Re: [PD] problem loading libraries
thanks Derek ! it works. loic On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote: If you really have no idea what you did, it's best to remove every copy of org.puredata.pd.plist in your system before trying to reinstall. Check in /User/your user name/Library/Preferences as well as /Library/Preferences Since both of these locations aren't in the .app folder, trashing the app won't fix the problem. More info: http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/AdvancedConfig Best, Derek loic kessous wrote: Hi, When I start pd-extended I don't see anymore the load of the libraries, and the externals are not loaded (as for example in the patch I try to make work, dumpOSC, but also abstraction as some from the mapping library) I maybe change something in the path or startup stuff as I was trying to fix something before I tried to move to trash pd and pd-extended and to download a fresh version but it didn't work... I'm on a mac mini ppc g4, and I use Pd-0.41.4-extended-macosx104-powerpc please help -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 171: Use your own ideas ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] smartphone advice
The only real missing piece is the audio I/O, but that is not too hard to do. Ideally, the rjdj crew would release their audio I/O code to be included in Pd-vanilla and we should share the work of maintenance and improvements. But that's not the only way to get it done. I'm here at Mobile Art Code talking with Memo Akten and Zach Gage, the two openFrameworks/iPhone developers, and they have open source audio code that should be pretty easy to plug into Pd. SuperCollider has been ported to the iPhone too, but I haven't been able to find that code. as I understood, openframeworks is using rtAudio, which is certainly a good choice, as it is designed for real-time. But why portaudio (the current audio implementation in pd if I'm right) would not work on an iPhone ? loic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Ardour Workshop + FLOSS Manuals Book Sprint, 23-27.11.09 Rotterdam NL
File under: tangentally related to Pure Data ;-) --- Ardour Workshop + FLOSS Manuals Book Sprint Hosted by: moddr_lab/WORM, FLOSS Manuals and Derek Holzer Monday 23 November to Friday 27 November, 2009 Day session: 13:00-17:00 (GMT +1) Evening session: 18:00-22:00 (GMT +1) Location (physical): moddr_lab, Willem Buytewechstraat 188, Rotterdam, the Netherlands Location (online): http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Ardour/ Introduction to FLOSS Manuals by Adam Hyde 21.00, Friday 20 Nov at WORM, Achterhaven 148, Rotterdam http://agenda.wormweb.nl/agenda.php?id=2888 Ardour is a full-featured, free and open-source hard disk recorder and digital audio workstation software suitable for professional use. New and experienced users of Ardour are invited to learn by documenting during this combination workshop and book sprint. A book sprint brings together a group of writers, editors and artists to go from an outline to a published book in just five days. We will use this format to give workshop participants tasks which they will learn to complete in Ardour, and which they will then document for the Ardour FLOSS Manual. This is an exciting opportunity both to acquire new skills as well as share them with others in the form of a book! The workshop will be split into two sessions: an evening session focusing on learning the software and creating chapters for the FLOSS Manual, and an afternoon session focusing on editing, proofreading and correcting the workshop texts. At the end of the week, we hope to have a beginner's manual covering these and other topics: Introduction: What is Ardour? Installing Jack Qjackctl: Linux Installing JackOSX: OSX Installing Ardour: Linux Installing Ardour: OSX Installing Jamin: Linux Installing Jamin: OSX Getting Started: the user interface Getting Started: using JACK to interface with the soundcard and other applications Audio Tutorial: editing and arranging existing audio Audio Tutorial: multitrack recording with the soundcard Audio Tutorial: multitrack recording with other applications Audio Tutorial: using automation Audio Tutorial: using LADSPA and VST plugins Audio Tutorial: mixing down tracks Audio Tutorial: mastering with Jamin Audio Tutorial: exporting to file and CD etc etc Participants who would like to join us in Rotterdam should sign up via: works...