Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness

2013-06-26 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 06/25/2013 01:24 PM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: On 24/06/2013 18:58, Miller Puckette wrote: Thanks... I'm toying with a middle solution, which would be simply to open jack with the JackNoStartServer option (one of JackOpenOptions). I think this is a good idea anyway as the user might want to

Re: [PD] Where is vanilla's makefile and other stuff located?

2013-06-26 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
I realised what happened. I've downloaded Pd from Ubuntu software center and it installed everything where it's supposed to go. What now confuses me a bit is that in the software center you can find the following: puredata, puredata-core and puredata-gui. If you go for puredata-core it advices you

Re: [PD] electro-mechanical piano (player piano) - Arduino, Solenoid Issue

2013-06-26 Thread Charles Goyard
Hi, this is largely off-topic, but there you go :) Epic Jefferson wrote: I've had progress building an Arduino-powered solenoid system for a controlling a piano's hammer mechanism (removing the keys) via pd. So far I've found the solenoid I want to use. With solenoids you will not get

Re: [PD] Where is vanilla's makefile and other stuff located?

2013-06-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-26 09:56, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: I realised what happened. I've downloaded Pd from Ubuntu software center and it installed everything where it's supposed to go. What now confuses me a bit is that in the software center you can find

Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness

2013-06-26 Thread batinste
I guess that asking Ardour's main dev (Paul Davis, also one of jackd's devs) about the expected behaviour of a jack app would be a good idea. While Ardour without audio is pretty useless (not so true anymore since it does midi now, but well), Pd is not, so my take on this is don't do anything

Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness

2013-06-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-26 11:16, batinste wrote: I guess that asking Ardour's main dev (Paul Davis, also one of jackd's devs) about the expected behaviour of a jack app would be a good idea. i'd rather ask the entire jack-dev crew. while paul has written the

Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness

2013-06-26 Thread batinste
On 26/06/2013 11:31, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-26 11:16, batinste wrote: I guess that asking Ardour's main dev (Paul Davis, also one of jackd's devs) about the expected behaviour of a jack app would be a good idea. i'd rather ask the

Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness

2013-06-26 Thread yvan volochine
On 26/06/13 11:31, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: yes, i would like to have an -audio auto switch, that will try to get*any* audio backend (e.g. jack, alsa, oss, dummy; in that order) i even think that this should be the default (e.g. when you start Pd with no arguments and uninitialized settings).

[PD] Get path of patch ?

2013-06-26 Thread Jan Baumgart
Is there any way to retrieve the path, a patch is stored in? Like path - [thispatcher] in max? thx cheers, Jan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Get path of patch ?

2013-06-26 Thread Jan Baumgart
Sorry for the noise. Should have looked in the archives first %-p On 26.6.13 13:03 , Jan Baumgart wrote: Is there any way to retrieve the path, a patch is stored in? Like path - [thispatcher] in max? thx cheers, Jan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list

Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness

2013-06-26 Thread Nick Lanham
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013, yvan volochine wrote: but please provide a way to disable this autostart-audio feature. (I don't know any audio app which starts jack for me Any jack application that calls jack_client_open and does not pass JackNoStartServer will have this behavior. You probably just

Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness

2013-06-26 Thread yvan volochine
On 26/06/13 12:57, Nick Lanham wrote: In my experience, most people using jack these days are aware that most clients will autostart the server if they haven't started it, and it does not confuse them. yeah well in my expericence you don't need to open a terminal and kill jackd because an app

Re: [PD] Get path of patch ?

2013-06-26 Thread Max
the next one who will search the archive might find this first, so let's just write it down again: [ggee/getdir] might be what you need. the amazing search plugin helps tremendously to find such things. max Am 26.06.2013 um 13:05 schrieb Jan Baumgart raga.r...@gmx.de: Sorry for the noise.

Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness

2013-06-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-26 12:29, batinste wrote: On 26/06/2013 11:31, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2013-06-26 11:16, batinste wrote: I guess that asking Ardour's main dev (Paul Davis, also one of jackd's devs) about the expected behaviour of a jack app

Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness

2013-06-26 Thread Nick Lanham
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013, yvan volochine wrote: On 26/06/13 12:57, Nick Lanham wrote: In my experience, most people using jack these days are aware that most clients will autostart the server if they haven't started it, and it does not confuse them. yeah well in my experience you don't need to

Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness

2013-06-26 Thread yvan volochine
On 26/06/13 14:11, Nick Lanham wrote: * ardour3 does not - Yes it does. It will pop up a dialog asking you to configure jack first, but it does start it. of course you're right, my mistake.. I would expect a call to `jack_client_open()` when I turn DSP on, not when I launch an app with

Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness

2013-06-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-26 14:11, Nick Lanham wrote: I would expect a call to `jack_client_open()` when I turn DSP on, not when I launch an app with which I might not make audio at all.. Agreed. If I don't turn on DSP, PD probably shouldn't start jack,

Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness

2013-06-26 Thread Dan Wilcox
A checkbox in the audio settings? [X] Autostart jack server on pd startup On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:11 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: From: yvan volochine yvan...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness Date: June 26, 2013 6:28:57 AM EDT To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at On

Re: [PD] electro-mechanical piano (player piano) - Arduino, Solenoid Issue

2013-06-26 Thread Martin Peach
On 2013-06-26 03:51, Charles Goyard wrote: Hi, this is largely off-topic, but there you go :) Epic Jefferson wrote: I've had progress building an Arduino-powered solenoid system for a controlling a piano's hammer mechanism (removing the keys) via pd. So far I've found the solenoid I want to

Re: [PD] electro-mechanical piano (player piano) - Arduino, Solenoid Issue

2013-06-26 Thread Epic Jefferson
Charles Z Henry batinste: I need the project to be pd controlled, i could try multiplexing but i haven't found info yet on how to control multiplexed pins via pd. Peter Venus: i've been in contact with Winfried, and was about to purchase one of his older systems but haven't heard from him in a

Re: [PD] Get path of patch ?

2013-06-26 Thread Ivica Bukvic
FWIW pd-l2ork also has patch_name that provides both the patch path and the patch name. On Jun 26, 2013 7:54 AM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: the next one who will search the archive might find this first, so let's just write it down again: [ggee/getdir] might be what you need. the

Re: [PD] electro-mechanical piano (player piano) - Arduino, Solenoid Issue

2013-06-26 Thread batinste
That is one of the many cases where my advice would be : don't use firmata/pduino. Program the arduino for real. Use a basic custom protocol over the serial link, and talk to the arduino with [comport]. You'd spend much more time trying to get it to work with firmata/pduino than programming

Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness

2013-06-26 Thread Miller Puckette
OK.. I made an attempt to fix the problem a diffferent (perhaps smarter) way... I made a change that migth make pd-watchdog quit more reliably when Pd exits. I believe Pd itself wil still go into zombie state waiting for its 'child' jackd to exit - and I think this is a problem in jack - but

Re: [PD] electro-mechanical piano (player piano) - Arduino, Solenoid Issue

2013-06-26 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
Dunno if it helps, but I messed around with multiplexing and arduino some time ago and finally got it to work. You can check the arduino sketch and pd patch here http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-8867-arduino-multiplexers-solved This is only for reading multiplexed pins though, not for writing,

[PD] compiling pd vanilla on a mac

2013-06-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi,    Any clues about this ./configure error: configure: error: Couldn't find 10.5, 10.6, or 10.7 SDK configure: error: ./configure failed for portaudio I have no clue how to check what SDK version I have installed (Google returns nothing useful) For reference: After agreeing to some stupid

Re: [PD] compiling pd vanilla on a mac

2013-06-26 Thread Miller Puckette
I find configure scripts too complicated for human understanding, and so I just use the hand-edited makefile: make -f makefile.mac, invoked from the /src directory. cheers Miller On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 02:47:58PM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi,    Any clues about this ./configure error:

Re: [PD] compiling pd vanilla on a mac

2013-06-26 Thread Dan Wilcox
Did you install Xcode? You need more than the commandline tools, that's just git and a bunch of other things like it. The compiler and frameworks come with the Xcode app itself. You didn't find any info on Google because it's Mac and *everyone* installs the GUI app first (aka Xcode), so they'd

Re: [PD] compiling pd vanilla on a mac

2013-06-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
From: Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [PD] compiling pd vanilla on a mac Did you install Xcode? Nope!  I thought the