Re: [PD] pix_film can't open almost any file after upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10

2011-06-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2011-06-14 22:18, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
 On 06/14/2011 08:26 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 
 Unfortunately the latest version from CVS is equally broken.
 
 I wrote this after installing it and trying in Gem, but I hadn't tried
 lqtplay.
 
 Now lqtplay doesn't crash any more, it says it can't find libquicktime!!
 
 lqtplay: error while loading shared libraries: libquicktime.so.0: cannot
 open shared object file: No such file or directory
 

you should update the ld cache, by running
$ sudo ldconfig

after that it might work.
(a reboot might have the same effect, but ldconfig is less invasive)

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Re: [PD] pix_film can't open almost any file after upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10

2011-06-15 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

On 06/15/2011 09:11 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:


you should update the ld cache, by running
$ sudo ldconfig


Oh, thanks!
(why doesn't make install do that btw?)


after that it might work.


Now lqtplay can play those files, but Pd still crashes! :(


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Re: [PD] pix_film can't open almost any file after upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10

2011-06-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2011-06-15 09:17, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
 On 06/15/2011 09:11 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 
 you should update the ld cache, by running
 $ sudo ldconfig
 
 Oh, thanks!
 (why doesn't make install do that btw?)

i dunno, but i think that most makefiles for libraries do NOT call
ldconfig on their own. (thankfully, most makefiles don't reboot the
computer either :-))

 
 after that it might work.
 
 Now lqtplay can play those files, but Pd still crashes! :(
 

in this case i think that Gem might still be using the wrong library.
you could check which libs Gem is linked against by doing:
$ ldd /path/to/my/Gem.pd_linux

and watch out for libquicktime; e.g.
$ ldd /path/to/my/Gem.pd_linux | grep quick

i guess, that Gem is linked against libquicktime.so.1 (provided by
/usr/lib/libquicktime.so.1) while lqtplay is linked against
libquicktime.so.2 (provided by /usr/local/lib/libquicktime.so.2).

the 2 versions might be _binary_ incompatible, which means that you
would need to re-compile Gem as well :-(

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[PD] pdp: Handling pdp_v4l VS pdp_v4l2 and possibly updating the examples

2011-06-15 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
All the examples in pdp use pdp_v4l. On two of the machines I tested
(with different webcams and distros: ubuntu lucid 10.04 i386 and debian
wheezy amd64) these only work with v4l2 (and thus [pdp_v4l2])

I wonder now-a-days what the statistics are with v4l and v4l2 devices
and which are currently more 'representative' (i.e. is v4l still very
widely used?)

Anyhow - Maybe the examples for pdp should also exist with pd_v4l2. Or
maybe pd_v4l and pd_v4l2 could be encapsulated into, say, an abstraction
which enables to chose. Not sure which would mean most work..

What do you think?
Lorenzo.

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Re: [PD] pix_film can't open almost any file after upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10

2011-06-15 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

Hi,
Thank you so much for your help

On 06/15/2011 09:24 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

in this case i think that Gem might still be using the wrong library.
you could check which libs Gem is linked against by doing:

$ ldd /path/to/my/Gem.pd_linux | grep quick



Indeed that returns /usr/lib/libquicktime.so.1

Instead, lqtplay (whose new working version in /usr/local/bin while the 
old crashing version still is in /usr/bin) says


/usr/local/lib/libquicktime.so.0


the 2 versions might be _binary_ incompatible, which means that you
would need to re-compile Gem as well :-(


If I do, will it automatically know to link against the correct library?
How do I tell him/her?

Thanks
m.


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[PD] Gem window closing itself

2011-06-15 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

Hi,

With Pd 0.42.5, Gem 0.92.3, Ubuntu 10.10, sometimes the gemwin randomly 
closes itself (without crashing Pd).


Has anybody experienced the same?

thanks
m.

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[PD] The final question about Arduino

2011-06-15 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

Hi,

At the end, in order to figure out all the weridnesses regarding the 
apparently different behavior of the Arduino on different platforms, I 
only need to answer a simple question, well two simple questions:


1. Does the StandardFirmata firmware send the firmware name and version 
every time it accepts a connection on the serial port, or only when it 
is powered up or reset?


2. Is the action of opening the connection (i.e. the open message you 
send in Pd to the [arduino] object) supposed/expected to cause the 
arduino to reset?


This is slightly OT but it is relevant for working with [arduino] in Pd.

Thanks
m.

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Re: [PD] pdp: Handling pdp_v4l VS pdp_v4l2 and possibly updating the examples

2011-06-15 Thread Pagano, Patrick
I would just do it yourself or prepare for the snarky obscure
psuedo-political cheese comments.
I change all mine to pdp_v4l2

pp

On 6/15/11 3:38 AM, Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it wrote:

All the examples in pdp use pdp_v4l. On two of the machines I tested
(with different webcams and distros: ubuntu lucid 10.04 i386 and debian
wheezy amd64) these only work with v4l2 (and thus [pdp_v4l2])

I wonder now-a-days what the statistics are with v4l and v4l2 devices
and which are currently more 'representative' (i.e. is v4l still very
widely used?)

