Re: [PD] anyone using array quantile?
Thanks for looking into it so quickly. all the best, Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk http://www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feed http://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 22 November 2013 16:11, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: Aha and bngo! In effect - array random is only looking at the lower 1/2 of the distribution. I made a stupid C data type fumble in the code. I recently tripped over a bug, too, in text set - will attempt to fix them both and issue an updated pd-0.45 in the next day or 2. Thanks for flagging this! Miller On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 03:56:54PM +, peiman khosravi wrote: Thanks. In this case I think something isn't right with [array random]. Using the same array, I get very different patterns with the two methods (see attached patch). The difference is obvious with a gaussian distribution, which looks skewed when generated with [array random]. Best, Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk http://www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feed http://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 22 November 2013 15:48, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: There could be something wrong. But array_random_bang() (in x_array.c) cooks up a pseudorandom number from 0 to 1 (I believe) and then calls array_quantile_float() with it. That's exactly what connecting random() to array_quantile in a patch should be doing. cheers Miller On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 09:38:59AM +, peiman khosravi wrote: Thank you very much. That does the trick. Though, [array random] doesn't seem to be working as I expected. Am I right to think that it should produce the same result as [array quantile] fed with uniformly distributed random values? If so I'm getting very different results here. Thanks Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk http://www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feed http://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 22 November 2013 04:16, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: I think the patch is occasionally (once every 512 times on average) sending zero to array quantile which then outputs the index of the first nonzero number in the table -- in this case a point with probability about 1e-45. Maybe try random 1e8 (or so) and divide by 1e8 to get a more continuous, less grainy random sample out of the array. cheers Miller On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 01:51:19AM +, peiman khosravi wrote: Hello, Has anyone got any experience with [array quantile]? I'm getting some strange results and I've done everything I can think of. I've attached a patch that should clarify the problem. Basically, sometimes, not always, [array quantile] returns some weird numbers that I can't explain. And a related issue: array random doesn't seem to be doing what it should be doing. It returns very different values, compared with quantile fed with random values between 0 and 1. Again, there is an example of what I mean in the attached patch. Thanks Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk http://www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feed http://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Live stream audio, do it with [oggcast~]?
Is [oggcast~] the object to live stream audio to another computer? And which one is the receiver? It's not mentioned in the help patch. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Live stream audio, do it with [oggcast~]?
On 2013-11-23 11:11, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: Is [oggcast~] the object to live stream audio to another computer? And which one is the receiver? It's not mentioned in the help patch. oggcast~ is the object to feed a streaming server, like icecast. it's main purpose is to build a web broadcast, rather than a peer-to-peer communication. (you will need a streaming server and a receiver, e.g. [oggamp~]; latency is usually quite high in such setups, expect 10sec) for low-latency peer-to-peer streaming, check [netsend~]/[netreceive~]. if you are on linux (or osx), you could also use an external application like `jacktrip` (`aptitude install jacktrip`) and use jack to setup your routing between Pd, network and speakers. finally, there's the iemrtp [1], which allows you to build an RTP streamer (both sides) within Pd. mgfdsar IOhannes [1] https://github.com/iem-projects/pd-iemrtp/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Live stream audio, do it with [oggcast~]?
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:19 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote: On 2013-11-23 11:11, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: Is [oggcast~] the object to live stream audio to another computer? And which one is the receiver? It's not mentioned in the help patch. oggcast~ is the object to feed a streaming server, like icecast. it's main purpose is to build a web broadcast, rather than a peer-to-peer communication. (you will need a streaming server and a receiver, e.g. [oggamp~]; latency is usually quite high in such setups, expect 10sec) for low-latency peer-to-peer streaming, check [netsend~]/[netreceive~]. if you are on linux (or osx), you could also use an external application like `jacktrip` (`aptitude install jacktrip`) and use jack to setup your routing between Pd, network and speakers. finally, there's the iemrtp [1], which allows you to build an RTP streamer (both sides) within Pd. Do I have to make the objects? There's no pd_darwin (I'm on os x) in the directory.. I did type make in this directory (I moved it to the 'extra' directory) and got this: cc -I/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include/pd -DPD -DVERSION='0' -arch i386 -arch x86_64 -mmacosx-version-min=10.5 -fPIC -I/sw/include -Wall -W -g -ftree-vectorize -ftree-vectorizer-verbose=2 -fast -o unpackRTP.o -c unpackRTP.c clang: warning: argument unused during compilation: '-ftree-vectorize' clang: warning: argument unused during compilation: '-ftree-vectorizer-verbose=2' clang: warning: argument unused during compilation: '-fast' In file included from unpackRTP.c:23: ./iemrtp.h:35:2: error: No byte order defined #error No byte order defined ^ 1 error generated. make: *** [unpackRTP.o] Error 1 Any suggestions? mgfdsar IOhannes [1] https://github.com/iem-projects/pd-iemrtp/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Live stream audio, do it with [oggcast~]?
