Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error

2010-12-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 02:17 +0100, Yvan Volochine wrote: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Mathieu Bouchard > wrote: > BTW, if you use the one called just "v4l1" in [#camera], it > doesn't do the v4l1/v4l2 conversion, so it will work only with > v4l1 drivers. That's why t

Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error

2010-12-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 21:17 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Thu, 23 Dec 2010, Yvan Volochine wrote: > > > any patch (just by opening them) > > even hello-world.pd ? > > What if you create a new patch and put some GridFlow objects in it ? > > > sorry but how do I find out my camera driver ?

Re: [PD] timing

2010-12-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 01:28 +0100, Dietrich Pank wrote: > thank you guys for your answers! > > > I think I understand the basic theory. > Experience is something else... e.g. > line~ and metro doesn't work sample correct even in block~ size 1 Interesting. How did you test that? > vline~ doesn't

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies

2010-12-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 12/22/10, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT > censorship technologies > To: "Marco Donnarumma" > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 8:02 PM > On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Marco

Re: [PD] installing pdgst

2010-12-22 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
Alright, I got pdgst running on Ubuntu 10.04 with pd-extended installed from synaptic using the following command: make PD_SRC=/usr/include GEM_SRC=/usr/include/Base EXT=pd_darwin EXT=pd_darwin SYSTEMCFLAGS="-fPIC" Then I had to add a bunch of the pdgst folders to my paths. This thread got me st

Re: [PD] PD for an alarm?

2010-12-22 Thread Aaron L.
Awesome. Many thanks. On Dec 22, 2010 12:09 PM, "Pedro Lopes" wrote: > > fiddle of a hardcore fft analysis will detect such frequency peak. > > then send a message [ twidge command ( to [shell], this is a SO simple way to send stuff over to twiiter in linux. > > Have fun, > Pedro > > On Wed, Dec

Re: [PD] drag and drop files in pd ?

2010-12-22 Thread patko
great info ty, I'm just installing archlinux I'll choose kde , :) - "Hans-Christoph Steiner" a écrit : > I found some vague information about TkDND only really working with > KDE, > and maybe in specific cases of GNOME. I don't have more info. It > was > in the README I think. but good t

[PD] ANN: Pd-l2ork 20101222 snapshot now available

2010-12-22 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Changes include: *made resize handle smaller to limit obstruction of smaller gui objects *added update of scrollbars upon creation of a new object *fixed scrollbar update regression when typing *fixed cords not showing up on top of objects when objects are first created and placed *added auto-resiz

Re: [PD] drag and drop files in pd ?

2010-12-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I found some vague information about TkDND only really working with KDE, and maybe in specific cases of GNOME. I don't have more info. It was in the README I think. but good to hear it works in Windows at least, and its supposed to work in Mac OS X now. .hc On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 02:27 +0100,

Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error

2010-12-22 Thread Yvan Volochine
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Thu, 23 Dec 2010, Yvan Volochine wrote: > > any patch (just by opening them) >> > > even hello-world.pd ? > yep (but this one crashes after a couple of secs) > What if you create a new patch and put some GridFlow objects in it ? >

Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error

2010-12-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010, Yvan Volochine wrote: any patch (just by opening them) even hello-world.pd ? What if you create a new patch and put some GridFlow objects in it ? sorry but how do I find out my camera driver ? I use a Sony Eye usb cam (from ps3). If your freeze is not related to [#cam

Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error

2010-12-22 Thread Yvan Volochine
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Thu, 23 Dec 2010, Yvan Volochine wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Mathieu Bouchard >> wrote: >> mmh, I updated to maverick (2.6.25-24-generic) and it looks like it was a >> bad idea.. >> any gridflow patch just freezes my

Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error

2010-12-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010, Yvan Volochine wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: mmh, I updated to maverick (2.6.25-24-generic) and it looks like it was a bad idea.. any gridflow patch just freezes my os now :/ Any, or just when you try to get a frame from [#camera] ? I d

Re: [PD] installing pdgst

2010-12-22 Thread Jack
if you dl pdgst source, you have a 'src' folder inside the 'pdgst' folder, right ? open it then open Makefile. ++ Jack Le mercredi 22 décembre 2010 à 19:48 -0600, Ben Baker-Smith a écrit : > I know how to get the pdgst source, and have successful run the > modified Makefile without errors. But

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies

2010-12-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010, Derek Holzer wrote: This is a classic example of the ongoing (mis)communication(s) between artists and scientists. In this case, I think Mathieu is confusing the purpose of art with the purpose of a scientific paper. That's right, the purpose of art is to have no purpose.

