Re: [PD] Chicago Patching Circle (Sunday, December 14th)

2009-01-11 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
I could still meet informally on the 18th. I'd also like to recommend a meet up location different than a bar, at least for future meetings. Rumble Arts Center, in Humbolt Park, offers affordable meeting space. I spoke with the person in charge and she said she usually they charge $50 to rent a

Re: [PD] converting from midi to frequency in just intonation

2009-01-11 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Amos Robinson hat gesagt: // Amos Robinson wrote: I was curious to play with just intonation earlier but couldn't find any easy way to calculate an frequency based on a midi note. (It's entirely possible that I just didn't look hard enough, though) So, here's a really simple and ugly

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Peter Plessas hat gesagt: // Peter Plessas wrote: i have a question regarding timing in Pd: I understand that messages to tilde objects just get passed to the DSP tree within DSP blocks. How about the reverse? Found out that snapshot~ is returning the last sample of the last

[PD] pd in hongkong?

2009-01-11 Thread Enrique Erne
hi list i'm going to hongkong and wondered if there are any pd user around. please drop me a line if you want to meet before new year :) cheers eni ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Peter Plessas
Hi all, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Peter Plessas hat gesagt: // Peter Plessas wrote: i have a question regarding timing in Pd: I understand that messages to tilde objects just get passed to the DSP tree within DSP blocks. How about the reverse? Found out that snapshot~ is

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 12:26 +0100, Peter Plessas wrote: Timing is a very interesting topic in pd (and with computers in general). When i try to measure the [realtime] of a [metro 4] object, i get: print: 11.351 print: 0.122 print: 0.11 print: 11.402 print: 0.088 print: 0.119 print:

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Peter Plessas
Thanks Roman, (see for comments below) Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 12:26 +0100, Peter Plessas wrote: Timing is a very interesting topic in pd (and with computers in general). When i try to measure the [realtime] of a [metro 4] object, i get: print: 11.351 print: 0.122

Re: [PD] Hiding bits of the subpatch

2009-01-11 Thread Chris McCormick
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 09:32:32PM -0600, Mike McGonagle wrote: One thing I noticed is that when you click to open and close these gadgets, it will leave the patch in a dirty state, and it will ask you if you want to save the patch before closing it. Yeah, that sucks for sure, I forgot all

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Peter Plessas
Hi again, Frank(ly), there is still something unclear to me. Please see below. Frank Barknecht wrote: In general, Pd has like to times: One is the time realm of clock-delayed messages, i.e. everything that originates in a clock objects like metro, delay, pipe, qlist, etc. Clock delayed

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 14:05 +0100, Peter Plessas wrote: Hi again, Frank(ly), there is still something unclear to me. Please see below. Frank Barknecht wrote: In general, Pd has like to times: One is the time realm of clock-delayed messages, i.e. everything that originates in a clock

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Peter Plessas
Thanks for the discussion Roman, see below Roman Haefeli wrote: while not being 100% sure, what frank meant with the other timing domain, i guess, he meant all the messages, that are not initiated by [metro]/[delay]/[pipe] and co. this would be messages from: - the guis and clicks on

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Peter Plessas wrote: Thanks for the discussion Roman, see below Roman Haefeli wrote: while not being 100% sure, what frank meant with the other timing domain, i guess, he meant all the messages, that are not initiated by [metro]/[delay]/[pipe] and co. this would be messages from: - the

[PD] oggcast~ and similar objects - noobie question

2009-01-11 Thread carey dodge
Hello, I recently installed pd-extended on my OSX 10.5 mac and i am trying to setup a patch using the oggcast~, oggamp~, etc. externals and it says that I don't have them. tried /Applications/pd/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/oggcast~.pat and failed oggcast~ 1 512 ... couldn't

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Peter Plessas
Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Peter Plessas wrote: Thanks for the discussion Roman, see below Roman Haefeli wrote: while not being 100% sure, what frank meant with the other timing domain, i guess, he meant all the messages, that are not initiated by [metro]/[delay]/[pipe] and co. this

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Peter Plessas hat gesagt: // Peter Plessas wrote: That's what made me curious. Since the duration of a DSP-block does not belong to the realm of clock-delayed messages Actually it does belong to the same realm AFAIK: Pd's clock is computed using the audio card as a reference.

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Peter Plessas
Dear Roman, Frank, List Roman Haefeli wrote: while not being 100% sure, what frank meant with the other timing domain, i guess, he meant all the messages, that are not initiated by [metro]/[delay]/[pipe] and co. this would be messages from: - the guis and clicks on message boxes -

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Peter Plessas hat gesagt: // Peter Plessas wrote: I understand you mean Pd has two times, the first one being the sub-samply accuracy of clock-delayed objects like [delay]. (I exclude metro from this group since it has the hard-coded limit of integer msec values). [metro] has a

Re: [PD] oggcast~ and similar objects - noobie question

2009-01-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 12:23 -0500, carey dodge wrote: Hello, I recently installed pd-extended on my OSX 10.5 mac and i am trying to setup a patch using the oggcast~, oggamp~, etc. externals and it says that I don't have them. try: [pdogg/oggcast~] and [pdogg/oggamp~] roman

Re: [PD] oggcast~ and similar objects - noobie question

2009-01-11 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 12:23 -0500, carey dodge wrote: Hello, I recently installed pd-extended on my OSX 10.5 mac and i am trying to setup a patch using the oggcast~, oggamp~, etc. externals and it says that I don't have

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 18:34 +, Florian Hollerweger wrote: i never understood, why [timer] is giving different values from the ones that you expected, when connected to a [bang~] inside a re-blocked subpatch. would be cool to have that either explained or declared as a bug. Sorry,

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Florian Hollerweger
Hi Peter/Roman/Frank, hi list, Thanks for the lively discussion and your insightful contributions. Peter Plessas wrote: So realtime is dependent on the audio clock? I always thought that it took the cputime/OS time... [realtime] takes the system time as measured by the OS. (For clarity, I

Re: [PD] Hiding bits of the subpatch

2009-01-11 Thread Mike McGonagle
Well, I don't know exactly what is causing this to happen, but one other thing that does this is if you have a patch open, and just hitting one of the cursor keys will also cause a patch to become dirty. Maybe there is some relationship there... Mike On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Chris

Re: [PD] FUDI protocol specifications

2009-01-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Fear-Uncertainty-Doubt-Interface. I guess M$'s FUD has stuck with me... .hc On Jan 10, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: 'Fast Unified Digital Interface' (or whatever other acronym people can come up with :) M On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 01:44:35AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: hi

Re: [PD] logical timing question

2009-01-11 Thread Tim Blechmann
i get a minimum logical time of 1.45 msec (aquivalent to 64samples at 44.1 kHz) even when i use a blocksize of [block~ 32]. I think, bang~ should bang after each block, so with [block~ 32] it should bang every 32 samples. But it seems to have a lower limit of 64 samples. Don't know why.

[PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 nightlies now available

2009-01-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Starting today, there are now some Pd-extended 0.41.4 nightly builds available: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2009-01-11/ Start testing them so we can get the release out quickly! .hc You can't steal

Re: [PD] converting from midi to frequency in just intonation

2009-01-11 Thread Amos Robinson
Oh, that's beautiful; all my dreams come true! I'll have to play with it very soon. On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: Hallo, Amos Robinson hat gesagt: // Amos Robinson wrote: I was curious to play with just intonation earlier but couldn't find any easy