Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)
> That's funny. I thought the whole 0.43 thing was about putting the > tcl/tk into one place. In 0.42 the tcl/tk (one of the slowest languages > around) is all over the Pd code, not just in pd.tk. > > Martin I guess drawing/erase commands are all over pd's code but this is easily identified and replaced with appropriate draw/select/unselect/delete commands, hence personally I don't feel this will be an issue. What will be a much greater issue is porting all the custom externals from other libs to be supported under the new toolkit (whatever that may be). ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] plugin to make menu look like Ubuntu Maverick
I was just playing with the menubar in 0.43, and thought I'd try to
make it look like the menubars in Ubuntu/Maverick. This one-liner
gets really close, the color might be slightly of:
.menubar configure -background grey19 -foreground white -borderwidth 0
-font {Ubuntu 11}
Just drop this file into ~/pd-externals and launch 0.43:
ubuntu_maverick_menu-plugin.tcl
Description: Binary data
.hc
¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!
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Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)
On Dec 5, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Martin Peach wrote: On 2010-12-05 21:34, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: 3) 0.42.5 code-base is IMHO more friendly towards porting the entire thing to a different toolkit as all tcl/tk stuff is encapsulated into one (albeit ugly) big file. As such, I see it as a better springboard for such a transition. That's funny. I thought the whole 0.43 thing was about putting the tcl/tk into one place. In 0.42 the tcl/tk (one of the slowest languages around) is all over the Pd code, not just in pd.tk. That's a longer term goal, but 0.43 was more limited in scope. Basically the whole 'pd-gui' part was rewritten in only Tcl/Tk (no C), and some changes were made on the 'pd' side to streamline those changes. .hc Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)
On 2010-12-05 21:34, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: 3) 0.42.5 code-base is IMHO more friendly towards porting the entire thing to a different toolkit as all tcl/tk stuff is encapsulated into one (albeit ugly) big file. As such, I see it as a better springboard for such a transition. That's funny. I thought the whole 0.43 thing was about putting the tcl/tk into one place. In 0.42 the tcl/tk (one of the slowest languages around) is all over the Pd code, not just in pd.tk. Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian
Yeah, I think that's the case, its been discussed before: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-ot/2006-01/001371.html .hc On Dec 5, 2010, at 8:54 PM, John Harrison wrote: I was curious, since EffecTV is GPL and a significant part of PiDiP is a port of EffecTV --- does this make an impact on what licenses are valid for PiDiP? -John On 12/05/2010 07:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: berlios is based in Germany, but I think they have similar restrictions on the license. .hc On Dec 5, 2010, at 2:50 PM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, you're totally right that we should get out of sourceforge, that grants more rights to US citizens than to others. we can find a domain in .fi, .de, .ch or .nl, if you know what i mean. so yeh you can remove unauthorized and pidip from sourceforge. ciao, sevy pd _ and could you leave me in peace _forever_ ? thank you Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You'll also have to consider SourceForge's Terms of Use, which seem to disallow software with licenses that do not fit into the Open Source Definition. (from http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/What%20projects%20qualify%20for%20hosting%20at%20SourceForge.net?) # The software involved must be licensed under an Open Source license. (from http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/Controversial%20project%20hosting) Notes on the application of the Open Source Definition ¶ The Open Source Definition requires that all Open Source licenses not limit the ways or people that are permitted to use the software. Though some developers of software may wish to prevent illegitimate use, the following should be kept in mind: * You can't restrict the way folks use your software, only make recommendations. That is: You cannot say that your software will not be used to commit a crime, or for military purposes; but you can recommend against breaking laws or using the software for military purposes, or the operaton of nuclear power facilities. No discrimination against purpose of use. * You can't restrict who can use your software: business, military, individuals, individuals with past criminal record can all use your software alike. No discrimination against people. * You can't license your software to prohibit use by T7 countries, but you can include clauses to note the requirements placed on the licensee by the US Government, and state that users should abide by all applicable laws. .hc On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:16 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, pidip and unauthorized are now published with a non-standard license that says : the code published here can be studied, modified, used by anyone that provides all the original credits and sources in derivative projects. there are restrictions on its use, it cannot be used for : * military amd/or repressive use * commercial installations and products * any project that promotes : racism, nationalism, xenophobia, sexism, homophobia, religious hatred or missionarism .. ( expandable list) this is not a standard license. sevy. ciao, sevy I hate it when they say, "He gave his life for his country." Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. -Admiral Gene LeRocque If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)
> The argument as I understand it is that all your patches apply to > 0.42-5. So pick the simplest feature or bugfix you've implemented > and submit it as a patch for 0.43. If you get feedback and/or it > gets merged, end of discouragement. If you don't, then the > development process is broken and needs fixing. > > If I knew how I'd do it myself. Even if I had the time to do this (meaning learn 0.43 code base), it is not that simple. I actually prefer 0.42.5 over 0.43 for several reasons: 1) 0.42.5 is now rather stable while 0.43 is still evolving (AFAIK) and as such it is IMHO not production ready. In due time this will change but AFAIK 0.43 is not there yet. 2) 0.43 will likely never merge some of the UI L2Ork improvements as they are for the lack of a better word a hack, a temporary fix if you like until something better comes around to replace aging Tcl/Tk. 3) 0.42.5 code-base is IMHO more friendly towards porting the entire thing to a different toolkit as all tcl/tk stuff is encapsulated into one (albeit ugly) big file. As such, I see it as a better springboard for such a transition. FWIW, I did some digging through the Juce platform and it is rather amazing. I will dig a bit more to see how quickly one could port the core Pd. I also understand that this process will undoubtedly require a huge rewrite of all gui-based externals but sometimes one simply has to take a fews steps back to start leaping forward. Just my 1-cents worth... Ico ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian
I was curious, since EffecTV is GPL and a significant part of PiDiP is a port of EffecTV --- does this make an impact on what licenses are valid for PiDiP? -John On 12/05/2010 07:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: berlios is based in Germany, but I think they have similar restrictions on the license. .hc On Dec 5, 2010, at 2:50 PM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, you're totally right that we should get out of sourceforge, that grants more rights to US citizens than to others. we can find a domain in .fi, .de, .ch or .nl, if you know what i mean. so yeh you can remove unauthorized and pidip from sourceforge. ciao, sevy pd _ and could you leave me in peace _forever_ ? thank you Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You'll also have to consider SourceForge's Terms of Use, which seem to disallow software with licenses that do not fit into the Open Source Definition. (from http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/What%20projects%20qualify%20for%20hosting%20at%20SourceForge.net?) # The software involved must be licensed under an Open Source license. (from http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/Controversial%20project%20hosting) Notes on the application of the Open Source Definition ¶ The Open Source Definition requires that all Open Source licenses not limit the ways or people that are permitted to use the software. Though some developers of software may wish to prevent illegitimate use, the following should be kept in mind: * You can't restrict the way folks use your software, only make recommendations. That is: You cannot say that your software will not be used to commit a crime, or for military purposes; but you can recommend against breaking laws or using the software for military purposes, or the operaton of nuclear power facilities. No discrimination against purpose of use. * You can't restrict who can use your software: business, military, individuals, individuals with past criminal record can all use your software alike. No discrimination against people. * You can't license your software to prohibit use by T7 countries, but you can include clauses to note the requirements placed on the licensee by the US Government, and state that users should abide by all applicable laws. .hc On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:16 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, pidip and unauthorized are now published with a non-standard license that says : the code published here can be studied, modified, used by anyone that provides all the original credits and sources in derivative projects. there are restrictions on its use, it cannot be used for : * military amd/or repressive use * commercial installations and products * any project that promotes : racism, nationalism, xenophobia, sexism, homophobia, religious hatred or missionarism .. ( expandable list) this is not a standard license. sevy. ciao, sevy I hate it when they say, "He gave his life for his country." Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. -Admiral Gene LeRocque If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian
Hi list... a big issue, however ... PiDiP remain in extended pd libraries? Best regards José 2010/12/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner > > berlios is based in Germany, but I think they have similar restrictions on > the license. > > .hc > > > On Dec 5, 2010, at 2:50 PM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: > > ola, >> >> >> you're totally right that we should get out of sourceforge, >> that grants more rights to US citizens than to others. >> >> we can find a domain in .fi, .de, .ch or .nl, >> if you know what i mean. >> >> so yeh you can remove unauthorized and pidip from sourceforge. >> >> ciao, >> sevy >> >> pd _ and could you leave me in peace _forever_ ? thank you >> >> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >>> >>> You'll also have to consider SourceForge's Terms of Use, which seem to >>> disallow software with licenses that do not fit into the Open Source >>> Definition. >>> >>> (from >>> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/What%20projects%20qualify%20for%20hosting%20at%20SourceForge.net >>> ?) >>> >>> # The software involved must be licensed under an Open Source license. >>> >>> >>> (from >>> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/Controversial%20project%20hosting >>> ) >>> Notes on the application of the Open Source Definition ¶ >>> >>> The Open Source Definition requires that all Open Source licenses not >>> limit the ways or people that are permitted to use the software. Though some >>> developers of software may wish to prevent illegitimate use, the following >>> should be kept in mind: >>> >>> * You can't restrict the way folks use your software, only make >>> recommendations. That is: You cannot say that your software will not be used >>> to commit a crime, or for military purposes; but you can recommend against >>> breaking laws or using the software for military purposes, or the operaton >>> of nuclear power facilities. No discrimination against purpose of use. >>> * You can't restrict who can use your software: business, military, >>> individuals, individuals with past criminal record can all use your software >>> alike. No discrimination against people. >>> * You can't license your software to prohibit use by T7 countries, but >>> you can include clauses to note the requirements placed on the licensee by >>> the US Government, and state that users should abide by all applicable laws. >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:16 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> ola, pidip and unauthorized are now published with a non-standard license that says : the code published here can be studied, modified, used by anyone that provides all the original credits and sources in derivative projects. there are restrictions on its use, it cannot be used for : * military amd/or repressive use * commercial installations and products * any project that promotes : racism, nationalism, xenophobia, sexism, homophobia, religious hatred or missionarism .. ( expandable list) this is not a standard license. sevy. ciao, sevy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I hate it when they say, "He gave his life for his country." Nobody >>> gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. -Admiral >>> Gene LeRocque >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. > > > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd+pachube+python
Hi
I am trying to comunicate pd with data coming from pachube (www.pachube.com)
using a python script. The script ask for data from pachube web and convert
the data to OSC protocol. Then the OSC mesagge is sent to pd. Pd recibe the
OSC mesagge but something is wrong when unpack and route the data.
