Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-02-17 Thread carmen
> with server-side Pd. The Google SOC can be about anything, but Pd has > these very good advantages over other dataflow languages : > > * can be used with no GUI (server-side) you're joking? before i submitted pd to the dataflow category in dmoz, everythign there was some kind of programming la

Re: [PD] Dynamic patching questions

2007-02-17 Thread marius schebella
hi alexandre, if you need a lot of dynamic patching, the object I recommend is [dyn~]. if you just want to edit "real" patches, then it is not really possible. or at least not without bad hacks. the use of [namecanvas $0] in this particular way is I think not possible, because $0 will be subst

Re: [PD] Dynamic patching questions

2007-02-17 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Alexandre Quessy wrote: 4) Where can I find an abstraction or object to convert any familiar representation of colors to the Tk colors (or whatever is used for GUI objects) ? [#color] from gridflow has code that does this, or the "edit" subpatch of the iemgui help objects has some rgb->iemgui

Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-02-17 Thread Alexandre Quessy
2007/2/18, padawan12 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I guess having stringy things helps a lot now. Wonder if anyone ever written a webserver in Pd? Or something like pd mod-perl module or pd python module for Apache, that would be fun, to make pd behave as a web application component for data views/represe

[PD] Dynamic patching questions

2007-02-17 Thread Alexandre Quessy
Hi, A few questions regarding dynamic patching using only Pd messages (or internals) : 1) Is it possible to delete and disconnect objects without clearing the whole canvas ? 2) Is it ok to create GUI objects with not even half the arguments it could take ? Pd seems to be likely to crash when we

Re: [PD] pix_film more questions

2007-02-17 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
On 2/18/07, Martin Peach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > On 2/17/07, chris clepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> properly drop frames and adhere to a wall clock. The windows version >> still >> has some problems with timing and will make some Keystone Cops >> footage if he >>

Re: [PD] Noop message.

2007-02-17 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
float won't take "noop". On 2/18/07, hard off <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>with a list, route only works on the first element<< yeah, so unpack the list first, and route each output individually. like: [unpack float float float] || | [route

Re: [PD] Noop message.

2007-02-17 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
I mean, [unpack float float float] won't take "noop" On 2/18/07, hard off <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>with a list, route only works on the first element<< yeah, so unpack the list first, and route each output individually. like: [unpack float float float] |

Re: [PD] Noop message.

2007-02-17 Thread hard off
with a list, route only works on the first element<< yeah, so unpack the list first, and route each output individually. like: [unpack float float float] || | [route noop] [route noop] [route noop] | |

Re: [PD] pix_film more questions

2007-02-17 Thread Martin Peach
Chuckk Hubbard wrote: On 2/17/07, chris clepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: properly drop frames and adhere to a wall clock. The windows version still has some problems with timing and will make some Keystone Cops footage if he load is extremely high. I'm from the Keystone State and this off

Re: [PD] Noop message.

2007-02-17 Thread Alexandre Quessy
[route noop] and keep only the rest. a 2007/2/17, Chuckk Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Actually, you will have trouble with any of these, as just about any object that expects a float (number) will not pass anything if it gets a symbol (word). I'm looking for a way to do it with a couple of list

Re: [PD] Noop message.

2007-02-17 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
Actually, you will have trouble with any of these, as just about any object that expects a float (number) will not pass anything if it gets a symbol (word). I'm looking for a way to do it with a couple of list objects, but it could be ugly. -Chuckk On 2/17/07, Chuckk Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [PD] Saving abstraction states?

2007-02-17 Thread Chris McCormick
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 02:17:44PM -0700, Vreahli the Audio Bandit wrote: > Heya again - more questions. I'm trying to find a way to save presets or > states for a patch in an abstraction within a patch. If I create an > array with [table] it gets dumped out. I've read a bit about memento, > how

Re: [PD] Noop message.

