Re: [PD] Vowel identification

2009-12-15 Thread Andy Farnell


Tried it out yesterday with success. The timbral
ordering was a lot of fun,  it would be a great tool
for building wavetable synths too.

The vowel matching worked well, the help files with 
a 4 category training test was perfect. Also nice
code, no weird libs, so everything compiled
first time.

cheers for posting these William, great work.

a.

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:23:20 -0800
William Brent william.br...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi José,
 
 Nope, no SC implementation for now, just Pd.  Thanks for looking...
 
 William
 
 
 
 On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 2:48 AM, josepadovani josepadov...@yahoo.com.br 
 wrote:
  That is really nice!
  Do you have this working also in SC? (I am asking because our recent thread
  about cepstrum in sc list)
  I will try it soon!
 
  Best wishes,
  josé
 
  William Brent escreveu:
 
  Hi list,
 
  I just put together a simple example patch using a couple of my
  timbreID externs in order to identify sung vowels.  Here's a 30 second
  movie that demonstrates the patch:
 
  http://williambrent.conflations.com/mov/timbreID-vowel.mov
 
  I've only played with it a bit, but it seems like it works well within
  a small pitch range as is.  If anyone actually has a need for this at
  the moment, let me know how it works for you...
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] ARToolkit for Debian/Ubuntu and Windows

2009-12-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 So you have artoolkit support in the Windows build?
 

yes.

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Re: [PD] a good filter for my sample reader...

2009-12-15 Thread martin brinkmann
David Schaffer wrote:
 Idealy the device should be fat sounding and resonant...

imho the nusmuk-audio-filters posted to the list a while ago
are among the best sounding (pd vanilla) filters. only the
cpu-load is very high, due to fexpr~.

bis denn!
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Re: [PD] Tutorial de Puredata em Português (porres , 2009)

2009-12-15 Thread Alexandre Porres
Grato aos feedbacks positivos que já tive. Só um pequeno detalhe, eu tinha
subido o tutorial errado, agora o certo já tá no ar, quem baixou antes das
9:40 da manhã então, por favor, baixe de novo. Os arquivos, na verdade, já
passam de 160...

Valeu!


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 Pd Tutorial in Portuguese:
 ---

 Olá,  segue minha mais nova versão de um tutorial de Pd em português.
 Revisões de texto e feedback são bem vindas. Ele cobre o básico de
 programação/sintaxe e, com uns 150 arquivos, tá bem completinho.

 download link: http://sites.google.com/site/porres/TutorialPd.zip

 Grato
 Porres

 ps. Feliz Natal e Ano Novo

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Re: [PD] PyPd

2009-12-15 Thread Chris McCormick
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 04:31:40AM +, Chris McCormick wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:50:44PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 I don't actually use the subprocess module, rather a Popen.

This statement was incorrect. I do use the subprocess module.

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Re: [PD] PyPd

2009-12-15 Thread Chris McCormick
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:40:30PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 On Dec 14, 2009, at 11:31 PM, Chris McCormick wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:50:44PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
 Hanging as in not responding, but not quitting.  I guess bang/until  
 would do that.  Its tricky to catch.  I guess there needs to be some  
 kind of ping.

I will test it, but that faces the same old can of worms with [until], which is
to say, what if the user just passed a very very large number to until? (e.g.
if they are processing a very long list).

 The advantage of this using PyPd for the unittest scripts is that PyPd  
 becomes more robust in the process.  The only issue in my mind is  
 whether PyPd has the same goal in terms of monitoring the pd process.  I 
 can't see why not, but I suppose there could be a reason.

I am quite happy for you to use PyPd in your unit test script. :)

What do you mean by the same goal in terms of monitoring the pd process?

The goal of PyPd is two things: 1) provide an easy way to launch, communicate
with, and shut down an instance of Pd. 2) provide an easy and general way to
parse Pd files in order to extract useful information from them.

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Re: [PD] a good filter for my sample reader...

2009-12-15 Thread cyrille henry



martin brinkmann a écrit :

David Schaffer wrote:

Idealy the device should be fat sounding and resonant...


imho the nusmuk-audio-filters posted to the list a while ago
are among the best sounding (pd vanilla) filters. only the
cpu-load is very high, due to fexpr~.


happy to know that you like them.

filter in nusmuk audio are biquad, but they use audio signal to change 
frequency so they are good if filter parametter are changing over time.
they use a different structure than pd biquad so coeficient computation are not 
compatible with gunter objets.

the filter abstraction (that use fexpr~) can be replace with an external, so 
the filter can be lot's more efficient...
(i don't have binary for any other platform than pd, but should be very easy to 
compile)

http://www.chnry.net/ch/?091-Nusmuk-audiolang=en

cyrille




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Re: [PD] [readanysf~] and so called interleaved wav files.

2009-12-15 Thread august
 On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 00:13 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
  Hi all
  
  I'm trying to build an application that supports loading as many
  different WAV-formats as possible (primarily different bit-depths and
  number of channels). I found, that when focussing on PCM-encoded files
  only, the variety of formats is still big. Actually, i'd like the
  application to auto-recognize the number of channels of loaded files.
  Since [readanysf~] doesn't do that, i use also [ext13/wavinfo] to gather
  some data about the files. Unfortunately, this externals doesn't read
  files with a so-called 'broadcast' format. But this is a different
  story. 
  Then i encountered, that there is something called 'interleaved' format.
  Those multi-channel files are read fine by [readsf~], but not by
  [readanysf~]. I have a 8-channel-interleaved file, which [readanysf~]
  seems to play (according to the right most outlet), but all output
  channels are mute. However, 8-channel-files i created myself, seem to
  work well with both, [readsf~] and [readanysf~]. I have another
  6-channel interleaved files, which only 5 are played from by
  [readanysf~]. 
  Now, i wonder what is the magic behind those 'interleaved' files and
  also, if there is a way to play them in Pd _AND_ have a 'seek' option as
  [readanysf~] offers?
 
 Googling some more makes me believe, that 'interleaved' does mean
 nothing more than just 'many audio channels interleaved into one single
 file'. So actually both my 8-channel WAV-files are interleaved. Both are
 8ch 16bit 44100Hz PCM files and still they are different in that only
 one of them is read correctly by [readanysf~]. 
 
 * How can i get info about PCM-WAV files in Pd?
 * How can i reliably play them back (with the ability to seek)?
 


Can you put the files online somewhere so I can download them and test
them?


-august.

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Re: [PD] [devolts] Re: Tutorial de Puredata em P ortuguês (porres, 2009)

2009-12-15 Thread glerm soares
grande atitude compartilhar, alexandre!

abraços
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[PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.92.2 released!

2009-12-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
the second bugfix release for Gem 0.92 has been made available to the
public.

it fixes a number of showstoppers in 0.92.1, namely:
 * crasher bugs
   o fixed bug with threaded image loading
   o fixed use of openGL-functions without a valid context
   o fixed FreeFrame-loader with no canvas
 * compilation issues
   o fixed compilation of GemPBuffer on OSX 10.4
   o fixed compilation with newer versions of libavifile
   o fixed compilation with newer g++ (char*/const char* confusion)


binaries available for w32 (installer), OS-X (universal) and the brave
(source code)

grab it while it's hot: http://gem.iem.at/releases/0.92.2

alternatively you can get the files from
https://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.92.2 released!

2009-12-15 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Excellent, thanks a lot i love GEM

Best regards

José (Chile)

2009/12/15 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at

 the second bugfix release for Gem 0.92 has been made available to the
 public.

 it fixes a number of showstoppers in 0.92.1, namely:
  * crasher bugs
   o fixed bug with threaded image loading
   o fixed use of openGL-functions without a valid context
   o fixed FreeFrame-loader with no canvas
  * compilation issues
   o fixed compilation of GemPBuffer on OSX 10.4
   o fixed compilation with newer versions of libavifile
   o fixed compilation with newer g++ (char*/const char* confusion)


 binaries available for w32 (installer), OS-X (universal) and the brave
 (source code)

 grab it while it's hot: http://gem.iem.at/releases/0.92.2

 alternatively you can get the files from
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem



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Re: [PD] [devolts] Re: Tutorial de Puredata em P ortuguês (porres, 2009)

2009-12-15 Thread Daniel Roviriego
Du caralho!!!

Valeu Alexandre, tá bem didático o material!

abraços

Daniel D2
Rádio UFSCar

2009/12/15 glerm soares organi...@gmail.com


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.92.2 released!

2009-12-15 Thread chris clepper
ld: warning: in /System/Library/Frameworks//QuickTime.framework/QuickTime,
missing required architecture x86_64 in file

Try forcing a 32 bit build.

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.comwrote:

 in os x 10.6 i still get the same error...

 I didn't expect it to work... just reporting.

 attached is the config.log

 best,

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.92.2 released!

2009-12-15 Thread Jaime Oliver
 ld: warning: in /System/Library/Frameworks//QuickTime.framework/QuickTime,
 missing required architecture x86_64 in file

 Try forcing a 32 bit build.

would I achieve that by removing the -fPIC flag?

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.92.2 released!

2009-12-15 Thread chris clepper
-arch i386

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.comwrote:

  ld: warning: in
 /System/Library/Frameworks//QuickTime.framework/QuickTime,
  missing required architecture x86_64 in file
 
  Try forcing a 32 bit build.

 would I achieve that by removing the -fPIC flag?

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.92.2 released!

2009-12-15 Thread chris clepper
add arch -i386 to both the CFLAGS and LDFLAGS then make clean and make.

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.comwrote:

 thanks, that seems to make it compile, but with a lot of warnings of the
 kind:

 ld: warning: in ./Objects/world_light.o, file is not of required
 architecture

 for just about every object.

 I do get a Gem.pd_darwin

 but get the following messages from pd when loading:

 tried /Applications/gem-0.92-2/src/Gem.d_fat and failed
 tried /Applications/gem-0.92-2/src/Gem.pd_darwin and succeeded
 /Applications/gem-0.92-2/src/Gem.pd_darwin:
 dlopen(/Applications/gem-0.92-2/src/Gem.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable
 image found.  Did find:
/Applications/gem-0.92-2/src/Gem.pd_darwin: mach-o, but wrong
 architecture
 /Applications/gem-0.92-2/src/Gem: can't load library

 again I attach the config.log

 best,

 J





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 wrote:
  -arch i386
 
  On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   ld: warning: in
   /System/Library/Frameworks//QuickTime.framework/QuickTime,
   missing required architecture x86_64 in file
  
   Try forcing a 32 bit build.
 
  would I achieve that by removing the -fPIC flag?
 
 



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.92.2 released!

2009-12-15 Thread Jaime Oliver
what is the difference between:

GEM_CXXFLAGS
and
CXXFLAGS

?

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:49 PM, chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com wrote:
 add arch -i386 to both the CFLAGS and LDFLAGS then make clean and make.

 On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 thanks, that seems to make it compile, but with a lot of warnings of the
 kind:

 ld: warning: in ./Objects/world_light.o, file is not of required
 architecture

 for just about every object.

 I do get a Gem.pd_darwin

 but get the following messages from pd when loading:

 tried /Applications/gem-0.92-2/src/Gem.d_fat and failed
 tried /Applications/gem-0.92-2/src/Gem.pd_darwin and succeeded
 /Applications/gem-0.92-2/src/Gem.pd_darwin:
 dlopen(/Applications/gem-0.92-2/src/Gem.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable
 image found.  Did find:
        /Applications/gem-0.92-2/src/Gem.pd_darwin: mach-o, but wrong
 architecture
 /Applications/gem-0.92-2/src/Gem: can't load library

 again I attach the config.log

 best,

 J





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 wrote:
  -arch i386
 
  On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   ld: warning: in
   /System/Library/Frameworks//QuickTime.framework/QuickTime,
   missing required architecture x86_64 in file
  
   Try forcing a 32 bit build.
 
  would I achieve that by removing the -fPIC flag?
 
 



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.92.2 released!

2009-12-15 Thread Jaime Oliver
 On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:49 PM, chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com wrote:
 add arch -i386 to both the CFLAGS and LDFLAGS then make clean and make.

Indeed that worked!

I need to test it to see if everything works and don't have the time
right now, but I will soon.

what I did is

aclocal
autoconf
./configure --with-pd...
changed the Make.config file as attached (removing -fPIC, adding -arch
i386 -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk and changing
-mmacosx-version-min=10.3 to 10.4)
and then :

make

best,

J


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Re: [PD] [readanysf~] and so called interleaved wav files.

2009-12-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 15:33 +0100, august wrote:

 
 Can you put the files online somewhere so I can download them and test
 them?

Of course:

this plays fine:
http://romanhaefeli.net/8ch_does_play.wav

this plays, but no sound:
don't know if i can post that link on the list


BTW: Is there some documentation about how [readanysf~] (or the
underlying layer) tries to assign the channels, when the number of
channels created and the number of channels of the loaded file do not
match?

Thanks for having a look.

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.92.2 released!

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Plessas
Thank you IOhannes!

P

IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 the second bugfix release for Gem 0.92 has been made available to the
 public.
 
 it fixes a number of showstoppers in 0.92.1, namely:
  * crasher bugs
o fixed bug with threaded image loading
o fixed use of openGL-functions without a valid context
o fixed FreeFrame-loader with no canvas
  * compilation issues
o fixed compilation of GemPBuffer on OSX 10.4
o fixed compilation with newer versions of libavifile
o fixed compilation with newer g++ (char*/const char* confusion)
 
 
 binaries available for w32 (installer), OS-X (universal) and the brave
 (source code)
 
 grab it while it's hot: http://gem.iem.at/releases/0.92.2
 
 alternatively you can get the files from
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] Vowel identification

2009-12-15 Thread William Brent
Thanks for the feedback Andy.  Let me know if you use it for anything
in the near future and if you find any of the inevitable bugs.

Here's a demo of an upcoming addition to the examples package.  It's
the start of a CataRT-style timbre space interface...

http://williambrent.conflations.com/mov/timbreSpace.mov




On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:29 AM, Andy Farnell
padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk wrote:


 Tried it out yesterday with success. The timbral
 ordering was a lot of fun,  it would be a great tool
 for building wavetable synths too.

 The vowel matching worked well, the help files with
 a 4 category training test was perfect. Also nice
 code, no weird libs, so everything compiled
 first time.

 cheers for posting these William, great work.

 a.

 On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:23:20 -0800
 William Brent william.br...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi José,

 Nope, no SC implementation for now, just Pd.  Thanks for looking...

 William



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 wrote:
  That is really nice!
  Do you have this working also in SC? (I am asking because our recent thread
  about cepstrum in sc list)
  I will try it soon!
 
  Best wishes,
  josé
 
  William Brent escreveu:
 
  Hi list,
 
  I just put together a simple example patch using a couple of my
  timbreID externs in order to identify sung vowels.  Here's a 30 second
  movie that demonstrates the patch:
 
  http://williambrent.conflations.com/mov/timbreID-vowel.mov
 
  I've only played with it a bit, but it seems like it works well within
  a small pitch range as is.  If anyone actually has a need for this at
  the moment, let me know how it works for you...
 
 
 
 
 
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