple example I can just copy and paste.
 
 1. create a Launchpad account

done.

 2. sign the code of conduct

where do you do that?  Launchpad is a labyrinth. I cannot find anything
I am looking for on that site.  Maybe I already did that when I signed
up.

 3. create a Launchpad PPA for your own use/testing/etc

this is Register a project, right?   What should the name for pdogg
be in puredyne ppa?   Should it be pd-pdogg? Or, just pd-ogg?

Right now, the source has 4 externals, oggamp~, oggcast~, oggread~,
oggwrite~. Do they need to be wrapped in a library called pdogg~?
That seems unnecessary.

 4. package the software Debian-style

I was hoping I could just copy someone's deb package and change a few
variables.

 5. dput it to your own PPA for Launchpad to build

will have to look up what dput is.

 6. join the Puredyne team

I assume I do that on launchpad.

 7. copy stable versions from your PPA to the Puredyne PPA
 
 The hard part is step 4 - takes some trial-and-error, especially for
 software that isn't simple to build.  A quick way to get examples is
 add a deb-src line to correspond to the deb line for the Puredyne
 PPA in your sources.list.d, then sudo apt-get update  apt-get
 source pd-foo to unpack the source deb.

thanksthis gets me started already.


On a side note, I also noticed that many of the puredyne ppa's install
externals in /usr/lib/pd/extra/ppa-name/  where ppa-name is directory
named for the external.   But, this makes the external invisible to PD
by default.  A user has to go in and assign a path to pd  by hand to
find it.  Is there any way to get around this?



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Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's

2010-11-05 Thread august
  4. package the software Debian-style
 
 I was hoping I could just copy someone's deb package and change a few
 variables.

I just saw there is a debian/ folder in the pdogg  directory.  It
looks like it is maintained already by Hans.

Could you just add this to the puredyne ppa list?  Is that possible?

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Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's

2010-11-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Roman, IOhannes, Alexandre Quessy, and I have all joined the Debian
pkg-multimedia team to get this stuff into Debian, and therefore
automatically into Ubuntu, Linux Mint, etc.  Its quite easy to join, so
I am trying to get more people involved.  So far we've gotten a bunch of
Pd libs into Debian, so these should be all included in Ubuntu 11.04:

pd-arraysize
pd-bassemu
pd-beatpipe
pd-comport
pd-earplug
pd-freeverb
pd-iemnet
pd-libdir
pd-motex
pd-plugin
pd-pmpd
puredata-import

We've also been working on getting gmerlin-avdecoder into Debian.  Its
quite close, but Roman and IOhannes have been working on it more than me
recently, so I don't know the status. I've got a few more packaged up
and am uploading them for review right now:

pd-pddp
pd-ekext
pd-markex
pd-mjlib
pd-pan
pd-pdogg
pd-sigpack
pd-smlib
pd-windowing

.hc

On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 14:54 +0100, august wrote:
  On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 06:22 +0100, august wrote:
  
   
   Roman, it would also be great if you could add gmerlin to your ppa
   list.   Is that difficult?  I'd think it wouldn't be too much work if
   you already have the others (gavl, etc).
  
  Simply including the sources that are already included in the official
  Ubuntu repositories is easy. But I wouldn't see any point in doing that.
 
 
 hmm.  maybe I don't understand yet how it all works...
 
 When I install the official gmerlin repo, it overwrites libgavl in
 /usr/lib  with a version that is older than that which came from
 installing the pd-readanysf package from the puredyne ppa's.   
 
 I also noticed that whoever did the official package for ubuntu made
 it without gmerlin_encode.  This basically makes the package useless. 
 
 This all seems odd.  I would think there would be 4 packages:  
   libgavl  - provides base library for audio video frames
   libgmerlin_avdec - provides libs for decoding av
   gmerlin_encode - provides plugins to gmerlin for encoding 
   gmerlin - provides a framework for building gui apps, also includes
   many handy applications such as gmerlin_transcoder
 
 
  Do you need a more up-to-date version of the gmerlin package? And what
 
 It would be nice (maybe even crucial) to have all the gmerlin packages
 in sync - packaged by the same method, at the same time.  
 
  for do you need it, just out of curiosity?
 
 the gmerlin package has some of the nicest (and easiest) transcoding
 software I have yet used.   I use it a lot.  But, the  official package
 is broken as far as I can see, since it doesn't include any of the
 encode plugins.   It also has a very handy ogg/vorbis/theora streaming
 app that seems to be missing from the official package.   
 
