Re: [PD] [GEM] pix_video, firewire, and linux ?
have you tried coriander? I know it is the way to make firewire cameras work in linux using libdc, but had no luck interfacing with gem. it is something I've putting off for a while, J On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Mario Mora mare...@gmail.com wrote: pure:dyne never has worked with firewire for me, but i have used dyne:bolic with firewire with great results, but i have tested only audio, dyne:bolic has GEM and i have used flawessly but not tried capturing video by firewire yet. Maybe you can try using dyne:bolic and using the modules of pure:dyne for puredata and GEM so you can get a newer version than dyne:bolic has inside, that's the way i have used pd+gem in dybe:bolic with no problems so far 2009/3/10 adrian goya adrian.g...@gmail.com Hello to all. I'm having problems trying to connect a unibrain's fire-i firewire board camera in GEM. When I send a [driver 1( message and then [device /dev/video1394/0( to pix_video i get : initializing: Inappropriate ioctl for device If I send [driver 0( message I get get capabilities: Inappropriate ioctl for device The camera works under coriander no problem. I use it with openFrameworks also. It doesn't work with dvgrab. http://www.unibrain.com/Products/Vision … e_i_BC.htm A sony minidv firewire camera does work with pix_video however. Since my Debian system is a mess I downloaded pure:dyne's leek and potato to test the camera and had the same results. The miso version gave the same results. Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? I've searched the mail archives and every resource I could think of. I'm new to linux so maybe I'm missing some basic stuff. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Debian lenny/sid. Kernel 2.6.24 thankyou. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Jaime E Oliver LR joliv...@ucsd.edu www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdtoblender
hi me too .. i just started to study blender .. to get to interact with pd is a brilliant idea - i was thinking of 3d visual interfaces to some syhnths would be great! did you make any progerss with pd+blender since that post? i'm quite keen on python ..but seems like it's not very pyhtonie stuff that .. cheers, please keep in touch! -- ilya .d On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:26:25PM +0200, patrice colet wrote: Hi, I started to learn to use Blender for controlling it with puredata with OSC protocol, I would have been glad to use gamelogic sockets instead but it's poorly documented and OSC seems more useful in huge project implementations Welcome to any kind of comment instructions are into blend file ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended
On 10/03/2009, at 23.27, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: (snip) Many newbies are hung up because they can't get the example patches to do anything. A lot of the time, that's because they haven't turned up the audio. So to be precis and to check if i understand you correct: It's the word dB that is confusing? - While maybe the word Vol or Volume might clear it. If it is encapsulated in an object, then the complexity is hidden until you want to see it. Same idea with a osc~. The osc~ C code is far more complex. I don't think that's a fair analogy. I think it's quite clear, and i think most folk will have something like the same feeling, that what is beneath osc~ and other things you can type into a object-box such that an object is instantiated is by the syntax in a class of hidden until I want to see it. Abstractions generate another class and so does subpatches. The to later are maybe in the same class to some. Then comes GOBified abstractions. Then GOBified abstactions that use [cvn] tricks to make a funky interface. The syntax of the last is way different from the first and different from the rest too in the way that the syntax is a graphical design matter. GOP asb inherent syntax from the Pd it passes though, some i don't think that is conceptually that hard. Is this all blahblabbarbar? I agree it's getting hairy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd on MIPS
mbutubuntu wrote: I mean really MIPS, but does pd-anywhere support all pd externals??? If I need zexy may I be able to compile it and will zexy run on pd-anywhere??? i'm pretty sure it won't (esp. the signal objects). however, it would be nice to have zexy support PDa; so if somebody feels like doing it, i will happily integrate it. fgamr IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FFT and curve3d?
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Anyone know of a patch that maps an FFT over time to something like a curve3d in Gem? I remember a while back people posted something like that, but I can't find it. [pix_sig2pix~] was originally created by gg to create waterfall diagrams in combination with [imageVert]. [pix_sig2pix~] has changed a bit since then which requires to use heavy overlapping in order to produce waterfall diagrams. iirc there was a thread about this a couple of years ago. fgas,drt IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended
Steffen Juul wrote: On 10/03/2009, at 18.11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: (...) and the green/white toggle from [pddp/dsp]. I quite strongly think [cvn]'s tricks should be avoided in help patches, especially those default for vanilla objects. what are [cnv]'s tricks? setting their colour? i wouldn't call it a trick, as it is one of the few things you can actually do with a cnv. (a trick would probably be to set the send/receive labels at runtime; which really makes patches rather unreadably; another trick would be to move objects around to make GOPs be polymorphic; i agree that simple every-day objects should probably avoid such things; i still don't see any trick in setting the colour of a canvas or the value of a numberbox) Reason being it took me quite some time before i got heads and tails of it. Before that, it was a total mystery. Such mysteries are bad for learning since it may well obstruct learning of basic things. There is enough syntax to get into when starting to learn Pd. but myteries unveiled are good for learning. so it boils down to in-line documentation of the mysteries used. fgmasdr IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM] pix_video, firewire, and linux ?
Jaime Oliver wrote: have you tried coriander? I know it is the way to make firewire cameras work in linux using libdc, but had no luck interfacing with gem. it is something I've putting off for a while, it seems like i don't have any device that properly works with coriander. however, from what i read, coriander can create a videoloopback device which can then be used by Gem as an ordinary v4l device. have you tried that? if it doesn't work, how does it fail? fgmadr IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FFT and curve3d?