2007-02-17 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
Except that, with a list, route only works on the first element; and [unpack] won't accept a float as a symbol or a symbol as a float. One solution would be to use 'noop' in place of symbols and '-1' or any number you're not likely to need in place of numbers. Or heck, keep numbers and symbols i

Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-02-17 Thread Chris McCormick
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 11:15:43PM +0100, Georg Holzmann wrote: > it runs again: > http://code.google.com/soc/ > so it's quite soon ... > any suggestions for projects ? Günter mentioned updating PDa to the latest version of Pd to me once. I would love to see that happen, and it sounds like ideal w

Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-02-17 Thread Chris McCormick
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 04:19:28PM +, padawan12 wrote: > Or can the summer of code thing just be about any stuff you like and not > limited to web programming? It can be about anything. Chris. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mccormick.cx

Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-02-17 Thread padawan12
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:15:43 +0100 Georg Holzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo! > > > Its not a sure thing that they'll run it again, so we'll just have to > > wait and see... > > it runs again: > http://code.google.com/soc/ > > > How does a mentoring organization apply? > > The organi

Re: [PD] Noop message.

2007-02-17 Thread hard off
for control data, i just use -1 as a 'noop' , and then [route -1]..all the data except -1 comes out the right outlet ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Re: infinite composing

2007-02-17 Thread marius schebella
the call is written in a way that makes me think, that the producers don't know to much about what is going on in the world... but maybe the reason is, that there is no such thing as a kiosk mode or a protection from changing the patch in pd. otoh writing an email and telling them that installing

Re: [PD] Saving abstraction states?

2007-02-17 Thread hard off
you can use any of the gui sliders/boxes/radios and set them to 'init' in properties. then when you save your patch, the gui objects will be state saved. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/

Re: [PD] Noop message.

2007-02-17 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
Then I'd have to have some idea what the format of the messages will be, and what will be receiving them. If you want certain fields to be optional, perhaps the lines in your text file could use indices; then you could use [list split] to break each line into lists of 2 items, and send these to [;

[PD] Re: pix_film more questions (Roman Haefeli)

2007-02-17 Thread schiemer
If you're worried by metro's irregularity then you should use Eric Lyons' samm~ (sample accurate multiple metronomes). This is described in http://www.sarc.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonPapers/SampleAccurate-Lyon-ICMC2006.pdf ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UN

Re: [PD] Noop message.

2007-02-17 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
On the same token, [route noop] would output the original message from the right outlet if it's not noop. I guess, depending which object was doing the receiving, the left outlet wouldn't have to be hooked up at all. If it was going into [pack], for instance, or [append], I believe they store old

Re: [PD] pix_film more questions

2007-02-17 Thread chris clepper
On 2/17/07, Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hallo, chris clepper hat gesagt: // chris clepper wrote: > The metro is not so hot in Pd either. Good luck. [metro] in Pd is hot enough to play in sync with a phasor~, see attached patch. Media handling APIs have internal clocks and it

[PD] Re: infinite composing

2007-02-17 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
>> Please note, that works must be compatible with Macintosh computers in >> either QuickTime, max/MSP, Flash, Firefox or Safari. > >If a competition allows to submit music generators made in Max/MSP, but >disallows submitting music generators made in PureData, then why is such >an announcement rel

Re: [PD] Noop message.

2007-02-17 Thread Charles Henry
I can't say much for special message status, but you could use a select object on the recieving end of your messages. [select noop] would have two outlets and output a bang from the right outlet for any message other than "noop" (and a bang from the left inlet for "noop") Chuck On 2/17/07, David

Re: [PD] pix_film more questions

2007-02-17 Thread chris clepper
On 2/17/07, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hm. i can see why someone would rather pd/gem have to drop one or the another frame, if cpu-load is too high, when playing a movie-file, instead of playing each frame in order, while losing timing. but why would someone want [pix_record] to d

Re: [PD] Noop message.

2007-02-17 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
You could use "bang" for the empty message and have all fields filtered through [float] or [symbol] or [list] or whatever. Then if they receive "bang" they just output their existing value. -Chuckk On 2/17/07, David F. Place <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maestri: I would like a special message (

Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-02-17 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Its not a sure thing that they'll run it again, so we'll just have to wait and see... it runs again: http://code.google.com/soc/ How does a mentoring organization apply? The organization should choose a single administrator to submit its application via the GSoC web app between Marc

[PD] Noop message.

2007-02-17 Thread David F. Place
Maestri: I would like a special message (let's call it "noop") which when sent does nothing. (That is to say, sending it would be like not sending it.) This would be useful in automation. For instance, I may have a program which generates a bunch of events which I will trigger using [t

Re: [PD] pix_film more questions

2007-02-17 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
On 2/17/07, chris clepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: properly drop frames and adhere to a wall clock. The windows version still has some problems with timing and will make some Keystone Cops footage if he load is extremely high. I'm from the Keystone State and this offends me. -Chuckk -- htt

[PD] Saving abstraction states?