 
 -august.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's

2010-11-05 Thread august
4. package the software Debian-style
   
   I was hoping I could just copy someone's deb package and change a few
   variables.
  
  I just saw there is a debian/ folder in the pdogg  directory.  It
  looks like it is maintained already by Hans.
  
  Could you just add this to the puredyne ppa list?  Is that possible?
 
 I think this is a perfect opportunity for an easy intro to launchpad.
 pd-pdogg is indeed ready to be uploaded, so you could upload it to pure
 dyne.  At the bottom of this page are the steps that I use, the key is
 to change the distro and version in debian/changelog from 'unstable' to
 the ubuntu distro you are targeting.
 
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/DebianTemplate
 
 .hc

when I try to add the new package pd-pdogg in launchpad, it tells me
there are similar projects such as pd-extended.  Are you packaging pdogg
already as a ppa?

IS there a pd-extended ppa?   Is it usable?  I can't find any real info
about it on launchpad.

If it is, can we merge all the purdata-related ppa's into one?

If pd-pdogg is part of pd-extended, should I continue with the
packaging?







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[PD] fx in text and background color in gem

2010-11-05 Thread cristiano figueiró
Hi list,

I`m trying to make some text and apply some pix_  fx on it.

It is working well, but i could not make it work with white background and
black text...

if someone can take a look at the patch woul be perfect,
thanks for help,

Cristiano


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Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's

2010-11-05 Thread august
 4. package the software Debian-style

I was hoping I could just copy someone's deb package and change a few
variables.
   
   I just saw there is a debian/ folder in the pdogg  directory.  It
   looks like it is maintained already by Hans.
   
   Could you just add this to the puredyne ppa list?  Is that possible?
  
  I think this is a perfect opportunity for an easy intro to launchpad.
  pd-pdogg is indeed ready to be uploaded, so you could upload it to pure
  dyne.  At the bottom of this page are the steps that I use, the key is
  to change the distro and version in debian/changelog from 'unstable' to
  the ubuntu distro you are targeting.
  
  http://puredata.info/docs/developer/DebianTemplate
  
  .hc

hans,

when I do the first step in your howto, make dpkg-source, I get this:

make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/august/externals/pdogg'
mv pdogg-0.26-svn pd-pdogg_0.26-svn
tar --exclude-vcs -czpf ../pd-pdogg_0.26-svn.orig.tar.gz
pd-pdogg_0.26-svn
rm -f -- pdogg-0.26-svn.tar.gz
rm -rf -- pdogg-0.26-svn pd-pdogg_0.26-svn
cd ..  dpkg-source -b pdogg
dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no
orig.tar file found
make: *** [dpkg-source] Error 255





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Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's

2010-11-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-11-05 17:50, august wrote:
   when I do the first step in your howto, make dpkg-source, I get this:
[...]
   dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no
   orig.tar file found
   make: *** [dpkg-source] Error 255
 


funnily enough, it was yesterday that i had to compile pdogg myself and
neither the makefile nor the debian/-package worked.
i see that august has now committed a fix for the makefile.

i suspect the quilt problem will eventually go away, once the
debian-packaging of pdogg is moved out of svn.pure-data.sf.net into the
git repository (with properly imported upstream sources).

however, debian/control lacks any mentioning of libvorbis-dev

fgasdmr
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Re: [PD] fx in text and background color in gem

2010-11-05 Thread cyrille henry

hello Cristiano,
after a gemframbuffer, you need a translateXYZ 0 0 -4

cyrille


Le 05/11/2010 17:47, cristiano figueiró a écrit :

Hi list,

I`m trying to make some text and apply some pix_  fx on it.

It is working well, but i could not make it work with white background
and black text...

if someone can take a look at the patch woul be perfect,
thanks for help,

Cristiano



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Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's

2010-11-05 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


pd-arraysize


There is no point in making tiny packages like that. In C, the command for 
that is a one-liner. Why would it have to be not only accompanied by many 
lines of wrapper commands, but also further lines of comments, its own 
file, license headers, and then a freaking deb package ?


Where are those packages :
  glibc-printf
  glibc-sprintf
  glibc-fprintf
  glibc-sin
  glibc-cos

Beyond a certain point, breaking things into little packages is stupid.