curve3d will be to slow. here is mine, made with openGL primitive. like Claude one, but with a log for the frequency + a time filter for the curve to be better. i think the best would be to add some feedback effect to create a kind of 3d effect. c Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Anyone know of a patch that maps an FFT over time to something like a curve3d in Gem? I remember a while back people posted something like that, but I can't find it. .hc All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list #N canvas 830 500 450 300 10; #N canvas 607 37 645 663 osc~ 0; #X obj 12 133 pack~; #X obj 14 7 inlet~; #X text 269 6 change block size; #X msg 77 379 0; #X obj 47 403 f; #X obj 63 428 + 1; #X obj 17 379 t a b; #X obj 16 245 gemhead; #X text 72 7 audio input; #X obj 13 29 rfft~; #X obj 13 51 *~; #X obj 53 53 *~; #X obj 173 6 block~ 4096 4; #X obj 12 75 /~ 4096; #X obj 12 95 log~; #X obj 12 114 *~ 0.05; #X obj 12 152 list prepend 0; #X obj 12 173 s \$0-fft; #X obj 172 26 table \$0-fft 2048; #X obj 172 46 table \$0-fft-lop 2048; #X obj 401 13 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 401 31 t b b; #X obj 400 71 until; #X msg 401 52 2048; #X msg 443 74 0; #X obj 400 96 f; #X obj 415 119 + 1; #X obj 400 163 tabread \$0-fft; #X obj 494 163 tabread \$0-fft-lop; #X obj 400 213 +; #X obj 400 256 tabwrite \$0-fft-lop; #X obj 400 138 t f f f; #X obj 424 7 bang~; #X obj 400 235 / 8; #X obj 495 187 * 7; #X obj 77 494 tabread \$0-fft-lop; #X obj 30 589 loadbang; #X obj 47 451 t f f; #X obj 98 591 l; #X obj 22 224 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 97 560 t l b; #X obj 18 659 curve 2; #X obj 46 519 pack f f f; #X floatatom 36 296 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 78 297 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 17 334 t a b; #X floatatom 72 250 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 114 251 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 17 358 repeat 2048; #X obj 14 277 translateXYZ -4 0 0; #X obj 47 471 log; #X obj 17 314 scaleXYZ 1.04 6 0; #X msg 30 611 res 2; #X connect 0 0 16 0; #X connect 1 0 9 0; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 4 0 37 0; #X connect 5 0 4 1; #X connect 6 0 41 0; #X connect 6 1 4 0; #X connect 7 0 49 0; #X connect 9 0 10 0; #X connect 9 0 10 1; #X connect 9 1 11 0; #X connect 9 1 11 1; #X connect 10 0 13 0; #X connect 11 0 13 0; #X connect 13 0 14 0; #X connect 14 0 15 0; #X connect 15 0 0 0; #X connect 16 0 17 0; #X connect 20 0 21 0; #X connect 21 0 23 0; #X connect 21 1 24 0; #X connect 22 0 25 0; #X connect 23 0 22 0; #X connect 24 0 25 1; #X connect 25 0 26 0; #X connect 25 0 31 0; #X connect 26 0 25 1; #X connect 27 0 29 0; #X connect 28 0 34 0; #X connect 29 0 33 0; #X connect 31 0 27 0; #X connect 31 1 28 0; #X connect 31 2 30 1; #X connect 32 0 21 0; #X connect 33 0 30 0; #X connect 34 0 29 1; #X connect 35 0 42 1; #X connect 36 0 52 0; #X connect 37 0 50 0; #X connect 37 1 35 0; #X connect 38 0 41 2; #X connect 39 0 7 0; #X connect 40 0 38 1; #X connect 40 1 38 0; #X connect 42 0 40 0; #X connect 42 0 41 1; #X connect 43 0 51 1; #X connect 44 0 51 2; #X connect 45 0 48 0; #X connect 45 1 3 0; #X connect 46 0 49 1; #X connect 47 0 49 2; #X connect 48 0 6 0; #X connect 49 0 51 0; #X connect 50 0 42 0; #X connect 51 0 45 0; #X connect 52 0 41 0; #X restore 138 152 pd osc~; #X msg 301 135 reset \, create \, 1; #X msg 307 157 0 \, destroy; #X floatatom 137 50 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 301 179 gemwin 60; #X msg 299 97 \; pd dsp 1 \;; #X obj 153 120 osc~ 333; #X obj 137 98 osc~ ; #X obj 137 73 mtof; #X floatatom 177 79 9 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 77 102 adc~; #X connect 1 0 4 0; #X connect 2 0 4 0; #X connect 3 0 8 0; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 10 0 0 0; #X connect 10 1 0 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM] pix_video, firewire, and linux ?
Well, I'll send the details as soon as i get a hand of the computer where i use it. From what I remember, I expected to find the device in /video0 and when I sent pix_video the dev /video0 I did't get an error message, but I did't get an image either. When I try /video1 however i get device doesn't exist or similar message. I should get back to you with more precise errors soon. J On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:54 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Jaime Oliver wrote: have you tried coriander? I know it is the way to make firewire cameras work in linux using libdc, but had no luck interfacing with gem. it is something I've putting off for a while, it seems like i don't have any device that properly works with coriander. however, from what i read, coriander can create a videoloopback device which can then be used by Gem as an ordinary v4l device. have you tried that? if it doesn't work, how does it fail? fgmadr IOhannes -- Jaime E Oliver LR joliv...@ucsd.edu www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] xbee reading for Pd
Hey, If you are using xbees with arduinos, then you want this, then you can just use the Pduino [arduino] object to get the data from it. http://michaelclemow.com/?p=296 That patch was for getting data straight from the xbee without an arduino. I've never used an xbee, I was just helping some people get it working with Pd, so I can't really give any advice on how to use them. .hc On Mar 11, 2009, at 6:21 AM, nicholas ward wrote: Hi Hans, Excellent timing. I was just about to order some xbee shields for arduinos. I was wondering what xbee hardware you went for? I know very little about xbee but need to set up a network of 8 agents and thought this could be the way to go. If you had anymore details that would be great. All the best Nick On 11 Mar 2009, at 00:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: In case anyone wants to read data from an xbee in Pd, here's a pd that does it, converted from a Max patch: xbee_io_reader.pd .hc [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Nicholas Ward, Ph.D Student Sonic Arts Research Centre Queens University Belfast Northern Ireland All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] dynamic creation arguments for route
Is is possible to dynamically alter the creation arguments for a route object? I'm currently building a patch that receives OSC messages which I want to parse using route. Each relevant message I would like to grab starts with a unique integer ID. I would like to pass this unique ID to my route object each time the ID changes so that I can retrieve the data which follows it. Any ideas? Rory. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FFT and curve3d?
