Re: [PD] numeric order

2011-06-20 Thread Frank Barknecht
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 07:20:02PM +0200, Mirko Maier wrote: hi everybody, i have textfile like 1 this; 4 my; 3 is; 10 file; and i would like to put it into numerical order, so that the final result is 1 this; 3 is; 4 my; 10 list; the only possibility i found was a recursive

Re: [PD] pd crashed

2011-06-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-06-20 03:04, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Under the heading Add Artifact please add that a backtrace would be useful to include in a bug report[1] (rather than mentioning it casually in a sidenote). indeed the Add Artifact is a bit moody.

Re: [PD] Problem with 'invalid enumerant' with only gemwin

2011-06-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-06-19 22:42, manecante wrote: hi, i have got the same problem since i compiled the last Gem : 0.93.SVN rev4063, Pd 0.43.1test2, ubuntu 10.04, video card :ATI Mobility FireGL V5700. So it is a bit difficult to use the post window to

Re: [PD] kinect external

2011-06-20 Thread philippe boisnard
Hello Hans I do that you you explain, I put the whole folder in Library/Pd, and after I start pd-extended, but fux_kinect object doesn't work, even if I have the objet [kinect] I don't understand, because, there is no problem when I read you ? p Le 20 juin 2011 à 01:22, Hans-Christoph

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Ingo, thanks for your explanation, I think to understand how he's playing. The movement looks to me secondary - it's more like a dance movement and not too much music control. This might be a very personal take, but if movement is secondary in gestural control, why one uses gestural control

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Jumping on the discussion (not a frequent poster, but I do follow), I must say I agree with Marco... but one question (kinda related, but at the same time isn't): what would consist, then, improvisation when using Pd? I mean, if you consider *free* improvisation the only thing I can think of, in

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Patrice Colet
If the musical structure you are playing on is opened, also when the player is free to put whatever he likes, you can call it an improvisation. You don't need to be Coltrane to improvise, what the hell is that mentality - Pedro Oliveira he...@partidoalto.net a écrit : Jumping on the

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Hi Patrice, I think you didn't get my point... I mentioned Coltrane as an example of a musician that extrapolated his own instrument from the 12-tone idea (particularly from *A Love Supreme* on). However, I think that open musical structures are a more complex subject to put it into the

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Ingo
Sorry Marco, but I can see that you have never played jazz! Ingo Von: Marco Donnarumma [mailto:de...@thesaddj.com] Gesendet: Montag, 20. Juni 2011 13:43 An: Ingo Cc: pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED Ingo, thanks for your

Re: [PD] kinect external

2011-06-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
/Library/Pd not ~/Library/Pd. It needs to be have a root of your disk, not your home folder. Then you can create [fux_kinect], or open /Library/Pd/fux_kinect/kinect.pd. .hc On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:16 AM, philippe boisnard wrote: Hello Hans I do that you you explain, I put the whole

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Andy Farnell
I think the problem is really a simpler one. It applies to all kinds of technological music. It is the understanding that the audience has of the performance. Most people have an idea how a flute or saxophone or guitar works. They have picked one up and had a go at playing. Indeed, many are

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Pagano, Patrick
Bravo. On 6/20/11 10:36 AM, Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk wrote: I think the problem is really a simpler one. It applies to all kinds of technological music. It is the understanding that the audience has of the performance. Most people have an idea how a flute or saxophone or guitar

[PD] Testing whether a directory is empty without printing error messages if it is

2011-06-20 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi, I'm using [folder_list] to perform the following tasks: - check whether a directory or file exists - get the list of files in a directory (which is an empty list if the directory is empty) However, when the file does not exist or the directory of which I'm getting the list is empty, it

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] Gemwin help patch

2011-06-20 Thread Max
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 maybe there could be a reference to [ortho] in the viewing subpatch. 2ct. Am 19.06.2011 um 18:42 schrieb Nicolas Montgermont: thx for your comments: Le 19/06/11 17:51, Jack a écrit : In the fullscreen subpatch, use [gemkeyname] instead

