Re: [PD] GEM causes sound glitches
Hey IOhannes, List Sorry for the late reply, I was in holidays. No problem, I just wanted to be direct concerning a problem that has been affecting the nice work that you do (I am aware of all you work and I am really grateful for this, more about this in the end of this email). And in order to improve the work I would like to continue to be direct :-). So, some other observations about my experience with glitches: I made all tests you suggested in the last months working with 2 complex projects. I've read everything concerning glitches in PD and I was working in OSX machines i5 and i7, m-audio interfaces and jack: - The problem appears even in simple operations with of GEM objects combined with audio - Computational power seem to hide the problem. If you share the power with other software the problems appear again. - Increasing buffer size works in some cases but it is basically the same case of the computer power If you want to listen to the glitches look at the first minute of this earlier version of a project installation we delivered in August. I've minimized glitches using an i7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Kvts3KWQ4 I will try to provide a minimum example patch, soon. Concerning my gratitude with people in this list: I finished my PhD in 2011 and returned to Brazil. I spend 2 years trying to validate in Brazil, fighting against corruption in the university, trying to get a job (who wants to give a job to a PhD with papers, prizes, etc?) and health problems in my family. The best way I found to keep my duties with my son and normal life was to work as independent artist. Half of my income during these two years came from projects or workshops using PD. After being criticized and isolated in my reserach department because I was using a difficult, free and not so documented software (words from my colleagues) PD provided me very nice work possibilites back home and means to keep my moral high. I am really grateful for the community and although I am not always present here I keep spreading the word and working hard. All the best, a great 2014 for everybody and thanks for everything. Luiz On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 7:35 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: On 2013-12-28 22:34, Luiz Naveda wrote: I accept that you think I am not a professional as you are and I also accept that I have all sort of design problems. No problem. sorry if it came through like this. i never wanted to insult you or question your programming skills (i don't know anything about them, so how am i to judge?). admittedly i was a bit fed up with an email which was basically saying: Pd claims to be a multimedia platform and is far from any professional standards. please fix this! (this reads as if my contributions (as this is what you are mainly talking about) to Pd do not meet professional standards and/or make Pd unfit for professional work...which i find slightly insulting myself). as for design problems: i really don't think that this was an insult. design problems creep in everywhere. personally, i have loads of them, so i find myself redesigning and refactoring things all the time...and i don't think that this is a bad thing per se. so please accept my terse comment as a simple: every now and then you should rethink your design. as for help: you *can* help solving any problem, even without being an expert in C++ and multimedia frameworks (dan has pointed out some ways). this is the way of open source: you don't have to be microsoft or apple to contribute to problems. gfrdsa IOhannes PS: probably the most constructive remark in my email was in the meantime, raise the audio buffer of Pd. depending on your patch, this *is* likely to solve your problem at least partially, so you shouldn't just discard it (as being yet another snide remark in an unfriendly email). ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda _ - PhD researcher http://www.ipem.ugent.be/samba - Director SysMus09 http://www.ipem.ugent.be/sysmus09 IPEM - Institute for Psychoacoustics and Electronic Music Ghent University Office: + 32 9 264 4127 Blandijnberg 2 Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM causes soung glitches
Iohannes, I am very sad to listen these words from you. I am just trying to point to a problem that I feel is important: making sound and work with gem causes glitches in several scenarios. It is a main problem for me and for some people I know. I accept that you think I am not a professional as you are and I also accept that I have all sort of design problems. No problem. But we have a problem here. I am just trying to wave the priority. I cant help solving the problem directly. My programming skills are not so good. But if you want I can do other tasks, try to raise money, I dont know. How do I start? I would like to ask you, in a very kind way and very friendly. Try not to reply posts like that suggesting that I am not professional or etc. It makes people afraid of contributing. Please, call me anything but let people express their opinions without being hit by emails like that. I am saying this waiving a white flag :-) Plese! All the best Luiz On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:49 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: On 2013-12-28 02:56, Luiz Naveda wrote: This workaround doesn't solve the problem. When you have to deal with messages, debugs and all sort of problems in the communication of instances it just start the wave of problems. most likely, you have a serious design problem. For newbies working with simple patches it is a frustration. For people working professionally in complex patches it is a hell. then you do you have a serious design problem. I think it is a annoying, important and bizarre problem for a software aimed at multimedia computing. The last time I had to deal with this rarely documented problem made me consider switch to other platforms. I wish someone could make it a high priority request for the PD developers. the fact that it is a rarely documented problem makes me think that the priority need not be as high as you suggest. in the meantime, raise the audio buffer of Pd. (and get yourself a decent gfx card with some proprietary (shudder) drivers). having said that, there is certainly loads of things to improve. since you seem to be working professionally in complex scenarios, i would like to invite you to help solving the problem (in a way that doesn't break everything platform X) fgmdsr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda _ - PhD researcher http://www.ipem.ugent.be/samba - Director SysMus09 http://www.ipem.ugent.be/sysmus09 IPEM - Institute for Psychoacoustics and Electronic Music Ghent University Office: + 32 9 264 4127 Blandijnberg 2 Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM causes soung glitches