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Re: [PD] fx in text and background color in gem

2010-11-05 Thread cristiano figueiró
Hi, yes, i put the translateXYZ 0 0 -4

in this version i disconnect the pix_color before pix_texture and is working
with white font in black background, but i need the opposite,
i have tried some variations with with color and pix_color without sucess

some idea?
thanks a lot



On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:07 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote:

 hello Cristiano,
 after a gemframbuffer, you need a translateXYZ 0 0 -4

 cyrille


 Le 05/11/2010 17:47, cristiano figueiró a écrit :

 Hi list,

 I`m trying to make some text and apply some pix_  fx on it.

 It is working well, but i could not make it work with white background
 and black text...

 if someone can take a look at the patch woul be perfect,
 thanks for help,

 Cristiano



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Re: [PD] fx in text and background color in gem

2010-11-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-11-05 18:58, cristiano figueiró wrote:
 
 some idea?

apart from sending a [color 1 1 1 1( message to [gemframebuffer]?

fgamsdr
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Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's

2010-11-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes


--- On Fri, 11/5/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:

 From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
 Subject: Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 Cc: PD list pd-list@iem.at, august aug...@alien.mur.at
 Date: Friday, November 5, 2010, 6:26 PM
 On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, Hans-Christoph
 Steiner wrote:
 
  pd-arraysize
 
 There is no point in making tiny packages like that. In C,
 the command for that is a one-liner.

In Pd, it's also a one-liner: [expr size(myArray)].  Well, I guess 
it's a three-liner if you want the same functionality as [arraysize]:

[loadbang]
|
[symbol myArray(
|
[expr size($s1)]

So what is the point of [arraysize] in the first place?  Is the package 
there for compatibility for people who have already used [arraysize] 
without having known about [expr]?

-Jonathan

 Why would it have to be
 not only accompanied by many lines of wrapper commands, but
 also further lines of comments, its own file, license
 headers, and then a freaking deb package ?
 
 Where are those packages :
   glibc-printf
   glibc-sprintf
   glibc-fprintf
   glibc-sin
   glibc-cos
 
 Beyond a certain point, breaking things into little
 packages is stupid.
 
 
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Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's

2010-11-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Nov 5, 2010, at 1:06 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:


On 2010-11-05 17:50, august wrote:
	when I do the first step in your howto, make dpkg-source, I get  
this:

[...]

dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no
orig.tar file found
make: *** [dpkg-source] Error 255




funnily enough, it was yesterday that i had to compile pdogg myself  
and

neither the makefile nor the debian/-package worked.
i see that august has now committed a fix for the makefile.

i suspect the quilt problem will eventually go away, once the
debian-packaging of pdogg is moved out of svn.pure-data.sf.net into  
the

git repository (with properly imported upstream sources).

however, debian/control lacks any mentioning of libvorbis-dev



Thanks for the fix, august, I had to tweak it to make it work on all  
platforms.  The package does now have libvorbis-dev as a Build-Dep.


As for my PPA, you are welcome to use stuff from it, but don't expect  
it to be reliable.  I regularly delete and change things with zero  
thought about users.  That's the point of it, a testbed to iron things  
out without dealing with baggage.


https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/libdirs

If you want a reliable PPA, use puredyne.

.hc



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for machines to execute.

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Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's

2010-11-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Nov 5, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:




--- On Fri, 11/5/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:


From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
Subject: Re: [PD] ubuntu ppa's
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Cc: PD list pd-list@iem.at, august aug...@alien.mur.at
Date: Friday, November 5, 2010, 6:26 PM
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, Hans-Christoph
Steiner wrote:


pd-arraysize


There is no point in making tiny packages like that. In C,
the command for that is a one-liner.


In Pd, it's also a one-liner: [expr size(myArray)].  Well, I guess
it's a three-liner if you want the same functionality as [arraysize]:

[loadbang]
|
[symbol myArray(
|
[expr size($s1)]

So what is the point of [arraysize] in the first place?  Is the  
package

there for compatibility for people who have already used [arraysize]
without having known about [expr]?


yup, its all about compatibility with how people have used it.

.hc



-Jonathan


Why would it have to be
not only accompanied by many lines of wrapper commands, but
also further lines of comments, its own file, license
headers, and then a freaking deb package ?

Where are those packages :
 glibc-printf
 glibc-sprintf
 glibc-fprintf
 glibc-sin
 glibc-cos

Beyond a certain point, breaking things into little
packages is stupid.


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