Re: [PD] Fwd: Simple tutorial on using Lua with PD

2008-03-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Note: the next version of pdlua will change the filename extensions from .lua to .pdlua and .luax to .pdluax to avoid polluting Lua's namespace with the names of Pd objects written in Lua. svn co https://devel.goto10.org/svn/maximus/pdlua pdlua So, is your

Re: [PD] Google SoC: call for mentors and project ideas

2008-03-04 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! I'd like to apply for some Mentos. I like mixed fruit or grape. As for Pd, I can't think of something major enough to call for Google SoC, but I'll keep thinking. I think the projects should not be too big. This is maybe something we can learn from last year. It would be nice to have

Re: [PD] Google SoC: call for mentors and project ideas

2008-03-04 Thread Andy Farnell
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 22:25:02 -0500 Chris McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:30:20 +0100 Georg Holzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We discussed at the LAC that we would like to apply again this year for google's summer of code project, which is about to start today

Re: [PD] invisible py/pyext objects in windows XP (again)

2008-03-04 Thread marius schebella
hi matteo, there are even newer versions at http://g.org/ext/beta marius. matteo sisti sette wrote: Hi, I downloaded the latest version of pyext precompiled for windows XP from http://g.org/ext/py/ and python 2.4.4 from its official site. Installed everything, and when I open any

[PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread marius schebella
hi, I am reading an old interview with james moorer (with curtis roads in CMJ/6 1982). one funny thing is that he says, 'software synthesis is either dead or dying[...] I am hoping it's demise will be quick and relatively painless.' in return he predicted all computation being done on special

Re: [PD] pd-ext paths, libs and help

2008-03-04 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! let's say I want to use OSCroute... I put an object [import oscx]. but OSCroute ... couldn't create only oscx/OSCroute works, and then I can also use OSCroute. I can import OSCroute, but only after I imported oscx. Okay, which pd-extended version do you use ? I use the autobuild Pd

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread marius schebella
No, I missed LAC, but it is not surprising that people research in that direction. I was looking through some papers yesterday, but not the one from jürgen, will catch up on that. marius. Andrée Préfontaine wrote: Le 08-03-04 à 11:14, marius schebella a écrit : hi, I am reading an old

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread bsoisoi
Along with the question posed by Marius, how does PD currently scale on SMP systems with 2, 4, or 8 cores? Cheers, ~Brandon On Mar 4, 2008, at 11:39 AM, marius schebella wrote: No, I missed LAC, but it is not surprising that people research in that direction. I was looking through some

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread marius schebella
pd is only using one of 2, 4 or 8. is that what your question was? marius. bsoisoi wrote: Along with the question posed by Marius, how does PD currently scale on SMP systems with 2, 4, or 8 cores? Cheers, ~Brandon On Mar 4, 2008, at 11:39 AM, marius schebella wrote: No, I missed

[PD] LAC2008 in German radio

2008-03-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, just discovered two pieces that were broadcasted about the LAC2008 on Deutschlandfunk: Linux Audio Conference Sendezeit: 03.03.2008 15:11 Autor: Steins, Hubert Programm: Deutschlandfunk Sendung: Corso Länge: 05:17 Minuten

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
marius schebella wrote: pd is only using one of 2, 4 or 8. is that what your question was? marius. well, it uses 2, as Pd is really 2 applications (pd-gui and pd-core); not big gains however, due to the bad separation between pd-gui and pd-core. dfamdr IOhannes

[PD] Wii remote controller and Mac OS X

2008-03-04 Thread Stefano Papetti
Hello everybody, when I last checked the mailing list (about 1 year ago...) I remember there was a wiiremote external by Hans-Christoph Steiner. However at that time I couldn't get it to work. Currently, the latest revision from sourceforge

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread Phil Stone
It is my impression, at least, that on my MacBookPro, the audio engine is running on one core, while the graphics run on the other. I could be wrong about this, but I've never noticed a degradation of audio due to graphics in my setup, and assumed that this was the reason. Obviously, this is

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread marius schebella
yes, you're right. sorry, I was not thinking of the gui when I posted my reply, but of course that is an important aspect. marius. Phil Stone wrote: It is my impression, at least, that on my MacBookPro, the audio engine is running on one core, while the graphics run on the other. I could be

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread Andy Farnell
It's funny reading old predictions that didn't quite work out (yet). One nuclear power station supplying all the planet with 3 giant supercomputers (presumably running with less than 640k or RAM) managing all human problems while we live a life of leisure and swan about in our flying cars...

Re: [PD] Wii remote controller and Mac OS X

2008-03-04 Thread nils
This seems like it could be promising http://www.osculator.net/wiki/ Not an external for pd, but does send over osc so could use the osc libraries in pd to digest. I havnt' tried it yet so let me know if you get it to work. Nils Stefano Papetti wrote: Hello everybody, when I last checked

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Martin Peach wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: marius schebella wrote: pd is only using one of 2, 4 or 8. is that what your question was? marius. well, it uses 2, as Pd is really 2 applications (pd-gui and pd-core); not big gains however, due to the bad separation between pd-gui and

[PD] Pd performance practice

2008-03-04 Thread Oded Ben-Tal
Dear all, A while ago I was trying to find 'good houskeeping tips' for using Pd in performance and couldn't find any (what to avoid, how to organize patches, etc.). does anyone know of something like this? If not where would be a good place to put such a resource? I presume that the collective

Re: [PD] Wii remote controller and Mac OS X

2008-03-04 Thread Yvan Vander Sanden
Quoting Stefano Papetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello everybody, when I last checked the mailing list (about 1 year ago...) I remember there was a wiiremote external by Hans-Christoph Steiner. However at that time I couldn't get it to work. Currently, the latest revision from sourceforge