@moddr.net Interested remote participants should create a login on the Ardour FLOSS Manual page: http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Ardour/ and communicate with us via the FLOSS Manuals chat interface on the website or at: irc.freenode.net #flossmanuals during the working times listed. Further info/references: Ardour: http://ardour.org/ Ardour reference manual (in progress): http://vm-nice.stackingdwarves.net:/ardour-en/1-ARDOUR.html Ardour reviewed by Kim Cascone: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/08/04/linux-music-workflow-switching-from-mac-os-x-to-ubuntu-with-kim-cascone/ Old Ardour tutorial (cached): http://tinyurl.com/ardour-tutorial FLOSS Manuals: http://en.flossmanuals.net/ moddr_lab: http://moddr.net/ WORM: http://wormweb.nl/ Derek Holzer: http://umatic.nl/info_derek.html -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 81: Go to an extreme, move back to a more comfortable place ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tab-abs
Hi, you should check into /pd/extra/iem_tab Raf - Original Message - From: Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com To: PD-List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:04 AM Subject: [PD] tab-abs Hello, I think this has been proposed before, so maybe I've missed it. Is there a library of abstractions for operations on tables akin to list-abs? If not, I'd like to consider how such a library might be organized A lot of the list-abs abstractions could be translated and used for tables. I could imagine for instance abstractions that would fill tables with various kinds of windows, and some that would implement such windows in a named table within the abstraction itself. Also, there might be abstractions that would perform the operations in-place, and some that would leave the source table intact and copy the results into another table. Etc. Has this been developed and/or discussed already? I would have a few to contribute. Matt ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] smartphone advice
On Nov 8, 2009, at 3:59 AM, loic kessous wrote: The only real missing piece is the audio I/O, but that is not too hard to do. Ideally, the rjdj crew would release their audio I/O code to be included in Pd-vanilla and we should share the work of maintenance and improvements. But that's not the only way to get it done. I'm here at Mobile Art Code talking with Memo Akten and Zach Gage, the two openFrameworks/iPhone developers, and they have open source audio code that should be pretty easy to plug into Pd. SuperCollider has been ported to the iPhone too, but I haven't been able to find that code. as I understood, openframeworks is using rtAudio, which is certainly a good choice, as it is designed for real-time. But why portaudio (the current audio implementation in pd if I'm right) would not work on an iPhone ? loic The iPhone uses the AudioQueue API for sound I/O, which portaudio does not support. .hc Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hosting
Could be GIT or something. maybe being a mirror of the info that is actually at puredata.info 2009/11/8 errordevelo...@gmail.com Hello Fabio, it could be fabulous to get have a stand-alone host for pd community could be great! then we could have it as central SVN (or may be even bazar?) independent from sf.net ;) and some pretty web interface with some documentation and comments on how the abstractions and externals are actually working @:) basically SVN web-vier with discussion etc .. ;) also various projects could make their oun page too ;}~ On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 04:51:20PM +0100, mbutubuntu wrote: Hello folks, I'm Fabio Buda and I recently started to work with hosting; I support OpenSource and FreeSoftware and I'm offering free hosting+DB services to opensource projects or communities, are puredata community interested in it? Best Regards, Fabio Buda +39 338 9423302 http://www.netd.it ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] build 64 bit again ...