I was thinking more about the look of it, rather than the speed of it. Any of you mind if I turn these into Gem examples and commit them? .hc On Mar 11, 2009, at 4:57 AM, cyrille henry wrote: curve3d will be to slow. here is mine, made with openGL primitive. like Claude one, but with a log for the frequency + a time filter for the curve to be better. i think the best would be to add some feedback effect to create a kind of 3d effect. c Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Anyone know of a patch that maps an FFT over time to something like a curve3d in Gem? I remember a while back people posted something like that, but I can't find it. .hc All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list #N canvas 830 500 450 300 10; #N canvas 607 37 645 663 osc~ 0; #X obj 12 133 pack~; #X obj 14 7 inlet~; #X text 269 6 change block size; #X msg 77 379 0; #X obj 47 403 f; #X obj 63 428 + 1; #X obj 17 379 t a b; #X obj 16 245 gemhead; #X text 72 7 audio input; #X obj 13 29 rfft~; #X obj 13 51 *~; #X obj 53 53 *~; #X obj 173 6 block~ 4096 4; #X obj 12 75 /~ 4096; #X obj 12 95 log~; #X obj 12 114 *~ 0.05; #X obj 12 152 list prepend 0; #X obj 12 173 s \$0-fft; #X obj 172 26 table \$0-fft 2048; #X obj 172 46 table \$0-fft-lop 2048; #X obj 401 13 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 401 31 t b b; #X obj 400 71 until; #X msg 401 52 2048; #X msg 443 74 0; #X obj 400 96 f; #X obj 415 119 + 1; #X obj 400 163 tabread \$0-fft; #X obj 494 163 tabread \$0-fft-lop; #X obj 400 213 +; #X obj 400 256 tabwrite \$0-fft-lop; #X obj 400 138 t f f f; #X obj 424 7 bang~; #X obj 400 235 / 8; #X obj 495 187 * 7; #X obj 77 494 tabread \$0-fft-lop; #X obj 30 589 loadbang; #X obj 47 451 t f f; #X obj 98 591 l; #X obj 22 224 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 97 560 t l b; #X obj 18 659 curve 2; #X obj 46 519 pack f f f; #X floatatom 36 296 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 78 297 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 17 334 t a b; #X floatatom 72 250 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 114 251 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 17 358 repeat 2048; #X obj 14 277 translateXYZ -4 0 0; #X obj 47 471 log; #X obj 17 314 scaleXYZ 1.04 6 0; #X msg 30 611 res 2; #X connect 0 0 16 0; #X connect 1 0 9 0; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 4 0 37 0; #X connect 5 0 4 1; #X connect 6 0 41 0; #X connect 6 1 4 0; #X connect 7 0 49 0; #X connect 9 0 10 0; #X connect 9 0 10 1; #X connect 9 1 11 0; #X connect 9 1 11 1; #X connect 10 0 13 0; #X connect 11 0 13 0; #X connect 13 0 14 0; #X connect 14 0 15 0; #X connect 15 0 0 0; #X connect 16 0 17 0; #X connect 20 0 21 0; #X connect 21 0 23 0; #X connect 21 1 24 0; #X connect 22 0 25 0; #X connect 23 0 22 0; #X connect 24 0 25 1; #X connect 25 0 26 0; #X connect 25 0 31 0; #X connect 26 0 25 1; #X connect 27 0 29 0; #X connect 28 0 34 0; #X connect 29 0 33 0; #X connect 31 0 27 0; #X connect 31 1 28 0; #X connect 31 2 30 1; #X connect 32 0 21 0; #X connect 33 0 30 0; #X connect 34 0 29 1; #X connect 35 0 42 1; #X connect 36 0 52 0; #X connect 37 0 50 0; #X connect 37 1 35 0; #X connect 38 0 41 2; #X connect 39 0 7 0; #X connect 40 0 38 1; #X connect 40 1 38 0; #X connect 42 0 40 0; #X connect 42 0 41 1; #X connect 43 0 51 1; #X connect 44 0 51 2; #X connect 45 0 48 0; #X connect 45 1 3 0; #X connect 46 0 49 1; #X connect 47 0 49 2; #X connect 48 0 6 0; #X connect 49 0 51 0; #X connect 50 0 42 0; #X connect 51 0 45 0; #X connect 52 0 41 0; #X restore 138 152 pd osc~; #X msg 301 135 reset \, create \, 1; #X msg 307 157 0 \, destroy; #X floatatom 137 50 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 301 179 gemwin 60; #X msg 299 97 \; pd dsp 1 \;; #X obj 153 120 osc~ 333; #X obj 137 98 osc~ ; #X obj 137 73 mtof; #X floatatom 177 79 9 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 77 102 adc~; #X connect 1 0 4 0; #X connect 2 0 4 0; #X connect 3 0 8 0; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 10 0 0 0; #X connect 10 1 0 0; There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dynamic creation arguments for route
Rory Walsh wrote: Is is possible to dynamically alter the creation arguments for a route object? I'm currently building a patch that receives OSC messages which I want to parse using route. Each relevant message I would like to grab starts with a unique integer ID. I would like to pass this unique ID to my route object each time the ID changes so that I can retrieve the data which follows it. Any ideas? [mrpeach/routeOSC] can do that. Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dynamic creation arguments for route
Rory Walsh wrote: Is is possible to dynamically alter the creation arguments for a route object? no. (i general it is not possible to dynamically alter the creation arguments of any object :-)) I'm currently building a patch that receives OSC messages which I want to parse using route. Each relevant message I would like to grab starts with a unique integer ID. I would like to pass this unique ID to my route object each time the ID changes so that I can retrieve the data which follows it. Any ideas? you can build abstractions that behave almost like settable routes. you can also desing your application differently. mfgasdr IOhannes #N canvas 621 256 538 535 10; #X obj 48 57 inlet; #X obj 48 87 list split 1; #X obj 48 355 outlet; #X obj 48 229 t a; #X obj 161 57 inlet; #X obj 48 274 list trim; #X obj 48 254 list append; #X obj 230 350 outlet reject; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 demux 0; #X obj 108 53 inlet; #X obj 108 186 outlet; #X obj 247 207 outlet; #X obj 119 144 spigot 1; #X obj 245 140 spigot 0; #X obj 271 61 inlet; #X obj 271 83 t f f; #X obj 174 119 == 0; #X obj 295 105 != 0; #X obj 119 80 t a a; #X connect 0 0 9 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 2 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 6 1 8 0; #X connect 7 0 3 1; #X connect 8 0 4 1; #X connect 9 0 3 0; #X connect 9 1 4 0; #X restore 48 303 pd demux; #X obj 49 206 t a b; #X obj 104 207 t a b; #X obj 148 252 t f; #X msg 86 231 0; #X msg 138 227 1; #X obj 101 161 f \$1; #X obj 48 184 select; #X obj 48 141 t a b; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 16 0; #X connect 1 1 6 1; #X connect 3 