Re: [PD] just to look at

2009-07-08 Thread marius schebella

hi markus,
I did not know Pd/GEM could do all that. some of the most impressive 
visuals I have seen done with pd/GEM!! hope to see this live soon.

marius.

bra...@subnet.at wrote:

...and to say thank you to all the pd comunity.

its mainly Pure data and Gem in combunation with 3dsMax. hope you#180;ll
enjoy.

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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 52, Issue 19

2009-07-08 Thread michael green
 loopback:

print: 240
print: 67
print: 16
print: 247
print: 240
print: 67
print: 247
print: 240
print: 67
print: 16
print: 247
print: 240
print: 67
print: 16
print: 73
print: 247
print: 240
print: 67
print: 16
print: 73
print: 8
print: 247
print: 240
print: 67
print: 16
print: 73
print: 247
print: 240
print: 67
print: 16
print: 247
print: 240
print: 67
print: 16
print: 247
print: 240
print: 67
print: 16
print: 73
print: 8
print: 247
print: 240
print: 67
print: 16
print: 247
print: 240
print: 67
print: 16
print: 73
print: 247
print: 240
print: 67
print: 16
print: 73
print: 247
print: 240
print: 67
print: 16
print: 73
print: 247

This makes me think I'm trying to send too much data in too short
intervals...? Is there a handy way to limit the density of my output? (i
think its not not [drip] as it has to stay realtime)
I'm not very experienced, sorry if this traces back to something very
obvious!

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From: Alex x37v.a...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PD] Sysex out problems (linux only)
To: Andr?s Mur?nyi muran...@gmail.com
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It looks like you may experiencing another thing that i've complained
about... pd's alsa midi connects to all MIDI inputs and outputs that
it can.. this includes alsa's MIDI through.. so everything that you
send out gets echoed back into the input.. SUPER annoying.

run aconnect [or easier, though not great, aconnectgui] and see if
that is the case for you.. disconnect pd from the alsa through port.

-Alex

2009/7/7 Andr?s Mur?nyi muran...@gmail.com:

 2009/7/8 Alex x37v.a...@gmail.com

  - sysex gets fragmented (also when nothing is sent out meanwhile by
  other
  objects). It is always properly terminated with '247' but the content is
  often truncated. Is this a bug/feature...? What is your best
  recommendation
  knowing that my patch is full of sysex outs (+envelopes on some of
  them!)
  - sysex just magically does not work on the target machine ;o) I have no
  clue why except for this thing with being truncated but it *never* works
  even if the message seems to go out intact. Even more interesting that
  the
  machine shows me that it is recieving sysex! Tried with the mpu-401 of
  an
  Audigy and with a MOTU 828 mkII through Jack and a2jmidid (jack-alsa
  midi
  bridge).



 I haven't actually tested sysex out limits, but sysex in is limited to
 something like 24 byte messages..

 here is a thread where i talk about it:
 http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067372.html

 It is hard coded into the source. You can modify the source to change
 the hard coded limit.. i have a diff on that thread which shows how i
 did it.

 Thanks Alex, it's an important thing to know.
 My sysex is shorter than 24B it's just broken.
 What we shall see repeating is 240 67 16 73 8 16 19 (knobvalue) 247

 Instead I'm having this grinded mess coming back on physical loopback:

 print: 240
 print: 67
 print: 16
 print: 247
 print: 240
 print: 67
 print: 247
 print: 240
 print: 67
 print: 16
 print: 247
 print: 240
 print: 67
 print: 16
 print: 73
 print: 247
 print: 240
 print: 67
 print: 16
 print: 73
 print: 8
 print: 247
 print: 240
 print: 67
 print: 16
 print: 73
 print: 247
 print: 240
 print: 67
 print: 16
 print: 247
 print: 240
 print: 67
 print: 16
 print: 247
 print: 240
 print: 67
 print: 16
 print: 73
 print: 8
 print: 247
 print: 240
 print: 67
 print: 16
 print: 247
 print: 240
 print: 67
 print: 16
 print: 73
 print: 247
 print: 240
 print: 67
 print: 16
 print: 73
 print: 247
 print: 240
 print: 67
 print: 16
 print: 73
 print: 247

 This makes me think I'm trying to send too much data in too short
 intervals...? Is there a handy way to limit the density of my output? (i
 think its not not [drip] as it has to stay realtime)
 I'm not very experienced, sorry if this traces back to something very
 obvious!

