Re: [PD] can't setup midi device - maybe alsa is missing.

2009-04-17 Thread Ed Kelly

Have a look at what 
ls /dev/midi*
gives you.
You may have to link the midi device to one that PD can recognise.
I have to do this every time, before I start PD:

sudo ln -s /dev/midi1 /dev/midi

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--- On Fri, 17/4/09, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:

 From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] can't setup midi device - maybe alsa is missing.
 To: hard off hard@gmail.com
 Cc: pd list pd-list@iem.at
 Date: Friday, 17 April, 2009, 11:43 AM
 hard off wrote:
  i just installed pd-0.42-4, but i can't get midi
 working.  pd -listdev says
  i have no midi devices.
  
  The alsa Aconnectgui interface doesn't list pd as a
 midi device either, so
  my guess is that i missed something while installing.
 
 start pd with -alsamidi (or select alsa-midi from the
 media-settings)
 by default, Pd uses OSS midi, that's why you won't see it
 at aconnectgui.
 
 
 fgmar
 IOhannes
 
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Re: [PD] can't setup midi device - maybe alsa is missing.

2009-04-17 Thread hard off
YES! thank you Ed - you're a mega legend!!!

pd is now controlling the squelch of my MKS-50 alpha juno rack.

beautiful.

.matt.
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Re: [PD] Need help for presenting workshop

2009-04-17 Thread hard off
a really good way to practically demonstrate PD is to build a simple patch
in front of people.  maybe practice building that patch a couple of times
before you do the presentation.
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Re: [PD] symbolarray

2009-04-17 Thread lsw

Looks pretty useful. Also a great structures example.
Thanks.


Am 17.04.2009, 10:24 Uhr, schrieb Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org:


Hi,

maybe useful to someone else besides me: Attached is a [symbolarray]
object that maps integer indices to symbols. It's using data
structures inside, but you won't perceive them.

Pd BSD bla. license

Ciao


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Re: [PD] symbolarray

2009-04-17 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
lsw hat gesagt: // lsw wrote:

 Looks pretty useful. Also a great structures example.

Btw.: To fill the symbolarray [list-enumerate] from [list]-abs is great.

[symbolarray] also is pretty fast if you have to lookup something in large
lists. I tested it with an arraysize of 100,000,000 elements, which takes
roughly 300 MB RAM according to my system monitor (with all elements except the
last one empty).  Creating the array takes several seconds, but looking up the
final element happens instantly afterwards.

The other Pd-vanilla ways I know to implement this are textfile-dumps with
rewind+[until] or [select]-constructs or [list-idx], which all are unusable
with arrays of these sizes.

And of course the patch can be modified to look up any kind of list whose
structure is known.

Now we still need maps/hashes.

Ciao
-- 
Frank

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Re: [PD] Need help for presenting workshop

2009-04-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Yes, definitely, the way I teach now is have everyone in the workshop  
build a patch at the same time as I bulid it on the main screen. 
Then I go around and help everyone get it working.  Then they all get  
it working at the end.


There are lots of materials you can use, here are two good resources:
http://puredata.info/docs/workshops
http://en.flossmanuals.net/puredata

I attached my favorite Pd hello world patch, it is a very simple ring  
modulator on your voice.


hello world.pd
Description: Binary data



.hc


On Apr 17, 2009, at 7:58 AM, hard off wrote:

a really good way to practically demonstrate PD is to build a simple  
patch in front of people.  maybe practice building that patch a  
couple of times before you do the presentation.



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Re: [PD] Need help for presenting workshop

2009-04-17 Thread Greg Pond
When I have been involved with beginning level workshops for both
Processing and PD the approach Hans and hard off suggest is definitely
the best. Miller taught a workshop here a while ago where he had the
students build several small patches, each subsequent patch used some
part of the previous as a starting point so students got some sense of
continuity and learned a method by which they could continue to work
after the class - it gave them a small toolbox to work with later.
Golan Levin and Casey Reas each do the something similar to introduce
Processing.

Greg

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 Yes, definitely, the way I teach now is have everyone in the workshop build
 a patch at the same time as I bulid it on the main screen.    Then I go
 around and help everyone get it working.  Then they all get it working at
 the end.

 There are lots of materials you can use, here are two good resources:
 http://puredata.info/docs/workshops
 http://en.flossmanuals.net/puredata

 I attached my favorite Pd hello world patch, it is a very simple ring
 modulator on your voice.



 .hc


 On Apr 17, 2009, at 7:58 AM, hard off wrote:

 a really good way to practically demonstrate PD is to build a simple patch
 in front of people.  maybe practice building that patch a couple of times
 before you do the presentation.


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[PD] abstraction creation audio engine start

2009-04-17 Thread Tuti
Hi All,
Does anybody know how to solve that one (see below)? I found it posted
awhile ago but (it seems that) it didn't get any reply. Now I'm having
the same problem. Did anybody find a way around that? Any thoughts are
very welcome.
Cheers!

--
Pd-message abstraction creation doesn't start the audio within the abstraction

 Okay, another bug using the Pd messages to create objects.

 If you place an abstraction within a patch using a obj x y
abstraction| message, the audio for the abstraction doesn't actually
function until you connect two tilde objects within the abstraction; only
then does it magically come to life.

 Thoughts?

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Re: [PD] symbolarray

2009-04-17 Thread dmotd
hey frank..  

i was meaning to contact you a while ago about this.. i have 
previously built a hashing table for lists.. i have attached a 
package with the necessary abstractions, and a small help file.

i scratched this together quite quickly for a project deadline, i 
guess it shares some of the behaviour of zexy's msgfile, but it is 
by no means feature identical.

anyhow, i built this before i discovered your list-abs project, and 
as there would be a lot of shared behaviour between your 
abstractions and the ones i'm using internally here, it would 
probably benefit from having the internals ported across, and 
hopefully included within the list-abs toolset.

so perhaps you may be interested in a bit of a collaboration? this 
is not something i'm very precious about, but its something i get a 
fair bit of use out of and could definitely benefit from a bit of a 
clean up.

hope you're well :)

cheers,
dmotd



On Friday 17 April 2009 23:52:33 you wrote:
 Hallo,

 lsw hat gesagt: // lsw wrote:
  Looks pretty useful. Also a great structures example.

 Btw.: To fill the symbolarray [list-enumerate] from [list]-abs is
 great.

 [symbolarray] also is pretty fast if you have to lookup something
 in large lists. I tested it with an arraysize of 100,000,000
 elements, which takes roughly 300 MB RAM according to my system
 monitor (with all elements except the last one empty).  Creating
 the array takes several seconds, but looking up the final element
 happens instantly afterwards.

 The other Pd-vanilla ways I know to implement this are
 textfile-dumps with rewind+[until] or [select]-constructs or
 [list-idx], which all are unusable with arrays of these sizes.

 And of course the patch can be modified to look up any kind of
 list whose structure is known.

 Now we still need maps/hashes.

 Ciao




list-array.tar.gz
Description: application/tgz
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