On 11/08/2009 04:14 AM, András Murányi wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com mailto:danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, 64 bit Ubuntu Karmic So I have a script to grab pd-extended and build a package ... but still the same weird table bugs as the last time I tried. The Analog Sequencer example sounds aliased and higher pitched. I made sure to force the CFLAGS to -m64, but the pd binary itself still has this issue. The 64 bit puredata Ubuntu package does not have this problem. hi Dan, for me it was -fPIC had i had to insert at some places (no -m64) and at the and everything compiled successfully on my AMD, from these sources: svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/ pure-data cd pure-data svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.42/pd svn co https://pd-gem.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pd-gem/branches/0.92/Gem Andras I didn't have a problem compiling ... it's just that the table bug is not resolved in pd-extended 0.41.4. Using the current svn as you suggest also compiles fine and gives me a pd without the table bug ... but now I have the bleeding edge, as-yet unfinished gui sigh. Is there a patch for the pd-extended 0.41.4 pd source for the table bug? That's all I really need right now as I can build the externals ok. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] using pix_mix to mix past images with present
Le samedi 07 novembre 2009 à 19:39 -0600, John Harrison a écrit : Hmm. This worked for you? I get a seg fault with your patch when I click on [create, 1(. I could get it to start w/out a seg fault by disconnecting the [t a b ] from the [gemlist], then clicking on the [create, 1( then reconnecting [t a b] to [gemlist], but then it doesn't work. I only see what is coming from the camera and not any sort of mix. No errors reported either. Yep, all works fine here. Actually you needn't [pix_separator] in my patch. What I am suspecting and what I thought your patch might also be showing is that I need 2 rendering chains to use [pix_mix] and that having the images to mix in separate buffers but from the same rendering chain is not sufficient. Yep, it seems there is a strange behaviour with [pix_mix] and [pix_delay] from the same rendering chain. (That's why i use a [gemlist] object to avoid this problem.) If someone know why ? ++ Jack But I'm not sure why that would be the case for a pix_ object so I could also be making up random rules for stuff I don't understand --- thus my initial question. So basically I have a solution as I show in my original patch I sent. But I'm looking for the why now. I'm running Gem 0.91.3 and Pd 0.41.3 extended on Jaunty. Thanks, -John On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote: What about this ? ++ Jack Le samedi 07 novembre 2009 à 07:32 -0600, John Harrison a écrit : I wanted to mix past images with present images from a webcam using pix_mix. Attached is a patch that successfully does this using pix_buffer and fails to do this using pix_delay. My question is, why doesn't pix_delay work with pix_mix in my patch? How woulld I change my patch to get pix_delay to get the same results as pix_buffer does? Thanks, -John -- John http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tab-abs
Ah, yes, thanks! I've said it before -- one of my favorite things about list-abs is their use in pedagogy -- you can get under the hood in them with music students and they don't have to learn C to do it (each of the list-abs objects could be written much more efficiently in C but it's nice to have them as abstractions, and vanilla abstractions at that). These iem_tab objects are great as far as use-within-a-patch is concerned, though, so again thanks. Maybe I'll make my own abstractions for pedagogy. Matt 2009/11/8 Raphaël Isdant raphael.isd...@free.fr: Hi, you should check into /pd/extra/iem_tab Raf - Original Message - From: Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com To: PD-List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:04 AM Subject: [PD] tab-abs Hello, I think this has been proposed before, so maybe I've missed it. Is there a library of abstractions for operations on tables akin to list-abs? If not, I'd like to consider how such a library might be organized A lot of the list-abs abstractions could be translated and used for tables. I could imagine for instance abstractions that would fill tables with various kinds of windows, and some that would implement such windows in a named table within the abstraction itself. Also, there might be abstractions that would perform the operations in-place, and some that would leave the source table intact and copy the results into another table. Etc. Has this been developed and/or discussed already? I would have a few to contribute. Matt ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] arduino melody example in PD?