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2009/7/8 Alex x37v.a...@gmail.com

 It looks like you may experiencing another thing that i've complained
 about... pd's alsa midi connects to all MIDI inputs and outputs that
 it can.. this includes alsa's MIDI through.. so everything that you
 send out gets echoed back into the input.. SUPER

Re: [PD] rotating coordinate system

2009-07-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Achim Bornhoeft hat gesagt: // Achim Bornhoeft wrote:

 I tried this but without the results I expected.
 Probably it was not very clear how I explained it.
 See attached patch for a better description of what I am looking for.

Attached is a version which should do what you expect. I think you were just
missing the correct translations of the center of rotation: It usually is the
point (0,0), so if you want to rotate around a different center, like (50, 50)
in your example, you first need to translate everything to (0,0). This is done
in the [pd scale] and [pd unscale] subpatches by adding rsp. substracting 50.

Ciao
-- 
Frank
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;
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#X connect 5 0 1 0;
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#X obj 100 252 expr $f2*$f1/180;
#X floatatom 343 128 5 0 0 1 rotation - -;
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#X obj 85 83 - 50;
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#X connect 0 0 4 0;
#X connect 2 0 5 0;
#X connect 3 0 5 1;
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#X connect 4 1 3 0;
#X connect 5 0 1 0;
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;
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Re: [PD] workshop in Boston August 1st

2009-07-08 Thread t'es in t'es bat
hello
I'm so agree with yves...

I think it's time to say that linux is an real alternative made by people
for people...

Pd on ubuntu work so fine...
Even if i work with apple computer also what i see is that many object are
not working on this Os
and it's so expensive to get a powerfull machine...

Linux is fashonable in fact
 it's future...




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[PD] [PD-announce] Providence Pd club - meeting #2

2009-07-08 Thread Shawn Greenlee

Pd club - 2nd meeting!

Wednesday, July 8
7:00 - 9:00 PM
AS220 Labs
115 Empire St., 2nd floor
Providence, RI  02903 USA

http://www.as220.org/labs/pd/

The AS220 Labs Pd club moves forward with it's 2nd session.  On the  
agenda for this next meeting is a review of my crash course from the  
first session, more on audio synthesis/signal processing, group  
handiwork/trouble-shooting, and whatever may arise.


Remaining summer meetings are scheduled for:

July 8
July 22
August 5
August 26

All area patchers are welcome from beginner to expert.   Attendance  
is free.   Bring your laptop with Pd-extended installed.










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Re: [PD] make app from folder - patch not loaded.

2009-07-08 Thread Ignacio Viano
You are right. I've always used ../FOLDER/FILE reference and didn't realize
that it could be done just like FILE. It's time to modify some patches.

As for the bug report, I was not allowed to do it. I get this error:

Error - Choose a Group
 ERROR - No group_id was chosen.
But I am choosing a category (pd-extended) and a group (v0.41)!

This is funny: problems when reporting problems when reporting problems…just
like the problem I want to report.

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[PD] playing a sample / mac

2009-07-08 Thread Alexandre Bräutigam

Hi there!
I'm using a simple sfplay patch to play a wav's sample. The open message box 
is: [ open pedra1.wav l ] because the pd file and this sound file are in the 
same directory. Using this patch in a XP computer, it works. When I try to do 
the same in a macbook, we hear no sound and everytime I bang the open message 
box, it says: error: sfplay: can't open pedra1.wav 
What's wrong?
Does mac's pd needs some extra information on that open box?
I'm using pd-extended 0.40.3 on both.
Thanks !
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Re: [PD] playing a sample / mac

2009-07-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig

Alexandre Bräutigam wrote:

Hi there!
I'm using a simple sfplay patch to play a wav's sample. The open message box is: [ open pedra1.wav l ] because the pd file and this sound file are in the same directory. Using this patch in a XP computer, it works. When I try to do the same in a macbook, we hear no sound and everytime I bang the open message box, it says: error: sfplay: can't open pedra1.wav 
What's wrong?



why would you use [sfplay] when there is [readsf~]?
the latter is an external which has not been updated in years, the 
former is a often-used object in Pd-vanilla (and will thus work on 
pretty much any Pd installation you will find over the world)


fgam,sdr
IOhannes


Does mac's pd needs some extra information on that open box?
I'm using pd-extended 0.40.3 on both.




