[PD] unit impulse without [dirac~]

2007-11-16 Thread Andy Farnell
The [dirac~] object generates a unit impulse (at the sample position given by its input) I'm trying to think of simple ways to do it in plain vanilla. Frank gave a one way before, differentiating a step impulse with [rzero~], can anyone think of other ways (I'm sure there's more than one)

Re: [PD] bit operations on samples ~ ... couldn't create

2007-11-16 Thread Derek Holzer
This is a file name problem which happens on some systems but not others which does not allow or to be used in filenames. Commonly reported problem. Workaround is to replace with: [expr~ $v1 $v2] best, d. patrick wrote: i would like to test it out, but: ~ 0.5 ... couldn't create

Re: [PD] bit operations on samples ~ ... couldn't create

2007-11-16 Thread patrick
i would like to test it out, but: ~ 0.5 ... couldn't create i have extended (Pd version 0.41.0-extended-20071114) - linux. i tried to [import zexy] but still not working. note that other external from zexy are working like [prime], [l2s]. and finally, not just the help of [coll] is not

[PD] Audio drops when drawing tables/ non selectable structure

2007-11-16 Thread gilberto bernardes
Dear list I'm recording arround 2-5 seconds of sound in real time and drawing it into a table. During this procedure I'm also making a textfile with all the points of the array. During this procedure the audio drops for a brief moment. Can someone tell me all the procedures I can do to try to

Re: [PD] Audio drops when drawing tables/ non selectable structure

2007-11-16 Thread hard off
why do you need the textfile? there might be a better option than that. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] [pd] upsampled readsf~

2007-11-16 Thread hard off
sorry for reposting an old topic, but i couldn't find a simple patch to demonstrate the method. how do you upsample a readsf~ so that it will write an array quickly? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

[PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended and Pd-0.39.3-extended on 10.5 Leopard

2007-11-16 Thread bsoisoi
Hey all, is anyone else having difficulties running either version of Pd- extended on OS X 10.5 Leopard? Whenever I hit the Help menu item, the whole program crashes. After this point, I am no longer able to save files, as the program will then crash upon save. I wouldn't be surprised

Re: [PD] Fwd: Bug entering '{' characters WAS: who is using [entry]?

2007-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
yeah, that's a known bug throughout Pd. I wonder if you send {} whether that works? Is it only an unmatched { that causes the problem? I suppose the text widget should filter those out then. .hc On Nov 15, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Mike McGonagle wrote: Hans, Last night, I think I found a

Re: [PD] Japanese pdpedia template

2007-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, I am glad that you are taking this on. I am hoping that pdpedia will allow all of the different Pd communities around the world to collaborate, even if they don't share the same language (besides Pd;). Ok, here you go: http://wiki.puredata.info/ja Sign up for an account, and tell me

Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended and Pd-0.39.3-extended on 10.5 Leopard

2007-11-16 Thread Si Mills
Hi Apple released 10.5.1 update today and it was hoped that it might solve this issue, but it doesn't seem to be any different. hopefully this will be rectified soon! thanks On 16 Nov 2007, at 13:07, bsoisoi wrote: Hey all, is anyone else having difficulties running either version of

[PD] Pd + asterisk?

2007-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, I just met the development team of Asterisk at a talk they gave. For those who don't know it, it's free software for building complete phone systems, including voicemail, touch tone menus, voice prompts, voice recogniztion integration, etc. It's very cool software, it allows

Re: [PD] [pd] upsampled readsf~

2007-11-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
afaik, [readsf~] is 'stupid' and will always read in the environment's sampling rate. in order to read faster, put [readsf~] in a subpatch together with a [block~ 1 1 64], so that it reads 64 times quicker than at standard sampling rate. roman On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 22:38 +0900, hard off wrote:

Re: [PD] unit impulse without [dirac~]