0 6 0; #X connect 4 0 14 1; #X connect 5 0 8 0; #X connect 6 0 5 0; #X connect 8 0 2 0; #X connect 8 1 7 0; #X connect 9 0 3 0; #X connect 9 1 12 0; #X connect 10 0 3 0; #X connect 10 1 13 0; #X connect 11 0 8 1; #X connect 12 0 11 0; #X connect 13 0 11 0; #X connect 14 0 15 1; #X connect 15 0 9 0; #X connect 15 1 10 0; #X connect 16 0 15 0; #X connect 16 1 14 0; #N canvas 621 256 538 535 10; #X obj 48 57 inlet; #X obj 48 87 list split 1; #X obj 48 184 select s; #X obj 48 115 symbol; #X obj 48 355 outlet; #X obj 48 141 t s b; #X obj 48 229 t a; #X obj 161 57 inlet; #X obj 101 161 symbol \$1; #X obj 48 274 list trim; #X obj 161 101 symbol; #X obj 48 254 list append; #X obj 230 350 outlet reject; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 demux 0; #X obj 108 53 inlet; #X obj 108 186 outlet; #X obj 247 207 outlet; #X obj 119 144 spigot 1; #X obj 245 140 spigot 0; #X obj 271 61 inlet; #X obj 271 83 t f f; #X obj 174 119 == 0; #X obj 295 105 != 0; #X obj 119 80 t a a; #X connect 0 0 9 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 2 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 6 1 8 0; #X connect 7 0 3 1; #X connect 8 0 4 1; #X connect 9 0 3 0; #X connect 9 1 4 0; #X restore 48 303 pd demux; #X obj 49 206 t a b; #X obj 104 207 t a b; #X obj 148 252 t f; #X msg 86 231 0; #X msg 138 227 1; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 1 1 11 1; #X connect 2 0 14 0; #X connect 2 1 15 0; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 2 0; #X connect 5 1 8 0; #X connect 6 0 11 0; #X connect 7 0 10 0; #X connect 8 0 2 1; #X connect 9 0 13 0; #X connect 10 0 8 1; #X connect 11 0 9 0; #X connect 13 0 4 0; #X connect 13 1 12 0; #X connect 14 0 6 0; #X connect 14 1 17 0; #X connect 15 0 6 0; #X connect 15 1 18 0; #X connect 16 0 13 1; #X connect 17 0 16 0; #X connect 18 0 16 0; smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] last call for gsoc mentors
Hey, I am going to submit the application today, it turns out it is due on the 13th, the app opened on the 9th. Everyone got their gmail accounts listed on the app? http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GSoCOrganizationApp2009 .hc [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd on MIPS
IOhannes, the MIPS doesn't have an FPU but the linux kernel will emulate it... I think Pd should works also with ~ objects... doesn't it? IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: mbutubuntu wrote: I mean really MIPS, but does pd-anywhere support all pd externals??? If I need zexy may I be able to compile it and will zexy run on pd-anywhere??? i'm pretty sure it won't (esp. the signal objects). however, it would be nice to have zexy support PDa; so if somebody feels like doing it, i will happily integrate it. fgamr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GEM on Linux netbook
I currently use a Macbook (OS 10.5) for all my PD patching. However, as I am primarily focused on using GEM for live video performance alongside musical groups, I am thinking about getting a second laptop for performances (to keep my Macbook safe). I'm thinking of getting an Acer Aspire One netbook running linux. I'd like to know the pros and cons of this. -Will swapping patches between Mac OS and Linux be a problem (I'm guessing no, but I figured I'd ask)? -I've heard of some problems with VGA out on Linux laptops, is this going to be an issue? -Does the netbook have enough processing power for general GEM applications? I'm usually not dealing with video files, but rather particle generation, shape manipulation, GIF texturing, and audio-response. On my Macbook (2.0 GHz intel processor) the CPU meter always shows below 50% usage (of course, that's not to say that it doesn't freeze up and boot me out sometimes). -Are there any other issues that you think of given this scenario? and if so, what other affordable/really-cheap laptops are there out there that I can run linux on? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM] pix_video, firewire, and linux ?
The coriander approach sounds like a great idea, this camera works no problem under it and you get total control over its functions. It would be out of my league to try to make that work myself, but I can help with testing if that's of any use. adrian. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.comwrote: Well, I'll send the details as soon as i get a hand of the computer where i use it. From what I remember, I expected to find the device in /video0 and when I sent pix_video the dev /video0 I did't get an error message, but I did't get an image either. When I try /video1 however i get device doesn't exist or similar message. I should get back to you with more precise errors soon. J On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:54 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Jaime Oliver wrote: have you tried coriander? I know it is the way to make firewire cameras work in linux using libdc, but had no luck interfacing with gem. it is something I've putting off for a while, it seems like i don't have any device that properly works with coriander. however, from what i read, coriander can create a videoloopback device which can then be used by Gem as an ordinary v4l device. have you tried that? if it doesn't work, how does it fail? fgmadr IOhannes -- Jaime E Oliver LR joliv...@ucsd.edu www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/http://www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver%0Awww-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd on MIPS
What kind of MIPS is this? Like an old SGI? If so, that should run Linux and Pd with no special tricks. .hc On Mar 11, 2009, at 11:40 AM, mbutubuntu wrote: IOhannes, the MIPS doesn't have an FPU but the linux kernel will emulate it... I think Pd should works also with ~ objects... doesn't it? IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: mbutubuntu wrote: I mean really MIPS, but does pd-anywhere support all pd externals??? If I need zexy may I be able to compile it and will zexy run on pd-anywhere??? i'm pretty sure it won't (esp. the signal objects). however, it would be nice to have zexy support PDa; so if somebody feels like doing it, i will happily integrate it. fgamr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM] pix_video, firewire, and linux ?
