[PD] array size (was Re: arraysize)

2012-09-28 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 09/28/2012 02:01 AM, Miller Puckette wrote: Hmm... I agree there's bad confusion between array and table in Pd nomenclature. I've tried to use table for a specifically floating-point array, and array for the more general thing, but I think I've been less than consistent (case in point, the

Re: [PD] The HISSTools Impulse Response Toolbox: Convolution for the Masses. Call for port to Pd from Max

2012-09-28 Thread Julian Brooks
Excellent start - hey Katja, good to hear from you. Yes indeed, my brief look at the patches suggests the graphics will be tricky and I presume not very native to Pd, we are going to require someone with decent GEM skills methinks (anyone up for that?). Agreed too that for live performance they

Re: [PD] The HISSTools Impulse Response Toolbox: Convolution for the Masses. Call for port to Pd from Max

2012-09-28 Thread Julian Brooks
P.S. Of course it doesn't 'have' to be GEM but I guess that's the obvious initial thought. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] Changing camera position in GEM with buffer set to 1

2012-09-28 Thread Antonio Roberts
Is it possible to change the position of the camera in GEM when the buffer is set to 1? In my initial tests I've only been able to do this when I also send a bang to the GEM window. Even the [camera] object doesn't allow me to update the view Thanks Antonio --

Re: [PD] arraysize WAS apt.puredata.info is back!

2012-09-28 Thread Simon Wise
On 28/09/12 12:48, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm referring to what Hans wrote: For me, apt-get install pd-arraysize is far easier than trying to remember that [expr] trick. And thankfully we can write externals, so we can have choice. :-) exactly ... Not exactly-- you were

[PD] Font usage in vanilla

2012-09-28 Thread Julian Brooks
Hey all, I'm kinda stuck... I want to add a font (linux-libertine) for use in Pd vanilla, specifically for use with [cnv], and I'm not sure how to add it in. I've done this: julian@brooks:~/Desktop$ fc-match mono //suggested from here:

Re: [PD] debugging sporadic hangs at startup

2012-09-28 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
So, this does not catch any of the tcl errors (or perhaps none were generated). Short of rewriting how messages are broadcast, is there an easy and global way of redirecting all tcl output errors to a file? I read about interp bgerror, but am not sure if this will catch networked stuff (which is

Re: [PD] Font usage in vanilla

2012-09-28 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 09/28/2012 01:55 PM, Julian Brooks wrote: Hey all, I'm kinda stuck... I want to add a font (linux-libertine) for use in Pd vanilla, specifically for use with [cnv], and I'm not sure how to add it in. afair, all the iemguis have hardcoded fonts which cannot be changed in a simple way.

Re: [PD] Font usage in vanilla

2012-09-28 Thread Julian Brooks
Ok, bugger. Ah well, will have to put my pedantic aestheticism to one side for now. Possible future feature request? Cheers IOhannes, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] array size (was Re: arraysize)

2012-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 09/28/2012 04:00 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 09/28/2012 02:01 AM, Miller Puckette wrote: Hmm... I agree there's bad confusion between array and table in Pd nomenclature. I've tried to use table for a specifically floating-point array, and array for the more general thing, but I think

Re: [PD] debugging sporadic hangs at startup

2012-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
This might be a good opportunity to rewrite some parts of the s_inter.c mess. I did this kind of debugging on Mac OS X simply because the way s_inter.c handles the Tcl process means that you can run the Tcl console, which is incredibly valuable for debugging the GUI. For an example of that on

Re: [PD] debugging sporadic hangs at startup

2012-09-28 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
For an example of that on GNU/Linux, run 'wish'. You'll see that it launches a barebones wish window, but you'll also see that wish gives you a prompt. That's a live prompt where you can edit the currently running program, as well as get stdout and stderr. The GNU/Linux code in s_inter.c

Re: [PD] debugging sporadic hangs at startup

2012-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 09/28/2012 10:19 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: For an example of that on GNU/Linux, run 'wish'. You'll see that it launches a barebones wish window, but you'll also see that wish gives you a prompt. That's a live prompt where you can edit the currently running program, as well as get stdout

[PD] Stdout, stderr, and vice versa.

2012-09-28 Thread Pierre Massat
Hey List, I studied a very good book about the linux command line this summer, and it's changed my life (opened a few doors, at least. Get it here : http://ignum.dl.sourceforge.net/project/linuxcommand/TLCL/09.12/TLCL-09.12.pdf). Anyways, I would like to know where i could find information on

Re: [PD] array size (was Re: arraysize)

2012-09-28 Thread Miller Puckette
Well, I'm persuadable on this front. I'm concerned with unduly hogging the object namespace - in general, every time I add an object name I potentially introduce incompatiblities with someone's abstraction that might have the same name. And there are 50 or so new classes (!) to provide. I don't

Re: [PD] debugging sporadic hangs at startup

2012-09-28 Thread Miller Puckette
The (ridiculous) thing I'd do in this situation would be to save Pd's tcl output to a file, then run wish from the command line, and in the console have tcl execute the saved file. cheers M On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:31:34AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On 09/28/2012 10:19 AM, Ivica Ico

Re: [PD] Stdout, stderr, and vice versa.