2007-11-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
with [vilne~] you can generate whatever signal you like. you probably need to take the current [samplerate~] into account in order to correctly imitate [dirac~] from zexy, since [vline~] measures in ms and your desired signal is based on samples. roman On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 21:23 +, Andy

[PD] [event] OpenLab#4 London

2007-11-16 Thread [*~]
Hi all: We will be doing a event less than a couple of weeks time. everyone (in and around london) is welcome! see below for detail. cheers chun 8-8-- ++ ||

Re: [PD] Audio drops when drawing tables/ non selectable structure

2007-11-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 14:29 +0100, Derek Holzer wrote: Hi Gilberto: the two main things that cause audio dropouts in PD besides CPU overload are: 1) Writing to visible tables/arrays i cannot confirm this on my ubuntu box. what i notice is, that display isn't updated when the content of

Re: [PD] bit operations on samples

2007-11-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 20:40 +0900, hard off wrote: roman, that's awesome. i'll try to use this to add markers to sound files in my sound editor. on cost of a bit? hm... i don't think that 16bit is that much a waste of bits, so that one of them should be 'abused' for something else than

Re: [PD] pix_video: composite or Firewire ?

2007-11-16 Thread simon wise
On 16 Nov 2007, at 10:47 AM, Alexandre Quessy wrote: I didn't like much using Firewire (ieee1394) under GNU/Linux, since the driver is pretty slow. As I understand it, if you are using DV codec with firewire you are going to get several frames delay (on any OS) - I guess this system is

Re: [PD] bit operations on samples

2007-11-16 Thread hard off
roman, that's awesome. i'll try to use this to add markers to sound files in my sound editor. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] unit impulse without [dirac~]

2007-11-16 Thread Andy Farnell
Okay, a sample delay and [vline~] , that's one very good way, thanks a lot. I like the abs name too. Any others? Must be vanilla only so you can't use [z] all best, Andy On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:35:50 +0200 U__ur Güney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # Hi Andy, # There is a abstraction citpit I

Re: [PD] Audio drops when drawing tables/ non selectable structure

2007-11-16 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi Gilberto: the two main things that cause audio dropouts in PD besides CPU overload are: 1) Writing to visible tables/arrays 2) Hard drive access These problems have to do with the graphics engine and threading protocol of (Miller's) PD, and there's not much you can do to your computer to

Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended and Pd-0.39.3-extended on 10.5 Leopard

2007-11-16 Thread zmoelnig
Quoting Luiz Naveda [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This can be a really idiot question, but I was reading the comment abut Miller's version and thinking, why PD-extended is not a really an extension of PD? Like a module? Why it must be a complete package? for the most part, pd-extended _is_ a

Re: [PD] unit impulse without [dirac~]

2007-11-16 Thread Andy Farnell
Nice one. Okay, one for the mathematicians, as Ugur mentioned the proper name this is Kronecker Delta. Is it correct to say that the Dirac impulse preserves energy, as it tends towards zero time length the amplitude goes to infinity and if we squashed its amplitude to zero it would be

Re: [PD] tabread4~~

2007-11-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Ypatios Grigoriadis wrote: If i may now borrow the theory and terminus Arrow of time by Arthur Eddington, according to which time is the fourth dimension in space, Afaik, Arthur Eddington made the first English translation of Einstein. This is probably what got him in

Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended and Pd-0.39.3-extended on 10.5 Leopard

2007-11-16 Thread Luiz Naveda
Hello, 8-( Leopard updated. Pd still crashing... This can be a really idiot question, but I was reading the comment abut Miller's version and thinking, why PD-extended is not a really an extension of PD? Like a module? Why it must be a complete package? If it is only the help integration, why

Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended and Pd-0.39.3-extended on 10.5 Leopard

2007-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Miller's Pd doesn't have the Help menu enhancements, and it uses the built-in version of Tcl/Tk, which is quite a bit slower. .hc On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:09 PM, marius schebella wrote: that sounds promising. I don't want to say this loud, but I had to switch to max to do some work that

Re: [PD] pd-extended install gutsy ubuntu libquicktime0 libflac7

2007-11-16 Thread Pagano, Patrick
this is very nice hans made a new gibbon machine with these jay's repos were not clicking and we have a show this mon/tue fwiw, had to install libjasper.107 and symmlink it to fix pidip fully pdp2gem rules btw... how about re-adding pdp_ieee1394? ASIDE:: is there a way to use coriander w/ pd?