Data can not get in a number box object, this error mesagge is diplayed in
console: error: gatom: no method for '1'
The python script
# to receive data
import urllib2
# to send on with OpenSoundControl, OSC
from simpleOSC import *
import time
initOSCClient('127.0.0.1', 57110)
while 1:
data=urllib2.urlopen('
http://api.pachube.com/v2/feeds/2791.csv?key=hereyourcode')
for l in data:
d = l.strip().split(",", 2)
print d
sendOSCMsg('/test/num',d[0])
sendOSCMsg('/test/val',d[2])
time.sleep(5) # wait here some secs
the patch
#N canvas 599 0 450 476 10;
#X declare -lib mrpeach;
#X obj -217 25 import mrpeach;
#X obj -220 112 unpackOSC;
#X floatatom -219 277 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X obj -214 148 routeOSC /test;
#X obj -191 348 print;
#X floatatom -150 281 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X obj -219 66 udpreceive 57110;
#X floatatom -92 290 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X obj -204 205 routeOSC /val /num;
#X connect 1 0 3 0;
#X connect 3 0 8 0;
#X connect 6 0 1 0;
#X connect 8 0 2 0;
#X connect 8 1 5 0;
#X connect 8 1 4 0;
#X connect 8 2 7 0;
any idea?
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Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)
--- On Mon, 12/6/10, i...@vt.edu wrote: > From: i...@vt.edu > Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based > on 0.42.x branch) > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" , "'PD List'" > Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 1:16 AM > > And where does merging your > changes in with pd-extended 0.43 fit > > into all this? > > Not sure. I've submitted at least half-dozen patches into > the sourceforge > already and many more via mailing list and only a fraction > of them have been > looked at, and even less merged. Granted, some of them are > somewhat > controversial (e.g. revamping the scrolling algorithm), yet > with such a low > response rate one certainly feels discouraged in > contributing further, The argument as I understand it is that all your patches apply to 0.42-5. So pick the simplest feature or bugfix you've implemented and submit it as a patch for 0.43. If you get feedback and/or it gets merged, end of discouragement. If you don't, then the development process is broken and needs fixing. If I knew how I'd do it myself. -Jonathan > particularly considering just how time-consuming > fragmenting improvements into > sub-patches can be. OTOH, I do understand just how hard it > can be for one > to maintain code when there are a bunch of patches > trickling in at all > times--it's a full-time job in and of itself, particularly > in respect to > regressions. Yet, having spent good two weeks chasing > exactly such regressions > and IMHO improving editor experience to the point where > both show-stopping as > well as usability bugs have been by and large squashed, I > certainly hope they > will find their way eventually into the core Pd. The code > produced so far has > been clean and (apart from fprintf's for debugging purposes > that are currently > commented out awaiting further potential development) > should be rather easy to > merge into the main trunk. The real question is whether > Hans, or perhaps more > importantly Miller will find doing so to be of their > interest. > > All that said, I think I'll continue to maintain a L2Ork > variation until either > its feature-set becomes synonymous with the core Pd package > or there is no more > reason to maintain it (and FWIW as of right now there are > plenty, so I don't see > me stopping the support anytime soon). > > Cheers! > > Ico > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian
berlios is based in Germany, but I think they have similar restrictions on the license. .hc On Dec 5, 2010, at 2:50 PM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, you're totally right that we should get out of sourceforge, that grants more rights to US citizens than to others. we can find a domain in .fi, .de, .ch or .nl, if you know what i mean. so yeh you can remove unauthorized and pidip from sourceforge. ciao, sevy pd _ and could you leave me in peace _forever_ ? thank you Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You'll also have to consider SourceForge's Terms of Use, which seem to disallow software with licenses that do not fit into the Open Source Definition. (from http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/What%20projects%20qualify%20for%20hosting%20at%20SourceForge.net?) # The software involved must be licensed under an Open Source license. (from http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/Controversial%20project%20hosting) Notes on the application of the Open Source Definition ¶ The Open Source Definition requires that all Open Source licenses not limit the ways or people that are permitted to use the software. Though some developers of software may wish to prevent illegitimate use, the following should be kept in mind: * You can't restrict the way folks use your software, only make recommendations. That is: You cannot say that your software will not be used to commit a crime, or for military purposes; but you can recommend against breaking laws or using the software for military purposes, or the operaton of nuclear power facilities. No discrimination against purpose of use. * You can't restrict who can use your software: business, military, individuals, individuals with past criminal record can all use your software alike. No discrimination against people. * You can't license your software to prohibit use by T7 countries, but you can include clauses to note the requirements placed on the licensee by the US Government, and state that users should abide by all applicable laws. .hc On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:16 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, pidip and unauthorized are now published with a non-standard license that says : the code published here can be studied, modified, used by anyone that provides all the original credits and sources in derivative projects. there are restrictions on its use, it cannot be used for : * military amd/or repressive use * commercial installations and products * any project that promotes : racism, nationalism, xenophobia, sexism, homophobia, religious hatred or missionarism .. ( expandable list) this is not a standard license. sevy. ciao, sevy I hate it when they say, "He gave his life for his country." Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. -Admiral Gene LeRocque If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