Re: [PD] CVs

2011-06-20 Thread Andy Farnell
Picking this great thread up again, hope that's okay; I have a feeling that logical consistency didn't bother the ancients quite so much Bryan. My guess is that's more of a rational, Enlightenment hangup. If Socrates played language games with truth it was a playful poking mankind with sharp

Re: [PD] Testing whether a directory is empty without printing error messages if it is

2011-06-20 Thread Jack
Le lundi 20 juin 2011 à 18:36 +0200, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : Hi, I'm using [folder_list] to perform the following tasks: - check whether a directory or file exists - get the list of files in a directory (which is an empty list if the directory is empty) However, when the file does

Re: [PD] Testing whether a directory is empty without printing error messages if it is

2011-06-20 Thread Ingo
You could first write any kind of file into the directory first. Then get the directory content but ignore the file you just wrote - maybe even delete it afterwards. Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von Matteo Sisti

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] Gemwin help patch

2011-06-20 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
ok, i added that and corrected the [buffer 1( problem pointed by olivier. It still lack the class definition under the title... corrected version attached n Le 20/06/11 19:04, Max a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 maybe there could be a reference to [ortho] in the

[PD] pd-con 2011: CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS

2011-06-20 Thread Moritz Schell
To all who are interested in composing for the weimar carillon at the pd-con: we collected your questions - answers see below... which are the possibilities of nuances of amplitude of the porcelain- carillon? - technically there are no nuances for the touch-response: once you played a

Re: [PD] Testing whether a directory is empty without printing error messages if it is

2011-06-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Try using the [hcs/stat] object. .hc On Jun 20, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Ingo wrote: You could first write any kind of file into the directory first. Then get the directory content but ignore the file you just wrote - maybe even delete it afterwards. Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-

[PD] Cannot compile Gem on Linux (Ubuntu)

2011-06-20 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi, I'm following the instructions in the README file to compile Gem on Linux. I installed the needed dependencies (hopefully all of them) and I ran autogen and configure without any error message. When it comes to make, I get: videoV4L2.cpp:300: warning: #warning implement fromBGRA

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread martin brinkmann
On 06/20/2011 01:43 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Ingo, thanks for your explanation, I think to understand how he's playing. i do not think i do (completely), though i have only watched it twice so far. it seems that everything is based heavily on live-looping. at first i thought he was using

Re: [PD] kinect external

2011-06-20 Thread Pagano, Patrick
No love here on OSX 10.6.7 Quad core 16gb pp /Users/shree/Desktop/kinect/fux_kinect.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Users/shree/Desktop/kinect/fux_kinect.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /sw/lib/libftgl.2.dylib Referenced from: /Users/shree/Desktop/kinect/fux_kinect.pd_darwin On 6/20/11 4:16 AM,

Re: [PD] pd-con 2011: CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS

2011-06-20 Thread Pagano, Patrick
This is very cool. I have a MIDI composition for this It sort of Reichian, that's steve not the 3rd ---bad germany joke I will send it in the AM pp On 6/19/11 10:30 AM, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote: Hi Moritz, thanks for the announcement. I have two questions: - Is there a full polyphony

Re: [PD] kinect external

2011-06-20 Thread William Brent
I get the same result. Looks like a library installed via Fink? On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: No love here on OSX 10.6.7 Quad core 16gb pp /Users/shree/Desktop/kinect/fux_kinect.pd_darwin:

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Unfortunately not Ingo. Would love to. I play regularly electroacoustic free improv. So perphaps we are talking a different language? Could you elaborate your answer? If I'm missing something about the innovation of that work I'd be glad to learn :) Thanks, M On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:20

Re: [PD] kinect external

2011-06-20 Thread Pagano, Patrick
Pretty sure /sw is fink Macports puts it in /opt I thimk Pp On 6/20/11 5:08 PM, William Brent william.br...@gmail.com wrote: I get the same result. Looks like a library installed via Fink? On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: No love here on

