Re: [PD] WebPd - Need a small clarification

2012-03-06 Thread Chris McCormick
On 03/06/2012 04:15 PM, sebastien piquemal wrote: my preference would be for there to be an option to download a monolithic pd.js This goes without saying !!! That's actually what a CI server is meant for : automating builds. Basically, the split files would be only development files. Cool!

Re: [PD] WebPd - Need a small clarification

2012-03-06 Thread Chris McCormick
On 03/06/2012 04:18 PM, sebastien piquemal wrote: Let's see how things go. It's just that now I'm more careful, because I had the bad experience of coding a lot of stuff in a fork, and the author never pulling it, or pulling then reverting all the work done. I understand your concern. However,

[PD] dealing with crashes under WinXp

2012-03-06 Thread David Schaffer
Hi, I'm running a sound installation unsing pd under windows XP SP3 home. The patch is heavy and the computer is an old centrino laptop (the cpu runs at 95 percent all the time). I was planning to let the computer run non-stop for three weeks to keep maintenance as low as possible

Re: [PD] dealing with crashes under WinXp

2012-03-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-03-06 09:46, David Schaffer wrote: Hi, I'm running a sound installation unsing pd under windows XP SP3 home. The patch is heavy and the computer is an old centrino laptop (the cpu runs at 95 percent all the time). I was

Re: [PD] puredata.info site design provocation

2012-03-06 Thread Pedro Lopes
Cool! Like the cleaner look. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: The one thing I miss is the news section. Yeah for sure. It's probably a little too heavy for the frontpage, but how has webpd

Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 84, Issue 32

2012-03-06 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Hi Chris, I'm glad you did that. It is what I'm also doing following the discussion in the past week about the website. However, apparently it's a pain to be able to change only the css in the plone template. I'm looking into that, if somebody is more experienced than me in Plone, give me a

Re: [PD] six sound outputs with sound blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1

2012-03-06 Thread Py Fave
for sound blaster cards on windows an alternative driver exists. or existed perhaps ... i used it on xp.very nice check for your card compatibility http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

[PD] playlist (unauthorized) strange behaviour on Ubuntu 11.10

2012-03-06 Thread
Hi list, I have found a strange bug in the behaviour properties of 'playlist'. When you re editing the size color or other param in 'playlist' appears a error message with the next strings: (and is no possible change the properties) Anybody knows? Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120305 on Ubuntu 11.10

Re: [PD] Pduino: Call for testing

2012-03-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 08:35 +0100, Jordi Sala wrote: hi, I've done a very simple test, and it works fine! https://vimeo.com/37914564 Cool! Thanks for that. (Solely from watching the video, it's hard to judge whether everything is working as expected. I assume, you were able more easily

Re: [PD] playlist (unauthorized) strange behaviour on Ubuntu 11.10

2012-03-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think I just fixed this with this commit: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revisionrevision=16049 Try tomorrow's build and let me know if it is still broken. .hc On Mar 6, 2012, at 9:00 AM, xä wrote: Hi list, I have found a strange bug in the behaviour

Re: [PD] puredata.info site design provocation

2012-03-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
It looks great like that! What if we added the News section underneath the navigation on the left hand side? .hc On Mar 6, 2012, at 2:57 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: The one thing I miss is the news section. Yeah for sure. It's probably a

Re: [PD] dealing with crashes under WinXp

2012-03-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 6, 2012, at 4:06 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-03-06 09:46, David Schaffer wrote: Hi, I'm running a sound installation unsing pd under windows XP SP3 home. The patch is heavy and the computer is an old centrino

Re: [PD] Problem to compile Pd 0.43-1 with JACK

2012-03-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-03-05 19:36, Jack wrote: Le 05/03/2012 17:25, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : any specific reason to use .../src/configure rather than .../configure? I followed the instruction in the README.txt ;) fair enough... After $ ./configure i

Re: [PD] Pduino: Call for testing

2012-03-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 4, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 22:27 -0800, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I would prefer that you use a different name unless you are interested in providing strict compatibility with the current Pduino. Yes, actually I'm interested. Things

Re: [PD] [grid] not working in pd-extended 0.43.1

2012-03-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
This should be fixed with this commit: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revisionrevision=16049 .hc On Mar 4, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Antonio Roberts wrote: I'm still getting this error when attempting to edit the properties of [grid]: invalid command name pd invalid