Re: [PD] installing pdgst

2010-12-22 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
I know how to get the pdgst source, and have successful run the modified Makefile without errors. But where should I be setting PD_SRC and GEM_SRC in the Makefile? I don't see any "src" folders inside any of my pd or gem folders. Ben Baker-Smith -- http://bitsynthesis.com On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at

Re: [PD] installing pdgst

2010-12-22 Thread Jack
Enter in terminal : svn co https://svn.umlaeute.mur.at/svnroot/zmoelnig/projects/pdgst to download sources. ++ Jack Le mercredi 22 décembre 2010 à 19:32 -0600, Ben Baker-Smith a écrit : > I'm sorry for being daft but there are no "src" folders in my pd or > gem folders. I installed pd-extended

Re: [PD] installing pdgst

2010-12-22 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
I'm sorry for being daft but there are no "src" folders in my pd or gem folders. I installed pd-extended with synaptic package manager. For the Makefile I used /usr/include and /usr/include/Base because the files in these locations matched some of the files in the mac os folders listed in the previ

Re: [PD] drag and drop files in pd ?

2010-12-22 Thread patko
It just drag a file icon from explorer to pd patch and it create the box on the patch, nothing more. I can't capture my windows screen, it's a boring mess, maybe on ubuntu in a few hours... what's wrong with tkdnd? Did you merge pkgindex.tcl content from tktdnd archive into /usr/local/lib/tk8.

Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error

2010-12-22 Thread Yvan Volochine
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > BTW, if you use the one called just "v4l1" in [#camera], it doesn't do the > v4l1/v4l2 conversion, so it will work only with v4l1 drivers. That's why > there is the "libv4l1" option (well, it's also because it does all the color > convers

Re: [PD] installing pdgst

2010-12-22 Thread Jack
When you compile pdgst, you should get 'pdgst.pd_linux' in your 'src' folder. If not, open the makefile and put something like : EXT=pd_linux CC=gcc PD_SRC=/home/jack/pd-0.42-5/src To get 'pix_gst2pix.pd_linux' and 'pix_pix2gst.pd_linux' in 'src/gem', you have to put in makefile something like :

Re: [PD] installing pdgst

2010-12-22 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
I don't get anything like that and I cannot create [pdgst] or any of the pdgst objects. It could have to do with gstreamer, but before I get to that is there anything I need to do to install pdgst besides run the make file (as detailed in the previous link) and move the pdgst folder to ~/pd-externa

Re: [PD] installing pdgst

2010-12-22 Thread Jack
Le mercredi 22 décembre 2010 à 13:49 -0600, Ben Baker-Smith a écrit : > Hi Jack, > > Thanks for the response. I will definitely use some of those > references you provided once I get pdgst working, but right now I need > more information on how to get it installed. Yep, you are right ;) Do you get

Re: [PD] Piksel video report: Sonification of, IT censorship technologies

2010-12-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010, Collin Oldham wrote: Thank you for also caring about my comment. What I mean by "unsympathetic criticism," is criticism that comes from a point of view of not liking the thing that is being criticized. Some people need a little courage to receive that kind. I don't know if

Re: [PD] timing

2010-12-22 Thread Dietrich Pank
thank you guys for your answers! I think I understand the basic theory. Experience is something else... e.g. line~ and metro doesn't work sample correct even in block~ size 1 vline~ doesn't work in block~ sizes <64 And even thresholds fastest response is 64, less block size doesn't increase it's

Re: [PD] Piksel video report: Sonification of, IT censorship technologies

2010-12-22 Thread Collin Oldham
On 12/22/2010 11:34 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Collin Oldham wrote: Not that suppression was Mattieu's intention, this little gem may owe it's existence to his criticism! I just hope artists will have the courage to follow through with their impulses, even though they may

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies

2010-12-22 Thread john saylor
greetings if i understand you, one of your indirect points is that artists need to get more scientific. this seems correct to me [art has always been practiced by leading scientists, think of einstein and his violin]. and at the same time, this does not mean to ignore imagination- it means you mus

Re: [PD] timing

2010-12-22 Thread brandon zeeb
My fault, you're right. I'm happily wrong about this one. Cheers, Brandon On Dec 22, 2010 9:52 AM, "Roman Haefeli" wrote: On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 09:01 -0500, brandon zeeb wrote: > If Pd's default block size is 64 samples, a... Not true. Events a.k.a messages are 'virtually' [1] processed at any

[PD] [PD-announce] [hid] 0.7 released

2010-12-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, I finally actually put together an official 0.7 release of [hid]. This version has been included in Pd-extended for a while, but now there is a standalone release so that it can be easily built or packaged for other situations. http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/hid/relea

Re: [PD] drag and drop files in pd ?