do you have coriander working? from what i remember it wasn't that hard to compile or get the libraries. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:45 AM, adrian goya adrian.g...@gmail.com wrote: The coriander approach sounds like a great idea, this camera works no problem under it and you get total control over its functions. It would be out of my league to try to make that work myself, but I can help with testing if that's of any use. adrian. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I'll send the details as soon as i get a hand of the computer where i use it. From what I remember, I expected to find the device in /video0 and when I sent pix_video the dev /video0 I did't get an error message, but I did't get an image either. When I try /video1 however i get device doesn't exist or similar message. I should get back to you with more precise errors soon. J On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:54 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Jaime Oliver wrote: have you tried coriander? I know it is the way to make firewire cameras work in linux using libdc, but had no luck interfacing with gem. it is something I've putting off for a while, it seems like i don't have any device that properly works with coriander. however, from what i read, coriander can create a videoloopback device which can then be used by Gem as an ordinary v4l device. have you tried that? if it doesn't work, how does it fail? fgmadr IOhannes -- Jaime E Oliver LR joliv...@ucsd.edu www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Jaime E Oliver LR joliv...@ucsd.edu www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM on Linux netbook
On Linux the Nvidia GPU is the way to go for GEM. You could probably get acceptable performance for basic GEM use from the Acer, but what takes most of the CPU to do with the Intel GMA processor barely taxes a modern GPU. For example, I have measured performance between a MacBook/Mac Mini and MacBook Pro where the Pro was 40x faster because of the GPU! There are netbooks with NV chips in them, but they cost a little more: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220385 cgc On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.comwrote: I currently use a Macbook (OS 10.5) for all my PD patching. However, as I am primarily focused on using GEM for live video performance alongside musical groups, I am thinking about getting a second laptop for performances (to keep my Macbook safe). I'm thinking of getting an Acer Aspire One netbook running linux. I'd like to know the pros and cons of this. -Will swapping patches between Mac OS and Linux be a problem (I'm guessing no, but I figured I'd ask)? -I've heard of some problems with VGA out on Linux laptops, is this going to be an issue? -Does the netbook have enough processing power for general GEM applications? I'm usually not dealing with video files, but rather particle generation, shape manipulation, GIF texturing, and audio-response. On my Macbook (2.0 GHz intel processor) the CPU meter always shows below 50% usage (of course, that's not to say that it doesn't freeze up and boot me out sometimes). -Are there any other issues that you think of given this scenario? and if so, what other affordable/really-cheap laptops are there out there that I can run linux on? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd on MIPS
mbutubuntu wrote: IOhannes, the MIPS doesn't have an FPU but the linux kernel will emulate it... I think Pd should works also with ~ objects... doesn't it? yes of course; and there is no reason why zexy should not work with that. however for PDanywhere (which i know that you are not using), zexy would have to be adapted, and i would like to have these changes (preferably without too much work) fgamsdr IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM] pix_video, firewire, and linux ?
I have coriander in the debian machine, I configured that computer about 8 months ago, left it in an expo and only got it back this week, so details about how I got it working are gone from my memory. However, in pure:dyne's leekpotato livecd a basic apt-get install coriander will get it working. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.comwrote: do you have coriander working? from what i remember it wasn't that hard to compile or get the libraries. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:45 AM, adrian goya adrian.g...@gmail.com wrote: The coriander approach sounds like a great idea, this camera works no problem under it and you get total control over its functions. It would be out of my league to try to make that work myself, but I can help with testing if that's of any use. adrian. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I'll send the details as soon as i get a hand of the computer where i use it. From what I remember, I expected to find the device in /video0 and when I sent pix_video the dev /video0 I did't get an error message, but I did't get an image either. When I try /video1 however i get device doesn't exist or similar message. I should get back to you with more precise errors soon. J On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:54 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Jaime Oliver wrote: have you tried coriander? I know it is the way to make firewire cameras work in linux using libdc, but had no luck interfacing with gem. it is something I've putting off for a while, it seems like i don't have any device that properly works with coriander. however, from what i read, coriander can create a videoloopback device which can then be used by Gem as an ordinary v4l device. have you tried that? if it doesn't work, how does it fail? fgmadr IOhannes -- Jaime E Oliver LR joliv...@ucsd.edu www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Jaime E Oliver LR joliv...@ucsd.edu www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/http://www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver%0Awww-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] self-modifying and dynamic patching
Would like to show some examples of dynamic and self-modifying Pd patches during a workshop here in Berlin. I know there are some in the archives (and maybe on people's HDs) somewhere, but damned if I can find them. Links to previkous posts or new examples welcome! best! Derek -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 163: Turn it upside down ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Hack Yer iPod! in Liverpool, March 12th thru 17th
