Re: [PD] processing images with GEM?
matteo: try this: http://hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv palmieri 2008/1/21 IOhannes m zmoelnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Derek Holzer wrote: >> Hi IOhannes, >> >> IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >> >>> the problem is, that some pix-sources (platform dependent!) supply the >>> images with (0/0) in the upper-left corner, whereas others (0/0) is >>> the lower-left corner (like openGL expects it). >> >> Would be good to know which platforms do it right, and which ones wrong. > > > it's not a matter of "right" and "wrong". > > mathematicians tend to put the origin in the lower-left corner (like a > coordinate system) > computer-graphics prefer the upper-left corner (back in the old days, > the cursor would appear in the 1st line on the screen) > > openGL has been designed by mathematicians. > tcl/tk comes from the computer geeks... > > btw, this fuzz is the reason why the tables in Pd are never oriented the > right way... > > > mgfa.dr > IOhannes > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
hey. luke, ok, the documentation here is very useful and well-done but, as usual, as almost always, it's not a technical problem really here, it is how naby different versions of pd are we going to produce now? i'm glad i can make my branch on subversion but i feel like a monkey with my tribe oh oh i did a quote there! and then subversion has nothing to do with politics if it is to divide people oh oh i did a quote and fuck if i have to commit to ten branches and tribes no this is not a quote ok, see ya, sevy Luke Iannini wrote: Yo yves, There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll have to merge over any changes. I wrote a guide here if you need it http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto Cheers Luke On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Pd]: TR909 emulation
> 2) How did you exported the processing interface > in a single executable? This is always possible. Processing runs on Java, and it can export complete compiled binaries through a simple click of the menu. k ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] kiosk patch
hi, I wanted to test the kiosk.diff patch from sourceforge. I applied the patch and then compiled pd-0.40-3. but when I start Pd I don't see a big difference. Isn't that supposed to run without the pd window popping up and keyboard shortcuts disabled? has anybody ever tested that on mac osx? I am running 10.5.3 now. did I do something wrong? thanks, marius. Btw, I got that error again: cc -g -O2 -DPD -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -DDL_OPEN -DMACOSX -DUNISTD -I/usr/X11R6/include-I../portaudio/pa_common -I../portaudio/pablio -I../portmidi/pm_common -I../portmidi/pm_mac-I../portmidi/porttime -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO -DPA19 -DPA_USE_COREAUDIO -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -arch i386 -arch ppc -Wno-error -O2 -o ../bin/pd-watchdog s_watchdog.c ld: library not found for -lcrt1.10.5.o collect2: ld returned 1 exit status ld: library not found for -lcrt1.10.5.o collect2: ld returned 1 exit status lipo: can't open input file: /var/folders/TH/THjm5UAnEZSSB-y6nQY-6TI/-Tmp-//cczSXtMQ.out (No such file or directory) make: *** [../bin/pd-watchdog] Error 1 but I fixed it by adding -mmacosx-version-min=10.4 to the CFLAGS in the makefile. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
do u have some page to bug report, or can i do it in the list? im having troubles with a lot of objects. thx palm 2008/6/4 palmieri, ricardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > oh, sorry... > > 3DP didnt work in my pbg4 macosx4.11. > > any tip? > > palm > > 2008/6/4 Luke Iannini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Yo yves, >> There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll >> have to merge over any changes. >> I wrote a guide here if you need it >> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto >> >> Cheers >> Luke >> >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> ola, >>> >>> sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 >>> when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? >>> >> >>> isn't it produced from the trunk ? >>> this is somewhat important for us >>> to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 >>> for cameras >>> >>> thx, >>> sevy >>> >>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > > > -- > ricardo palmieri > # 1185833173 > [palm.estudiolivre.org] > [skype:palmieriricardo] > [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [linux user # 392484] > -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
oh, sorry... 3DP didnt work in my pbg4 macosx4.11. any tip? palm 2008/6/4 Luke Iannini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Yo yves, > There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll > have to merge over any changes. > I wrote a guide here if you need it > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto > > Cheers > Luke > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> ola, >> >> sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 >> when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? >> > >> isn't it produced from the trunk ? >> this is somewhat important for us >> to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 >> for cameras >> >> thx, >> sevy >> >> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and >>> user experience much more fluid and easy. >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [Pd]: TR909 emulation
