Re: [PD] Fwd: absolute vs relative filepath on oggread~

2013-02-01 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 01/31/2013 10:24 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona wrote: -- Missatge reenviat -- De: *Òscar Martínez Carmona* Data: dijous 31 de gener de 2013 Assumpte: absolute vs relative filepath on oggread~ A: IOhannes m zmölnigzmoel...@iem.at In reality now I'm facing some trouble composing

Re: [PD] BiDi-plugin

2013-02-01 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 01/31/2013 09:19 PM, Anas Ghrab wrote: Yes, good to know that... Is the solution for the problem of the cursor technically known and difficult to realize ? no idea. Pd currently manually sets the cursor to be on certain positions, without being aware of RTL/LTR or multicharacter glyphs.

[PD] Pd and pulseaudio (was: ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe)

2013-02-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2013-01-31 at 13:12 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Does it happen with Pd-vanilla 0.43.4 or 0.44? I just take that code directly from Miller since I've never done anything with programming audio interfaces. Pd definitely does not place nice with pulseaudio, Pd 0.44 _does_ play

Re: [PD] ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe

2013-02-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2013-01-31 at 13:12 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Does it happen with Pd-vanilla 0.43.4 or 0.44? I just take that code directly from Miller since I've never done anything with programming audio interfaces. Pd definitely does not place nice with pulseaudio, so make sure its not

Re: [PD] changing timestamp of noteout midi message

2013-02-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fre, 2013-02-01 at 02:19 +0100, Panagiotis Melidis wrote: hello all. i revive this thread to ask you if there is any way that i can edit a noteout message _after_ it leaves PD, in order to add the desired timestamp. midipipe in the end didn't work, so i am looking for alternatives, to

Re: [PD] change sample rate from patch and learn sample rate from file

2013-02-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fre, 2013-02-01 at 02:58 -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hi there, I see now you can easliy change pd's sample rate from preferences while the patches are running, this is a new thing, isn't it? Oh, I never tried to change the sampling rate while Pd is running. Interesting. Thanks for

Re: [PD] change sample rate from patch and learn sample rate from file

2013-02-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
yep, that does the trick :) now you can set pd's sample rate from the workings of the patch while pd is runing!!! according to some wav file at least, other file types would be nice. I say that checking sample rate is a cool and possible update to vanilla objects like [readsf~]2s or [soundfiler].

Re: [PD] ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe

2013-02-01 Thread Julian Brooks
Hi Roman, Cheers for clearing this up (and the previous email), info is always good. Still no idea what this error message is though? Hmm - oh well. Best wishes, Julian On 1 February 2013 11:36, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote: On Don, 2013-01-31 at 13:12 -0500, Hans-Christoph

Re: [PD] Working RPI Soundcards (was raspberry pi user experience)

2013-02-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fre, 2013-02-01 at 04:14 -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: by the way, since I've been abusing so much of the GUI to build me fancy interfaces, I can see how easily it can choke on its update and flood the CPU. Now, could an external video card help on that? What is the issue?

Re: [PD] Working RPI Soundcards (was raspberry pi user experience)

2013-02-01 Thread Charles Goyard
Hi list, just to say, I'm testing the terratec aureon 7.1 on rpi+pd. This interface works with the generic usb-audio driver. It does not work well. I can get proper stereo output at 44.1KHz but not more. If I setup pd to anything between 3 to 8 output channel, it gives a sawtooth-like output in

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!)

2013-02-01 Thread Ed Kelly
OK, so Pd-extended doesn't load any libs by default (except Gem of course). I'd like to suggest a fix for a problem I've encountered, especially when moving patches.  Would there be a reverse way of finding out what libs are missing from a patch? Even just to generate a file, it would be a good

Re: [PD] Working RPI Soundcards (was raspberry pi user experience)

2013-02-01 Thread Simon Wise
On 01/02/13 21:22, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: No, as nothing of current Pd can be hardware accelerated. A fast GPU would only provide a benefit for Gem. Therefore, you can improve the performance of GEM on a RPI with an external video card, cool. ??? I don't think you could add an

Re: [PD] change sample rate from patch and learn sample rate from file

2013-02-01 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 02/01/2013 01:34 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: yep, that does the trick :) now you can set pd's sample rate from the workings of the patch while pd is runing!!! according to some wav file at least, other file types would be nice. there's also my mediasettings library (don't know about

Re: [PD] Working RPI Soundcards (was raspberry pi user experience)

2013-02-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2013/2/1 Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com They are needed on the Pi ... there is no analogue input and the built-in analogue out is very poor, hence you need some external USB card to do more than use the stereo digital audio part of the HDMI output. Sure, but besides that, I'm just wondering

Re: [PD] Pd and pulseaudio

2013-02-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 02/01/2013 06:29 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Don, 2013-01-31 at 13:12 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Does it happen with Pd-vanilla 0.43.4 or 0.44? I just take that code directly from Miller since I've never done anything with programming audio interfaces. Pd definitely does not

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!)