This workaround doesn't solve the problem. When you have to deal with messages, debugs and all sort of problems in the communication of instances it just start the wave of problems. For newbies working with simple patches it is a frustration. For people working professionally in complex patches it is a hell. I think it is a annoying, important and bizarre problem for a software aimed at multimedia computing. The last time I had to deal with this rarely documented problem made me consider switch to other platforms. I wish someone could make it a high priority request for the PD developers. Best Luiz Naveda On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 6:54 AM, pured...@11h11.com wrote: - Another possibility : use [pd~]. See help about this object. it won't remove the glitches, the solution is really to have 2 instance of pd. 1 audio: -rt -nosleep... 2 video: -nrt -noaudio ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda _ - PhD researcher http://www.ipem.ugent.be/samba - Director SysMus09 http://www.ipem.ugent.be/sysmus09 IPEM - Institute for Psychoacoustics and Electronic Music Ghent University Office: + 32 9 264 4127 Blandijnberg 2 Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] PD people in Ciudade de México
Dear List, My colleagues in México are looking for someone with some experience in PD to help and make my patches work for a telematic performance involving dance, music and visuals (http://embodied.mx). Is there anybody willing to give us a hand there? Let me know (in spanish is ok) All the best Luiz Naveda -- Luiz Naveda _ http://naveda.info ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Nikon DSLR Capture with Pd
Hi there, Some time ago I made a system using pd + arduino to trigger my Pentax via infrared at specific time points. The goal was to take shots of paper objects jumping in a paper bed attached to a speaker. It is part of a series of studies of paper design and photography. See some photos here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dlbh1642r4h0vtj/f-k8i1R23f (and work here http:// paperdesign.naveda.info) It didn´t work well because there were hidden delays in the chain from PD to the Infrared led ...and the speaker was driven by pulses around 10 hz. I don't know if the patch is useful but the arduino code was based on the code from: http://sebastian.setz.name/arduino/my-libraries/multi-camera-ir-control/ So, if you have no problems with latency, just build a arduino-pd system (see pduino), get an infrared led and have fun! Let me know if its clear or if you need any help. Luiz Naveda On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:38 AM, me.grimm megr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone been able to capture images from a Nikon DSLR with Pd? I have a student who is able to control her dslr with osx image capture (space bar takes an image) but we can not seem to figure out how to capture directly with/to pd OR even trigger image capture with pd might work also for now BTW this is through the USB cable. thinking out loud - can pd send a system wide event like space bar though shell maybe to image capture? that is if pd can not control dslr directly m -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda _ - PhD researcher http://www.ipem.ugent.be/samba - Director SysMus09 http://www.ipem.ugent.be/sysmus09 IPEM - Institute for Psychoacoustics and Electronic Music Ghent University Office: + 32 9 264 4127 Blandijnberg 2 Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM question: reading from big videos
Hi João, Max, Indeed, the buffers would not solve the problem. But I was thinking that the patches controlling VLC and quicktime would provide a solution or a way to find a solution. Best Luiz Naveda On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: Hi João, actually those patches won't help you so much, as it aims at very short samples/videos up to about 8 seconds, depending how much memory your graphics card has. But they may give you an idea how to proceed. It's definitely not a good Idea trying to load a long HD movie in a [gemframebuffer] it might even crash gem if the memory on the card is not sufficient. but try if h.264 (compression) in pix_film runs smoothly enough (that may also depend on the OS you are on). If anyone disagrees with above please chime in. Max Am 07.09.2012 um 05:33 schrieb Luiz Naveda: Hi João, Have a look at the pristine tutorials of Max Neupert: http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Audiovideo and have fun! Luiz Naveda http://naveda.info On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 5:15 AM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi list, I have almost no experience with GEM, so I wanted to ask around about this. I have a patch that should play 3 HD films, in the following way: - the main patch plays the sound, and sends the frame-infos around through OSC - the frame-infos are received by 3 video player patches (each in one separate Pd instance), each one playing one film - the films are a bit heavy: 1/3 full HD = 640x1080pix each, around 6m long (maybe more). The playing speed is around 25fps, sometimes less, sometimes more - the hardware has a SSD disk, and i5 quad processor 2,7Ghz (I can't say yet much about the graphic card) Which object is more adequate to play these videos in GEM? Probably isn't a good idea to load the videos into RAM. The playback is also very variable: forward, backward, something else... That means, is there a buffer-setting that would help in this case? And, under this context, how fast could the video be played? Thanks, João ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda http://naveda.info ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda _ - PhD researcher http://www.ipem.ugent.be/samba - Director SysMus09 http://www.ipem.ugent.be/sysmus09 IPEM - Institute for Psychoacoustics and Electronic Music Ghent University Office: + 32 9 264 4127 Blandijnberg 2 Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM question: reading from big videos
Hi João, Have a look at the pristine tutorials of Max Neupert: http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Audiovideo and have fun! Luiz Naveda http://naveda.info On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 5:15 AM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi list, I have almost no experience with GEM, so I wanted to ask around about this. I have a patch that should play 3 HD films, in the following way: - the main patch plays the sound, and sends the frame-infos around through OSC - the frame-infos are received by 3 video player patches (each in one separate Pd instance), each one playing one film - the films are a bit heavy: 1/3 full HD = 640x1080pix each, around 6m long (maybe more). The playing speed is around 25fps, sometimes less, sometimes more - the hardware has a SSD disk, and i5 quad processor 2,7Ghz (I can't say yet much about the graphic card) Which object is more adequate to play these videos in GEM? Probably isn't a good idea to load the videos into RAM. The playback is also very variable: forward, backward, something else... That means, is there a buffer-setting that would help in this case? And, under this context, how fast could the video be played? Thanks, João ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda http://naveda.info ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Manipulate txt file?