That sketch is playing a tune making square waves of different frequencies. That's not really the same as PWM, which varies the length of the pulse, but the frequency stays constant. There are a few ways to generate a square wave of a given freq. in Pd, if that is your goal. If you want to do it by modeling the Arduino's use of a timer to turn a signal on and off, that might be an interesting exercise. One easier way, though, would be to amplify and clip a sine wave. [osc~ 440] | [*~ 50] | [clip~ -0.5 0.5] then if you plug a 50 cent piezo buzzer into the sound card of your $1000 laptop, it will sound just like a $3 avr! Then you could store the note durations and frequencies in 2 separate arrays, like in the Arduino sketch, where the freq is sent to the [osc~] and the duration is sent to a [delay] that sends a bang to a counter that increments to the next array elements. Then it will play Twinkle, twinkle, and what could be better than that! Collin Message: 6 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:59:36 +0100 From: altern alte...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] arduino melody example in PD? To: the PureData - mailinglist pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 4af5edc8.6040...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed hi i have been trying to port this example to PD http://arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/Melody it just uses a piezo to buzz a song. i dont understand very well this PWM controls and also I am finding quite difficult to translate the arduino code to PD. So after some headache i thought maybe someone has already done this for PD? thanks enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] arduino melody example in PD?
That sketch is playing a tune making square waves of different frequencies. That's not really the same as PWM, which varies the length of the pulse, but the frequency stays constant. There are a few ways to generate a square wave of a given freq. in Pd, if that is your goal. If you want to do it by modeling the Arduino's use of a timer to turn a signal on and off, that might be an interesting exercise. One easier way, though, would be to amplify and clip a sine wave. [osc~ 440] | [*~ 50] | [clip~ -0.5 0.5] then if you plug a 50 cent piezo buzzer into the sound card of your $1000 laptop, it will sound just like a $3 avr! hehe... thanks for your suggestion :) enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tab-abs
I would encourage it!
A Pd-vanilla approach to table manipulations is sadly lacking, and list-abs
is a beautiful API to adhere to.
I'm sure that many rj-dj programmers wouldn't mind something like this...
~Kyle
2009/11/8 Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com
Ah, yes, thanks! I've said it before -- one of my favorite things
about list-abs is their use in pedagogy -- you can get under the
hood in them with music students and they don't have to learn C to do
it (each of the list-abs objects could be written much more
efficiently in C but it's nice to have them as abstractions, and
vanilla abstractions at that). These iem_tab objects are great as far
as use-within-a-patch is concerned, though, so again thanks. Maybe
I'll make my own abstractions for pedagogy.
Matt
2009/11/8 Raphaël Isdant raphael.isd...@free.fr:
Hi, you should check into /pd/extra/iem_tab
Raf
- Original Message - From: Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com
To: PD-List pd-list@iem.at
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:04 AM
Subject: [PD] tab-abs
Hello,
I think this has been proposed before, so maybe I've missed it. Is
there a library of abstractions for operations on tables akin to
list-abs? If not, I'd like to consider how such a library might be
organized A lot of the list-abs abstractions could be translated and
used for tables. I could imagine for instance abstractions that would
fill tables with various kinds of windows, and some that would
implement such windows in a named table within the abstraction itself.
Also, there might be abstractions that would perform the operations
in-place, and some that would leave the source table intact and copy
the results into another table. Etc.
Has this been developed and/or discussed already? I would have a few
to contribute.
Matt
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Re: [PD] GridFlow 0.9.6 for Mac OS X
Confirmed. I downloaded the latest Pd-extended release and GridFlow runs an
example patch!
Nice work, I've been waiting for this for years.
~Kyle
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Reason: Incompatible library version: gridflow.pd_darwin requires
version 36.0.0 or later, but libpng12.0.dylib provides version 30.0.0
error: [import]: ERROR: can't load library in 'gridflow'
What version of Pd-extended are you using ? I made the package
referring to what libs were distributed with the most recent release
(0.41.4)...