Hi Raul, very, very interesting application, a nice example of communication between processing and Pd worlds. I think I'll learn a lot from your patch about Pd<->Processing communication (and processing programming too), so first of all thanks for sharing it! I've few questions/comments: 1) GUI is too large for my poor 15 inches monitor :-( 2) How did you exported the processing interface in a single executable? 3) The strategy of providing a full Pd Vanilla distribution (plus the necessary libraries - OSC,..) plus an embedded processing executable (and jar clesses) is interesting. Also interesting hiding the Pd with -nogui option, the feeling is exactly to have a standalone instrument... Cheers, AlbertoZ --- http://puredata.org/Members/AlbertoZ http://alberto.zin.googlepages.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Yo yves, There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll have to merge over any changes. I wrote a guide here if you need it http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto Cheers Luke On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ola, > > sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 > when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? > > isn't it produced from the trunk ? > this is somewhat important for us > to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 > for cameras > > thx, > sevy > > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and >> user experience much more fluid and easy. >> >> > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
hi fellows.. first, i loved the new interface for mac osx. here, in my powerbook g4 OSX.4.11, everything works fine. for now i have three questions: - is very hard to compile the [pix_artoolkit] with artoolkit support? - the [pix_opencv_series] will be great, but is the trouble the opencv dependencies, or have some quick solution to compile it inside the packet? - are u thinking in compile the gridflow to the packet, or its a far dream? ;) anyway, congratulations and thanks a lot for once more great packet hans! palm 2008/6/4 ydegoyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > ola, > > sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 > when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? > > isn't it produced from the trunk ? > this is somewhat important for us > to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 > for cameras > > thx, > sevy > > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and >> user experience much more fluid and easy. >> >> > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OSX Intel: status of M-Audio / MOTU multichannel in/out, support?
Ok, Damian, in that case, here's the long, sad story: I bought a firewire 410 three years ago based on my happiness with a m-audio mobilepre usb, and my need for more ins and outs. First disappointment was, you can't hot plug it. It must be plugged in at boot time, or it might fry your firewire. I learned to live with that, and used it with my G4 iBook on osx 10.3 and 10.4 with Pd and jack and core audio in various combinations, and it usually worked fine, and was my main interface for a couple years. Then I needed to run a patch in Max/MSP runtime, and it could not find the 410. So I updated the driver. The driver for osx 10.4.11 is _still_ in beta. Hmm. Then the firmware wouldn't upload, so it wouldn't work in Pd or anything else. So I downgraded, no luck. I eventually did a clean install of 10.4 and progressively tried each os update with it's respective driver. No luck. Then my iBook wouldn't boot, then would boot sometimes and then crash. Good thing I had just made a back up! Replaced the HD (I'm way OT now!) Same behavior. Was the problem a flaky iBook all along? Well, I have another G4 iBook, and I tested with that, and my wife has a MacBook, no luck there either. Maybe my 410 is just broken. I know there have been some driver issues, and a long wait for a 10.5 driver. There is no Linux support! I'd like to test it on a windows machine to see if it works there. SO, to speak on-topic, it works fine with Pd, if it works at all and doesn't fry your iBook! ;) I would just avoid it. I bought a edirol fa-101, which "just works" with osx and doesn't use a driver. Hot pluggable too. Has more ins. It is made of metal. Fully supported on linux (according to the freebob folks, I haven't tried it there yet.) And it works on the Max/MSP patch that got me started down this road. It did not resurrect my iBook, (but it can cure lepers ;)) your, Collin Damian Stewart wrote: > Collin Oldham wrote: >> are you looking for a firewire interface? I have a long sad story >> about a m-audio firewire 410, which I will otherwise spare you. I'm >> now using an edirol fa-101, so far happily. > > Hi Colin, > > well, the situation with me is, i'm doing audio for a friend's school > project, and we need some way of doing multi-channel audio - the > proposal is that she buys the audio interface and i buy it off her at > some stage in the future (when i have some cash). > > we're actually looking at an m-audio firewire card, because it's > reasonably cheap and comes recommended. are you saying the M-audio > doesn't play nice with Pd? or does the sadness come from something else? > > thanks > d > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Gem-0.91.0 released
On 04/06/2008, at 8.35, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Steffen Juul wrote: On 02/06/2008, at 14.25, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: if you (or anybody else) finds more bugs till tomorrow Has something happened to [pix_data] since GEM: ver: 0.91-cvs GEM: compiled: May 21 2008 ? (I can't see anything in the Changelog.) I have a patch that uses that where the output is very different between the two versions. yes, [pix_data] is believed to be kind of fixed...at least it used to be. ah, looking at your compile date, it might indeed be that it was broken again when fixing [pix_mask] and so on... still, it would be nice if you could elaborate on the differences... Sure. I should have supplied that from the start. Attached. colortest.pd Description: Binary data <>___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OSX Intel: status of M-Audio / MOTU multichannel in/out, support?