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Re: [PD] Sysex out problems (linux only)

2009-07-08 Thread András Murányi
2009/7/8 Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca

 András Murányi wrote:

 Dear Sirs,

 I just have never been successful with sysex in Pd and I'm asking for your
 kind advice.
 Attached is an example for a long sysex message which goes out on
 [midiout] (linux only, afaik).
 The problems I have:
 - sysex gets fragmented (also when nothing is sent out meanwhile by other
 objects). It is always properly terminated with '247' but the content is
 often truncated. Is this a bug/feature...? What is your best recommendation
 knowing that my patch is full of sysex outs (+envelopes on some of them!)


 in the patch you posted, the message you send to [midiout] is
 [240,67,16,73,8,$2,19,$1,247(
 , which Pd takes as 9 separate messages because of the comma in between
 each item.
 Probably [240 67 16 73 8 $2 19 $1 247( would work better.


Dear Martin,

that is how it goes afaik, sysex is kind of a sequence, which is comma
separated
as discussed here: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-417-sysex

I just cannot prove it as i have never seen sysex out working :o)

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Re: [PD] Sysex out problems (linux only)

2009-07-08 Thread Martin Peach

András Murányi wrote:
2009/7/8 Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca 
mailto:martin.pe...@sympatico.ca


András Murányi wrote:

Dear Sirs,

I just have never been successful with sysex in Pd and I'm
asking for your kind advice.
Attached is an example for a long sysex message which goes out
on [midiout] (linux only, afaik).
The problems I have:
- sysex gets fragmented (also when nothing is sent out meanwhile
by other objects). It is always properly terminated with '247'
but the content is often truncated. Is this a bug/feature...?
What is your best recommendation knowing that my patch is full
of sysex outs (+envelopes on some of them!)


in the patch you posted, the message you send to [midiout] is
[240,67,16,73,8,$2,19,$1,247(
, which Pd takes as 9 separate messages because of the comma in
between each item.
Probably [240 67 16 73 8 $2 19 $1 247( would work better.


Dear Martin,

that is how it goes afaik, sysex is kind of a sequence, which is comma 
separated


Yes and no: sysex is a sequence that starts with the value 240 (hex F0) 
followed by a number of bytes, each less than 128, and ends with 247 
(hex F7). There are no commas in it unless the message contains commas. 
(If you really want to send commas you would need to specify the ASCII 
code for a comma, 44.)
As far as Pd goes, separating items in a message box makes them into 
separate messages, so it's no surprise they get sent out separately.


Martin

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Re: [PD] Sysex out problems (linux only)

2009-07-08 Thread Alex
I think that pd's midi out doesn't take whole sysex messages though,
you simply send a stream of bytes.  This is how it has been working
for me.  I created an abstraction which takes a list of bytes and
makes it into a sysex message (stream of bytes) [adds the sysex start
and start and then outputs bytes one by one] and it works quite well
for me.

I've attached it just as an example.

Btw, the sysex loopback code [using the software through] that you
sent initially does work for me.. I get the whole message.

-Alex

2009/7/8 Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca:
 András Murányi wrote:

 2009/7/8 Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca
 mailto:martin.pe...@sympatico.ca

    András Murányi wrote:

        Dear Sirs,

        I just have never been successful with sysex in Pd and I'm
        asking for your kind advice.
        Attached is an example for a long sysex message which goes out
        on [midiout] (linux only, afaik).
        The problems I have:
        - sysex gets fragmented (also when nothing is sent out meanwhile
        by other objects). It is always properly terminated with '247'
        but the content is often truncated. Is this a bug/feature...?
        What is your best recommendation knowing that my patch is full
        of sysex outs (+envelopes on some of them!)


    in the patch you posted, the message you send to [midiout] is
    [240,67,16,73,8,$2,19,$1,247(
    , which Pd takes as 9 separate messages because of the comma in
    between each item.
    Probably [240 67 16 73 8 $2 19 $1 247( would work better.


 Dear Martin,

 that is how it goes afaik, sysex is kind of a sequence, which is comma
 separated

 Yes and no: sysex is a sequence that starts with the value 240 (hex F0)
 followed by a number of bytes, each less than 128, and ends with 247 (hex
 F7). There are no commas in it unless the message contains commas. (If you
 really want to send commas you would need to specify the ASCII code for a
 comma, 44.)
 As far as Pd goes, separating items in a message box makes them into
 separate messages, so it's no surprise they get sent out separately.

 Martin

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[PD] midifile object

2009-07-08 Thread Andres Ferrari

hello,
the martin peach's object midifile has 3 outlets,

the first outlet output a list with 3 numbers:

xxx,note,velocity

what is xxx ???

thanks!!

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Re: [PD] midifile object

2009-07-08 Thread Alex
I'm not 100% but if I were to guess I'd say xxx would be midi channel.