> > For starters, all tests/#fft-test*.pd crash as soon as you trigger the > > bang/toggle that starts the patch (they open/close ok). No warnings on > > console or in pd's printout. > > Ah. I know that there are bugs in [#fft], but I don't know that one. Does > that also happen to you in pd-extended, or not ? Not sure. Haven't tried. Ico ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)
> And where does merging your changes in with pd-extended 0.43 fit > into all this? Not sure. I've submitted at least half-dozen patches into the sourceforge already and many more via mailing list and only a fraction of them have been looked at, and even less merged. Granted, some of them are somewhat controversial (e.g. revamping the scrolling algorithm), yet with such a low response rate one certainly feels discouraged in contributing further, particularly considering just how time-consuming fragmenting improvements into sub-patches can be. OTOH, I do understand just how hard it can be for one to maintain code when there are a bunch of patches trickling in at all times--it's a full-time job in and of itself, particularly in respect to regressions. Yet, having spent good two weeks chasing exactly such regressions and IMHO improving editor experience to the point where both show-stopping as well as usability bugs have been by and large squashed, I certainly hope they will find their way eventually into the core Pd. The code produced so far has been clean and (apart from fprintf's for debugging purposes that are currently commented out awaiting further potential development) should be rather easy to merge into the main trunk. The real question is whether Hans, or perhaps more importantly Miller will find doing so to be of their interest. All that said, I think I'll continue to maintain a L2Ork variation until either its feature-set becomes synonymous with the core Pd package or there is no more reason to maintain it (and FWIW as of right now there are plenty, so I don't see me stopping the support anytime soon). Cheers! Ico ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] real-time a/v
Am 05.12.2010 um 20:03 schrieb t'es in t'es bat: > hello > very good work > i like it so much > and i have lot of questions on how it was made... Hi and thanks! It was made by thinking, and learning from the help patches and this mailing list. To make it even easier for others I've prepared these patches: http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Audiovideo cheers. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:50 PM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: > ola, > > > you're totally right that we should get out of sourceforge, > that grants more rights to US citizens than to others. > > we can find a domain in .fi, .de, .ch or .nl, > if you know what i mean. > > so yeh you can remove unauthorized and pidip from sourceforge. > > ciao, > sevy > > pd _ and could you leave me in peace _forever_ ? thank you > You are on a mailing list. Of course, you can unsubscribe, and build a bunker from armchairs and matresses and ban adults. Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)
--- On Sun, 12/5/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic > Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based > on 0.42.x branch) > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" , "Hans-Christoph Steiner" > > Cc: "'PD List'" > Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 3:33 AM > Great suggestion! That might work > quite nicely. We only have to make sure for legacy purposes > that wherever in the old code this variable is being checked > that it can gracefully handle values less than 0. > > That said, my top priority as of right now is further > testing current code as well as continuing to work on my > neck piece. Beyond that I would like to make all iem objects > resizable via GUI, revamp the to-front and to-back algorithm > so that it does not rely upon undo, followed by an > "infinite" undo, and then tooltips, improved color picker, > improve upon the tidy algorithm, and then weed through the > documentation and externals and only keep those that are > well maintained and are not redundant. Your suggestion might > fit nicely somewhere inside here as well. And where does merging your changes in with pd-extended 0.43 fit into all this? > > I would also like to see Qt-ified (or better yet > juce-ified) version of the whole thing. This will however > have to wait. > > Long story short it might be a while before I make the > next big push. In the meantime, as always, contributions > will be most welcome provided they do not break the > backwards compatibility. > > Cheers! > > Ico > > Jonathan Wilkes > wrote: > > >Hi Ivica, > > Since you've been rooting > around in the Pd source, I wanted to > >bring up an idea about canvas properties and get your > opinion on it: > > > >If you look at the coords for a particular canvas, the > 7th argument > >currently controls GOP status. > > > >0 = no GOP > >1 = GOP > >2 = GOP + hide args > > > >But what if this argument were thought of as > controlling canvas visibility in a more general way: > > > >-2 = no menu, no scroll > >-1 = no menu > >0 = normal > >1 = GOP > >2 = GOP + hide args > > > >That way it's not necessary to use an abstraction to > hide the menu, > >plus it can be set the way it should be set-- in the > canvas > >properties menu. > > > >-Jonathan > > > > > > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd in ubuntu 8.04: pd hijacks alsa?