Re: [PD] Fwd: Bug entering '{' characters WAS: who is using [entry]?

2007-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:01 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: yeah, that's a known bug throughout Pd. I wonder if you send {} whether that works? Is it only an unmatched { that causes the problem? I suppose the text widget should filter those out

Re: [PD] unit impulse without [dirac~]

2007-11-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
there is actually no need at all for doing a samplewise delay with [z~], since you can schedule everything (also the startpoint) with [vline~]. you really only need a [vline~]. i just haven't time to make an example patch, but i can make one in a few hours, if there is still need for it. roman

Re: [PD] unit impulse without [dirac~]

2007-11-16 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: Okay, a sample delay and [vline~] , that's one very good way, thanks a lot. I like the abs name too. Any others? Must be vanilla only so you can't use [z] Attached is another one. The idea is to play a [table] with an impulse stored.

Re: [PD] unit impulse without [dirac~]

2007-11-16 Thread Andy Farnell
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:08:42 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _analog_ Of course!, I understand. Thanks Iohans. -- Use the source ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended and Pd-0.39.3-extended on 10.5 Leopard

2007-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am in the process of upgrading the Tcl/Tk version for the nightly builds. I should have it done today, so tomorrow's build should include it. The new version of Tcl/Tk is supposed to address some of these crashes (I think they are related to Apple changing somethings in the push to

Re: [PD] bit operations on samples ~ ... couldn't create

2007-11-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 10:41 -0500, patrick wrote: i would like to test it out, but: ~ 0.5 ... couldn't create actually, this object is not important at all. i just put it there to illustrate that the added signal should only contain 0 and 1. skip this object, if your signal is already

Re: [PD] bit operations on samples ~ ... couldn't create

2007-11-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 10:41 -0500, patrick wrote: i would like to test it out, but: ~ 0.5 ... couldn't create hm... didn't i just ask you yesterday, if you could fix this problem and you said: 'yeah, by changing pd-extended version' ? if this bug is still there, report it to the bug

Re: [PD] Fwd: Bug entering '{' characters WAS: who is using [entry]?

2007-11-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: yeah, that's a known bug throughout Pd. I wonder if you send {} whether that works? Is it only an unmatched { that causes the problem? I suppose the text widget should filter those out then. If you backslash them then Tcl will recognise

Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended and Pd-0.39.3-extended on 10.5 Leopard

2007-11-16 Thread marius schebella
yes, there is a list of bugs with 10.5. some of them are only related to pd-extenden, but not to the pd version that can be downloaded from miller's page. for example the help menu crash and the crash on save are only related to pd-extended. if you want to go with that inbetween... marius.

Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended and Pd-0.39.3-extended on 10.5 Leopard

2007-11-16 Thread marius schebella
that sounds promising. I don't want to say this loud, but I had to switch to max to do some work that needs to get done immediately. (the problem is more related to Gem) at least I will be able to write good documentation about the differences betw. gem/jitter pd/max and maybe think about

Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended and Pd-0.39.3-extended on 10.5 Leopard

2007-11-16 Thread bsoisoi
Hans et al., Great! Ping me (or the board) when the new enhancements are built, and I'll test it out for you. Thanks a bunch, ~Brandon On Friday, November 16, 2007, at 03:46PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Miller's Pd doesn't have the Help menu enhancements, and it uses