2013-02-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 02/01/2013 08:55 AM, Ed Kelly wrote: OK, so Pd-extended doesn't load any libs by default (except Gem of course). There is some confusion there since all of the version/loading messages no longer show by default. The same libraries are all still being loaded by default, and the messages are

Re: [PD] change sample rate from patch and learn sample rate from file

2013-02-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 02/01/2013 09:45 AM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: On 02/01/2013 01:34 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: yep, that does the trick :) now you can set pd's sample rate from the workings of the patch while pd is runing!!! according to some wav file at least, other file types would be nice.

Re: [PD] BiDi-plugin

2013-02-01 Thread Anas Ghrab
The first problem is that you can't delete a character witch is not the last written character, because you can't place the cursor just after the wanted one. So it's impossible to edit the comment-text.Second, all is align at left : the text should be right-aligned (even in the canvas). An example

Re: [PD] Working RPI Soundcards (was raspberry pi user experience)

2013-02-01 Thread Simon Wise
On 02/02/13 01:03, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: pd and pd-gui are two separate processes and they run on separate cores, if there is more than one. That makes me wonder now hoe the [pd~] separates the processes between 2 cores then. I really thought PD was a single core processor that you

Re: [PD] Pd and pulseaudio (was: ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe)

2013-02-01 Thread Miller Puckette
Just to comment on why I ended up un-installing portaudio: I booted my Pi with a clean new Raspbian distro, compiled Pd (after installing some packages like git and alsa libs), ran it and found that pulseaudio was running. So I exit Pd and likk pulseaudio via pulseaudio -kill. Then start Pd and

Re: [PD] Pd and pulseaudio (was: ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe)

2013-02-01 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 18:29:15 +0100, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: Just to comment on why I ended up un-installing portaudio: I booted my Pi with a clean new Raspbian distro, compiled Pd (after installing some packages like git and alsa libs), ran it and found that pulseaudio was running.

Re: [PD] Pd and pulseaudio

2013-02-01 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 02/01/2013 06:29 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Just to comment on why I ended up un-installing portaudio: I booted my Pi with a clean new Raspbian distro, compiled Pd (after installing some packages like git and alsa libs), ran it and found that pulseaudio was running. So I exit Pd and likk

Re: [PD] Pd and pulseaudio (was: ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe)

2013-02-01 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 18:34:49 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote: On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 18:29:15 +0100, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: Just to comment on why I ended up un-installing portaudio: I booted my Pi with a clean new Raspbian distro, compiled Pd (after installing some

[PD] Manually add a library to load at startup (bug ??)

2013-02-01 Thread Pierre Massat
Hi, I'm on my Pi again, running Pd-vanilla 0.43.2 (from the debian repos). When I add the zexy library to the startup list in the GUI, it loads fine. However, when i simply add it in the .pdsettings file (loadlib : zexy), it won't load (although it appears in the startup list of the GUI) ! Is

Re: [PD] Pd and pulseaudio (was: ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe)

2013-02-01 Thread Miller Puckette
Pulseaudio respawns itself, unless you've configured it not to. You can disable it temporarily with the tool pasuspender. The syntax would be: pasuspender -- pd Good to know - but even though I now theoretically know how to deal with this, the whole thing gives me the creeps - what if some

Re: [PD] Pd and pulseaudio (was: ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe)

2013-02-01 Thread Pierre Massat
I think I read somewhere that Romero intends to make a film about this ;) Cheers, Pierre. 2013/2/1 Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu Pulseaudio respawns itself, unless you've configured it not to. You can disable it temporarily with the tool pasuspender. The syntax would be: pasuspender

Re: [PD] Pd and pulseaudio

2013-02-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fre, 2013-02-01 at 18:43 +0100, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: On 02/01/2013 06:29 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Just to comment on why I ended up un-installing portaudio: I booted my Pi with a clean new Raspbian distro, compiled Pd (after installing some packages like git and alsa libs), ran it