~/ p...@banshee$ otool -L
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/lib/libpng12.0.dylib
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/lib/libpng12.0.dylib:
@executable_path/../../lib/libpng12.0.dylib (compatibility version
36.0.0, current version 36.0.0)
/usr/lib/libz.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version
1.2.3)
/usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 1.0.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
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[PD] max externals to pd port
hello list i have set up a download site at http://www.komika.org for externals which read and play back timecoded vinyl (at the moment only traktor scratch vinyl is supported). These externals are written for Max/MSP. I am wondering if anybody is interested to port those externals to PD. - - - - - - - - - - - www.komika.org - - - - - - - - - - - ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GridFlow 0.9.6 for Mac OS X
running for me too! although... when i mouse over the gridflow [#out window] i get the spinning beach ball - this is in all example patches, so obviously the I am running 10.6. Well aware this is compiled for 10.4, could this be the problem? m --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] GridFlow 0.9.6 for Mac OS X To: Patrick Boivin pboi...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:32 PM Confirmed. I downloaded the latest Pd-extended release and GridFlow runs an example patch! Nice work, I've been waiting for this for years. ~Kyle On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Patrick Boivin pboi...@gmail.com wrote: Reason: Incompatible library version: gridflow.pd_darwin requires version 36.0.0 or later, but libpng12.0.dylib provides version 30.0.0 error: [import]: ERROR: can't load library in 'gridflow' What version of Pd-extended are you using ? I made the package referring to what libs were distributed with the most recent release (0.41.4)... ~/ p...@banshee$ otool -L /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/lib/libpng12.0.dylib /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/lib/libpng12.0.dylib: �...@executable_path/../../lib/libpng12.0.dylib (compatibility version 36.0.0, current version 36.0.0) /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.2.3) /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 88.3.11) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- - - - -- http://plenum.tumblr.com http://myspace.com/plenummusic -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GridFlow 0.9.6 for Mac OS X
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, mark edward grimm wrote: although... when i mouse over the gridflow [#out window] i get the spinning beach ball - this is in all example patches, so obviously the When I wrote the window code for OSX, I couldn't get it to work, and then James Tittle fixed the bugs so that it starts displaying pixels, but he didn't fix those bugs. That was in 2004 or so. No-one has worked on that module ever since... (except for keeping it in sync with changes in gridflow.h) I am running 10.6. Well aware this is compiled for 10.4, could this be the problem? No, I had this problem back when I made this code for 10.2 in 2003 or 2004. (I don't seem to be an OSX programmer.) _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] compiling externals on snow leopard
I've been trying to get my externals to compile in to use with Pd-extended... in OS X Snow Leopard. So far it hasn't been easy because Pd-extended is i386 and my externals are compiling as x86_64. All I can find on this is to force the build to i386 with the gcc flag '-arch i386', but the linker won't allow it: ld: warning: in incr.o, file is not of required architecture and then, I again have the 64 bit version: $ file incr.pd_darwin incr.pd_darwin: Mach-O 64-bit bundle x86_64 Anyone know how to get these guys to work with Pd-extended? Rich ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] compiling externals on snow leopard
and then, I again have the 64 bit version: $ file incr.pd_darwin incr.pd_darwin: Mach-O 64-bit bundle x86_64 in snow leopard i compile externals in .d_fat, but I'm in x86_64... Anyone know how to get these guys to work with Pd-extended? Rich ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Jaime E Oliver LR joliv...@ucsd.edu www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 858 750 0924 (cel) 858 202 1522 (home) 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] compiling externals on snow leopard
You need to set the LDFLAGS to -arch i386 also. Or even better, try doing a 64-bit Snow Leopard build of Pd-extended. .hc On Nov 8, 2009, at 6:58 PM, Rich E wrote: I've been trying to get my externals to compile in to use with Pd- extended... in OS X Snow Leopard. So far it hasn't been easy because Pd-extended is i386 and my externals are compiling as x86_64. All I can find on this is to force the build to i386 with the gcc flag '-arch i386', but the linker won't allow it: ld: warning: in incr.o, file is not of required architecture and then, I again have the 64 bit version: $ file incr.pd_darwin incr.pd_darwin: Mach-O 64-bit bundle x86_64 Anyone know how to get these guys to work with Pd-extended? Rich ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I hate it when they say, He gave his life for his country. Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. - Admiral Gene LeRocque ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] build 64 bit again ...