[PD] pd-geocache

2011-06-20 Thread Pagano, Patrick
Lets do it! pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] pd-geocache

2011-06-20 Thread Pagano, Patrick
We could do it with usb sticks full of pd patches/samples From: Patrick Pagano p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:27:09 -0400 To: pd-list@iem.atmailto:pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.atmailto:pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] pd-geocache Lets do it! pp

Re: [PD] kinect external

2011-06-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ah, yes, I have fink installed and use it for Pd builds. I included FTGL here: http://autobuild.puredata.info/pdlab/fux_kinect.tar.bz2 Its all about the otool -L libftgl.2.dylib to see the lib paths, then install_name_tool to change the lib id, then install_name_tool to change the

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Mikael Fernstrom
IMHO, the TED clip was quite mediocre. As I'm a regular performer, ranging from jazz, to rock to contemporary computer music, I think the TED example does not in any way demonstrate the real possibilities with for example PD and gestural controllers. OTH, at times I've been accused of

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Pedro Oliveira wrote: Hi Patrice, I think you didn't get my point... I mentioned Coltrane as an example of a musician that extrapolated his own instrument from the 12-tone idea (particularly from A Love Supreme on). sticking to 12-tone or getting out of 12-tone is

[PD] Euclidean Rhythms again...

2011-06-20 Thread Cody Loyd
A month ago I was on the list asking for assistance with Euclidean Rhythms. I figured it out, and now have this: also a test using TouchOSC on my Ipad :) ENJOY! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFwva0cvr8g ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: [PD] pd crashed

2011-06-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 6/20/11, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pd crashed To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:29 AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-06-20 03:04, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote: glad the provocation went through. You also used that word when posting an unrelated url on LinkedIn today. Seems to be a mood that you are in. Thus, I was just wondering that I would have appreciated TED to show some of them instead of this

Re: [PD] CVs

2011-06-20 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Andy Farnell wrote: What Plato tried to address in thought, like Godel in logic was that we are incomplete, if there is universality, a one, a good, and there is an I to observe it, but still be of the one, it must invoke a third concept, an existential relation. And

Re: [PD] pd-con 2011: CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS

2011-06-20 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Pagano, Patrick wrote: It sort of Reichian, that's steve not the 3rd ---bad germany joke There are jokes about people who make jokes like this ! ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Sun, 6/19/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: What's a « technological parody » ? It's where you take something like a modern digital computer and do DSP by using an interface modeled after 30 year-old analog audio equipment.

Re: [PD] CVs

2011-06-20 Thread Chris McCormick
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:51:23AM +0800, Chris McCormick wrote: On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 09:15:01PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Andy Farnell wrote: What Plato tried to address in thought, like Godel in logic was that we are incomplete, if there is universality, a

Re: [PD] CVs

2011-06-20 Thread Chris McCormick
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 09:15:01PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Andy Farnell wrote: What Plato tried to address in thought, like Godel in logic was that we are incomplete, if there is universality, a one, a good, and there is an I to observe it, but still be of the

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Patrice Colet
Hello Pedro, J. Coltrane or the bird passed a very long time about learning and experimenting patterns that sounds good all along standards. Love supreme is from my point of view like the synthesis of all the knowledge J. C. got from playing in clubs with best jazz players. By analysing his

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Tyler Leavitt
I think a lot of the folks who are disappointed with this being at TED are frustrated because they are looking at it from an academic standpoint or at least looking at it as a non-performer. You have to remember that he is performing, and on top of that, probably trying to make a living as a

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Richie Cyngler
Patrice Colet to pd-list, Pedro show details 12:07 PM (1 hour ago) * In TED performance we see how interfaces would be used to interpret electronic music, unfortunately the player doesn't seem to have a lot of culture in electronic music, but maybe someone else with a lot more experience and

Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 6/21/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com, pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 3:39 AM On Sun, 19