This is somewhat of a complete newb issue so I apologize up front for that... However, it seems that I cannot use pdextended and watch a youtube video at the same time (the youtube vid is a pd tutorial). Here's what it's starting with: pasuspender -- /usr/bin/pdextended -alsa %F Is it absolutely necessary to start pd with 'pasuspender'? When I don't (i.e. start it like this: '/usr/bin/pdextended -alsa' ), I get a bunch of 'device or resource busy' messages in the terminal and I don't get any audio when doing the whold testtone thing). Is there any way around this? It'd be nice to follow along with the tutorials in youtube (on the same computer). Thanks! -Aaron ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian
ola, you're totally right that we should get out of sourceforge, that grants more rights to US citizens than to others. we can find a domain in .fi, .de, .ch or .nl, if you know what i mean. so yeh you can remove unauthorized and pidip from sourceforge. ciao, sevy pd _ and could you leave me in peace _forever_ ? thank you Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You'll also have to consider SourceForge's Terms of Use, which seem to disallow software with licenses that do not fit into the Open Source Definition. (from http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/What%20projects%20qualify%20for%20hosting%20at%20SourceForge.net?) # The software involved must be licensed under an Open Source license. (from http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/Controversial%20project%20hosting) Notes on the application of the Open Source Definition ¶ The Open Source Definition requires that all Open Source licenses not limit the ways or people that are permitted to use the software. Though some developers of software may wish to prevent illegitimate use, the following should be kept in mind: * You can't restrict the way folks use your software, only make recommendations. That is: You cannot say that your software will not be used to commit a crime, or for military purposes; but you can recommend against breaking laws or using the software for military purposes, or the operaton of nuclear power facilities. No discrimination against purpose of use. * You can't restrict who can use your software: business, military, individuals, individuals with past criminal record can all use your software alike. No discrimination against people. * You can't license your software to prohibit use by T7 countries, but you can include clauses to note the requirements placed on the licensee by the US Government, and state that users should abide by all applicable laws. .hc On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:16 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, pidip and unauthorized are now published with a non-standard license that says : the code published here can be studied, modified, used by anyone that provides all the original credits and sources in derivative projects. there are restrictions on its use, it cannot be used for : * military amd/or repressive use * commercial installations and products * any project that promotes : racism, nationalism, xenophobia, sexism, homophobia, religious hatred or missionarism .. ( expandable list) this is not a standard license. sevy. ciao, sevy I hate it when they say, "He gave his life for his country." Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. -Admiral Gene LeRocque ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] import-disabled list-abs
[import] is definitely not deprecated. I've never seen 'import- disabled' before, that's very strange. .hc On Dec 3, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Luka Princic // Nova deViator wrote: hi, i'm working on an abstraction that contains an object from a library for which i need to create [import nusmuk] in order to use ([granulator]). when i create a new instance of that abstraction, pd console reports import-disabled list-abs ... couldn't create could someone explain what this error means? is it deprecated to use [import] and i should rather use syntax like [nusmuk/granulator] ? l. -- sujet est machinique! Nova deViator ¤ http://deviator.si ¤ http://skylined.org ¤ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian
You'll also have to consider SourceForge's Terms of Use, which seem to disallow software with licenses that do not fit into the Open Source Definition. (from http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/What%20projects%20qualify%20for%20hosting%20at%20SourceForge.net?) # The software involved must be licensed under an Open Source license. (from http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/Controversial%20project%20hosting) Notes on the application of the Open Source Definition ¶ The Open Source Definition requires that all Open Source licenses not limit the ways or people that are permitted to use the software. Though some developers of software may wish to prevent illegitimate use, the following should be kept in mind: * You can't restrict the way folks use your software, only make recommendations. That is: You cannot say that your software will not be used to commit a crime, or for military purposes; but you can recommend against breaking laws or using the software for military purposes, or the operaton of nuclear power facilities. No discrimination against purpose of use. * You can't restrict who can use your software: business, military, individuals, individuals with past criminal record can all use your software alike. No discrimination against people. * You can't license your software to prohibit use by T7 countries, but you can include clauses to note the requirements placed on the licensee by the US Government, and state that users should abide by all applicable laws. .hc On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:16 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, pidip and unauthorized are now published with a non-standard license that says : the code published here can be studied, modified, used by anyone that provides all the original credits and sources in derivative projects. there are restrictions on its use, it cannot be used for : * military amd/or repressive use * commercial installations and products * any project that promotes : racism, nationalism, xenophobia, sexism, homophobia, religious hatred or missionarism .. ( expandable list) this is not a standard license. sevy. ciao, sevy I hate it when they say, "He gave his life for his country." Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. - Admiral Gene LeRocque ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] real-time a/v