2010-12-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
pdtk_canvas_makeobjs could put the full path to any abstraction and it would work. I was thinking of something more elaborate: have the GUI parse the abstraction that is dropped onto the patch, then paste it in where the abstraction was dropped on the patch. I haven't gotten TkDND working, so I h

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies

2010-12-22 Thread Derek Holzer
This is a classic example of the ongoing (mis)communication(s) between artists and scientists. In this case, I think Mathieu is confusing the purpose of art with the purpose of a scientific paper. One's aim is to establish and demonstrate facts, the other to explore possibilities and inspire im

Re: [PD] Open sound control in windows

2010-12-22 Thread patko
Hello, what's wrong with using PD for converting MIDI messages to OSC protocol? - "Jose Luis Santorcuato" a écrit : > Hi, this is strange because usually programs like blender,processing, > max work with this protocol, we want to send from a hardware or > software ?, if you send from hard e

Re: [PD] drag and drop files in pd ?

2010-12-22 Thread patko
Hello, I've just tested the 2.2 dll release of tkdnd, it seems the method has changed, and figured it out by reading this doc: http://www.ellogon.org/petasis/tcltk-projects-mainmenu-38/tkdnd-mainmenu-39/tkdnd-man-page-mainmenu-44 we need to use capitals for bindings so, this line: catch {

Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error

2010-12-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010, Yvan Volochine wrote: On 12/22/10, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: [#io.v4l2] does not work in any way, therefore I didn't bother enabling libv4l2 at all. To use v4l2, you go through libv4l1 instead, which does v4l1/v4l2 conversion. I added [#io.v4l2] in [#camera] because I was g

Re: [PD] pd mini-conference in Dublin

2010-12-22 Thread Pedro Lopes
Great initiative. Can you send more details, such as author guidelines, template for writing, max page numbers and the usual mumbo/jumbo? I'll spread the word on the web. best regards, pedro On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:39 PM, richard duckworth wrote: > Hi all, > The Department of Music is pleased

Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error

2010-12-22 Thread Yvan Volochine
On 12/22/10, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > > [#io.v4l2] does not work in any way, therefore I didn't bother enabling > libv4l2 at all. To use v4l2, you go through libv4l1 instead, which does > v4l1/v4l2 conversion. > > I added [#io.v4l2] in [#camera] because I was going to work on it, but > when I dec

[PD] Zoran MJPEG cards

2010-12-22 Thread Bastiaan van den Berg
Hello, Recently I found a Zoran MJPEG encoder card in my possession and have built a computer around it. MPlayer supports the input and the output and some other tools are available to do different things, but not that superfluous. I was wondering if anybody on this list ever played with this ca

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies

2010-12-22 Thread Marco Donnarumma
> > Ah, that's very nice. Will you put some of it online one day ? Technical information are on-line, I can provide a more detailed description if you really need it :) Regarding the software, yes, as I mentioned in a previous email, I need a moment to fix few things and publish it. M On Wed,

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies

2010-12-22 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Matju, I see your point and I won't try to convince you that this work is something you don't believe it to be. However, I believe our disagreement born from a very different viewpoint on the nature of an artistic intervention. Your technical analysis is excellent, but it seems to me it go

Re: [PD] PD for an alarm?

2010-12-22 Thread Pedro Lopes
fiddle of a hardcore fft analysis will detect such frequency peak. then send a message [ twidge command ( to [shell], this is a SO simple way to send stuff over to twiiter in linux. Have fun, Pedro On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Aaron L. wrote: > Hi all. > > Long time lurker. Infrequent pos

[PD] PD for an alarm?

2010-12-22 Thread Aaron L.
Hi all. Long time lurker. Infrequent poster I'd like to setup a very raw alarm type of system where I have a mic listening for a certain frequency. Once that frequency is detected, pd will do something (maybe send out a text-message or something.via twitter?) I have a vague idea ab

Re: [PD] installing pdgst

2010-12-22 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
Hi Jack, Thanks for the response. I will definitely use some of those references you provided once I get pdgst working, but right now I need more information on how to get it installed. -Ben On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Jack wrote: > Le mercredi 22 décembre 2010 à 12:24 -0600, Ben Baker-Sm

Re: [PD] installing pdgst

2010-12-22 Thread Jack
Le mercredi 22 décembre 2010 à 12:24 -0600, Ben Baker-Smith a écrit : > Hello List, > > I'm trying to do some streaming with pd and icecast, and after running > into trouble with pdp would like to try out pdgst. I have been working > from this thread to try and get it installed: > http://www.mail-

Re: [PD] Piksel video report: Sonification of, IT censorship technologies

2010-12-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Collin Oldham wrote: Not that suppression was Mattieu's intention, this little gem may owe it's existence to his criticism! I just hope artists will have the courage to follow through with their impulses, even though they may face some unsympathetic criticism. If I were

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies

2010-12-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, András Murányi wrote: Maybe the wisdom is exactly that, that a censored world will sound just like a non-censored world, Well, in a censored world, when I lookup Paul Desmarais' links with Nicolas Sarkozy on CyberPresse, I can read it aloud like this : «404». This certai

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies

2010-12-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Marco Donnarumma wrote: If one can't reasonably hear the censorship in it, is it appropriate to advertise the work using such a title ? How would you define a 'reasonable listening of censorship'? Well, perhaps there isn't one that can be done with IP addresses. IP addre

Re: [PD] PD OOP?