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:19 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote: On 2013-11-23 11:11, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: Is [oggcast~] the object to live stream audio to another computer? And which one is the receiver? It's not mentioned in the help patch. oggcast~ is the object to feed a streaming server, like icecast. it's main purpose is to build a web broadcast, rather than a peer-to-peer communication. (you will need a streaming server and a receiver, e.g. [oggamp~]; latency is usually quite high in such setups, expect 10sec) for low-latency peer-to-peer streaming, check [netsend~]/[netreceive~]. Forgot to ask, are these the [netsend~]/[netreceive~] objects http://www.nullmedium.de/dev/netsend~/? Taken from this website: If you're looking for objects to stream audio over the Internet this is not what you want! However, streaming over Internet2 or local 10Mbit or even wireless networks works very well. Internet2? It also is alpha and can't make that either. Tried different solutions with the makefile, like change pd_darwin to d_fat (took this from Lyon's book) and some other stuff, but nothing worked out. There's still much to learn about unix.. if you are on linux (or osx), you could also use an external application like `jacktrip` (`aptitude install jacktrip`) and use jack to setup your routing between Pd, network and speakers. finally, there's the iemrtp [1], which allows you to build an RTP streamer (both sides) within Pd. mgfdsar IOhannes [1] https://github.com/iem-projects/pd-iemrtp/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] anyone using array quantile?
My pleasure . I want the stuff to work after all. I don't know if anyone else is using the new stuff so didn't throw it on pd-announce, but I've quietly poseted a bug-fix release on my page (0.45-4, msp.ucsd.edu). cheers Miller On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 09:36:30AM +, peiman khosravi wrote: Thanks for looking into it so quickly. all the best, Peiman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] It's too quiet in here
i got my ears on did someone say Phil Stone? Fractals? Pure Data? https://archive.org/details/Mandelboxporc15 On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:55 PM, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: Julian, there's ton's of California Pd weekend video material (presentations, discussions, workshops, live performance) but it must be viewed, edited, compressed etcetera. I would expect that it will be available at newblankets.org in a while. Katja On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote: Right on indeed. I for one am very much looking forward to poring over the (hopefully vast) documentation generated over the Cali Pd weekend of events. Did look very cool. Any news on that front? And Phil - The list has been quiet over the last week or so but definitely traffic going on all through Nov. Perhaps an issue with your mailer? All the best, Julian On 21 November 2013 21:33, Phil Stone pkst...@ucdavis.edu wrote: On 11/21/13 1:13 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 11/21/2013 02:04 PM, Phil Stone wrote: Hmm, this once-thriving list has gone awfully silent of late. Is this thing on? tap tap I had the pleasure of meeting, for the first time, several august members of the Pd community this past weekend, thanks to Joe Deken and New Blankets gathering some of us together in San Diego and Los Angeles. Miller, Roman, Ivica, Jonathan, (and Katja -- I didn't do more than say hi, sorry) I just wanted to say that I am grateful to be involved in a group of such talented and humble people, and constantly marvel at what a powerful tool has been placed into my hands, at no cost. May Pd never die! Hi Phil, It was great to meet you! Personally I've been sending diffs to Ivica to get some stuff into Pd-l2ork, so that some of the features I showed in my workshop will work out of the box. Best, Jonathan I'm keeping a sharp eye on your work with Pd-l2ork on OS X, Jonathan. It looks like such an excellent environment, I really want to work in it. For one thing, I've heard all the many good arguments for straight, unsegmented patch cords, but I don't think I'd ever get tired of seeing splined patch cords in my patches! Having seen both, I'd say splines work better in all ways. BTW, regarding the title of this thread; I just searched the archives and realized that I hadn't gotten any messages since Nov. 6. After my post today, I'm getting them again. Anybody else had any glitches in getting list messages, or is it something local for me? Phil ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] anyone using array quantile?