hello very good work i like it so much and i have lot of questions on how it was made... cheers -- TNTB t'es in t'es bat 7 place Favier 13210 St Remy de Provence T/: 04 90 26 95 09 P/: 06 86 86 12 19 | http://www.tntb.net LOVES LePôle travaille sur le fil des accidents, des fractures, des bugs informatiques, vidéos. -]>[-]<<[>+>+<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>>> Lepôle cherche , il cause il triture les matières, les bits, les glitch, les formats. Il sort des cadres. [-]<<<+<[>>>+<<[>+>[-]<<-]>[<+>-]>[<<++>>>+< LePôle s'indiscipline dans de multiples tentatives fragile et poetiques. -]<<-<-]+>[<->-]>>+>[<[-]<<+>>>-]>[-]+<<[>+>-<<-]<<< LePôle improvise avec ses valises pleine de machines improbables et généreuse en surprises visuelles... -]<<-<-]+>[<->-]>>+>[<[-]<<+>>>-]>[-]+<<[>+>-<<-]<<< LePôle = numerikexperimentatatonnedebitengigaemotionel // 00 \\ LePôle works on the edge of faults, errors and informatic bugs and videos >+[<+++>-]<[>[ -]>[-]<<[>+>+<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>>> LePôle looks for, causes, fiddles with bytes, glitches and formats. Something out of the ordinary. [-]<<<+<[>>>+<<[>+>[-]<<-]>[<+>-]>[<<++>>>+< LePôle is undisciplined in many endeavours fragile and poetic -]<<-<-]+>[<->-]>>+>[<[-]<<+>>>-]>[-]+<<[>+>-<<-]<<< LePôle improvises with its suitcases full of unlikely machines and visual surprises... -]<<-<-]+>[<->-]>>+>[<[-]<<+>>>-]>[-]+<<[>+>-<<-]<<< LePôle =digitalexperimentationofemotionalgigabytes // ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: For starters, all tests/#fft-test*.pd crash as soon as you trigger the bang/toggle that starts the patch (they open/close ok). No warnings on console or in pd's printout. Ah. I know that there are bugs in [#fft], but I don't know that one. Does that also happen to you in pd-extended, or not ? #many-test.pd misses #many-piece object (located at the bottom-center). Normal... that's for a feature that wasn't finished. The «-test.pd» patches still aren't organised so that anyone can readily see whether things are working or not. That idea alone would be worthy of another coding frenzy (such as the one that led to the current helpfile system of GF...) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] real-time a/v
Very nice! I like how musical it is, that's not easy to do. .hc On Dec 5, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Max wrote: Hi list, i hope you enjoy my (completely uncommercial) work: http://vimeo.com/17474435 made with Pd/Gem. We were filming visitors to a theater festival at the beginning of the show through a mirror without their knowing. during the programm we were selecting snippets from that footage. after the theatre program we were jamming live with that audiovisual material. some of the visitors were not so pleased, but the audience in general loved it. I uploaded it anyway. m.___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] re_ example patches of nqpoly4? and nqpoly~
*Hi, im trying to learn about the posibilities of nqpoly4 and nqpoly~ and i would like to know if there are example patches that uses nqpoly4 or nqpoly~? that somebody can share? thanks R.* attached a very simple sint + seq , adding a osc~ + nqpoly~ -- >>>http://noconventions.mobi/noish #N canvas 6 47 1341 660 10; #X text 137 1067 0 1 2 3 4 5 ..; #X text 407 1069 .15; #N canvas 6 48 1354 659 seeqq 0; #X obj 265 272 + 1; #X obj 219 316 f; #X floatatom 219 343 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 304 158 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 219 138 tgl 15 0 empty onoffseq empty 0 -6 0 10 -162280 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 265 299 mod 16; #X floatatom 220 444 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 220 483 * 800; #X floatatom 325 500 6 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 307 114 hsl 128 15 0 666 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -6 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 6350 1; #X text 564 326 0 1 2 3 4 5 ..; #X text 834 328 .15; #X text 350 411 >>; #X text 206 115 on/off; #X obj 219 174 metro 215; #X obj 325 528 s pitch22; #X text 343 90 time; #X obj 220 411 tabread seq_pitch; #X text 480 306 position; #X text 426 412 read the y(valor) at the x position; #X text 230 387 in x position; #X text 262 445 out y valor; #X text 391 527 send to the oscilator; #X text 261 341 steps; #X obj 567 359 hradio 25 1 0 16 empty empty empty 0 -8 0 10 -262144 -228856 -1 8; #X text 263 484 scaling to freq; #X obj 450 129 s time; #X obj 83 328 random 15; #X obj 604 517 s freq; #X msg 662 81 set seq_pitch; #X msg 662 106 set seq_pitch2; #X msg 664 130 set seq_pitch3; #X msg 662 152 set seq_pitch4; #X msg 667 179 set seq_pitch5; #X msg 668 205 set seq_pitch6; #X msg 667 230 set seq_pitch7; #X floatatom 653 16 5 0 0 0 - select_melody -; #X obj 776 32 select 0 1 2 3 4 5 6; #X obj 157 22 loadbang; #X msg 157 51 333; #X obj 308 64 hsl 128 15 0 1333 0 0 empty time_seq empty -2 -8 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 108 248 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X text 49 254 recive; #X connect 0 0 5 0; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 17 0; #X connect 2 0 24 0; #X connect 3 0 14 1; #X connect 4 0 14 0; #X connect 5 0 1 1; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 8 0 15 0; #X connect 8 0 28 0; #X connect 9 0 3 0; #X connect 9 0 26 0; #X connect 14 0 1 0; #X connect 17 0 6 0; #X connect 29 0 17 0; #X connect 30 0 17 0; #X connect 31 0 17 0; #X connect 32 0 17 0; #X connect 33 0 17 0; #X connect 34 0 17 0; #X connect 35 0 17 0; #X connect 36 0 37 0; #X connect 37 0 29 0; #X connect 37 1 30 0; #X connect 37 2 31 0; #X connect 37 3 32 0; #X connect 37 4 33 0; #X connect 37 5 34 0; #X connect 37 6 35 0; #X connect 38 0 39 0; #X connect 39 0 9 0; #X connect 40 0 3 0; #X connect 41 0 2 0; #X restore 785 259 pd seeqq; #N canvas 6 48 1354 659 sint 0; #X obj 239 111 osc~; #X obj 240 165 *~; #X obj 303 150 hsl 128 15 0 5 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -8 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 318 621 dac~; #X floatatom 239 93 7 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 240 53 hsl 250 15 10 22000 1 0 empty empty empty -2 -8 0 10 -4160 -262144 -1 11348 0; #X text 343 132 volumen; #X obj 241 362 *~; #X obj 344 245 bng 15 250 50 0 bang_envol empty empty 17 7 0 10 -258113 -1 -1; #X text 365 241 >> bang; #N canvas 6 71 800 497 reverb 0; #N canvas 105 328 986 609 fft 0; #X obj 18 500 *~; #X obj 291 455 *~; #X obj 258 454 *~; #X obj 356 456 *~; #X obj 324 455 *~; #X obj 324 477 +~; #X obj 258 479 -~; #X obj 560 383 *~; #X obj 54 124 *~; #X obj 22 124 *~; #X obj 22 145 +~; #X obj 325 82 *~; #X obj 293 82 *~; #X obj 608 312 *~; #X obj 576 312 *~; #X obj 93 63 *~; #X obj 18 522 outlet~; #X obj 18 475 *~; #X obj 126 63 inlet~; #X obj 93 84 rfft~; #X obj 18 451 rifft~; #X obj 576 334 rsqrt~; #X obj 293 103 +~; #X obj 484 383 *~; #X obj 56 499 sig~ 0.0002; #N canvas 167 161 699 396 decision 0; #X obj 49 101 inlet~; #X obj 50 341 outlet~; #X obj 50 183 -~; #X obj 50 226 clip~ 0 1; #X obj 50 204 *~ 1e+20; #X obj 196 98 inlet~; #X text 137 213 stronger than; #X text 139 228 old one; #X obj 274 202 -~; #X obj 288 177 lrshift~ 1; #X obj 274 250 clip~ 0 1; #X obj 274 228 *~ 1e+20; #X obj 450 202 -~; #X obj 450 250 clip~ 0 1; #X obj 450 228 *~ 1e+20; #X obj 464 177 lrshift~ -1; #X obj 50 283 *~; #X obj 50 312 *~; #X text 135 199 1 if new signal; #X text 55 73 new; #X text 203 70 old; #X text 51 12 Choose whether to replace the "lod" signal with the "new" one. The "new" one must be stronger than the old one and also must be stronger than its two neighboring channels; #X text 267 283 1 if we're louder than neighbor; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 0 0 9 0; #X connect 0 0 8 0; #X connect 0 0 12 0; #X connect 0 0 15 0; #X connect 2 0 4 0; #X connect 3 0 16 0; #X connect 4 0 3 0; #X connect 5 0 2 1; #X connect 8 0 11 0; #X connect 9 0 8 1; #X connect 10 0 16 1; #X connect 11 0 10 0; #X connect 12 0 14 0; #X connect 13 0 17 1; #X connect 14 0 13 0; #X connect 15 0 12 1; #X connect 16 0 17 0; #X connect 17 0 1 0; #X restore 23 172 pd decision; #X obj 576 356 *~; #N canvas 276 481 755 363 divide-by-prev 0; #X obj 283 9
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Why would you copy it? My understanding is you declare it per-object to link specific behaviors and there are already examples in code (e.g. g_mycanvas.c). ...meant to say, there are already examples with NULL behaviors. Why would I need examples with null behaviours ? This is beyond me. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: If the pd-l2ork binary of GridFlow happens to work with pd-extended as well, it's a coïncidence... with a picky debugger, you'd find that there is a bug with copying a small t_widgetbehavior as if it were a large one. Why would you copy it? I don't remember, but chances are that it was that on one OS, the t_widgetbehavior that I wanted to modify was in a readonly memory segment. My understanding is you declare it per-object I'd rather have you call it per-class. But anyway, as I said already, I need to modify the widgetbehavior of the comment-class. Nearly 100 % of GF's help-patches depend on it. I guess you could always use pd-l2ork's as a foundation and that will generate backwards-compatible binaries, no? no. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] example patches of nqpoly4? and nqpoly~
While not strickly nqpoly4, there are some examples included in the 'many' lib, which is heavily based on nqpoly4 http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/many .hc On Dec 5, 2010, at 7:24 AM, ronni montoya wrote: Hi, im trying to learn about the posibilities of nqpoly4 and nqpoly~ and i would like to know if there are example patches that uses nqpoly4 or nqpoly~? that somebody can share? thanks R. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
> Why would you copy it? My understanding is you declare it per-object to > link specific behaviors and there are already examples in code (e.g. > g_mycanvas.c). ...meant to say, there are already examples with NULL behaviors. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
For starters, all tests/#fft-test*.pd crash as soon as you trigger the bang/toggle that starts the patch (they open/close ok). No warnings on console or in pd's printout. #many-test.pd misses #many-piece object (located at the bottom-center). When I get a chance, if you like I can create a comprehensive list of issues I've encountered here. Ico On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 12:16 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > > > something with a specific lib gridflow is linked against and/or an > > object within the library rather than point to an incompatibility with > > l2ork iteration of pd. Some objects are also missing inside the patch > > (they fail to be created). > > Can you find which those are ? > > ___ > | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
