[PD] pd MTL tarball/zip?
i can't seem to download the pdmtl tarball from http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions/Installation ?? -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] video processing removing feedback
Hi, I can only second what damien already said. you have to use an infrared light source. there are cheap infrared LED arrays that you can use. the camera setting that reads only the infrared light is called nightshot and you will get best results if you find a camera that has a switch like that. then you will get a b/w image, and since the projector does not cast infrared light, the projection image is invisible to the nightshot camera. marius. Damian Stewart wrote: Joseph Barrows wrote: hi all, I would like some advice, i wish to track objects using a video camera and pd/gem (easy enough) but I would then like to project video into that same space, but avoid it interfering with the video object processing. is there some simple way to do: (live video) - (gem generated video) = video used for blob tracking ? (if there is some way to offload it to the gpu that would be good too) use infrared lighting and cameras. (this also gives you the advantage that you can flood the projection area with invisible infrared light, which is great for tracking, while keeping the 'real' visible lighting to a minimum). most security cameras based on CCDs already detect infrared. if you put a piece of exposed and developed camera print film (just ordinary film) between the lens and the CCD, this blocks visible but allows infrared light through. to make a super cheap infrared light from a theatre light or any incandescent light, put 2-3 layers of Congo Blue theatre lighting gel and one layer of Primary Red gel in front of the light. be careful, it gets very hot. d ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] hid - not recognising device
Hello, i am trying to make EU3C Gamepad MegaPlayer USB working, failing to open it with [hid] - error: [hid] open /dev/input/event5 failed. [linuxevent] shows some values in type, code and value outputs, which change when i send [start. dmesg tells me : input: 3Axes 8Keys Game Pad as /class/input/input5 input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Gamepad [3Axes 8Keys Game Pad] on usb-:00:1d.0-2 pd[9553]: segfault at bf570ff8 ip b7d26a8e sp bf570ffc error 6 in libc-2.7.so[b7cba000+155000] in lsusb it appears as : Bus 001 Device 004: ID 12bd:d02a calibrator works ok and shows that it is /dev/input/js0. what else should i check ? CtrlAltBack -- |||Ctrl + Alt + Back||| |||restart your view||| ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] product placements with pd
http://www.kreidler-net.de/productplacements-e.html qewl. he could give us his patch and we'd make the same.. ;) -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid - not recognising device
Hallo, Ctrl Alt Back hat gesagt: // Ctrl Alt Back wrote: i am trying to make EU3C Gamepad MegaPlayer USB working, failing to open it with [hid] - error: [hid] open /dev/input/event5 failed. [linuxevent] shows some values in type, code and value outputs, which change when i send [start. dmesg tells me : input: 3Axes 8Keys Game Pad as /class/input/input5 input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Gamepad [3Axes 8Keys Game Pad] on usb-:00:1d.0-2 pd[9553]: segfault at bf570ff8 ip b7d26a8e sp bf570ffc error 6 in libc-2.7.so[b7cba000+155000] in lsusb it appears as : Bus 001 Device 004: ID 12bd:d02a calibrator works ok and shows that it is /dev/input/js0. what else should i check ? Are the permissions on your device file okay so that you can access it? If you are in a hurry: I found that for gamepads the [joystick] external by J. Sarlo works flawlessly on Linux. hid introduced an annoying nameclash to [joystick] with the abstraction joystick.pd, so make sure you remove that from your path if you want to use J. Sarlo's work instead. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd MTL tarball/zip?
hi, yeah the server is down. but goto10 is not (cheers to goto10). as we add stuff from time to time (welcome to anyone who wants to contribute to pdmtl abstractions) it's a good idea to use the svn like this. svn co https://devel.goto10.org/svn/pdmtl/trunk/pdmtl pdmtl and then, when you feel for it do: svn up (in pdmtl) for me opening 1.browser.pd when loading pd is a bless (saving time): pd -open /home/you/pd/pdmtl/1.browser.pd also be sure to open at least the first time 0.info.pd - you will see if you are missing externals. pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd MTL tarball/zip?