Hey, come join me in Liverpool at FACT and hack your iPod! It starts tomorrow, its pretty last minute, we have dates, but the times aren't ironed out yet. Where: http://fact.co.uk/ in Liverpool, England When: March 12th thru 17th (check the website for times) Have an iPod you want to repurpose into a hackable music machine? Install iPodLinux and make music with Pd! Want to play Doom on your iPod Video? Come install Rockbox! Did your trusty iPod’s battery finally die, or disk give in? Come and break open your iPod, either the software, the hardware or both. Give it new life and new purpose. Also, we have on hand our stash of old iPods for harvesting parts, and the newfound skills for frankensteining dead iPods into living ones. Join Hans-Christoph Steiner and Chris “the Widget” DiMauro with your own iPod, or try your hand to see if you can create a living one from our pile. This workshop is a place to get exposed to the possibilities. We’ve been hacking on some iPods to see what’s possible. Lots of this software is kind of raw, but you can do lots of fun stuff now. We are just getting started, we are having fun exploring the options. Now we want to help you do the same. Check out our web page to see if your devices are supported: http://dev.eyebeam.org/projects/reware/wiki/FactWorkshop .hc Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Hack Yer iPod! in Liverpool, March 12th thru 17th
Pensé que le podía interesar a tu gente. saludos, Diego 2009/3/11 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org Hey, come join me in Liverpool at FACT and hack your iPod! It starts tomorrow, its pretty last minute, we have dates, but the times aren't ironed out yet. Where: http://fact.co.uk/ in Liverpool, England When: March 12th thru 17th (check the website for times) Have an iPod you want to repurpose into a hackable music machine? Install iPodLinux and make music with Pd! Want to play Doom on your iPod Video? Come install Rockbox! Did your trusty iPod’s battery finally die, or disk give in? Come and break open your iPod, either the software, the hardware or both. Give it new life and new purpose. Also, we have on hand our stash of old iPods for harvesting parts, and the newfound skills for frankensteining dead iPods into living ones. Join Hans-Christoph Steiner and Chris “the Widget” DiMauro with your own iPod, or try your hand to see if you can create a living one from our pile. This workshop is a place to get exposed to the possibilities. We’ve been hacking on some iPods to see what’s possible. Lots of this software is kind of raw, but you can do lots of fun stuff now. We are just getting started, we are having fun exploring the options. Now we want to help you do the same. Check out our web page to see if your devices are supported: http://dev.eyebeam.org/projects/reware/wiki/FactWorkshop .hc Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Hack Yer iPod! in Liverpool, March 12th thru 17th
Pensé que le podía interesar a tu gente. saludos, Diego 2009/3/11 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org Hey, come join me in Liverpool at FACT and hack your iPod! It starts tomorrow, its pretty last minute, we have dates, but the times aren't ironed out yet. Where: http://fact.co.uk/ in Liverpool, England When: March 12th thru 17th (check the website for times) Have an iPod you want to repurpose into a hackable music machine? Install iPodLinux and make music with Pd! Want to play Doom on your iPod Video? Come install Rockbox! Did your trusty iPod’s battery finally die, or disk give in? Come and break open your iPod, either the software, the hardware or both. Give it new life and new purpose. Also, we have on hand our stash of old iPods for harvesting parts, and the newfound skills for frankensteining dead iPods into living ones. Join Hans-Christoph Steiner and Chris “the Widget” DiMauro with your own iPod, or try your hand to see if you can create a living one from our pile. This workshop is a place to get exposed to the possibilities. We’ve been hacking on some iPods to see what’s possible. Lots of this software is kind of raw, but you can do lots of fun stuff now. We are just getting started, we are having fun exploring the options. Now we want to help you do the same. Check out our web page to see if your devices are supported: http://dev.eyebeam.org/projects/reware/wiki/FactWorkshop .hc Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Hack Yer iPod! in Liverpool, March 12th thru 17th
Oh Hans! Why weren't we told sooner!! Train tickets will be £80 by now. In slightly more positive news, I noticed 'Arduino Hackday' on the 23rd of May! On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.orgwrote: Hey, come join me in Liverpool at FACT and hack your iPod! It starts tomorrow, its pretty last minute, we have dates, but the times aren't ironed out yet. Where: http://fact.co.uk/ in Liverpool, England When: March 12th thru 17th (check the website for times) Have an iPod you want to repurpose into a hackable music machine? Install iPodLinux and make music with Pd! Want to play Doom on your iPod Video? Come install Rockbox! Did your trusty iPod’s battery finally die, or disk give in? Come and break open your iPod, either the software, the hardware or both. Give it new life and new purpose. Also, we have on hand our stash of old iPods for harvesting parts, and the newfound skills for frankensteining dead iPods into living ones. Join Hans-Christoph Steiner and Chris “the Widget” DiMauro with your own iPod, or try your hand to see if you can create a living one from our pile. This workshop is a place to get exposed to the possibilities. We’ve been hacking on some iPods to see what’s possible. Lots of this software is kind of raw, but you can do lots of fun stuff now. We are just getting started, we are having fun exploring the options. Now we want to help you do the same. Check out our web page to see if your devices are supported: http://dev.eyebeam.org/projects/reware/wiki/FactWorkshop .hc Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] self-modifying and dynamic patching