Re: [PD] Pduino: Call for testing

2012-03-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 10:56 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Mar 4, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Actually [zexy/makesymbol] wasn't ever used in [arduino], only in arduino-help.pd . There it's used to display the Firmware version in a GOP cnv object - [zexy/makesymbol

Re: [PD] newbie says hello

2012-03-06 Thread Andrew Faraday
hello newbie You'll find that this mailing list is a valuable resource for pure data. Don't be afraid to ask the big questions, or the little questions for that matter. There an experienced, but understanding community round Pd so you can learn near enough what you want from them welcome

Re: [PD] puredata.info site design provocation

2012-03-06 Thread Max
I'd like to see a big download button which points to the users platform version of Pd-extended. a small script under that button could read: Pd in other flavors and for other operating systems Like there: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ http://musescore.org/

Re: [PD] Pduino: Call for testing

2012-03-06 Thread Jordi Sala
yes, it works fine! On 6 March 2012 17:12, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 10:56 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Mar 4, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Actually [zexy/makesymbol] wasn't ever used in [arduino], only in arduino-help.pd . There

Re: [PD] six sound outputs with sound blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1

2012-03-06 Thread altern
for sound blaster cards on windows an alternative driver exists. or existed perhaps ... i used it on xp.very nice check for your card compatibility http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/ thanks! I did not know about this. I will try it tomorrow ___

Re: [PD] Problem to compile Pd 0.43-1 with JACK

2012-03-06 Thread Jack
Le 06/03/2012 16:44, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-03-05 19:36, Jack wrote: Le 05/03/2012 17:25, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : any specific reason to use .../src/configure rather than .../configure? I followed the instruction in the

Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43

2012-03-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:53 PM Subject: tooltips in pd-extended 0.43 Hello, Hans asked me to write up an explanation of the new tooltips in pd-extended

Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43

2012-03-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think that we should be pushing GUI stuff to the Tcl side of things as much as possible, plus I prefer the current tooltip display down on the lower right. I find that popups right next to the mouse are often annoying. .hc On 03/06/2012 02:54 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original

Re: [PD] Problem to compile Pd 0.43-1 with JACK

2012-03-06 Thread Jack
Le 06/03/2012 20:32, Jack a écrit : Le 06/03/2012 16:44, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-03-05 19:36, Jack wrote: Le 05/03/2012 17:25, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : any specific reason to use .../src/configure rather than .../configure? I

Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43

2012-03-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:05 PM Subject: Re: tooltips in pd-extended 0.43 I think that we should be pushing GUI stuff to the Tcl side of

[PD] [OT] Fabric Engine

2012-03-06 Thread Ilya Dmitrichenko
Hi Guys, I have just discovered Fabric Engine a couple of days ago and had been reading on since then, it turns out to be taking pretty amazing approach to hyterogenous computing problem (i.e. simplifying multicore cpu+gpu programming) in a high-level fashion. Please watch this video for some

Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43

2012-03-06 Thread Scott R. Looney
as if i remember Max in the olden days the inlet and outlet descriptors for objects were listed in the left bottom corner of the window. possible to give a choice for either way or is that too much coding overhead? scott On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:

Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43

2012-03-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-03-06 à 14:11:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : I do, too, but every GUI toolkit and its brother hovers them to the side of the current mouse location. A function for setting the current tooltip of a certain window could look into user settings to figure out automatically whether a

Re: [PD] [OT] Fabric Engine

2012-03-06 Thread Ilya Dmitrichenko
If you don't feel like listening about the background, start watching the presentation from here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWjJE-6Ln24feature=player_detailpage#t=2080s Please note, in this presentation the main subject is the FE browser plugin, but currently there are Node.js and Python

[PD] nonlocal message passing scope

2012-03-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hello, I was thinking about scope for receive/send names yesterday and thought of a way to implement something more flexible than (explicitly) using $0 to define the scope of send/receive pairs (and possibly other objects that register a symbol). My hack makes use of my get method for

Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43

2012-03-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at; pd-list List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43 Le 2012-03-06 à

[PD] Editing CSS style, make pd.info better? [WAS: puredata.info site design provocation]

2012-03-06 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Hey folks, I got my head around the CSS editing of PLONE. I can do the CSS job, the only downside is that it has to be done with Plone in development mode. This apparently would slow down the site a bit. However, fact is, if we modify a css class, this will affect the whole website. How should

Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43

2012-03-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-03-06 à 14:40:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : There are actually three possibilities-- balloon, statusbar, and window item at the bottom of the patch (which is the current pd-extended implementation). I don't know what's the difference between the last two...

Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43

2012-03-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
The window item is a canvas item and looks like the Firefox notification at the bottom left of the browser-- it can overlap content of the page, but is transient (and gets out of the way of the mouse if you happen to be mousing around in that area).  Firefox will put it on the bottom

Re: [PD] nonlocal message passing scope

2012-03-06 Thread Billy Stiltner
Here's how I've managed to send and receive from a parent(multi instance) abstraction to multiple instances of nested sub abstractions. within main abstraction [mainAb] some data named $0varsend it like this [s $0var] initialize sub abstractions pass names X_1 and X_2 in so you can send

Re: [PD] nonlocal message passing scope

2012-03-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I think the one thing I didn't cover that you mentioned was a parent trying to send data toan individual child abstraction.  Even if you could step through the entire glist one canvas symbol at a time, it's still extremely clunky and would require using the canvas echo method to pass

[PD] ANN: pd-l2ork v.20120306 bug-fix release now out

2012-03-06 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
A few minor bugs crept into the new tooltip implementation, so 20120306 version is now out. Tooltips now support both dockable behavior for the manual tooltips and cursor-centric text bubbles for dynamic tooltips. Also, all the shortcomings of tcl/tk's Enter/Leave events has been circumvented

Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43

2012-03-06 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
I think that we should be pushing GUI stuff to the Tcl side of things as much as possible, plus I prefer the current tooltip display down on the lower right. I find that popups right next to the mouse are often annoying. I agree, except I don't want to push this notion to the point where

[PD] call for [comport] testing!

2012-03-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I just committed a fix for the race condition that happens when a serial port gets disconnected on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. Please test heavily on those platforms, including yanking out the USB plug and going out of range with a bluetooth. It should just cleanly close the serial port now.

Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43

2012-03-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 6, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: I think that we should be pushing GUI stuff to the Tcl side of things as much as possible, plus I prefer the current tooltip display down on the lower right. I find that popups right next to the mouse are often annoying. I agree, except

Re: [PD] Editing CSS style, make pd.info better? [WAS: puredata.info site design provocation]

2012-03-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Also looks like a big improvement. I think whoever is actually going to do the work should make the final call on how it will look, but with community input, of course :-). Posting screenshots sounds like a nice way to review the possibilities, if people are up for generating them. .hc On

Re: [PD] nonlocal message passing scope

2012-03-06 Thread Billy Stiltner
I don't know if making it easier to do would be good for learning but it sure would be easier for doing. haha! I try not to think about how that works. once I figured it out I wrote down what I learned and use it as a reference or I'll just go look in a patch that I have used in and duplicate.

Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43

2012-03-06 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Even better, off load this to a GUI plugin, then people can choose the method that works best for them. But I still like Jonathan's original implementation the best. While there may be better, neither of them will be best when one relies on the Tcl/tk's implementation that delivers

Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43

2012-03-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Cc: 'Jonathan Wilkes' jancs...@yahoo.com; 'pd-list List' pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43 On Mar 6, 2012, at

Re: [PD] C++ for reusable dsp lib - or better use C?

2012-03-06 Thread Billy Stiltner
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Descriptor_Table I see all this 32 bit code needs to be ported to 64 bit. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] nonlocal message passing scope

2012-03-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
From: Billy Stiltner billy.stilt...@gmail.com To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [PD] nonlocal message passing scope I don't know if making it easier to do would be

Re: [PD] Editing CSS style, make pd.info better? [WAS: puredata.info site design provocation]

2012-03-06 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi Marco, Love it! A couple of ideas (bike shed opinions only of course): * Larger fonts look friendlier. * How many people have ever clicked the print/email icons? My guess is somewhere close to zero. * RSS icon should look like one, and maybe bigger. * Like the idea of a big fat