thanks for that. that's the first time i've used svn. and it downloaded everything for me in a few seconds. i use xp for pure data and xubuntu for the net so it was quite a breeze getting the stuff. i'll look forward getting stuck into pdmtl. i've been using vanilla with iemlib thus far but this may make me switch to a more external based pd system. thanks again. 2008/8/20 patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi, yeah the server is down. but goto10 is not (cheers to goto10). as we add stuff from time to time (welcome to anyone who wants to contribute to pdmtl abstractions) it's a good idea to use the svn like this. svn co https://devel.goto10.org/svn/pdmtl/trunk/pdmtl pdmtl and then, when you feel for it do: svn up (in pdmtl) for me opening 1.browser.pd when loading pd is a bless (saving time): pd -open /home/you/pd/pdmtl/1.browser.pd also be sure to open at least the first time 0.info.pd - you will see if you are missing externals. pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] product placements with pd
I think Ligeti did it already with 0'00 (not to be confused with the Cage piece of the same name). Depends on how you feel about Zeno's paradoxes. --Stefan On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:39 PM, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pit klong wrote: http://www.kreidler-net.de/productplacements-e.html qewl. he could give us his patch and we'd make the same.. ;) in theory there are only 65536 different possibilites for amplitudes of one sample, so if you register 65536 pieces of music, each 1 sample long, then you you should be able to claim copyright from everyone who's music is based on amplitudes. maybe you can also register one sample of 0, then you could even make money from people who don't make music. just imagine: you can claim copyright for every sample of every piece of music. marius. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] send -rt snapshot~ to -nrt
talking about it on #dataflow, patko and claudiusmaximus agree on using udp. i will use mrpeach/net external for this. pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [ot] managing distributed development
Hi all, while i'm in Boston i just had dinner with a well known researcher in fields of user/distributed innovation and communities. One of the topics of conversation was whether it would be possible to design management systems for distributed development (like sourceforge) in a way that _all_ management tasks are taken away from the responsibility of individual persons but rather handled in a quasi-automatic (community-governed by polls etc.) manner. From my experience with open source development i was very sceptic but haven't yet really come up with a _principal_ reason why this would be impossible. My arguments have been more on the side of actual feasibility because of the development costs of such a management tool to deal with every conceivable subtlety and dependency in the process of development and packaging. From a theoretical viewpoint it would though be interesting if there are more principal reasons why this could be impossible. Is the fact that the development of the tool can never come to an end such a principal reason? Any other thoughts? thanks and all the best, gr~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [ot] managing distributed development
Hi Andy, many thanks for your input! You could also look at it another way. Why do it? Collaborative software development is a human activity. What are the problems with humans you're trying to 'solve'? Actually it's not me who is trying to solve these problems. I tend to think it's impossible right from the start. But obviously management tasks are not the most popular ones and some community members might not always be happy with the work of some manager - that's why it could in principal make sense to automate/democratize such tasks. gr~~~ -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [ot] managing distributed development
I think methods of development (and evolution) have not changed during the last 4 billion years. how we view them and think about them has changed. the question for me is, why is it so much more important today to point out that development is never done by one single individuum but is a process that includes a lot of people adding and evaluating thousands of tiny and comprehensive steps? to be honest, I think that we (the first world colonialists) have a growing fear that we will not survive on this planet without the help of the rest of the world. uptight as we are, we are now trying to allow everyone to take part in development, whereas in reality we are trying to make everyone responsible for the problems of the world. but then, in practice it *is* the individual effort and progress that sums up development. and it's individuums who take responsibility. regarding Pd, managing resources could make things more efficient/faster/target oriented. and competition could also speed things up. but it could also lead to totally useless and prestigious attempts like me wanting to walk on the moon! marius. Thomas Grill wrote: Hi all, while i'm in Boston i just had dinner with a well known researcher in fields of user/distributed innovation and communities. One of the topics of conversation was whether it would be possible to design management systems for distributed development (like sourceforge) in a way that _all_ management tasks are taken away from the responsibility of individual persons but rather handled in a quasi-automatic (community-governed by polls etc.) manner. From my experience with open source development i was very sceptic but haven't yet really come up with a _principal_ reason why this would be impossible. My arguments have been more on the side of actual feasibility because of the development costs of such a management tool to deal with every conceivable subtlety and dependency in the process of development and packaging. From a theoretical viewpoint it would though be interesting if there are more principal reasons why this could be impossible. Is the fact that the development of the tool can never come to an end such a principal reason? Any other thoughts? thanks and all the best, gr~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [ot] managing distributed development
the question for me is, why is it so much more important today to point out that development is never done by one single individuum but is a process that includes a lot of people adding and evaluating thousands of tiny and comprehensive steps? While this seems to be common sense and only logical for us developers and users of open source software, it is not so much for economists and old-style companies producing traditional goods or services. I had to learn this (to my own surprise) when i got to know more people in this field. The researchers in fields of open and distributed innovation are very interested in the mechanisms of OS development and the incentives of the developers to transfer them to traditional markets. It makes little sense when i try to write about that, but more to read the original literature, e.g. the best-selling democratizing innovation ( http://web.mit.edu/evhippel/www/democ1.htm ). It might be interesting to know that the LEGO company of Denmark survived because of overcoming old marketing schemes and actively supporting user/open innovation strategies (with the LEGO mindstorm community). gr~~~ -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [ot] managing distributed development
actually i wanted to refer to the classic sources of innovation (also by von Hippel), as of 1988: http://web.mit.edu/evhippel/www/sources.htm gr~~~ -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [ot] managing distributed development
Thomas Grill wrote: the question for me is, why is it so much more important today to point out that development is never done by one single individuum but is a process that includes a lot of people adding and evaluating thousands of tiny and comprehensive steps? While this seems to be common sense and only logical for us developers and users of open source software, it is not so much for economists and old-style companies producing traditional goods or services. I had to learn this (to my own surprise) when i got to know more people in this field. The researchers in fields of open and distributed innovation are very interested in the mechanisms of OS development and the incentives of the developers to transfer them to traditional markets. It makes little sense when i try to write about that, but more to read the original literature, e.g. the best-selling democratizing innovation ( http://web.mit.edu/evhippel/www/democ1.htm ). It might be interesting to know that the LEGO company of Denmark survived because of overcoming old marketing schemes and actively supporting user/open innovation strategies (with the LEGO mindstorm community). somehow the Pd community is a premature ejaculation of next century's political and societal structure. marius. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Writing texture to different sides of cube in GEM
Hi there everyone, i have a question here. How can i write different images on every different sides of a cube in GEM? So that when i rotate a cube, i could see a certain image on a certain side. I know i should use [pix_image] and [pix_texture] but how can i achieve my goal? I kinda lost here. Many thanks for any suggestions. :-) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended help browser error
I am running the 8.5.x, and I had read about some issues with that. I was just curious that I have no issues with 0.41 vanilla. Thanks for your reply. -michael -- networking practice for sound environments :: http://nowhere.iamnobody.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