Anyhow - Maybe the examples for pdp should also exist with pd_v4l2. Or
maybe pd_v4l and pd_v4l2 could be encapsulated into, say, an abstraction
which enables to chose. Not sure which would mean most work..

What do you think?
Lorenzo.



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Re: [PD] The final question about Arduino

2011-06-15 Thread Martin Peach

On 2011-06-15 07:13, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:

Hi,

At the end, in order to figure out all the weridnesses regarding the
apparently different behavior of the Arduino on different platforms, I
only need to answer a simple question, well two simple questions:

1. Does the StandardFirmata firmware send the firmware name and version
every time it accepts a connection on the serial port, or only when it
is powered up or reset?




From looking at the code it only sends the digital pins on startup, not 
the version. Probably it's the Pd patch that asks for the version.




2. Is the action of opening the connection (i.e. the open message you
send in Pd to the [arduino] object) supposed/expected to cause the
arduino to reset?


that might depend on the driver for the FTDI chip, which is different 
from a regular USB serial connection. You might want to try a teensy 
instead of an arduino as it uses standard USB serial protocol.


Martin

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Re: [PD] The final question about Arduino

2011-06-15 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

On 06/15/2011 03:03 PM, Martin Peach wrote:

Probably it's the Pd patch that asks for the version.


Oh, that's strange. I've searched in depth inside the [arduino] 
abstraction and I can't find anything that is possibly doing that!



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Re: [PD] pdp: Handling pdp_v4l VS pdp_v4l2 and possibly updating the examples

2011-06-15 Thread Charles Goyard
Hi,

Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
 I wonder now-a-days what the statistics are with v4l and v4l2 devices
 and which are currently more 'representative' (i.e. is v4l still very
 widely used?)

Since v4l1 support has been dumped from the kernel, I believe statistics
will be in favor of v4l2.

cheers,
Charlot

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Re: [PD] The final question about Arduino

2011-06-15 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

On 06/15/2011 04:02 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:

On 06/15/2011 03:03 PM, Martin Peach wrote:

Probably it's the Pd patch that asks for the version.


Oh, that's strange. I've searched in depth inside the [arduino]
abstraction and I can't find anything that is possibly doing that!



Definitely, it is not the patch. I've placed a [print] to print 
everything that is being sent to [comport] and the only thing that it is 
being sent to it is the open message.


Tha Arduino board is sending the version information when Pd connects to 
it, whether it is at startup (because of a reset) or at connecting.




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Re: [PD] The final question about Arduino

2011-06-15 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

On 06/15/2011 04:25 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:


Tha Arduino board is sending the version information when Pd connects to
it, whether it is at startup (because of a reset) or at connecting.


I guess it is this, in Firmata.cpp:

  void FirmataClass::begin(long speed)
  {
  #if defined(__AVR_ATmega128__)  // Wiring
Serial.begin((uint32_t)speed);
  #else
Serial.begin(speed);
  #endif
blinkVersion();
delay(300);
printVersion(); // -- this!
printFirmwareVersion();
  }

This function is called at startup.


So, if arduino only sends this at startup, and if startup is not 
guaranteed to (re)happen when connecting to it, what is the correct way 
to ensure that you send the necessary configuration messages (such as 
pinMode stuff) just after opening the port? Other than putting an 
arbitrary delay I mean.


If you just send the pinModes immediately after the open messages, 
you're almost sure they're lost, but there doesn't seem to be any safe 
way to be informed of when you can send them...


Any idea? Or do I have to put a few second delay and hope it is always 
enough?


The open 1 message is only triggered by sending the info message, 
but then the same problem raises: when do I send the info message?


Thanks
m.

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Re: [PD] The final question about Arduino

2011-06-15 Thread Charles Goyard
Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
 
 So, if arduino only sends this at startup, and if startup is not
 guaranteed to (re)happen when connecting to it, what is the correct
 way to ensure that you send the necessary configuration messages
 (such as pinMode stuff) just after opening the port? Other than
 putting an arbitrary delay I mean.

I would remove the (annoying) autoreset feature from the arduino board
by cutting the reset-en trace. No more stupid resets.


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Re: [PD] Sort and init objects

2011-06-15 Thread Pagano, Patrick
It seems to want a list-drip?

pp

On 6/12/11 2:13 PM, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote:

Hi,

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 08:09:37PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
 Well, thinking about it, descending order turned out to be dead simple,
as it
 can be realized using a different order when building the final list
(append
 instead of prepend) so attached is a new version,

Sorry, last attachment had a spurious list-sort inside, use this one.