Collin Oldham wrote: > are you looking for a firewire interface? I have a long sad story about > a m-audio firewire 410, which I will otherwise spare you. I'm now using > an edirol fa-101, so far happily. Hi Colin, well, the situation with me is, i'm doing audio for a friend's school project, and we need some way of doing multi-channel audio - the proposal is that she buys the audio interface and i buy it off her at some stage in the future (when i have some cash). we're actually looking at an m-audio firewire card, because it's reasonably cheap and comes recommended. are you saying the M-audio doesn't play nice with Pd? or does the sadness come from something else? thanks d -- damian stewart | +31 6 5902 5782 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] frey | live art with machines | http://www.frey.co.nz ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and > user experience much more fluid and easy. > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
i still get error messages when loading the zexy [>~] [<~ ] objects. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Gem-0.91.0 released
Also, pix_movie can't find it's help patch again. .hc On Jun 3, 2008, at 1:51 PM, altern wrote: > when would this be included in the night builds of Pd extended? or > is it > already there? > > enrike > > IOhannes m zmoelnig(e)k dio: >> finally i have decided to release Gem-0.91 codename 'tigital'. >> >> downloads (and release notes) are available via the official homepage >> http://gem.iem.at and via sourceforge >> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php? >> group_id=64325&package_id=61445&release_id=603766 >> >> >> happy patching >> >> mfgas.dr >> IOhannes >> >> ___ >> PD-announce mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce >> >> ___ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list >> > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
this is great hans! Hans-Christoph Steiner(e)k dio: > For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and > user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look > that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots > of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. > There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is > getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing > now but will come later) > > http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html > > Here is a partial changelog: > > - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower > on machines < 1 GHz) > > - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. > GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd > Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd > Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ > Application Data/Pd > > - lots of standard key bindings added: > Enter/Return for OK > Escape for Cancel > Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows > on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows > on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows > Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window > Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window > Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console > Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser > > - you can now use "~" in all paths to mean home folder, and on > Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths > > - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms > > - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs > to be done before there namespace support is complete > > - "File -> Save As" defaults to the Home folder (~/) > > - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console > > - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X > > KNOWN BUGS > > - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs > > - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup > preferences > > - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd > > - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying > to load it > > > .hc > > > > > I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and > during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man > for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General > Smedley Butler > > > > ___ > Pd-announce mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines < 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use "~" in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - "File -> Save As" defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] NEW ITALIAN FORUM ABOUT PURE DATA
Excellent, I am glad to see Pd spreading beyond the English speaking world. You should add this list to the Mailing List page on puredata.info: http://puredata.info/community/lists .hc On Jun 3, 2008, at 4:56 AM, Husk 00 wrote: Hi, that's good! you know there is an italian puredata mailing list from more than 1 year. You can read it at https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/puredata partecipate :) Husk On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:17 PM, rajan craveri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello to everyone, today open the italian Forum about Pure Data, the link is: http://www.puredata.it Hope to see you there bye Rajan ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list All information should be free. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] NEW ITALIAN FORUM ABOUT PURE DATA
Very cool, and I like the logo a lot! .hc On Jun 2, 2008, at 7:17 PM, rajan craveri wrote: > Hello to everyone, > today open the italian Forum about Pure Data, > the link is: > http://www.puredata.it > > Hope to see you there > bye > > Rajan > > > > ___ > Pd-announce mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