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread Martin Peach
sched_setaffinity pthread_setaffinity_np (NPTL-pthreads) and i just found a linux-journal article: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6799 OK, thanks. Here's one about the MS version: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms684251(VS.85).aspx It mentions the function

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread Martin Peach
But on the Mac, it's not so hopeful: Mac OS X does not export interfaces that identify processors or control thread placement—explicit thread to processor binding is not supported. Instead, the kernel manages all thread placement. Applications expect that the scheduler will, under most

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread marius schebella
isn't the problem of pd right now, that the audio chain can't be chopped into different threads? if the pd audio chain would support threads for every object, would it be as easy as to add a (or some) line(s) of code for every dsp object? is it correct that some soundcards compute part of the

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread Brandon Zeeb
More specifically, my question is: How does PD's performance scale when the number of available processing units increases from 2 to 4 and to 8 cores? Is the main engine written in such a way as to take advantage of this, or is it primarily a single-threaded? Possible scenarios could be:

Re: [PD] Improved bug report: [expr] on Windows 2000 (XP non-professional)

2008-03-04 Thread Miller Puckette
I haven't been able to figure out how to make windows-style makefiles call each other, so I have a batch file, 'build' that I call from the source directory, to call the other makefiles in other directories. (Of course, I haven't even tried again since 1999 or so to figure this out and it's

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Brandon Zeeb wrote: More specifically, my question is: How does PD's performance scale when the number of available processing units increases from 2 to 4 and to 8 cores? Is the main engine written in such a way as to take advantage of this, or is it primarily a single-threaded?

[PD] Wii remote controller and MAC O SX

2008-03-04 Thread Simon Kilshaw
I've been using DarwiimoteOSC talking to OSC in PD. If you prefer midi, WiiToMidi works a treat. Kilshaw~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 3/4/2008 7:24 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: PD-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 16 Send PD-list

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread Brandon Zeeb
Perfect, thanks a bunch Claude. So, back to the first message from Marius, what are we going to do about this? I regret that I have not yet mastered parallel programming, but would be game to help out in any way possible (even QA/testing if need be). ~Brandon On Mar 4, 2008, at 2:38 PM,

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
marius schebella wrote: isn't the problem of pd right now, that the audio chain can't be chopped into different threads? if the pd audio chain would support threads for every object, would it be as easy as to add a (or some) line(s) of code for every dsp object? well, you wouldn't want to

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2008-03-04 Thread marius schebella
fgmadsrö IOhannes typo, or what, going creative? ö ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] Lua and PD

2008-03-04 Thread Mike McGonagle
Wow Claude, last night I rewrote several of my old externals that were originally in C, in Lua last night... And they required about 1/4 of the code that C requires. I am pretty much sold on using Lua now... I guess one of the things that seemed to scream out at me was How would Lua and PD work

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: isn't the problem of pd right now, that the audio chain can't be chopped into different threads? if the pd audio chain would support threads for every object, would it be as easy as to add a (or some) line(s) of code for every

Re: [PD] Lua and PD

2008-03-04 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Mike McGonagle wrote: Wow Claude, last night I rewrote several of my old externals that were originally in C, in Lua last night... And they required about 1/4 of the code that C requires. I am pretty much sold on using Lua now... Cool :-) I guess one of the things that seemed to scream out

Re: [PD] pd-ext paths, libs and help

2008-03-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 12:09 -0500, marius schebella wrote: declare -path oscx is also doing nothing. oh, wait! as written in the declare-help.pd, -path is relative to pd, so you have to use: [declare -path oscx] (assuming the folder is pd-path/extra/oscx) roman

Re: [PD] Pduino and the AD5206 digital potentiometer

2008-03-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
It would be possible to add support to Firmata for this, but it's not currently there. I don't have any of these chips, any volunteers? Patches welcome :D .hc On Feb 26, 2008, at 8:54 AM, nick burge wrote: Dear PD list. I would like to be able to control the AD5206 chip (a 6 channel

Re: [PD] Pd performance practice

2008-03-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 10:52 -0800, Oded Ben-Tal wrote: Dear all, A while ago I was trying to find 'good houskeeping tips' for using Pd in performance and couldn't find any (what to avoid, how to organize patches, etc.). does anyone know of something like this? If not where would be a good

Re: [PD] parallel processing

2008-03-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 19:38 +, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Brandon Zeeb wrote: More specifically, my question is: How does PD's performance scale when the number of available processing units increases from 2 to 4 and to 8 cores? Is the main engine written in such a way as to

Re: [PD] A couple new list-abs

2008-03-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all and frank i just made another abstraction today, which might be useful for others as well. i called it [list-match]. it finds a given sequence of numbers in a number stream and outputs a bang on a match. http://romanhaefeli.net/software/pd/list-match.tar.gz however, i am not quite sure,

Re: [PD] Improved bug report: [expr] on Windows 2000 (XP non-professional)

2008-03-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
One way to figure this out is switch over to building Pd with MinGW. :) Then we can use the same makefiles and configure.in on all platforms. I just streamlined the MinGW setup process by checking things into SVN and writing a script which builds and installed everything needed. Then

Re: [PD] Improved bug report: [expr] on Windows 2000 (XP non-professional)

2008-03-04 Thread Miller Puckette
OK, re-download it and you should get expr OK, also all the others in pd/extra EXCEPT bonk~ which turns out not to compile on the version of VC I'm using (so will have to update the source and make a new version number for that one). Thanks for flagging that... my bad. M On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at