Re: [PD] oscillator and filter lib - reprise?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

There are some related libraries, like mtl or rjlib, but this one  
specifically was not done.  If you are feeling up to it, please take  
it on.  There are many working objects out there, so it'd mostly be an  
exercise in coming up with standard inlets/outlets and messages, and a  
naming scheme.


.hc

On May 25, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:


I guess eventually it didn't happen right?

http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-dev@iem.at/msg03279.html

It seemed like a very sensible proposal, together with Roman's one of
pulling together filters.
Just wondering...

Lorenzo.

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Re: [PD] Sort and init objects

[Frank Barknecht]

Hi,

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 06:59:50PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Another option would be sorting with data structures, which I usually do 
> today.
> Attached is an example abstraction for data structure sorting (datasort.pd). 
> It
> seems to be much faster than list-quicksort from list-abs (the currently
> fastest sorting in there), but only sorts in ascending order. 

Well, thinking about it, descending order turned out to be dead simple, as it
can be realized using a different order when building the final list ("append"
instead of "prepend") so attached is a new version, that I'll probably add to
the [list]-abs collection as it now has all the features of the other sorting
methods, is simpler and faster.

Ciao
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Re: [PD] Sort and init objects

[Frank Barknecht]

Hi,

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 08:09:37PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Well, thinking about it, descending order turned out to be dead simple, as it
> can be realized using a different order when building the final list ("append"
> instead of "prepend") so attached is a new version, 

Sorry, last attachment had a spurious "list-sort" inside, use this one.

Ciao
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Re: [PD] Sort and init objects

[Frank Barknecht]

Hi,

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:32:27AM +0200, cyrille henry wrote:
> there is a list-sort in footils list abstraction folder. and some
> list_quicksort where send to this list few years ago.

The rj library doesn't include a sorting abstraction, so indeed one should use
abstractions from elsewhere like those from list-abs, which should be no 
problem as they are all compatible with the vanilla-- object set available in 
RjDj.

Another option would be sorting with data structures, which I usually do today.
Attached is an example abstraction for data structure sorting (datasort.pd). It
seems to be much faster than list-quicksort from list-abs (the currently
fastest sorting in there), but only sorts in ascending order. See the bench.pd
benchmark for a comparison. 

You will probably want to modify datastort to suit your needs.

Ciao
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 Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me?  _ __footils.org__


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Re: [PD] u_loader and global preset manager in RJDJ lib

[Frank Barknecht]

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 02:56:15PM +0200, manecante wrote:
> thank's a lot for your reply. I didn't have so much time this week to
> deeply study it but in between i went to the pure data meeting in
> Berlin where i met Dan Wilcox who quickly made the attached patch that
> illustrates the answer of my question, that apparently  i  did not
> formulate correctly :)

Or maybe I just got carried away explaing the details. :)

Anyway a similar approach to the one, Dan showed you, is used in the help files
for Andy Farnell's fantastic synthesizers like s_ejun: Check out the subpatch 
"pd ejun_presets" for the presets.

Ciao
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 Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me?  _ __footils.org__

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Re: [PD] Sort and init objects

[cyrille henry]

hello,
send a link to the patch on this list, so that anyone could have a look.
c


Le 12/06/2011 17:05, Pagano, Patrick a écrit :

Cyrille
If I send you the patch do you think you might could look at it to see
what would be an appropriate substitution?

pp

On 6/12/11 4:32 AM, "cyrille henry"  wrote:


hello,

there is a list-sort in footils list abstraction folder. and some
list_quicksort where send to this list few years ago.


c


Le 12/06/2011 03:59, Pagano, Patrick a écrit :

Is there something in rjdj I could replace sort with?


From: Patrick Paganomailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu>>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:14:37 -0400
To: Patrick Paganomailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu>>, "pd-list@iem.at
"mailto:pd-list@iem.at>>
Subject: Re: [PD] Sort and init objects

Hi
It seems to be "Answer my own question day"
I opened the patch with extended and remembered that sort is a member
of zexy.
Is it possible to include zexy objects in rjdj patches?
I might not need the whole library just a few objects, what will this
do to X.rj, make it not work I assume

pp

From: Patrick Paganomailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu>>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:11:01 -0400
To: "pd-list@iem.at"mailto:pd-list@iem.at>>
Subject: [PD] Sort and init objects

Hi

I am trying to convert a patch for use with rjdj so I am opening up a
few older nugget patches with pd-vanilla to see what might/might not load
One particular patch is looking for "sort" and "init"
Does anyone know what might supply these objects?