On Nov 8, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote: On 11/08/2009 04:14 AM, András Murányi wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, 64 bit Ubuntu Karmic So I have a script to grab pd-extended and build a package ... but still the same weird table bugs as the last time I tried. The Analog Sequencer example sounds aliased and higher pitched. I made sure to force the CFLAGS to -m64, but the pd binary itself still has this issue. The 64 bit puredata Ubuntu package does not have this problem. hi Dan, for me it was -fPIC had i had to insert at some places (no -m64) and at the and everything compiled successfully on my AMD, from these sources: svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/ trunk/ pure-data cd pure-data svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.42/pd svn co https://pd-gem.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pd-gem/branches/0.92/Gem Andras I didn't have a problem compiling ... it's just that the table bug is not resolved in pd-extended 0.41.4. Using the current svn as you suggest also compiles fine and gives me a pd without the table bug ... but now I have the bleeding edge, as-yet unfinished gui sigh. Is there a patch for the pd-extended 0.41.4 pd source for the table bug? That's all I really need right now as I can build the externals ok. Try Pd-extended 0.42.5. There are nightly builds, or get the source via rsync or svn. .hc I hate it when they say, He gave his life for his country. Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. - Admiral Gene LeRocque ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD/GEM examples
In case you're interested here's the workshop outline (which is also just a bunch of links). It has a few collected examples at the top there if you ever need to copy/paste some: http://grauwald.com/workshops/pd/ The history section is a bit vague in places. Earliest mention I can find of Mark Dank's GEM is from 1998... is this really true? Pioneering. On Nov 6, 2009, at 7:13 PM, Joseph Gray wrote: Hello, Cornish College of the Arts has invited me to teach a brief and very introductory workshop in Pure Data in their art department on Monday. Wondering if anyone on this list would have any suggestions of works to present to give the students an idea of what the software is capable of and how it can be applied, particularly from a sculptural/installation/video art perspective. Any or all suggestions are welcome. Best, Joseph Gray http://grauwald.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] emulating the behaviour of a midi keyboard: trouble with repeated notes
hi, i'm working on a little project in which some notes with random pitches and duration appear at random time intervals. Each note is packed in a midi format (pitch and velocity), with a note-off event (pitch and zero velocity) sent after the note duration interval. it can happen that a new note is generated before the previous one has been stopped.That's not a trouble, since i can handle it with [poly], eventually set to 1 voice and with voice stealing to force a monophonic melody. The problem appears if the new note coming has the same pitch than the previous one. This is impossible for a real midi keyboard, in fact a key can be played again only after it has been released. This leads to an undesired behaviour of [poly]: if there are more than 1 voice, i have the sum of different voices playing the same note, with an undesiderd increase of the volume. Even worse, when the voice is only one, the note-off message of the previous note stops the new note before its assigned time duration! I tried to set up a strategy to avoid this, but with no results. Any idea? thanks, athos ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] emulating the behaviour of a midi keyboard: trouble with repeated notes
Try researching edge detection.
~Kyle
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Athos Bacchiocchi
athos.bacchioc...@tin.itwrote:
hi,
i'm working on a little project in which some notes with random pitches and
duration appear at random time intervals. Each note is packed in a midi
format (pitch and velocity), with a note-off event (pitch and zero velocity)
sent after the note duration interval.
it can happen that a new note is generated before the previous one has
been stopped.That's not a trouble, since i can handle it with [poly],
eventually set to 1 voice and with voice stealing to force a monophonic
melody.
The problem appears if the new note coming has the same pitch than the
previous one. This is impossible for a real midi keyboard, in fact a key
can be played again only after it has been released.
This leads to an undesired behaviour of [poly]: if there are more than 1
voice, i have the sum of different voices playing the same note, with an
undesiderd increase of the volume. Even worse, when the voice is only one,
the note-off message of the previous note stops the new note before its
assigned time duration!