Ciao
-- 
 Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me?  _ __footils.org__


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[PD] problem with pdgst

2011-06-15 Thread Jack
I can play a stream without problem with gstreamer and the command
line :
$ gst-launch-0.10 gnomevfssrc location=http://... ! qtdemux !
ffdec_h264 ! ffmpegcolorspace ! xvimagesink

But using pdgst with :

[location http://...(
|
[gnomevfssrc]
|
[qtdemux]
|
[ffdec_h264]
|
[ffmpegcolorspace]
|
[pix_gst2pix rgba]

It doesn't work. I get in the pd console :

verbose( 0):setting property 'location'
GEM: Direct Rendering enabled!
GEM: GLEW version 1.5.4
GEM: Start rendering
info:gst2pix: stream_status 0 gnomevfssrc1
info:gst2pix: stream_status 0 gnomevfssrc1
info:gst2pix: stream_status 1 gnomevfssrc1
info:gst2pix: stream_status 1 gnomevfssrc1
error: [gnomevfssrc]: Impossible d'ouvrir la ressource en lecture.
error: [gnomevfssrc]: gstgnomevfssrc.c(868): gst_gnome_vfs_src_start
(): /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstGnomeVFSSrc:gnomevfssrc2:
No filename given
error: [gnomevfssrc]: Impossible d'ouvrir la ressource en lecture.
error: [gnomevfssrc]: gstgnomevfssrc.c(868): gst_gnome_vfs_src_start
(): /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstGnomeVFSSrc:gnomevfssrc2:
No filename given

I am sure the filename is given with the [location( message.

Here my configuration :
Pd 0.42.5
GEM: ver: 0.93.SVN rev3952M
GEM: compiled: May  1 2011
pdgst $Revision: 0.0 $
(copyleft) IOhannes m zmoelnig @ IEM / KUG
compiled on Jun 15 2011 at 16:58:09 
compiled against Pd version 0.42.5.

I miss something ?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanx.
++

Jack




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Re: [PD] The final question about Arduino

2011-06-15 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

On 06/15/2011 05:08 PM, Charles Goyard wrote:


I would remove the (annoying) autoreset feature from the arduino board
by cutting the reset-en trace. No more stupid resets.


Would that ensure that I could send a pinMode or analogIns message 
_immediately_ after open and rely on that it would be received by the 
arduino?


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Re: [PD] The final question about Arduino

2011-06-15 Thread Charles Goyard
Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
 I would remove the (annoying) autoreset feature from the arduino board
 by cutting the reset-en trace. No more stupid resets.
 Would that ensure that I could send a pinMode or analogIns message
 _immediately_ after open and rely on that it would be received by
 the arduino?

That would ensure you're not talking to the Arduino's bootloader.

Opening the port reboots the Arduino. From reading the bootloader code,
it does not pass the bytes received before its timeout to the
application. So you want to avoid the bootloader.


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Re: [PD] Sort and init objects

2011-06-15 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Pagano, Patrick wrote:


It seems to want a list-drip?


Get the whole list-abs library. Recent versions (since about two years) 
include my accelerated [list-drip] (formerly known as [list-drip-quick]).


It's not the fastest, but it's the simplest of the fast ones.

But if you wanted something real fast, you'd use an external such as 
[foreach] from GridFlow, which does the same as [list-drip], or [#sort], 
which is probably the fastest sorter there is in Pd (without really 
trying : it's a quite simple external just using a libc function). Of 
course, you can't use those on an iPhone, because of alleged license 
conflict (GPL vs ...).


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Re: [PD] sceneplayer rjdj examples: OT

2011-06-15 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

Are there any other Xoom pd-ers out there in Pure Data land? I just 
rooted my Motorola Xoom and overclocked it from 1GHZ to 1.7, I 
installed a special kernel and got the blessed sdcard to work as well as 
usb support I feel like it's 1995 all over again, heh.


In 1995, the highest clock there was for PCs, was about 100 MHz, perhaps 
150. There was also the DEC Alpha running at 233, which was pretty much 
the max.


So, what's the link between 1700 MHz and 1995 ?

(not to mention USB support...)

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Re: [PD] (GEM) Getting the z-buffer value of a pixel in a rendered image

2011-06-15 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:

Is there a way in GEM to take a snapshot of a rendered scene (such as 
with pix_snap) and save the z-buffer information, for example saving it 
as an extra channel? (e.g. have the z value saved as the alpha channel)? 
I'm interested in getting an image of the scene as it would appear if it 
was captured by a depth sensor like a Kinect...


How many bits do you expect the z-buffer to be, and how can that possibly 
fit in any GEM pix structure ?


AFAIK, only GridFlow, PDP and iemmatrix are equipped to handle that data.

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