-Alex

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Andres Ferrarian...@yahoo.com wrote:

 hello,
 the martin peach's object midifile has 3 outlets,

 the first outlet output a list with 3 numbers:

 xxx,note,velocity

 what is xxx ???

 thanks!!

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Re: [PD] midifile object

2009-07-08 Thread Lao Yu
sysex has no channel being a system and not a channel message, as far  
as I know. The first value should by in hex 'f0' meaning start of  
sysex. the 2nd byte which in some software appears at the channel# is  
the manufacturer id ($01 for sequential circuits, $04 for Moog, $11  
for Apple, for example).

but it is all on the MIDI site, no?

Best
Jurgen

On Jul 9, 2009, at 2:06 AM, Alex wrote:


I'm not 100% but if I were to guess I'd say xxx would be midi channel.

-Alex

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Andres Ferrarian...@yahoo.com  
wrote:


hello,
the martin peach's object midifile has 3 outlets,

the first outlet output a list with 3 numbers:

xxx,note,velocity

what is xxx ???

thanks!!

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Re: [PD] midifile object

2009-07-08 Thread Alex
I think you're thinking about a different thread, here he is talking
about the midifile object where he specifically mentions notes.  I
haven't used the midifile object though so i'm simply guessing based
on the message: xxx, note value, velocity which he mentioned

-Alex

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Lao Yunoise@gmail.com wrote:
 sysex has no channel being a system and not a channel message, as far as I
 know. The first value should by in hex 'f0' meaning start of sysex. the 2nd
 byte which in some software appears at the channel# is the manufacturer id
 ($01 for sequential circuits, $04 for Moog, $11 for Apple, for example).
 but it is all on the MIDI site, no?

 Best
 Jurgen

 On Jul 9, 2009, at 2:06 AM, Alex wrote:

 I'm not 100% but if I were to guess I'd say xxx would be midi channel.

 -Alex

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Andres Ferrarian...@yahoo.com wrote:

 hello,
 the martin peach's object midifile has 3 outlets,

 the first outlet output a list with 3 numbers:

 xxx,note,velocity

 what is xxx ???

 thanks!!

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Re: [PD] playing a sample / mac

2009-07-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

 Alexandre Bräutigam wrote:
 Hi there!
 I'm using a simple sfplay patch to play a wav's sample. The open 
 message box is: [ open pedra1.wav l ] because the pd file and this 
 sound file are in the same directory. Using this patch in a XP 
 computer, it works. When I try to do the same in a macbook, we hear no 
 sound and everytime I bang the open message box, it says: error: 
 sfplay: can't open pedra1.wav What's wrong?

 why would you use [sfplay] when there is [readsf~]?
 the latter is an external which has not been updated in years, the  
 former is a often-used object in Pd-vanilla (and will thus work on  
 pretty much any Pd installation you will find over the world)

Just for clarity: I think you've confounded latter and former here. sfplay~
is old and cranky, readsf~ is shiny and pure vanilla. :)

Ciao
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Re: [PD] midifile object

2009-07-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:

 Here's what c_seqplay deals with:
 
 144 + channel = note on;
 128 + channel = note off;

Whoops: I just spotted a documentation bug here! It's reverse of course:

128 + channel = note on;
144 + channel = note off;

Ciao
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Re: [PD] midifile object

2009-07-08 Thread Martin Peach

Andres Ferrari wrote:

hello,
the martin peach's object midifile has 3 outlets,

the first outlet output a list with 3 numbers:

xxx,note,velocity

what is xxx ???



It's the MIDI status byte. For example the note on status on channel 1 
is 144 (hex 90). Channel 2 would be 145, etc.

See for example:
http://www.ibiblio.org/emusic-l/info-docs-FAQs/MIDI-doc/MIDI-Statusbytes.txt

Martin


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Re: [PD] playing a sample / mac

2009-07-08 Thread Martin Peach

Frank Barknecht wrote:

Hallo,
IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:


Alexandre Bräutigam wrote:

Hi there!
I'm using a simple sfplay patch to play a wav's sample. The open 
message box is: [ open pedra1.wav l ] because the pd file and this 
sound file are in the same directory. Using this patch in a XP 
computer, it works. When I try to do the same in a macbook, we hear no 
sound and everytime I bang the open message box, it says: error: 
sfplay: can't open pedra1.wav What's wrong?

why would you use [sfplay] when there is [readsf~]?
the latter is an external which has not been updated in years, the  
former is a often-used object in Pd-vanilla (and will thus work on  
pretty much any Pd installation you will find over the world)