Great, thanks very much. I can't find it here though: http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html I've become addicted to this new stuff! *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk http://www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feed http://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 23 November 2013 18:34, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: My pleasure . I want the stuff to work after all. I don't know if anyone else is using the new stuff so didn't throw it on pd-announce, but I've quietly poseted a bug-fix release on my page (0.45-4, msp.ucsd.edu). cheers Miller On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 09:36:30AM +, peiman khosravi wrote: Thanks for looking into it so quickly. all the best, Peiman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] spectral mapping, anyone?
Hi, I'm Alexandre, I can send you stuff cheers 2013/11/11 Jaime E Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com These are older, but I understand E. Lyon might re-release them? http://www.somasa.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonSoftware/MaxMSP/FFTease/ J On Nov 11, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jeppi Jeppi jepp...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, just looking for some ready to be used spectral mapping effects implemented in pd, anything available? Specifically, just a way to slightly remap harmonics to make pitched sounds inharmonic. There is a paper by Alexandre http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/images/Dissonance_Model_Toolbox_in_Pure_Data.pdf but I couldn't find the link to the sources. Many thanks in advance! Josep m ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Cheap audio USB device with Raspberry PI -- works!
Anyway, I ended up buying this, tried it out, did the terminal tweaking, but... doesn't work properly at all :P what could I be missing? thanks 2013/5/21 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com hi there, so I'm buying this thing. I dindt understand this last message. Anyway, did you see this thing handles AC-3 files. That's cool huh? Any of you use it in linux? Is there a way to use AC-3 in pd? That'd be cool. cheers 2013/5/5 Alexandre Castonguay acastong...@artengine.ca Hiya, I didn't see a post by André but yes, he told me the 'dwc_otg.speed=1 added to /boot/cmdline.txt' had no effect. ttys, a Le 2013-05-04 18:48, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit : Yeah, Deal Extreme, Great, Free Shipping to Brazil :) 2013/4/30 me.grimm megr...@gmail.com That's without dwc_otg.speed=1 added to /boot/cmdline.txt *m* On Apr 30, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote: Blimey:) Could be really useful for workshops etc. £1.81 and free shipping to U.K (takes a while tho', so plan ahead). Nice find. Julian On 30 April 2013 21:54, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: i've added this info to https://puredata.info/docs/raspberry-pi/FrontPage it has no vendor/brand name, but the model is: HY544 Am 30.04.2013 um 22:14 schrieb Alexandre Castonguay acastong...@artengine.ca: Hi all, This card works (audio i/o) with the Raspberry PI (Raspbian). You just need to type 'amixer -c 1 set Mic 80% cap' in a term window to enable to Mic. In PD, under preferences, choose 'Alsa' as output and under 'audio configuration', select 'input Generic AudioUSB Device (hardware) Channels 1' and 'output Generic USB Audio Device (plug-in) Channels 2'. This is the beast :-) - http://dx.com/p/usb-3d-sound-adapter-color-assorted-5831 (2.80 USD!) Have fun, * Merci à André Girard! Alexandre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Cheap audio USB device with Raspberry PI -- works!
What problems are you having? Personally, I'm using a Behringer UCG102, which I had heard worked well with the Pi. It was not doing duplex audio, however, until I changed the samplerate from 44100 down to 32000 (honestly, I don't really miss hearing that last couple thousand hertz). It seems like whatever device you have, you need to fiddle around with it a lot before it works at all. Good luck, -Brian Fay ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] anyone using array quantile?
Oops, my bad. Should be up now. M On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 03:01:58AM +, peiman khosravi wrote: Great, thanks very much. I can't find it here though: http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html I've become addicted to this new stuff! *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk http://www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feed http://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 23 November 2013 18:34, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: My pleasure . I want the stuff to work after all. I don't know if anyone else is using the new stuff so didn't throw it on pd-announce, but I've quietly poseted a bug-fix release on my page (0.45-4, msp.ucsd.edu). cheers Miller On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 09:36:30AM +, peiman khosravi wrote: Thanks for looking into it so quickly. all the best, Peiman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