Hi Derek, Maybe a very simple example would be good. I have an Ozone MIDI-controller, and it has eight knobs, which send out continuous controller data on 8 different MIDI CC numbers. Now, [ctlin] (MIDI control input) doesn't have settable arguments -- only creation args., so I racked my brains trying to figure out how to make an object that would take a knob number argument, 1-8, convert that number to the corresponding controller number, and watch that controller number with [ctlin]. (Admittedly, it would have been easy to create [Ozknob1]...[Ozknob8] objects, but this reeked of kludge to my sensibilities; neither did I consider it elegant to use a [ctlin] for each knob that watched *all* controller data, then [route]d the data from the desired control number -- I wanted the pre-filtering to be done by [ctlin], if possible). The more generalized problem is this: take a creation argument of an abstraction, *do something with it*, then get it into the creation argument of a contained abstraction. Nothing I tried worked, until I took the attached dynamic approach. Phil Stone www.pkstonemusic.com Derek Holzer wrote: Would like to show some examples of dynamic and self-modifying Pd patches during a workshop here in Berlin. I know there are some in the archives (and maybe on people's HDs) somewhere, but damned if I can find them. Links to previkous posts or new examples welcome! best! Derek #N canvas 676 96 394 341 10; #X obj 8 105 21; #X obj 34 105 22; #X obj 60 105 23; #X obj 86 105 24; #X obj 112 105 25; #X obj 138 105 26; #X obj 164 105 27; #X obj 189 105 28; #X obj 37 74 select 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8; #X obj 37 51 f \$1; #X obj 37 6 loadbang; #X obj 103 304 outlet; #X text 8 149 Ozone mapping; #X msg 237 93 2; #X text 267 91 channel; #X obj 37 28 t b b; #X obj 102 158 pack f f; #X text 110 16 Use: [OzKnob n] where n is the knob #; #N canvas 0 22 210 111 \$0-oz_ctrlknob 0; #X obj 28 72 outlet; #X restore 103 272 pd \$0-oz_ctrlknob; #X obj 102 218 s pd-\$0-oz_ctrlknob; #X msg 102 187 obj 10 10 ctlin \$1 \$2 \, connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 0 0 16 0; #X connect 1 0 16 0; #X connect 2 0 16 0; #X connect 3 0 16 0; #X connect 4 0 16 0; #X connect 5 0 16 0; #X connect 6 0 16 0; #X connect 7 0 16 0; #X connect 8 0 0 0; #X connect 8 1 1 0; #X connect 8 2 2 0; #X connect 8 3 3 0; #X connect 8 4 4 0; #X connect 8 5 5 0; #X connect 8 6 6 0; #X connect 8 7 7 0; #X connect 9 0 8 0; #X connect 10 0 15 0; #X connect 13 0 16 1; #X connect 15 0 9 0; #X connect 15 1 13 0; #X connect 16 0 20 0; #X connect 18 0 11 0; #X connect 20 0 19 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Hack Yer iPod! in Liverpool, March 12th thru 17th
Sorry, its been a little chaotic on my end these past weeks. Maybe they have last minute specials on trains, or rideshares with people with cards. .hc On Mar 11, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Arif Driessen wrote: Oh Hans! Why weren't we told sooner!! Train tickets will be £80 by now. In slightly more positive news, I noticed 'Arduino Hackday' on the 23rd of May! On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote: Hey, come join me in Liverpool at FACT and hack your iPod! It starts tomorrow, its pretty last minute, we have dates, but the times aren't ironed out yet. Where: http://fact.co.uk/ in Liverpool, England When: March 12th thru 17th (check the website for times) Have an iPod you want to repurpose into a hackable music machine? Install iPodLinux and make music with Pd! Want to play Doom on your iPod Video? Come install Rockbox! Did your trusty iPod’s battery finally die, or disk give in? Come and break open your iPod, either the software, the hardware or both. Give it new life and new purpose. Also, we have on hand our stash of old iPods for harvesting parts, and the newfound skills for frankensteining dead iPods into living ones. Join Hans-Christoph Steiner and Chris “the Widget” DiMauro with your own iPod, or try your hand to see if you can create a living one from our pile. This workshop is a place to get exposed to the possibilities. We’ve been hacking on some iPods to see what’s possible. Lots of this software is kind of raw, but you can do lots of fun stuff now. We are just getting started, we are having fun exploring the options. Now we want to help you do the same. Check out our web page to see if your devices are supported: http://dev.eyebeam.org/projects/reware/wiki/FactWorkshop .hc Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] self-modifying and dynamic patching
polypoly and nqpoly4 are good examples. nqpoly4 is in Pd-extended, you can get polypoly here: http://itp.nyu.edu/dataflow/uploads/polypoly.zip .hc On Mar 11, 2009, at 3:27 PM, Phil Stone wrote: Hi Derek, Maybe a very simple example would be good. I have an Ozone MIDI- controller, and it has eight knobs, which send out continuous controller data on 8 different MIDI CC numbers. Now, [ctlin] (MIDI control input) doesn't have settable arguments -- only creation args., so I racked my brains trying to figure out how to make an object that would take a knob number argument, 1-8, convert that number to the corresponding controller number, and watch that controller number with [ctlin]. (Admittedly, it would have been easy to create [Ozknob1]...[Ozknob8] objects, but this reeked of kludge to my sensibilities; neither did I consider it elegant to use a [ctlin] for each knob that watched *all* controller data, then [route]d the data from the desired control number -- I wanted the pre-filtering to be done by [ctlin], if possible). The more generalized problem is this: take a creation argument of an abstraction, *do something with it*, then get it into the creation argument of a contained abstraction. Nothing I tried worked, until I took the attached dynamic approach. Phil Stone www.pkstonemusic.com Derek Holzer wrote: Would like to show some examples of dynamic and self-modifying Pd patches during a workshop here in Berlin. I know there are some in the archives (and maybe on people's HDs) somewhere, but damned if I can find them. Links to previkous posts or new examples welcome! best! Derek #N canvas 676 96 394 341 10; #X obj 8 105 21; #X obj 34 105 22; #X obj 60 105 23; #X obj 86 105 24; #X obj 112 105 25; #X obj 138 105 26; #X obj 164 105 27; #X obj 189 105 28; #X obj 37 74 select 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8; #X obj 37 51 f \$1; #X obj 37 6 loadbang; #X obj 103 304 outlet; #X text 8 149 Ozone mapping; #X msg 237 93 2; #X text 267 91 channel; #X obj 37 28 t b b; #X obj 102 158 pack f f; #X text 110 16 Use: [OzKnob n] where n is the knob #; #N canvas 0 22 210 111 \$0-oz_ctrlknob 0; #X obj 28 72 outlet; #X restore 103 272 pd \$0-oz_ctrlknob; #X obj 102 218 s pd-\$0-oz_ctrlknob; #X msg 102 187 obj 10 10 ctlin \$1 \$2 \, connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 0 0 16 0; #X connect 1 0 16 0; #X connect 2 0 16 0; #X connect 3 0 16 0; #X connect 4 0 16 0; #X connect 5 0 16 0; #X connect 6 0 16 0; #X connect 7 0 16 0; #X connect 8 0 0 0; #X connect 8 1 1 0; #X connect 8 2 2 0; #X connect 8 3 3 0; #X connect 8 4 4 0; #X connect 8 5 5 0; #X connect 8 6 6 0; #X connect 8 7 7 0; #X connect 9 0 8 0; #X connect 10 0 15 0; #X connect 13 0 16 1; #X connect 15 0 9 0; #X connect 15 1 13 0; #X connect 16 0 20 0; #X connect 18 0 11 0; #X connect 20 0 19 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] self-modifying and dynamic patching