Just for clarity: I think you've confounded latter and former here. sfplay~
is old and cranky, readsf~ is shiny and pure vanilla. :)


Maybe someone could add 'deprecated' to the [sfplay] help file, and also 
suggest [readsf~] instead. Or maybe a selector matrix for all the 
different file loader/players so one could compare capabilities.
They all look shiny on my screen, but most of them are cranky too, in 
that they never seem to know what I want to do with them ;)


Martin


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Re: [PD] midifile object

2009-07-08 Thread Martin Peach

Frank Barknecht wrote:

Hallo,
Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:


Here's what c_seqplay deals with:

144 + channel = note on;
128 + channel = note off;


Whoops: I just spotted a documentation bug here! It's reverse of course:

128 + channel = note on;
144 + channel = note off;



No, you had it right the first time...128 is off.

Martin

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Re: [PD] Pd Tutorial redesigned

2009-07-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Yves, you could write a tutorial too, instead of giving people on the  
list a hard time.  Why should anyone write a tutorial the way you want  
it?  Be punk rock, and do it yourself.


.hc

On Jul 5, 2009, at 12:24 PM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:


the meaning of that
( como unos son un poco espesos aki )
is that it's sad to think that there will be
only one pd tutorial
registered at www.pd-tutorial.com!
that's what will come up on google,
and of course this tutorial doesn't cover
many things of pd, hem...

it seems to me there were more of them
in the user space of the wiki...
http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/
( at least this one had an s )

but it's a general trend in pd community,
hierarchy got in the place..
anarchy? no that's only diversity, sir...

pd : about the college jokes of a D.H.,
is that the same guy who refuses to document
any FLOSS than runs only in Linux?
that all should run on Windows?
i just don't want to know.



On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:34 AM, ydego...@gmail.com mailto:ydego...@gmail.com 
 ydego...@gmail.com mailto:ydego...@gmail.com wrote:


   gosh, looks like a .com out there,
   is that the only way to make music with pd?

   let's say if i hate sequencers,
   reverbs and effects?

   sevy





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Re: [PD] midifile object

2009-07-08 Thread Alex
I made my own little help file which pulls the messages apart a little
bit more..
I've attached it.

-Alex

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Martin Peachmartin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 Frank Barknecht wrote:

 Hallo,
 Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:

 Here's what c_seqplay deals with:

 144 + channel = note on;
 128 + channel = note off;

 Whoops: I just spotted a documentation bug here! It's reverse of course:

 128 + channel = note on;
 144 + channel = note off;


 No, you had it right the first time...128 is off.

 Martin

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Re: [PD] workshop in Boston August 1st

2009-07-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes

After reading the page, I would assume the instructor is requiring 
the students who need the extra hour for installation to use the oses 
for which he has expertise (notice that both Linux and also Vista may 
not be used).

It's not totally clear, but I can't imagine he's forbidding students 
to make use of a linux laptop during the rest of his tutorial.

-Jonathan

--- On Wed, 7/8/09, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [PD] workshop in Boston August 1st
 To: chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com
 Cc: PD list pd-list@iem.at
 Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 6:18 AM
 perfect you don't answer,
 
 40 dollars and forbidden to use linux?
 no thank you, man
 
 ydego...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Laptops running Linux cannot be used.  !!
  
  i'd like to know why?
  something missing on linux?
  
  chris clepper wrote:
  I am doing a basic Pd workshop in the Boston area
 on August 1st at Axiom Gallery.  I will be covering
 simple patching, audio and GEM.  The optional first
 hour will be dedicated to setting up the participant's
 laptops with Pd and getting audio and MIDI working. 
 Space is limited to 12 and you must register online.
  
  Details on this page:
  http://www.axiomart.org/events.php
  
  I hope to do a more advanced video/GEM workshop in
 the coming months as well.
  
  Chris
 
 
  
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Re: [PD] midifile object

2009-07-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Martin Peach hat gesagt: // Martin Peach wrote:

 Frank Barknecht wrote:
 Hallo,
 Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:

 Here's what c_seqplay deals with:

 144 + channel = note on;
 128 + channel = note off;

 Whoops: I just spotted a documentation bug here! It's reverse of course:

 128 + channel = note on;
 144 + channel = note off;

 No, you had it right the first time...128 is off.

Ah, damn. :) 

Well, then it's worse: The patch is wrong, not the doc. Will fix ASAP.

Ciao
-- 
Frank

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