> This only works because the struct is directly a global variable, and not > a result of malloc. Exactly. > > If the pd-l2ork binary of GridFlow happens to work with pd-extended as > well, it's a coïncidence... with a picky debugger, you'd find that there > is a bug with copying a small t_widgetbehavior as if it were a large one. Why would you copy it? My understanding is you declare it per-object to link specific behaviors and there are already examples in code (e.g. g_mycanvas.c). I guess you could always use pd-l2ork's as a foundation and that will generate backwards-compatible binaries, no? Ico ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] buttonbar GUI plugin
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Pedro Lopes wrote: > just that the icons were picked from a folder, so that people could customise them easily.That's good. Customization is important! :) If you want to know what the two bundled iconsets were looking like, here they are : http://artengine.ca/desiredata/gallery/the_new_look.gif http://artengine.ca/desiredata/gallery/the_new_look_b.gif However, [bng] and [tgl] icons are missing from the latter and I don't remember why. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] buttonbar GUI plugin
> just that the icons were picked from a folder, so that people could customise them easily. That's good. Customization is important! :) On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > Just had a thought, it would be cool to see your buttonbar also >> implemented as an 0.43 plugin, especially since its already well developed. >> > > er, there is not much code in a buttonbar. It's rather pointless to > reimplement it. Apart from the edit mode button/toggle (with two icons : > open hand for edit mode, fist for run mode), the other functional difference > was really just that the icons were picked from a folder, so that people > could customise them easily. > > > ___ > | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: something with a specific lib gridflow is linked against and/or an object within the library rather than point to an incompatibility with l2ork iteration of pd. Some objects are also missing inside the patch (they fail to be created). Can you find which those are ? ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: This is not actually in m_pd.h but in g_canvas.h according to the original pd code. All other includes (apart from g_canvas.h) have remained intact. Ah, yeah. But to me, now, the difference doesn't matter much, as GF comes with both .h files in advance. More so, since this is the last entry and I have a check inside added l2ork code whether this last entry is null before trying to invoke it (and if it is null then fall back to the regular version of displace) it should not require any alteration to the code other than making sure that the source at compile-time is referencing newer version of g_canvas.h. But I want all GF binaries to work on both your pd and pd-extended (and as much as possible pd-vanilla too). I've recompiled most of the externals that come with pd-extended (still waiting to hear back from Hans why the latest SVN snapshot fails to compile flatspace, toxy, and flib) and none of them have any problems whatsoever It just means that none of them are made so that the binaries work on several versions of pd at once. I don't care about those. I want binaries that work on several versions of pd at once. (Can I repeat it once more ?) (sure there is a warning at compile-time how that last widgetbehavior is not initialized properly but that does not matter when the code checks for null pointer before trying to invoke it). This only works because the struct is directly a global variable, and not a result of malloc. If the pd-l2ork binary of GridFlow happens to work with pd-extended as well, it's a coïncidence... with a picky debugger, you'd find that there is a bug with copying a small t_widgetbehavior as if it were a large one. I need some kind of if-statement to fix that. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] buttonbar GUI plugin
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Just had a thought, it would be cool to see your buttonbar also implemented as an 0.43 plugin, especially since its already well developed. er, there is not much code in a buttonbar. It's rather pointless to reimplement it. Apart from the edit mode button/toggle (with two icons : open hand for edit mode, fist for run mode), the other functional difference was really just that the icons were picked from a folder, so that people could customise them easily. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Patch Pure Data + Metro Mon tréal + Performance
nice - feedback is superlekker! ø On 12/03/2010 05:33 PM, matohawk wrote: Hi, Here the last vidéo of the Larseneurs - Feedback. Metro Peel - Montréal - Laptop solo - Pure Data + Gem + Feedback Click here : http://larseneur.net/MetroPeel.htm Thomas ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ETs DNA will not be televised http://hasa-labs.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] example patches of nqpoly4? and nqpoly~
Hi, im trying to learn about the posibilities of nqpoly4 and nqpoly~ and i would like to know if there are example patches that uses nqpoly4 or nqpoly~? that somebody can share? thanks R. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] real-time a/v
Hi list, i hope you enjoy my (completely uncommercial) work: http://vimeo.com/17474435 made with Pd/Gem. We were filming visitors to a theater festival at the beginning of the show through a mirror without their knowing. during the programm we were selecting snippets from that footage. after the theatre program we were jamming live with that audiovisual material. some of the visitors were not so pleased, but the audience in general loved it. I uploaded it anyway. m. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