Pat



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Re: [PD] Sort and init objects

[Pagano, Patrick]

Cyrille
If I send you the patch do you think you might could look at it to see
what would be an appropriate substitution?

pp

On 6/12/11 4:32 AM, "cyrille henry"  wrote:

>hello,
>
>there is a list-sort in footils list abstraction folder. and some
>list_quicksort where send to this list few years ago.
>
>
>c
>
>
>Le 12/06/2011 03:59, Pagano, Patrick a écrit :
>> Is there something in rjdj I could replace sort with?
>>
>>
>> From: Patrick Pagano >>
>> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:14:37 -0400
>> To: Patrick Pagano >>, "pd-list@iem.at
>>" mailto:pd-list@iem.at>>
>> Subject: Re: [PD] Sort and init objects
>>
>> Hi
>> It seems to be "Answer my own question day"
>> I opened the patch with extended and remembered that sort is a member
>>of zexy.
>> Is it possible to include zexy objects in rjdj patches?
>> I might not need the whole library just a few objects, what will this
>>do to X.rj, make it not work I assume
>>
>> pp
>>
>> From: Patrick Pagano >>
>> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:11:01 -0400
>> To: "pd-list@iem.at " >>
>> Subject: [PD] Sort and init objects
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I am trying to convert a patch for use with rjdj so I am opening up a
>>few older nugget patches with pd-vanilla to see what might/might not load
>> One particular patch is looking for "sort" and "init"
>> Does anyone know what might supply these objects?
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 75, Issue 31

[Pagano, Patrick]

Thanks joe, I'll check those

pp

From: Joe White mailto:white.j...@gmail.com>>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 06:31:34 -0400
To: "pd-list@iem.at" 
mailto:pd-list@iem.at>>, Patrick Pagano 
mailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu>>
Subject: Re: Pd-list Digest, Vol 75, Issue 31

Hi Patrick,

What does sort do exactly?

In the RjLib there are many abstractions to apply functions to lists with. If 
you make an object called [OVERVIEW] and look inside there will be a menu to 
access all the objects. In the 'utilities' section there is [u_listfilter], 
[u_listdrip], [u_listequal], [u_listloop], [u_listmap], [u_listnth], etc... You 
should be able to do pretty much everything with those objects.

Zexy is not included in RjDj.

Cheers,
Joe

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Is there something in rjdj I could replace sort with?


From: Patrick Pagano 
mailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu>>>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:14:37 -0400
To: Patrick Pagano 
mailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu>>>,
 
"pd-list@iem.at>"
 
mailto:pd-list@iem.at>>>
Subject: Re: [PD] Sort and init objects

Hi
It seems to be "Answer my own question day"
I opened the patch with extended and remembered that sort is a member of zexy.
Is it possible to include zexy objects in rjdj patches?
I might not need the whole library just a few objects, what will this do to  
X.rj, make it not work I assume

pp
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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 75, Issue 31

[Joe White]

Hi Patrick,

What does sort do exactly?

In the RjLib there are many abstractions to apply functions to lists with.
If you make an object called [OVERVIEW] and look inside there will be a menu
to access all the objects. In the 'utilities' section there is
[u_listfilter], [u_listdrip], [u_listequal], [u_listloop], [u_listmap],
[u_listnth], etc... You should be able to do pretty much everything with
those objects.

Zexy is not included in RjDj.

Cheers,
Joe


> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:59:43 -0400
> From: "Pagano, Patrick" 
> Subject: Re: [PD] Sort and init objects
> To: "Pagano, Patrick" , "pd-list@iem.at"
>
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Is there something in rjdj I could replace sort with?
>
>
> From: Patrick Pagano  p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu>>
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:14:37 -0400
> To: Patrick Pagano  p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu>>, "pd-list@iem.at" <
> pd-list@iem.at>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Sort and init objects
>
> Hi
> It seems to be "Answer my own question day"
> I opened the patch with extended and remembered that sort is a member of
> zexy.
> Is it possible to include zexy objects in rjdj patches?
> I might not need the whole library just a few objects, what will this do to
>  X.rj, make it not work I assume
>
> pp
>
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Re: [PD] Sort and init objects

[cyrille henry]

hello,

there is a list-sort in footils list abstraction folder. and some 
list_quicksort where send to this list few years ago.


c


Le 12/06/2011 03:59, Pagano, Patrick a écrit :

Is there something in rjdj I could replace sort with?


From: Patrick Pagano mailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu>>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:14:37 -0400
To: Patrick Pagano mailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu>>, "pd-list@iem.at 
" mailto:pd-list@iem.at>>
Subject: Re: [PD] Sort and init objects

Hi
It seems to be "Answer my own question day"
I opened the patch with extended and remembered that sort is a member of zexy.
Is it possible to include zexy objects in rjdj patches?
I might not need the whole library just a few objects, what will this do to 
X.rj, make it not work I assume

pp

From: Patrick Pagano mailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu>>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:11:01 -0400
To: "pd-list@iem.at " mailto:pd-list@iem.at>>
Subject: [PD] Sort and init objects

Hi

I am trying to convert a patch for use with rjdj so I am opening up a few older 
nugget patches with pd-vanilla to see what might/might not load
One particular patch is looking for "sort" and "init"
Does anyone know what might supply these objects?

Pat



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