I tried to set up a strategy to avoid this, but with no results. Any idea?
thanks,
athos
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Re: [PD] emulating the behaviour of a midi keyboard: trouble with repeated notes
Sorry, did not read that deep enough the first time.
Wish I could help more, but I can't.
~Kyle
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote:
Try researching edge detection.
~Kyle
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Athos Bacchiocchi
athos.bacchioc...@tin.it wrote:
hi,
i'm working on a little project in which some notes with random pitches
and duration appear at random time intervals. Each note is packed in a
midi format (pitch and velocity), with a note-off event (pitch and zero
velocity) sent after the note duration interval.
it can happen that a new note is generated before the previous one has
been stopped.That's not a trouble, since i can handle it with [poly],
eventually set to 1 voice and with voice stealing to force a monophonic
melody.
The problem appears if the new note coming has the same pitch than the
previous one. This is impossible for a real midi keyboard, in fact a key
can be played again only after it has been released.
This leads to an undesired behaviour of [poly]: if there are more than 1
voice, i have the sum of different voices playing the same note, with an
undesiderd increase of the volume. Even worse, when the voice is only one,
the note-off message of the previous note stops the new note before its
assigned time duration!
I tried to set up a strategy to avoid this, but with no results. Any
idea?
thanks,
athos
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Re: [PD] emulating the behaviour of a midi keyboard: trouble with repeated notes
I would try and catch this before your [makenote] is triggered (assuming you're using [makenote]) Maybe something like this: [random 127] | [t f f] [r oldnote] | | | | [!= ] | | [spigot] | [t f f] | | | [s oldnote] | [makenote] .mmb Athos Bacchiocchi wrote: hi, i'm working on a little project in which some notes with random pitches and duration appear at random time intervals. Each note is packed in a "midi" format (pitch and velocity), with a note-off event (pitch and zero velocity) sent after the note duration interval. it can happen that a new note is generated before the previous one has been stopped.That's not a trouble, since i can handle it with [poly], eventually set to 1 voice and with voice stealing to force a "monophonic" melody. The problem appears if the new note coming has the same pitch than the previous one. This is impossible for a "real" midi keyboard, in fact a key can be played again only after it has been released. This leads to an undesired behaviour of [poly]: if there are more than 1 voice, i have the sum of different voices playing the same note, with an undesiderd increase of the volume. Even worse, when the voice is only one, the note-off message of the previous note stops the new note before its assigned time duration! I tried to set up a strategy to avoid this, but with no results. Any idea? thanks, athos ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] emulating the behaviour of a midi keyboard: trouble with repeated notes
2009/11/9 Athos Bacchiocchi athos.bacchioc...@tin.it hi, i'm working on a little project in which some notes with random pitches and duration appear at random time intervals. Each note is packed in a midi format (pitch and velocity), with a note-off event (pitch and zero velocity) sent after the note duration interval. it can happen that a new note is generated before the previous one has been stopped.That's not a trouble, since i can handle it with [poly], eventually set to 1 voice and with voice stealing to force a monophonic melody. Hi Athos, Since you want it to be monophonic, why don't you just force a note-off for the previous note, right before the note-on of the new note ? If you want rests inbetween the notes you could also use [pipe]---[pack f 0], and [flush( the [pipe] when a new note arrives, so that if the previous note had not finished yet, the scheduled note-off for it is sent early, before the new note-on... does that make sense ? (attached is an example) Tim The problem appears if the new note coming has the same pitch than the previous one. This is impossible for a real midi keyboard, in fact a key can be played again only after it has been released. This leads to an undesired behaviour of [poly]: if there are more than 1 voice, i have the sum of different voices playing the same note, with an undesiderd increase of the volume. Even worse, when the voice is only one, the note-off message of the previous note stops the new note before its assigned time duration! I tried to set up a strategy to avoid this, but with no results. Any idea? thanks, athos ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list makerandomnote.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