2012-09-28 Thread Miller Puckette
There is a good bit of stuff Pd prints out on stderr (and it shouldn't be - it should appear on the Pd window - I've started painfully moving the messages over for 0.44 but it will be a while before I find them all. Meanwhile, from a terminal window, you can type pd -stderr and everything will

Re: [PD] Stdout, stderr, and vice versa.

2012-09-28 Thread Pierre Massat
Ok, i'll try this flag. Thanks! 2012/9/28 Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu There is a good bit of stuff Pd prints out on stderr (and it shouldn't be - it should appear on the Pd window - I've started painfully moving the messages over for 0.44 but it will be a while before I find them all.

Re: [PD] array size (was Re: arraysize)

2012-09-28 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
On 28/09/12 16:23, Miller Puckette wrote: Well, I'm persuadable on this front. I'm concerned with unduly hogging the object namespace - in general, every time I add an object name I potentially introduce incompatiblities with someone's abstraction that might have the same name. And there are

Re: [PD] array size (was Re: arraysize)

2012-09-28 Thread Cyrille Henry
hello, i'm very concern about compatibility, but on the other hand : - if you include a list_lenght in pd, lot's of people abstraction may have the same name, but chances are that they all do the same, and that patch will not be broken. - one still can use it's abstraction with

Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.42.5 packages for many Ubuntu releases, i386/amd64

2012-09-28 Thread András Murányi
I hear that OpenSUSE's build server will build Debian packages, but I've never used it. It would be very useful if someone set that up, I think can also build Fedora and SUSE packages. I played around with OpenSUSE's OBS but it's not a success yet. It needs a something.spec file

Re: [PD] arraysize WAS apt.puredata.info is back!

2012-09-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [PD] arraysize WAS apt.puredata.info is back! On 28/09/12 12:48, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:   

Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.42.5 packages for many Ubuntu releases, i386/amd64

2012-09-28 Thread Rick T
Greets Hans I'm testing your new version in ubuntu 12.04 64bit. However when I add the ppa and the deb line and do an sudo apt-get update the ubuntu software center does not find it. Any idea why? Aloha Rick On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Back

Re: [PD] array size (was Re: arraysize)

2012-09-28 Thread Charles Goyard
Hi, Cyrille Henry wrote: - if you include a list_lenght in pd, lot's of people abstraction may have the same name No, only people with bad speling. ok, noisy useless post :) ++ -- Charlot ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.42.5 packages for many Ubuntu releases, i386/amd64

2012-09-28 Thread batinste
Have a look at https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/+packages : Precise and Oneiric versions failed to build, so synaptic cannot show you any installable version. On 28/09/2012 19:07, Rick T wrote: Greets Hans I'm testing your new version in ubuntu 12.04 64bit. However

Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.42.5 packages for many Ubuntu releases, i386/amd64

2012-09-28 Thread Rick T
Thanks ;-) Aloha Rick On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:32 AM, batinste dwanaf...@yahoo.fr wrote: Have a look at https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/+packages : Precise and Oneiric versions failed to build, so synaptic cannot show you any installable version. On 28/09/2012

Re: [PD] arraysize WAS apt.puredata.info is back!

2012-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 09/28/2012 12:57 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [PD] arraysize WAS apt.puredata.info is back!

Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.42.5 packages for many Ubuntu releases, i386/amd64

2012-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yup, exactly. I'm working on getting it working on oneiric and precise... those two will definitely be included. .hc On 09/28/2012 02:32 PM, batinste wrote: Have a look at https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/+packages : Precise and Oneiric versions failed to build, so

Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.42.5 packages for many Ubuntu releases, i386/amd64

2012-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 09/28/2012 12:10 PM, András Murányi wrote: It could be a useful way to provide Debian/squeeze packages. If you want to try my new Pd-extended proper debian support, run: $ ~/auto-build/pd-extended/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-source-tarball.sh $ mv

Re: [PD] arraysize WAS apt.puredata.info is back!

2012-09-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [PD] arraysize WAS apt.puredata.info is back! On 09/28/2012 12:57 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message -

Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.42.5 packages for many Ubuntu releases, i386/amd64

2012-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 09/28/2012 03:24 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On 09/28/2012 12:10 PM, András Murányi wrote: It could be a useful way to provide Debian/squeeze packages. If you want to try my new Pd-extended proper debian support, run: $

Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.42.5 packages for many Ubuntu releases, i386/amd64

2012-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 09/28/2012 04:03 PM, András Murányi wrote: I think it'll be a lot easier if you start with just 'puredata' and the libs based on the Library Template. Then once you get the hang of basic RPM packaging, you can take on the whole pd-extended, which can be painful. Also, I think that

Re: [PD] arraysize WAS apt.puredata.info is back!

2012-09-28 Thread Simon Wise
On 29/09/12 00:57, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: So if you think the debian repos are the first place to look, then you would agree they are the first place I look for a file I am missing, so if someone referred to [arraysize] I'd check if I have it available by: $ apt-file search arraysize.pd

Re: [PD] arraysize WAS apt.puredata.info is back!

2012-09-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [PD] arraysize WAS apt.puredata.info is back! On 29/09/12 00:57, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: