Re: [PD] plugin~

[Kim Cascone]

I found that I had an older version of the 'gem.pd_linux' from June 4 2009

so I download the src and compiled Gem 0.92.3

and installed the new 'gem.pd_linux' binary in the Gem lib

now [plugin~] no longer crashes when sent [info] and [listplugins] messages

**major thanks to IOhannes and Hans-Christoph for their assistance and 
patience!


:)

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[PD] play mp3 file and create graphical front end interface

[Adityo Pratomo]

Hi All,

I'm currently working with my sister for a project that will involve
creating a simple remix tool, in which a song will be played, and the user
can create additional sounds on top of that song, recording it and thus
create his/her own version of the song. I've done with the basic of the
tool, it's now operational. However, I have some questions:

1. Can I load an mp3 file? I use readsf~ and I think it can only read wav
and aiff file
2. Can we create a graphical front end using HTML? Or are we restricted to
GrIPD to create a more informative graphical front end? If so, can grIPD
work on Mac OSX, beacuse it's the OS that we're working in, and the GrIPD
website don't show any information of installing it in Mac OSX.

Many thanks for your help :)

Regards,

Didit

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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[Kim Cascone]

IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:

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IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:


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is there a way on the command line to load only certain libs?
this way I don't have to delete them and retype them in on the
'libraries to load on startup' panel
or is the simplest way to delete them from this list and put them back
in one by one?




the "paths" panel is mainly merely a graphical wrapper around the
"-path" flag.
e.g. "-path /path/to/lib1:/path2/lib2:/bla/blu"
  
  

true but doing this from a terminal will only add paths on a per session
basis



i thought this is what you were asking for with "is there a way on the
command line to load only certain libs?"
  
yes, but I'm trying to understand your statement: 'the panel merely 
being a wrapper around the -path flag'


unless I'm not understanding something
making these changes from the panel in Pd these settings are persistent
making them from the command line they are not

libs loaded gets written to the 'default.pdsettings' file
and is easier to make changes there
except PdX doesn't recognize '# comments'

but I found going root and physically moving them back in in nautilus 
was easier

we are talking about isolating a bug, aren't we?

unless you open the 'paths' panel and click on Apply
is there a way to make this persistent from the console?



use a shell-script.
  


a shell script would only work on a per session basis as well - no?


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[PD] No drop down menu from "Put" toolbar.

[Aidan Mollen]

Hi List,

This is a newbie question.
I use OSX (.5.8).
When I scroll over "Put" on the toolbar, no drop down menu appears.
Similarly, keyboard shortcuts will not create an object or message etc.
Other drop down menus are fine.
Is this common? Are there solutions?

AM.

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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[Kim Cascone]

I did some testing with the libs
to see which one was making PdX crash when sending [info] and [listplugins]
to the [plugin~] external

I moved all libs out of 'usr/lib/pd/extras/' directory
and moved them back in one at a time
while launching PdX in between each addition

I found the Gem lib was causing the crash
so I did the same testing with the Gem directory
and found that

Gem.pd_linux

was the file in the Gem lib that is making PdX crash
when sending down [info] and [listplugins]
to [plugin~]




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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

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> IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
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>> On 06/10/2010 06:59 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:
>>  
>>> is there a way on the command line to load only certain libs?
>>> this way I don't have to delete them and retype them in on the
>>> 'libraries to load on startup' panel
>>> or is the simplest way to delete them from this list and put them back
>>> in one by one?
>>>
>>> 
>>
>> the "paths" panel is mainly merely a graphical wrapper around the
>> "-path" flag.
>> e.g. "-path /path/to/lib1:/path2/lib2:/bla/blu"
>>   
> true but doing this from a terminal will only add paths on a per session
> basis

i thought this is what you were asking for with "is there a way on the
command line to load only certain libs?"

we are talking about isolating a bug, aren't we?


> unless you open the 'paths' panel and click on Apply
> is there a way to make this persistent from the console?

use a shell-script.


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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

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On 06/10/2010 08:51 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:
>>
>> The one that causes plugin~ to crash is likely 'flatspace' since it
>> includes the old, buggy version of plugin~.  

well, true and false.
"flatspace" is likely to pull in the wrong version of plugin~.
however, if you are loading the correct version of "plugin~" than
floatspace is most likely not the culprit, but some other library (real
library - a file with .pd_linux, not a "libdir")

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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

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On 06/11/2010 12:07 AM, Kim Cascone wrote:
>>
> can't seem to comment lines out of the pdextended file using '#' at the
> beginning of a line
> is there a different way to do this?

backup your .pdsettings file
then edit the .pdsettings: remove the offending libs and set the
libcount accordingly.

fgsdmf
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Re: [PD] Conventions statistics

[João Pais]

if you're looking for a place to host/support your convention (although  
probably you know already one), I would suggest either taking it up with  
an institution - ZKM Karlsruhe, Tube München, TU Berlin ; or go through  
the low end and use several artist spaces and venues to perform. Lots of  
them here in Berlin, and also the TU organised the LAC 2007 (and ZKM the  
previous two).


for example, the space where we do the pd-berlin meetings would be  
interested to help (as much as they can, they're an artist comune). afaik  
they also take part in the organisation of the super collider symposium in  
a few months.


João Pais

This is just a preliminary inquiry to get an idea about the funding  
situation in Germany for such an event. The German Research Foundation  
for example supports to my sources according to the number of speakers  
with doctorate - this is why I need these numbers.

m.

Am 06.06.2010 um 17:13 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:



Funny, Alex Porres and I were just talking about the next PdCon :).   
He's here staying with me in NYC for ICMC.  I'll prod him a bit...


.hc

On Jun 6, 2010, at 5:10 AM, Max wrote:


Hi List,

for my funding research I need approximations for the conventions in  
Graz, Montréal and São Paulo with the numbers of


speakers/speakers with PhD or equivalent
attendees total/attendees with PhD or equivalent

I'd be glad if you (read the organizers of the previous conventions)  
could help me with that.



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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[Kim Cascone]

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:




If you put the plugin~.pd_linux into your project folder, it will be 
loaded first.

by 'project folder' do you mean the '~/pd-externals' directory?


No, say you have a Pd project, all the patches are in a folder called 
/home/hans/Documents/myproject, then you'd put the plugin~.pd_linux there.
ah I see - so similar to Max where it looks in the same dir as the patch 
first - and patches with special externals can be more portable by 
putting everything in one dir

got it thanks!


  You can put it into ~/pd-externals too, that's a bit lower in the 
totem pole of loading.

OK good to know




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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[Kim Cascone]

IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:

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On 06/10/2010 06:59 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:
  

is there a way on the command line to load only certain libs?
this way I don't have to delete them and retype them in on the
'libraries to load on startup' panel
or is the simplest way to delete them from this list and put them back
in one by one?




the "paths" panel is mainly merely a graphical wrapper around the
"-path" flag.
e.g. "-path /path/to/lib1:/path2/lib2:/bla/blu"
  
true but doing this from a terminal will only add paths on a per session 
basis

unless you open the 'paths' panel and click on Apply
is there a way to make this persistent from the console?



the "startup" panel is mainly merely a graphical wrapper around the
"-lib" flag.
e.g. "-lib Gem:zexy:iemguts"
  
ok thanks - will try adding one at a time and seeing which one causes 
the [plugin~] crash

more later


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Re: [PD] mbrola for pd?

[Bryan Jurish]

moin fp,

Also see Tim Redfern's [flite~] (threaded) at
http://eclectronics.org/publish/flite~/ and try [ratts] from
http://www.ling.uni-potsdam.de/~moocow/projects/pd/ratts-0.08.tar.gz if
you want to make pd sound like your old Speak'n'Spell (oops, I'm dating
myself)...

I recently heard from Nicolas d'Alessandro, author (I think) of the
mbrola wrapper for max, who referred to himself as "maintainer of the
MBROLA for Max and Pd external".  You might check his web page
http://www.nicolasdalessandro.net/ for availability of the pd wrapper.
IIRC, any mbrola wrapper for pd will have to be a binary-only
distribution, since mbrola isn't available either as source or as a
dynamic library, but it's been a few years since I last looked into it,
so maybe things have changed in the meantime...

marmosets,
Bryan

On 2010-06-10 16:59:26, fp  appears to have written:
> hi
> i know there is one for max and something on sc so i was wondering: is
> there a pd object for mbrola?
> alternatively, any other speech synthesis implementations usable from pd?
> thanks

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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[Kim Cascone]

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



You could also create your own .pdextended file to make it not load 
any libraries by default.  That's the direction we are going with 
Pd-extended anyway.  Check out /usr/lib/pdextended/default.pdextended 
to see the one that's loaded by default.

ah ha! good tip! thanks!
I'll just comment out the libs and add them one by one this way
much easier :)




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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[Kim Cascone]

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


On Jun 10, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:


IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:

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On 06/10/2010 06:59 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:


is there a way on the command line to load only certain libs?
this way I don't have to delete them and retype them in on the
'libraries to load on startup' panel
or is the simplest way to delete them from this list and put them back
in one by one?




the "paths" panel is mainly merely a graphical wrapper around the
"-path" flag.
e.g. "-path /path/to/lib1:/path2/lib2:/bla/blu"

true but doing this from a terminal will only add paths on a per 
session basis

unless you open the 'paths' panel and click on Apply
is there a way to make this persistent from the console?



the "startup" panel is mainly merely a graphical wrapper around the
"-lib" flag.
e.g. "-lib Gem:zexy:iemguts"

ok thanks - will try adding one at a time and seeing which one causes 
the [plugin~] crash

more later



The one that causes plugin~ to crash is likely 'flatspace' since it 
includes the old, buggy version of plugin~.  
yeah I already compiled the new [plugin~] and replaced the old one in 
the /flatspace lib
so there is something else either in /flatspace or another lib causing 
[plugin~] to crash when getting a [info] or [listplugins] message
but I'll isolate the new [plugin~] from the rest of the /flatspace and 
see if that is true


If you put the plugin~.pd_linux into your project folder, it will be 
loaded first.

by 'project folder' do you mean the '~/pd-externals' directory?



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Re: [PD] Building Pd-extended 64 bit OS X

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Well, since I think you should be working, I tried myself and wrote up  
some notes, maybe that will get you back to work sooner rather than  
later ;)


http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MacOSX64BitBuilds

Please add your experience to it.

.hc

On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Dafydd Hughes wrote:


Well, if I'm going this far, why not manually build Tcl/Tk?

I really should be doing _work_.

On 2010-06-10, at 12:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



I just tried a build, looks like you need to remove 'hid' and  
'pidip' from the LIB_TARGETS to get things to build.


Also, I don't think Pd-extended 0.42.5 will work with Tcl/Tk newer  
than 8.4  0.43 does.  That means if building on 10.6, you'll  
probably having to use a manually installed 8.4 build of Tcl/Tk.


.hc

On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dafydd Hughes wrote:


Hi folks

Any advice on building a 64 bit version of Pd-extended? I've  
started by following the instructions here http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MacOSXFink 
 but it looks like Fink is unable to find several libraries. (I've  
removed them from the install command and I'll let Fink install  
the rest)


So far it looks like I'm missing:
gdk-pixbuf
gdk-pixbuf-shlibs
gnome-libs-dev
gnome-libs-shlibs
intltool
libwww-pm586
orbit orbit-shlibs
xdg-base
xml-parser-pm586

(this is from memory - I could have it wrong)

Will Pd automatically build as 64-bit or do I need to give it  
specific flags?


I hope these aren't stupid questions.

cheers
dafydd
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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Jun 10, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:


IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:

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On 06/10/2010 06:59 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:


is there a way on the command line to load only certain libs?
this way I don't have to delete them and retype them in on the
'libraries to load on startup' panel
or is the simplest way to delete them from this list and put them  
back

in one by one?




the "paths" panel is mainly merely a graphical wrapper around the
"-path" flag.
e.g. "-path /path/to/lib1:/path2/lib2:/bla/blu"

true but doing this from a terminal will only add paths on a per  
session basis

unless you open the 'paths' panel and click on Apply
is there a way to make this persistent from the console?



the "startup" panel is mainly merely a graphical wrapper around the
"-lib" flag.
e.g. "-lib Gem:zexy:iemguts"

ok thanks - will try adding one at a time and seeing which one  
causes the [plugin~] crash

more later



The one that causes plugin~ to crash is likely 'flatspace' since it  
includes the old, buggy version of plugin~.  If you put the  
plugin~.pd_linux into your project folder, it will be loaded first.


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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Jun 10, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:


Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


On Jun 10, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:


IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:

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On 06/10/2010 06:59 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:


is there a way on the command line to load only certain libs?
this way I don't have to delete them and retype them in on the
'libraries to load on startup' panel
or is the simplest way to delete them from this list and put  
them back

in one by one?




the "paths" panel is mainly merely a graphical wrapper around the
"-path" flag.
e.g. "-path /path/to/lib1:/path2/lib2:/bla/blu"

true but doing this from a terminal will only add paths on a per  
session basis

unless you open the 'paths' panel and click on Apply
is there a way to make this persistent from the console?



the "startup" panel is mainly merely a graphical wrapper around the
"-lib" flag.
e.g. "-lib Gem:zexy:iemguts"

ok thanks - will try adding one at a time and seeing which one  
causes the [plugin~] crash

more later



The one that causes plugin~ to crash is likely 'flatspace' since it  
includes the old, buggy version of plugin~.
yeah I already compiled the new [plugin~] and replaced the old one  
in the /flatspace lib
so there is something else either in /flatspace or another lib  
causing [plugin~] to crash when getting a [info] or [listplugins]  
message
but I'll isolate the new [plugin~] from the rest of the /flatspace  
and see if that is true


If you put the plugin~.pd_linux into your project folder, it will  
be loaded first.

by 'project folder' do you mean the '~/pd-externals' directory?


No, say you have a Pd project, all the patches are in a folder called / 
home/hans/Documents/myproject, then you'd put the plugin~.pd_linux  
there.  You can put it into ~/pd-externals too, that's a bit lower in  
the totem pole of loading.


.hc



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Re: [PD] starting automatically "read only" (Ubuntu 10.04)

[András Murányi]

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Ingo Scherzinger wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> with the help of Dan Wilcox I got pretty close to start my system "read
> only" however I'm still getting a nasty nagscreen which I have to click
> away
> while starting up. I really need this machine to start up automatically
> with
> a read only filesystem.
>
> The error is pretty much known in the internet forums. However I havn't
> found a workaraound for a "read only" filesystem:
>
> "could not update ICEauthory file /home/ingo/.ICEauthory"
>
>
> /etc/fstab looks like this:
>
> 
>   
> proc/proc   procnodev,noexec,nosuid
> 0   0
>
> # /boot was on /dev/sda1 during installation
> UUID=6f3bcc50-4957-46a6-91d5-c8f5bbf77578   /boot   ext3ro  0
> 0
>
> # / was on /dev/sda2 during installation
> UUID=6a94f9f8-6ee2-4e98-b57f-e2353b916b39 / ext3ro  0   0
>
> /dev/sda3   /home/ingo/data ext3rw,user,noauto  0   2
>
> 
> tmpfs /var/run tmpfs defaults 0 0
> tmpfs /var/lock tmpfs defaults 0 0
> tmpfs /var/log tmpfs defaults 0 0
> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0
> 
>
> Also, sda3 is not mounting automatically if I set it to "auto". I was
> trying
> to put the .ICEauthory file to the third partition and replace the original
> one with a link.
>
> I would appreciate it a lot if anybody had an idea how to eliminate the
> .ICEauthory problem.
>
> Thank you, Ingo
>

If the file's contents have to be preserved between sessions, it's breaking
the "read only system" paradigm. (You may still be able to use an usb drive
for this purpose?)
If the file can be recreated with the same content at each startup, i'd
think about how to trick it to be on a temporary writable filesystem. I
suppose we cannot change the default path for this file, and i'm not sure if
you can a have link in your read only filesystem (/home/ingo) pointing to a
yet-to-be-created file on a temporary filesystem, but given the annoyance
factor of the problem, it may make sense to trick your whole /home/ingo onto
a temporary filesystem (from where of course you will be free to create
links to directories that reside on the read-only filesystem).

Andras
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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Jun 10, 2010, at 2:02 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:


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On 06/10/2010 06:59 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:


is there a way on the command line to load only certain libs?
this way I don't have to delete them and retype them in on the
'libraries to load on startup' panel
or is the simplest way to delete them from this list and put them  
back

in one by one?



the "paths" panel is mainly merely a graphical wrapper around the
"-path" flag.
e.g. "-path /path/to/lib1:/path2/lib2:/bla/blu"

the "startup" panel is mainly merely a graphical wrapper around the
"-lib" flag.
e.g. "-lib Gem:zexy:iemguts"



You could also create your own .pdextended file to make it not load  
any libraries by default.  That's the direction we are going with Pd- 
extended anyway.  Check out /usr/lib/pdextended/default.pdextended to  
see the one that's loaded by default.


.hc




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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[Kim Cascone]

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


You could also create your own .pdextended file to make it not load 
any libraries by default.  That's the direction we are going with 
Pd-extended anyway.  Check out /usr/lib/pdextended/default.pdextended 
to see the one that's loaded by default.


can't seem to comment lines out of the pdextended file using '#' at the 
beginning of a line

is there a different way to do this?

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Re: [PD] How I got [hid] working with mouse on Ubuntu Lucid

[Dan Wilcox]

On Jun 10, 2010, at 5:48 PM, ailo wrote:

> Does  
> http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/HowToReadHIDDevicesInLinuxWithoutBeingRoot
>  work for you still?
> If you like I can update the howto later, once I'm more comfortable with the 
> udev rules.

Well, I wrote it from old notes I had but I didn't test it at the time ... 
obviously a mistake. Now I updated and tested it with the version of Ubuntu I 
have (Karmic).

Check it now: 
http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/HowToReadHIDDevicesInLinuxWithoutBeingRoot

Also, you don't need to ask permission to update the wiki. Just go ahead and if 
there are any problems we can always revert to an older version. I may have 
written it, but everyone should be able to to update the content and my stupid 
mistakes (such as this one).


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Re: [PD] Building Pd-extended 64 bit OS X

[Dafydd Hughes]

Ha! Thanks Hans-Christoph! I'll have a look.

On 2010-06-10, at 3:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

> 
> Well, since I think you should be working, I tried myself and wrote up some 
> notes, maybe that will get you back to work sooner rather than later ;)
> 
> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MacOSX64BitBuilds
> 
> Please add your experience to it.
> 
> .hc
> 
> On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Dafydd Hughes wrote:
> 
>> Well, if I'm going this far, why not manually build Tcl/Tk?
>> 
>> I really should be doing _work_.
>> 
>> On 2010-06-10, at 12:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I just tried a build, looks like you need to remove 'hid' and 'pidip' from 
>>> the LIB_TARGETS to get things to build.
>>> 
>>> Also, I don't think Pd-extended 0.42.5 will work with Tcl/Tk newer than 8.4 
>>>  0.43 does.  That means if building on 10.6, you'll probably having to use 
>>> a manually installed 8.4 build of Tcl/Tk.
>>> 
>>> .hc
>>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dafydd Hughes wrote:
>>> 
 Hi folks
 
 Any advice on building a 64 bit version of Pd-extended? I've started by 
 following the instructions here 
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MacOSXFink but it looks like Fink is 
 unable to find several libraries. (I've removed them from the install 
 command and I'll let Fink install the rest)
 
 So far it looks like I'm missing:
 gdk-pixbuf
 gdk-pixbuf-shlibs
 gnome-libs-dev
 gnome-libs-shlibs
 intltool
 libwww-pm586
 orbit orbit-shlibs
 xdg-base
 xml-parser-pm586
 
 (this is from memory - I could have it wrong)
 
 Will Pd automatically build as 64-bit or do I need to give it specific 
 flags?
 
 I hope these aren't stupid questions.
 
 cheers
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[PD] starting automatically "read only" (Ubuntu 10.04)

[Ingo Scherzinger]

Hi there,

with the help of Dan Wilcox I got pretty close to start my system "read
only" however I'm still getting a nasty nagscreen which I have to click away
while starting up. I really need this machine to start up automatically with
a read only filesystem.

The error is pretty much known in the internet forums. However I havn't
found a workaraound for a "read only" filesystem:

"could not update ICEauthory file /home/ingo/.ICEauthory"


/etc/fstab looks like this:


  
proc/proc   procnodev,noexec,nosuid
0   0

# /boot was on /dev/sda1 during installation
UUID=6f3bcc50-4957-46a6-91d5-c8f5bbf77578   /boot   ext3ro  0
0

# / was on /dev/sda2 during installation
UUID=6a94f9f8-6ee2-4e98-b57f-e2353b916b39 / ext3ro  0   0

/dev/sda3   /home/ingo/data ext3rw,user,noauto  0   2


tmpfs /var/run tmpfs defaults 0 0 
tmpfs /var/lock tmpfs defaults 0 0 
tmpfs /var/log tmpfs defaults 0 0
tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0


Also, sda3 is not mounting automatically if I set it to "auto". I was trying
to put the .ICEauthory file to the third partition and replace the original
one with a link.

I would appreciate it a lot if anybody had an idea how to eliminate the
.ICEauthory problem.

Thank you, Ingo


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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

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On 06/10/2010 06:59 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:
> 
> is there a way on the command line to load only certain libs?
> this way I don't have to delete them and retype them in on the
> 'libraries to load on startup' panel
> or is the simplest way to delete them from this list and put them back
> in one by one?
> 

the "paths" panel is mainly merely a graphical wrapper around the
"-path" flag.
e.g. "-path /path/to/lib1:/path2/lib2:/bla/blu"

the "startup" panel is mainly merely a graphical wrapper around the
"-lib" flag.
e.g. "-lib Gem:zexy:iemguts"

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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[Kim Cascone]

IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:


allright.
Pd-extended often makes it a bit difficult to isolate things like that.

this is how i do it (and it's probably a good idea :-)

- - go to plugin-sources
- - compile with scons
- - run Pd with the "-noprefs" flag
- - open your plugin~-testpatch
  


is there a way on the command line to load only certain libs?
this way I don't have to delete them and retype them in on the 
'libraries to load on startup' panel
or is the simplest way to delete them from this list and put them back 
in one by one?



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Re: [PD] finding index from table value

[Mathieu Bouchard]

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010, Alexandre Porres wrote:

hi folks, is there any easy and straightforward way to find what is the 
index, on a table, of some value? Like by sending to some object its 
value?


[listfind] from GridFlow does it from a list.

It doesn't contain an optimisation specifically for sorted lists, though.

You can make an abstraction that does it with a sorted list or table in 
O(log n) time by recursive binary partitioning.


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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[Kim Cascone]

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


On Jun 10, 2010, at 9:21 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:


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On 06/10/2010 04:05 AM, Kim Cascone wrote:

yeah that is what was happening
it keeps loading the old one here instead of seeing the new one in my
pd-externals dir:


allright.
Pd-extended often makes it a bit difficult to isolate things like that.

this is how i do it (and it's probably a good idea :-)

- - go to plugin-sources
- - compile with scons
- - run Pd with the "-noprefs" flag
- - open your plugin~-testpatch

so the trick is to use "-noprefs", which will make Pd(X) ignore the
.pdsettings/.pdrc, so no libraries are loaded by default nor any paths
are added but the "standard" ones ("extra/")

very useful trick! thanks!!
and this did work
so obviously there must be a library loading that affects [plugin~] 
ability to gather info







so I replaced the old plugin~ in /flatspace/ with todays build
deleted the old paths to the /plugin~ dir I created

launched PdX and console message was:
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/plugin~.pd_linux and succeeded

I opened my test patch: 'plugin~June9.pd'

tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/plugin~.pd_linux and succeeded
verbose( 1):plugin~: found plugin "amp" in library
"/usr/lib/ladspa/amp_1181.so"
verbose( 1):plugin~: constructed plugin "Simple amplifier" successfully
verbose( 1):plugin~: plugin ports: audio 1/1 ctrl 1/0
verbose( 1):plugin~: plugin active
plugin~: "Simple amplifier"



good.



then I sent down both [listplugins] and [info]
but they still make PdX crash


bad.

when does it crash?
when sending "listplugins" or when sending "info", or still with both?

it was both
but now running with the -noprefs flag neither message crashes it





I launched pd -stderr


unfortunately this gives loads of uninteresting info, and no interesting
info.

better would be:
$ cd path/to/plugin~
$ pd -noprefs -stderr -verbose -verbose plugin~-June08.pd


and see if something more interesting comes out of it.

also;
would it be possible to run it within gdb?

I have gdb loaded but not sure how to use it



and/or send me the test-patch and your /usr/lib/ladspa/amp_1181.so

I'm using the amp.so that comes with the LADSPA-sdk
my patch and amp.so are zipped and attached

I am editing the 'hosting plugins' page on the PdX FOSS manuals
and still need to know how to translate the info dumped by the plugin~ 
external into

something a person can use
it seems that the number of controls = #1 - #n
???
if this is the case it is unclear and confusing
and needs to be clarified somewhere for other users
coming to PdX from Max/MSP or other audio programming platforms

**I thank you both very much for taking the time to help me figure all 
this out :)


I think that being able to easily host a LADSPA, LV2, DSSI, or VST plug 
in PdX

is a critically important part of building audio tools
and should not be an issue in 2010
we're getting there! :)
KIM


I did get random crashes on Mac OS X, but now I can 't reproduce 
them.  Its working for me.  I improved the help file in the process of 
testing.


.hc



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[PD] limited number sound devices in pd-extended MENU

[Brian FG Katz]

Dear pd community,

 

I have a problem with pd-extended and the selection of sound devices. I have
two 8 channel devices, which is purely a code problem in the device menu.
These devices mount as a collection of stereo devices, and also as single
ASIO devices. But, there seems to be a limit to the total number of devices
shown in the menu, and the ASIO device does not appear. 

 

Right now we are obliged to disconnect one device, select the proper device,
then we can reconnect the second device.

 

This is not a functional problem of PD dealing with the devices, just a hard
coded menu limitation I think.

 

Is this an easy fix in the PD code, and if so can it be done?

 

Cordially,

 

-Brian FG Katz

 

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Re: [PD] problems with an "outburst" recorder

[András Murányi]

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:13 PM, O.  wrote:

> hello. Im fairly new to pd, and am trying to write a patch that when a
> volume threshold is broken (from the built in laptop mics), it i will record
> audio for duration x, and save it as a file, however if the threshold is
> broken again during duration x, duration x is reset and only saves out the
> file until the threshold isnt broken for duration x. when the file is done
> recording, and the threshold is broken again, I would like it to start
> recording another file. the reason I'm making this is because ive been made
> aware that i've been saying strange things in my sleep (that i dont
> remember), and I wanted to try and record them. Eventually with the onboard
> webcam too, but just audio for now.
>

Not a true solution, but if you have the sound recorded in VBR mp3 and you
set the minimum bitrate to 0, at least it won't eat up your disk space when
no sound.

BTW by the time you make this patch up, you'll talk about Pd in your dreams!
Don't be surprised :)

Andras
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Re: [PD] Building Pd-extended 64 bit OS X

[Dafydd Hughes]

Well, if I'm going this far, why not manually build Tcl/Tk?

I really should be doing _work_.

On 2010-06-10, at 12:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

> 
> I just tried a build, looks like you need to remove 'hid' and 'pidip' from 
> the LIB_TARGETS to get things to build.
> 
> Also, I don't think Pd-extended 0.42.5 will work with Tcl/Tk newer than 8.4  
> 0.43 does.  That means if building on 10.6, you'll probably having to use a 
> manually installed 8.4 build of Tcl/Tk.
> 
> .hc
> 
> On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dafydd Hughes wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks
>> 
>> Any advice on building a 64 bit version of Pd-extended? I've started by 
>> following the instructions here 
>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MacOSXFink but it looks like Fink is 
>> unable to find several libraries. (I've removed them from the install 
>> command and I'll let Fink install the rest)
>> 
>> So far it looks like I'm missing:
>> gdk-pixbuf
>> gdk-pixbuf-shlibs
>> gnome-libs-dev
>> gnome-libs-shlibs
>> intltool
>> libwww-pm586
>> orbit orbit-shlibs
>> xdg-base
>> xml-parser-pm586
>> 
>> (this is from memory - I could have it wrong)
>> 
>> Will Pd automatically build as 64-bit or do I need to give it specific flags?
>> 
>> I hope these aren't stupid questions.
>> 
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Re: [PD] Building Pd-extended 64 bit OS X

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I just tried a build, looks like you need to remove 'hid' and 'pidip'  
from the LIB_TARGETS to get things to build.


Also, I don't think Pd-extended 0.42.5 will work with Tcl/Tk newer  
than 8.4  0.43 does.  That means if building on 10.6, you'll probably  
having to use a manually installed 8.4 build of Tcl/Tk.


.hc

On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dafydd Hughes wrote:


Hi folks

Any advice on building a 64 bit version of Pd-extended? I've started  
by following the instructions here http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MacOSXFink 
 but it looks like Fink is unable to find several libraries. (I've  
removed them from the install command and I'll let Fink install the  
rest)


So far it looks like I'm missing:
gdk-pixbuf
gdk-pixbuf-shlibs
gnome-libs-dev
gnome-libs-shlibs
intltool
libwww-pm586
orbit orbit-shlibs
xdg-base
xml-parser-pm586

(this is from memory - I could have it wrong)

Will Pd automatically build as 64-bit or do I need to give it  
specific flags?


I hope these aren't stupid questions.

cheers
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Re: [PD] Building Pd-extended 64 bit OS X

[Dafydd Hughes]

Thanks Hans-Christoph

Actually, not so much intrepid as procrastinating.

I had trouble yesterday getting Pd->py->mysql working and found that all 3 have 
to be either 32 or 64 bit. Right now 32-bit works fine, and I can't see why I'd 
need 64 for what I'm doing, so I might just stop here:)

Let's see how far I get. Gem might be a deal-breaker.

cheers
dafydd 

On 2010-06-10, at 12:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

> 
> Wow, you are an intrepid Pd user, wanting to get into the hard build 
> problems.  I haven't even made a build on 64-bit/10.6 yet.  Here are some 
> things off the top of my head:
> 
> - Gem won't build on 10.6/64-bit since some of the Carbon APIs are not 
> 64-bit.  In packages/Makefile, you'll need to remove 'gem' from the line that 
> starts with 'all:' and "gem_install" from the line that starts with 
> "extended_install".
> 
> - you don't need all the stuff from Fink if you don't care about having all 
> of the libraries.  I'd just try running a build and seeing where it dies.  
> Then in externals/Makefile, remove that library from the TARGETS line.
> 
> .hc
> 
> On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dafydd Hughes wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks
>> 
>> Any advice on building a 64 bit version of Pd-extended? I've started by 
>> following the instructions here 
>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MacOSXFink but it looks like Fink is 
>> unable to find several libraries. (I've removed them from the install 
>> command and I'll let Fink install the rest)
>> 
>> So far it looks like I'm missing:
>> gdk-pixbuf
>> gdk-pixbuf-shlibs
>> gnome-libs-dev
>> gnome-libs-shlibs
>> intltool
>> libwww-pm586
>> orbit orbit-shlibs
>> xdg-base
>> xml-parser-pm586
>> 
>> (this is from memory - I could have it wrong)
>> 
>> Will Pd automatically build as 64-bit or do I need to give it specific flags?
>> 
>> I hope these aren't stupid questions.
>> 
>> cheers
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Re: [PD] Building Pd-extended 64 bit OS X

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Wow, you are an intrepid Pd user, wanting to get into the hard build  
problems.  I haven't even made a build on 64-bit/10.6 yet.  Here are  
some things off the top of my head:


- Gem won't build on 10.6/64-bit since some of the Carbon APIs are not  
64-bit.  In packages/Makefile, you'll need to remove 'gem' from the  
line that starts with 'all:' and "gem_install" from the line that  
starts with "extended_install".


- you don't need all the stuff from Fink if you don't care about  
having all of the libraries.  I'd just try running a build and seeing  
where it dies.  Then in externals/Makefile, remove that library from  
the TARGETS line.


.hc

On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dafydd Hughes wrote:


Hi folks

Any advice on building a 64 bit version of Pd-extended? I've started  
by following the instructions here http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MacOSXFink 
 but it looks like Fink is unable to find several libraries. (I've  
removed them from the install command and I'll let Fink install the  
rest)


So far it looks like I'm missing:
gdk-pixbuf
gdk-pixbuf-shlibs
gnome-libs-dev
gnome-libs-shlibs
intltool
libwww-pm586
orbit orbit-shlibs
xdg-base
xml-parser-pm586

(this is from memory - I could have it wrong)

Will Pd automatically build as 64-bit or do I need to give it  
specific flags?


I hope these aren't stupid questions.

cheers
dafydd
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Re: [PD] PdCon09 & ISCL 2009 Brasil :Photos

[Jose Luis Santorcuato]

Hey Sergi... nice memories good pics...

Best regards

José

2010/6/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> :-D
>
> I added these to the wiki:
> http://puredata.info/community/PdCon2009Media
>
> .hc
>
> On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:49 AM, Sergi Lario wrote:
>
> Hello list!
>
> Tha last days I've uploaded the photos that gave me my camera of the
> pdcon09 and ISCL 2009.
>
>  :Better late than 
> never
>
> Enjoy the photos and open to comments,
>
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Re: [PD] problems with an "outburst" recorder

[James Dunn]

Quoth O., on 10/06/10 16:13:

The three problems Im having at the moment are:
1) I had "del" or "delay" working for awhile, but then it mysteriously 
stopped working. even when i delete it and repatch it. if you click 
"resets counter" there's a bang both before and after the "del 5000" 
on the lower right. i have no idea why or how to fix it.
2) I'm having a hard time figuring out how to keep the file recording 
when the threshold is broken during duration x. The problem is that 
the way I have it set up, is that if the threshold is broken again, it 
will initialize a new file to be written, which I can't figure out how 
to bypass. Perhaps "load banging" an open message for the initial file 
to be written, and then the subsequent ones can be initialized after 
the previous has finished writing? However I think it would be better is:
3) So far I've only devised a very wonky way of recording the next 
file. If you click on "pd recordingsel" in the upper left, you can see 
how I've set it up with switches and a limited amount of files ready 
to be made. I know there must be a better way to do this, so that it 
will just continuously record new files with virtually no limit.


Thanks for helping a newbie!

Olivia
   


Try this patch. There's also a threshold object which might be useful 
for you. (smlib)


James


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[PD] Building Pd-extended 64 bit OS X

[Dafydd Hughes]

Hi folks

Any advice on building a 64 bit version of Pd-extended? I've started by 
following the instructions here http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MacOSXFink 
but it looks like Fink is unable to find several libraries. (I've removed them 
from the install command and I'll let Fink install the rest)

So far it looks like I'm missing:
gdk-pixbuf
gdk-pixbuf-shlibs
gnome-libs-dev
gnome-libs-shlibs
intltool
libwww-pm586
orbit orbit-shlibs
xdg-base
xml-parser-pm586

(this is from memory - I could have it wrong)

Will Pd automatically build as 64-bit or do I need to give it specific flags?

I hope these aren't stupid questions.

cheers
dafydd
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Re: [PD] PdCon09 & ISCL 2009 Brasil :Photos

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

:-D

I added these to the wiki:
http://puredata.info/community/PdCon2009Media

.hc

On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:49 AM, Sergi Lario wrote:


Hello list!

Tha last days I've uploaded the photos that gave me my camera of the  
pdcon09 and ISCL 2009.



:Better late than never

Enjoy the photos and open to comments,

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Re: [PD] problems with an "outburst" recorder

[Lorenzo]

Hi,
O. wrote:
hello. Im fairly new to pd, and am trying to write a patch that when a 
volume threshold is broken (from the built in laptop mics), it i will 
record audio for duration x, and save it as a file, however if the 
threshold is broken again during duration x, duration x is reset and 
only saves out the file until the threshold isnt broken for duration 
x. when the file is done recording, and the threshold is broken again, 
I would like it to start recording another file. the reason I'm making 
this is because ive been made aware that i've been saying strange 
things in my sleep (that i dont remember), and I wanted to try and 
record them. Eventually with the onboard webcam too, but just audio 
for now.

I'm not sure I'd want to know if *I* I say strange things during sleep :)


I'm sure there are simpler ways to do what im doing, and I'm open to 
suggestions (or if there are other patches out there like this).


The three problems Im having at the moment are:
1) I had "del" or "delay" working for awhile, but then it mysteriously 
stopped working. even when i delete it and repatch it. if you click 
"resets counter" there's a bang both before and after the "del 5000" 
on the lower right. i have no idea why or how to fix it.
There should be a [sel 1] between the [<= 1] and the [delay] otherwise 
the [delay] gets a 0 or a 1
2) I'm having a hard time figuring out how to keep the file recording 
when the threshold is broken during duration x. The problem is that 
the way I have it set up, is that if the threshold is broken again, it 
will initialize a new file to be written, which I 
You have to set it up so that once the threshold is broken you ignore 
further breaks, unless the signal goes back down. Look at [spigot] for 
example. In this case though you may also want to add a 'hold' time 
before resetting this when the threshold goes down especially if the 
signal can be very uneven or with abrupt bursts.
Have a look at this trigger I made (it does something different but the 
basic principle is the same: do something if a volume threshold is 
broken): http://lorenzosu.altervista.org/pd/trigger/


can't figure out how to bypass. Perhaps "load banging" an open message 
for the initial file to be written, and then the subsequent ones can 
be initialized after the previous has finished writing? However I 
think it would be better is:
3) So far I've only devised a very wonky way of recording the next 
file. If you click on "pd recordingsel" in the upper left, you can see 
how I've set it up with switches and a limited amount of files ready 
to be made. I know there must be a better way to do this, so that it 
will just continuously record new files with virtually no limit.

Yes: look at [makefilename] and attach a counter to it something like

[f 0]X[+ 1]
|
[makefilename sleeprecord%02d.wav]

This will generate sybols sleeprecord00.wav, sleeprecord01.wav etc. at 
each bang at the [f]


Good luck,
Lorenzo.


Thanks for helping a newbie!

Olivia


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[PD] Radeon HD3200 or HD4330 with Gem

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I need a bunch of cheap machines for Gem, just showing images and  
maybe a video, so nothing heavy on the GPU.  Has anyone used the ATI  
Radeon HD3200 or HD4330 with Debian/Ubuntu and GEM?  They are supposed  
to work with fglrx, but my biggest concern is whether the HDMI port  
will work.


(Unfortunately, I had to go with Dell as a vendor for everything, so  
no fancy 6-port video cards for me.  Thanks for the recommendations  
tho).


.hc




As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be  
glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and  
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Re: [PD] mbrola for pd?

[tim vets]

2010/6/10 fp 

> hi
> i know there is one for max and something on sc so i was wondering: is
> there a pd object for mbrola?
> alternatively, any other speech synthesis implementations usable from pd?
> thanks
>
>
flite~, though i think it is less sophisticated than maxmbrola...

*'flite' is a PD external which provides a high-level
**text-to-speech interface for English based on the
**'libflite' library by Alan W Black and Kevin A. Lenzo.
(from: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-announce/2002-11/000125.html )

*



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Re: [PD] mbrola for pd?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Try:

[moocow/flite]

or on Mac OS X:

[say hello world(
|
[popen]

.hc

On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:59 AM, fp wrote:


hi
i know there is one for max and something on sc so i was wondering: is
there a pd object for mbrola?
alternatively, any other speech synthesis implementations usable  
from pd?

thanks

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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Jun 10, 2010, at 9:21 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:


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On 06/10/2010 04:05 AM, Kim Cascone wrote:

yeah that is what was happening
it keeps loading the old one here instead of seeing the new one in my
pd-externals dir:


allright.
Pd-extended often makes it a bit difficult to isolate things like  
that.


this is how i do it (and it's probably a good idea :-)

- - go to plugin-sources
- - compile with scons
- - run Pd with the "-noprefs" flag
- - open your plugin~-testpatch

so the trick is to use "-noprefs", which will make Pd(X) ignore the
.pdsettings/.pdrc, so no libraries are loaded by default nor any paths
are added but the "standard" ones ("extra/")




so I replaced the old plugin~ in /flatspace/ with todays build
deleted the old paths to the /plugin~ dir I created

launched PdX and console message was:
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/plugin~.pd_linux and succeeded

I opened my test patch: 'plugin~June9.pd'

tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/plugin~.pd_linux and succeeded
verbose( 1):plugin~: found plugin "amp" in library
"/usr/lib/ladspa/amp_1181.so"
verbose( 1):plugin~: constructed plugin "Simple amplifier"  
successfully

verbose( 1):plugin~: plugin ports: audio 1/1 ctrl 1/0
verbose( 1):plugin~: plugin active
plugin~: "Simple amplifier"



good.



then I sent down both [listplugins] and [info]
but they still make PdX crash


bad.

when does it crash?
when sending "listplugins" or when sending "info", or still with both?




I launched pd -stderr


unfortunately this gives loads of uninteresting info, and no  
interesting

info.

better would be:
$ cd path/to/plugin~
$ pd -noprefs -stderr -verbose -verbose plugin~-June08.pd


and see if something more interesting comes out of it.

also;
would it be possible to run it within gdb?

and/or send me the test-patch and your /usr/lib/ladspa/amp_1181.so


I did get random crashes on Mac OS X, but now I can 't reproduce  
them.  Its working for me.  I improved the help file in the process of  
testing.


.hc



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[PD] problems with an "outburst" recorder

[O.]

hello. Im fairly new to pd, and am trying to write a patch that when a
volume threshold is broken (from the built in laptop mics), it i will record
audio for duration x, and save it as a file, however if the threshold is
broken again during duration x, duration x is reset and only saves out the
file until the threshold isnt broken for duration x. when the file is done
recording, and the threshold is broken again, I would like it to start
recording another file. the reason I'm making this is because ive been made
aware that i've been saying strange things in my sleep (that i dont
remember), and I wanted to try and record them. Eventually with the onboard
webcam too, but just audio for now.

I'm sure there are simpler ways to do what im doing, and I'm open to
suggestions (or if there are other patches out there like this).

The three problems Im having at the moment are:
1) I had "del" or "delay" working for awhile, but then it mysteriously
stopped working. even when i delete it and repatch it. if you click "resets
counter" there's a bang both before and after the "del 5000" on the lower
right. i have no idea why or how to fix it.
2) I'm having a hard time figuring out how to keep the file recording when
the threshold is broken during duration x. The problem is that the way I
have it set up, is that if the threshold is broken again, it will initialize
a new file to be written, which I can't figure out how to bypass. Perhaps
"load banging" an open message for the initial file to be written, and then
the subsequent ones can be initialized after the previous has finished
writing? However I think it would be better is:
3) So far I've only devised a very wonky way of recording the next file. If
you click on "pd recordingsel" in the upper left, you can see how I've set
it up with switches and a limited amount of files ready to be made. I know
there must be a better way to do this, so that it will just continuously
record new files with virtually no limit.

Thanks for helping a newbie!

Olivia


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[PD] mbrola for pd?

[fp]

hi
i know there is one for max and something on sc so i was wondering: is
there a pd object for mbrola?
alternatively, any other speech synthesis implementations usable from pd?
thanks

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Re: [PD] finding index from table value

[William Brent]

My tabletool extern does this.  There's an [equals( function that
returns the number of occurrences of a value and their indices.

http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html#tabletool



On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Alexandre Porres  wrote:
> hi folks, is there any easy and straightforward way to find what is the
> index, on a table, of some value? Like by sending to some object its value?
> thanks
> alex
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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

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On 06/10/2010 04:05 AM, Kim Cascone wrote:
> yeah that is what was happening
> it keeps loading the old one here instead of seeing the new one in my
> pd-externals dir:

allright.
Pd-extended often makes it a bit difficult to isolate things like that.

this is how i do it (and it's probably a good idea :-)

- - go to plugin-sources
- - compile with scons
- - run Pd with the "-noprefs" flag
- - open your plugin~-testpatch

so the trick is to use "-noprefs", which will make Pd(X) ignore the
.pdsettings/.pdrc, so no libraries are loaded by default nor any paths
are added but the "standard" ones ("extra/")

> 
> 
> so I replaced the old plugin~ in /flatspace/ with todays build
> deleted the old paths to the /plugin~ dir I created
> 
> launched PdX and console message was:
> tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/plugin~.pd_linux and succeeded
> 
> I opened my test patch: 'plugin~June9.pd'
> 
> tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/plugin~.pd_linux and succeeded
> verbose( 1):plugin~: found plugin "amp" in library
> "/usr/lib/ladspa/amp_1181.so"
> verbose( 1):plugin~: constructed plugin "Simple amplifier" successfully
> verbose( 1):plugin~: plugin ports: audio 1/1 ctrl 1/0
> verbose( 1):plugin~: plugin active
> plugin~: "Simple amplifier"
> 

good.

> 
> then I sent down both [listplugins] and [info]
> but they still make PdX crash

bad.

when does it crash?
when sending "listplugins" or when sending "info", or still with both?


> 
> I launched pd -stderr

unfortunately this gives loads of uninteresting info, and no interesting
info.

better would be:
$ cd path/to/plugin~
$ pd -noprefs -stderr -verbose -verbose plugin~-June08.pd


and see if something more interesting comes out of it.

also;
would it be possible to run it within gdb?

and/or send me the test-patch and your /usr/lib/ladspa/amp_1181.so

mfgasdr
IOhannes


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Re: [PD] plugin~ external

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On 06/10/2010 04:21 AM, Kim Cascone wrote:
> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>
>> I think you meant to CC the list :-)  It was working for me, but I've
>> never actually used it for anything.
> ***another question I have is:
> if I get a message in the console when a plugin instantiates such as
> 
> verbose( 1):plugin~: plugin ports: audio 1/1 ctrl 1/0
> 
> what is the correct nomenclature to use to control a plugin when using
> [plugin~] in a patch?
> 

i'm not sure whether i understand your question.
the output means, that the plugin has 1 audio input, 1 audio output, 1
control input and 0 control outputs.

it doesn't say anything about how to use the control. this can be
queried via "info" (if this doesn't crash)

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Re: [PD] http://puredata.info/ Proxy error

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On 06/10/2010 05:35 AM, ailo wrote:
> The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
> The proxy server could not handle the request /GET / /.
> 
> Is it only me?

no.

as soon as i left graz for belfast, the server crashed

i have restarted it, so it should be running again.

i don't think this is related to the DNS issue, just in case anybody
wonders...

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Re: [PD] finding index from table value

[Martin Peach]

Alexandre Porres wrote:
hi folks, is there any easy and straightforward way to find what is the 
index, on a table, of some value? Like by sending to some object its value?


Maybe [mrpeach/tabfind]?

Martin



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Re: [PD] finding index from table value

[Jack]

With [tabdump] (from zexy) and [list-find] (from list-abs), it should be
possible.
++

Jack


Le jeudi 10 juin 2010 à 00:40 -0400, Alexandre Porres a écrit :
> hi folks, is there any easy and straightforward way to find what is
> the index, on a table, of some value? Like by sending to some object
> its value?
> 
> 
> thanks
> alex
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[PD] PdCon09 & ISCL 2009 Brasil :Photos

[Sergi Lario]

Hello list!

Tha last days I've uploaded the photos that gave me my camera of the pdcon09
and ISCL 2009.

:Better late than never

Enjoy the photos and open to comments,

Sergi.
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