2010-12-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Andy Farnell wrote: In spite of a relativist position the idea of "a correct interpretation" of creativity is destroyed. It would make the most hardened cognitive scientist take a step back and question deeply all they think they know. Turns out there are as many kinds of

Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error

2010-12-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010, Yvan Volochine wrote: etc (everything except osx related is found), it builds fine, but if try the examples, opening [#camera], selecting libv4l2 and then my video device (video0) gives me this error: [#io.v4l2] does not work in any way, therefore I didn't bother enabling

[PD] installing pdgst

2010-12-22 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
Hello List, I'm trying to do some streaming with pd and icecast, and after running into trouble with pdp would like to try out pdgst. I have been working from this thread to try and get it installed: http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg38504.html pdgst seems to have built without errors

Re: [PD] grdflow v4l2 error

2010-12-22 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Hi, a similar thing happened to me, was related to the dimensions as said Mathieu ... check it anyway Best José 2010/12/22 Yvan Volochine : > hello > > just built gridflow on maverick. > ./configure tells me: > libv4l1 ---> found > libv4l2 ---> found > etc (everything except osx related is found

Re: [PD] timing

2010-12-22 Thread jurgen
Just one thought about the "in between samples" thing. In recent times there has been some discussions about inter-sample peaks. For more discussion there is an article about it with a free software download on the SSL site: http://www.solid-state-logic.com/music/x-ism/ But I don't know if the

[PD] grdflow v4l2 error

2010-12-22 Thread Yvan Volochine
hello just built gridflow on maverick. ./configure tells me: libv4l1 ---> found libv4l2 ---> found etc (everything except osx related is found), it builds fine, but if try the examples, opening [#camera], selecting libv4l2 and then my video device (video0) gives me this error: error: [#io.v4l2 in

Re: [PD] pix_opencv pdp_opencv segfault

2010-12-22 Thread Mark Grimm
hey... anyone have binaries compiled for 0.42.5 extended on 10.6.3? share? thanks mark ___ composed and sent from a mobile device On Dec 22, 2010, at 5:22 AM, lluis gomez i bigorda wrote: > Al 21/12/10 20:20, En/na manecante ha escrit: > >> I have this segmentation fa

Re: [PD] pix_opencv pdp_opencv segfault

2010-12-22 Thread Mark Grimm
___ composed and sent from a mobile device On Dec 22, 2010, at 5:22 AM, lluis gomez i bigorda wrote: > Al 21/12/10 20:20, En/na manecante ha escrit: > >> I have this segmentation fault with both pd-0.42.5 and latest git >> (0.43.0test3). >> I use latest opencv libs, G

Re: [PD] timing

2010-12-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010, Dietrich Pank wrote: I correct myself: it is ok in block~size 64 only, at any other size also higher sizes it shows the same giant burst. The error messages indicate that [throw~] [catch~] [send~] [receive~] don't work across different block sizes.

Re: [PD] timing

2010-12-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 09:01 -0500, brandon zeeb wrote: > If Pd's default block size is 64 samples, and "events" are only > processed at the beginning of a block cycle. Not true. Events a.k.a messages are 'virtually' [1] processed at any time (literally any time, which includes any time between sam

Re: [PD] pix_opencv pdp_opencv segfault

2010-12-22 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
ola, yes, lluis might be right, but could you be more precise on which example gives you the crash? we also fixed a few more things in more recent version ( for lucid or maverick ), so maybe you can try to upgrade too, unfortunately the binary packages are only for 32bits ( i386 ), but otherwise

Re: [PD] timing

2010-12-22 Thread brandon zeeb
If Pd's default block size is 64 samples, and "events" are only processed at the beginning of a block cycle. Therefore, if you're running at 48,000hz sample rate, then your "Event Rate" is 750hz. Likewise a 96,000hz sample rate will give you a 1500hz "Event Rate". As Mathieu mentioned, if you nee

Re: [PD] pix_opencv pdp_opencv segfault

2010-12-22 Thread lluis gomez i bigorda
Al 21/12/10 20:20, En/na manecante ha escrit: > I have this segmentation fault with both pd-0.42.5 and latest git > (0.43.0test3). > I use latest opencv libs, Gem -r 3574, latest svn for pdp, pdp_opencv > and pix_opencv (all of those built fine). > I am on Karmic. can you try with the binary pac