2007-02-17 Thread Vreahli the Audio Bandit
Heya again - more questions. I'm trying to find a way to save presets or states for a patch in an abstraction within a patch. If I create an array with [table] it gets dumped out. I've read a bit about memento, however I have bad luck with abstractions so I'd rather try to do it by hand. :) How

Re: [PD] msd error message

2007-02-17 Thread marius schebella
funny, yesterday I ran into exact the same problem... I did not investigate, but think that msd does not know what to do with the [bang( will post more later... marius. Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Hi list~ What does this error message mean? msd: message unhandled - inlet:0 args:0 symbol:bang I am

Re: [PD] pix_film more questions

2007-02-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 12:58 -0600, chris clepper wrote: > On 2/17/07, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The metro is not so hot in Pd either. Good luck. > > here we go again. we already had a discussion here about that > topic > withou

Re: [PD] Re: [PD-announce] Call for works: Infinite Composing

2007-02-17 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Good to hear from you. And good question. ~Kyle On 2/17/07, Mathieu Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Infinite Composing wrote: > Please note, that works must be compatible with Macintosh computers in > either QuickTime, max/MSP, Flash, Firefox or Safari. If a competit

Re: [PD] pix_film more questions

2007-02-17 Thread chris clepper
On 2/17/07, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The metro is not so hot in Pd either. Good luck. here we go again. we already had a discussion here about that topic without a satisfying conclusion (at least for me). what exactly do you mean by 'not so hot'? is it inaccurate when using

[PD] Re: [PD-announce] Call for works: Infinite Composing

2007-02-17 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Infinite Composing wrote: Please note, that works must be compatible with Macintosh computers in either QuickTime, max/MSP, Flash, Firefox or Safari. If a competition allows to submit music generators made in Max/MSP, but disallows submitting music generators made in Pure

[PD] msd error message

2007-02-17 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Hi list~ What does this error message mean? msd: message unhandled - inlet:0 args:0 symbol:bang I am trying to run 01_msdtest.pd on OS X 10.4 using Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7. The libs are loaded as far as I can tell. Thanks, ~Kyle -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.co

Re: [PD] pix_film more questions

2007-02-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 18:58 -0600, chris clepper wrote: > > i'll do a test tomorrow. if i use a metro, will it > automatically compensate for runtime jitter, i.e. will > it stay stable over time (i know metro is horrors in > max). > > The metro is not so ho

Re: [PD] pix_film more questions

2007-02-17 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, chris clepper hat gesagt: // chris clepper wrote: > The metro is not so hot in Pd either. Good luck. [metro] in Pd is hot enough to play in sync with a phasor~, see attached patch. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ #N canvas 139 52 678 606 10;

Re: [PD] PD - patches do not display - problem solved

2007-02-17 Thread nathaniel bartlett
Hi, I just configured X by hand and that fixed the problem. The Nvidia gui wasn't working quite right for me. Best, Nate On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 14:45 +0900, hard off wrote: > did you try opening a file from the menubar using the open command? > is editmode turned on? (ctrl E , usually) > _

Re: [PD] Variable speed tabwrite~

2007-02-17 Thread Georg Holzmann
Servus ! is there a way to write audio into an array at variable speed? Like in tabread4~, controlled by another audio signal (read: phasor~) I don't know what you mean with "variable speed" - you can write audio in an array as variable as you want ... What do you want to do ? LG Georg ___

Re: [PD] Variable speed tabwrite~

2007-02-17 Thread Thomas Grill
Hi Peter, you could use xrecord~ which has a control inlet (a signal). all the best, Thomas Peter Plessas schrieb: Dear List, is there a way to write audio into an array at variable speed? Like in tabread4~, controlled by another audio signal (read: phasor~) thanks for ideas, regards,Peter

[PD] Variable speed tabwrite~

2007-02-17 Thread Peter Plessas
Dear List, is there a way to write audio into an array at variable speed? Like in tabread4~, controlled by another audio signal (read: phasor~) thanks for ideas, regards,Peter ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> h