Re: [PD] Pd and pulseaudio

2013-02-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fre, 2013-02-01 at 10:37 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [...] Yeah, that sounds like my experience as well. One thing I've heard is that pulseaudio can use jack as the backend instead of ALSA. That sounds like an ideal situation. Anyone messed with that? Yeah, there are some

Re: [PD] BiDi-plugin

2013-02-01 Thread Max
Hi, I was wondering why the ligatures in the word الموسي (letters ل and م are joint) work in the second line of the text but in the first line they are written apart – or am I missing something? Unfortunately I think that's a very common problem that a 10 pt font in latin is very readable but

Re: [PD] Pd and pulseaudio

2013-02-01 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 19:45:12 +0100, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote: On Fre, 2013-02-01 at 10:37 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [...] Yeah, that sounds like my experience as well. One thing I've heard is that pulseaudio can use jack as the backend instead of ALSA. That

Re: [PD] BiDi-plugin

2013-02-01 Thread Max
Am 01.02.2013 um 20:09 schrieb Anas Ghrab anas.gh...@saramusik.org: ‫‏في 2013/02/01، الساعة 7:57 م، كتب Max‎: ‬ I was wondering why the ligatures in the word الموسي (letters ل and م are joint) work in the second line of the text but in the first line they are written apart – or am I missing

Re: [PD] Loading Gui-Plugin in a Directory Other than in Standard Path

2013-02-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 01/29/2013 02:13 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Loading Gui-Plugin in a Directory

Re: [PD] Using Xapian for the Pd Search Plugin

2013-02-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 01/25/2013 09:55 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Using Xapian for the Pd Search Plugin On 01/24/2013 04:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

Re: [PD] BiDi-plugin

2013-02-01 Thread Anas Ghrab
‫‏في 2013/02/01، الساعة 7:57 م، كتب Max‎: ‬ I was wondering why the ligatures in the word الموسي (letters ل and م are joint) work in the second line of the text but in the first line they are written apart – or am I missing something? It's only a question of calligraphy. In the beginning of

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!)

2013-02-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com; pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!) On 02/01/2013

Re: [PD] Loading Gui-Plugin in a Directory Other than in Standard Path

2013-02-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Loading Gui-Plugin in a Directory Other than in Standard Path On 01/29/2013 02:13 PM,

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!

2013-02-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yeah, that's what the preferences should be for. That's why I removed the lib loading preferences from Pd-extended 0.43.4: so you can save the audio/midi settings without worrying about messing up the lib config. .hc On 01/30/2013 06:10 PM, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: I agree, the libraries

Re: [PD] Using Xapian for the Pd Search Plugin

2013-02-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Using Xapian for the Pd Search Plugin On 01/25/2013 09:55 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

Re: [PD] Manually add a library to load at startup (bug ??)

2013-02-01 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 02/01/2013 06:56 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi, I'm on my Pi again, running Pd-vanilla 0.43.2 (from the debian repos). When I add the zexy library to the startup list in the GUI, it loads fine. However, when i simply add it in the .pdsettings file (loadlib : zexy), it won't load (although it

Re: [PD] Fwd: absolute vs relative filepath on oggread~

2013-02-01 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 02/01/2013 07:14 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona wrote: I tried that but still got some errors that I don't understand: doing exactly the same i got this: [image: Inline image 1] and if I switch the order I get this: [image: Inline image 2] The second one gots closer to the goal, but why do I

Re: [PD] Pd and pulseaudio

2013-02-01 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 02/01/2013 07:25 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: since i was just playing around with pulseaudio recently, here some hints: - in /etc/pulse/client.conf, you can set autospawn = no to prevent pulseaudio from starting again and again. Alternatively, one can put that into ~/.pulse/client.conf which

Re: [PD] Manually add a library to load at startup (bug ??)

2013-02-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 02/01/2013 06:00 PM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: On 02/01/2013 06:56 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi, I'm on my Pi again, running Pd-vanilla 0.43.2 (from the debian repos). When I add the zexy library to the startup list in the GUI, it loads fine. However, when i simply add it in the .pdsettings

Re: [PD] Apply missing

2013-02-01 Thread Max
Am 27.01.2012 um 17:39 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: From: Max abonneme...@revolwear.com Am 27.01.2012 um 02:50 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 22:51 +0100, Max wrote: i noticed that in the current

Re: [PD] Apply missing

2013-02-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Max abonneme...@revolwear.com To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com; PD list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 1:32 AM Subject: Re: [PD] Apply missing Am 27.01.2012 um 17:39 schrieb

Re: [PD] standard library (was Re: [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!)

2013-02-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [PD] standard library (was Re: [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!) On