Re: [PD] Audio drops when drawing tables/ non selectable structure

2007-11-16 Thread hard off
yeah, always use [table] instead of a graphical array whenever possible. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] [pd] upsampled readsf~

2007-11-16 Thread zmoelnig
Quoting Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED]: afaik, [readsf~] is 'stupid' and will always read in the environment's sampling rate. in order to read faster, put [readsf~] in a subpatch together with a [block~ 1 1 64], so that it reads 64 times quicker than at standard sampling rate. i suggest to

Re: [PD] unit impulse without [dirac~]

2007-11-16 Thread zmoelnig
Quoting Andy Farnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In which case Dirac impulses are theoretical and not practical digital signals? dirac impulses are _theoretical_ _analog_ signals. fmgasd. IOhannes This message was sent using IMP,

[PD] Moveable Type - powered by Pd

2007-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
If any of you happens to be in New York City, drop by the lobby of the new New York Times building. It's open to the public, and there is a great installation there. The sound is all powered by Pd and the text handling and sequencing was done with Python.

Re: [PD] tabread4~~

2007-11-16 Thread Patrice Colet
Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Ypatios Grigoriadis wrote: If i may now borrow the theory and terminus Arrow of time by Arthur Eddington, according to which time is the fourth dimension in space, Afaik, Arthur Eddington made the first English translation of Einstein.

Re: [PD] tabread4~~

2007-11-16 Thread Patrice Colet
Patrice Colet a écrit : Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Ypatios Grigoriadis wrote: If i may now borrow the theory and terminus Arrow of time by Arthur Eddington, according to which time is the fourth dimension in space, Afaik, Arthur Eddington made the first English

Re: [PD] unit impulse without [dirac~]

2007-11-16 Thread Uğur Güney
# What is preserved is the area under the function, it is equal to one (its just 1, with no physical dimensions like energy. So, if x axis has the dimensions of L(ength), y-axis has the dimension of 1/L). When you let the bottom side's length of a triangle shaped function to go to zero, for

Re: [PD] tabread4~~

2007-11-16 Thread Charles Henry
reprise, beat and such, are just larger scale splittings of the time dimension in the same way that frequency separates from time. Reprises and beats and rhythms are full of periodic patterns, just like the sound waves themselves, but at a different scale, which doesn't make the physical ear

Re: [PD] Way of getting CPU load in PD

2007-11-16 Thread Jaime Oliver
Check in the pd menu media/load meter J On 11/15/07, B. Bogart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks all for the feedback, Perhaps I'll look into making a set of abstractions for such thing, parsing top output in PD (as not to depend on pyx) does not seem all that fun though. I think I found

Re: [PD] tabread4~~

2007-11-16 Thread Uğur Güney
On Nov 17, 2007 3:16 AM, Charles Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We structure events in music as a function of time. f: R (time) - (set of possible sound events) The topology in this case is clear. It's a line, and music is a function mapping 1-D into the space of all possible sounds. we

Re: [PD] Pd + asterisk?

2007-11-16 Thread PSPunch
I've done this with Asterisk 1.2 About an year ago I was hyped by how easily voice menus could be created using Asterisk. Mainly letting voice menus interact with PD and I didn't do much audio work. Asterisk has a platform to easily integrate scripts called AGI. Any language which returns

Re: [PD] [pd] upsampled readsf~

2007-11-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 21:14 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED]: afaik, [readsf~] is 'stupid' and will always read in the environment's sampling rate. in order to read faster, put [readsf~] in a subpatch together with a [block~ 1 1 64], so that it reads

Re: [PD] pd-extended install gutsy ubuntu libquicktime0 libflac7

2007-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
pdp_ieee1394 is based on Quicktime, so it's Mac OS X only. pdp_v4l should handle firewire on GNU/Linux. .hc On Nov 16, 2007, at 3:37 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: this is very nice hans made a new gibbon machine with these jay's repos were not clicking and we have a show this mon/tue fwiw,