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: polypoly and nqpoly4 are good examples. nqpoly4 is in Pd-extended, you can get polypoly here: http://itp.nyu.edu/dataflow/uploads/polypoly.zip Isn't polypoly also in pd-extended? Anyway the reference location is the pd subversion in: /trunk/abstractions/footils/foo/ Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] self-modifying and dynamic patching
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote: Would like to show some examples of dynamic and self-modifying Pd patches during a workshop here in Berlin. I know there are some in the archives (and maybe on people's HDs) somewhere, but damned if I can find them. Links to previkous posts or new examples welcome! Here are a few I've done: [hotpack] (in sfruit/ in pd-extended) dynamically builds a [pack] object along with enough [t b a] objects to make every inlet hot. [deeprouteOSC] (ditto) creates a chain of [routeOSC] objects so you can route something like /synth/filter/cutoff instead of making 3 objects. [troute] (ditto) is a settable [route] object, where you can pass a list to its rightmost inlet to change what its routing. [nsend/nreceive] (in nsend/ in pd-extended) gangs sends together, for when you want to send the output of a multi-output object elsewhere (e.g. [nsend 3 $0.notein] creates an nsend with 3 inlets, and [nreceive 3 $0.notein] creates a corresponding nreceive). [hotpack] and [deeprouteOSC] are probably the best balance of complexity vs. utility. Best Luke best! Derek -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 163: Turn it upside down ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] self-modifying and dynamic patching
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote: Would like to show some examples of dynamic and self-modifying Pd patches during a workshop here in Berlin. I know there are some in the archives (and maybe on people's HDs) somewhere, but damned if I can find them. Links to previous posts or new examples welcome! [#in] and [#out] in GridFlow = 0.9.2. But make sure to pick the latest, as 0.9.2 was quite buggy. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] *weird* characters
hi using [textfile], i want to concatenate long strings of *unusual* characters (like the triangle or Delta character you get by pressing ALT, caps, d). maybe there is an alternative to [textfile]? Is there a way to handle these characters in pd (have them in a message, then add them to textfile would be wonderful)? if i press ALT caps d while editing a message i get an error rectangle – is it because the font in pd cant deal with the ∆ sign? can i use ascii codes for this? key gives me 8710 for delta, any way i can use that? thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Exhibition in IMAL (Bruxelles/Brussels)
Hello list, Our next exhibition at Imal (Bruxelles/Brussels). If you are interested by the subject, you are welcome (and all is made with Pd/GEM). ++ Jack [Français / English ] Stock Overflow : Recontextualising the Crisis 12 - 31 / 03/ 2009 Exposition Conférences / Exhibition Conferences Vernissage ce Jeudi 12 à 18h00 avec conférences de Geert Lovink et Florian Schneider dès 19h00 Opening on Thursday 12, 18:00 with Geert Lovink and Florian Schneider's lectures at 19:00 Stock Overflow est une opération proposée par RYBN pour recontextualiser la crise et les stratégies politiques et médiatiques qui l'accompagnent, autour des thèmes de la catastrophe, de l'instabilité structurelle et des mythologies des marchés. Stock Overflow is an operation proposed by RYBN to recontextualize the crisis, its mediatic and politic strategies, on the topics of disaster, structural instability and financial markets mythologies. WITH / AVEC RYBN, Geert Lovink (net activist and theoretician), Florian Schneider (writer, filmmaker, net activist), Brian Holmes (art critic), Late S. Horace Lawson-Hetchely (information systems consulting), Société Réaliste (artists), Bertrand Charles (journalist specialized in business intelligence). *EXHIBITION* / *EXPOSITION* ANTIDATAMINING, RYBN 2006-2009 http://www.antidatamining.net Antidatamining est une série de représentations visuelles des données financières qui transitent sur internet. L'économie contemporaine y est incarnée par ses principaux acteurs - entreprises, place boursières, banques et fonds d'investissement, grands groupes - et par leurs interactions : liens capitalistiques entre les acteurs économiques, déploiements géographiques, articulation autour des places de marchés. Au-delà de la crise actuelle, de sa médiatisation et des leviers politiques qu'elle génère, Antidatamining est un dispositif de veille permanente qui tente de mettre en évidence la structure de l'économie mondiale, envisagée comme un système dynamique complexe. Antidatamining is a series of visualizations of financial data extracted from the web. Economy is represented by its main agents - companies, groups and holdings, stock exchanges, banks and investment funds - and their interactions : capital relationships, geographic deployments, structuralization on market places. Beyond the current crisis, its mediatic and polictic levers, Antidatamining is a permanent monitoring device, which aims to highlight the structure of the contemporary economy, seen as a complex dynamic system. *CONFERENCES* GEERT LOVINK FLORIAN SCHNEIDER Net activism and tactical medias / Médias tactiques et net-activisme Thursday 12 march - 19h / jeudi 12 mars - 19:00 (in english) RYBN HORACE LATE LAWSON Financial Information systems / Systèmes d'informations financiers Friday 20 march - 20h / vendredi 20 mars - 20:00 BRIAN HOLMES Ecological domination of financial capitalism / Domination écologique du capitalisme financier Wednesday 25 march - 19h / mercredi 25 mars - 19:00 SOCIETE REALISTE BERTRAND CHARLES Economics subversion / Détournement économique Friday 27 march - 20h / vendredi 27 mars - 20:00 conferences streaming on * http://giss.tv:8000/iMAL_live.ogg * http://giss.tv/interface/?mp=iMAL_live.ogg *INFO* Opening Hours: Wednesday - Sunday 14:00 - 19:00 Heures d'ouverture: Mercredi - Dimanche 14:00 - 19:0 Vernissage Expo: jeudi 12 mars - 18:00 / Exhibition Opening: Thursday 12 march - 18:00 FEES/TARIFS : EXHIBITION/EXPOSITION 3¤, CONFERENCES free/gratuit Avec le soutien de / With the support of : iMAL, Cimatics and Predict-market.biz leader in the field of financial prediction analysis. More on/ Plus d'infos sur: http://www.imal.org/StockOverflow___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