Hi, Another option is the [matrix] (iemmatrix) and its .mtx files, which worked fine for me. Best Luiz Naveda On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: I just added a page on puredata.info: http://puredata.info/downloads/sssad Frank, if you are listening, it would be nice to have a tarball release posted somewhere for those not comfortable with SVN. .hc On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 16:34 +0100, Pierre Massat wrote: ... Where can I get sssad? I can't find it in Pd-extended. Pierre 2012/1/20 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at sssad is a state-saving system based on [textfile]. .hc On Jan 20, 2012, at 3:23 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: Thanks for your reply Hans, what i meant was some externals or abstractions that make it easy to add, delete and read any line anywhere in a txt file. I'm working on a sequencer/drum machine and i want to store every song in a text file. Pierre 2012/1/20 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at [textfile]? [srtfile] is an abstraction based on [textfile] for reading .srt subtitles. .hc On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: Dear List, Are there any objects to manipulate text files in Pd? I made a few abstractions to add any line (list) to any file with numbered lines (to facilitate access to a specific line afterwards). If anybody's interested, please let me know. Cheers! Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government. - Martin Luther King, Jr. Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda _ - PhD researcher http://www.ipem.ugent.be/samba - Director SysMus09 http://www.ipem.ugent.be/sysmus09 IPEM - Institute for Psychoacoustics and Electronic Music Ghent University Office: + 32 9 264 4127 Blandijnberg 2 Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] 3d tube with control of the position of the extremities
Dear List, I was trying to build 3d cylinders using GEM. But I the actual solutions (cylinder and tube) cannot be easily manipulated. I would like to control the x y z of the extremities of the tube, like a [polygon 2] but with control of diameter and faces of the cylinder. Any useful tip? I am really missing the point or there is no easy solution for that in PD? All the best Luiz -- Luiz Naveda _ - PhD researcher http://www.ipem.ugent.be/samba - Director SysMus09 http://www.ipem.ugent.be/sysmus09 IPEM - Institute for Psychoacoustics and Electronic Music Ghent University Office: + 32 9 264 4127 Blandijnberg 2 Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Firewire 800 camera for GEM
Hi all, Jack, did you check the prices? The usb cameras used to be cheap ~ 200 $ jaime, I was thinking about this cameraCan you give more impressions about it? Have you tried to exploit the potential fast response in higher frame rates? Best Luiz On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Jaime Oliverjaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote: why not usb2? I am using the playsation 3 camera with great results and its about 30$ On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote: Thanx for the info Chris. Do you know a 'good' FW400 camera with price 200 euros for this job ? ++ Jack Le vendredi 14 août 2009 à 20:38 -0400, chris clepper a écrit : Any FW 400 cam is supposed to work with a FW 800 port with an adapter cable. On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote: Hello, I look for a cheap camera ( 200 euros) with a Firewire 800 interface. I would like to use it for fiducial tracking. The camera would be attached to the ceiling and connected (with a 10 m cable) to a Mac Mini. Do you know the existence of such a camera ? Thanx. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Jaime E Oliver LR joliv...@ucsd.edu www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Easiest way to connect a wiimote to pd on windows
Hey Prashant! People need you here at PD community ! It would be nice to have a wiiSense working in both Win and Mac. All the best Luiz p.s. Do you still need that letter? Luiz Naveda _ - PhD researcher http://www.ipem.ugent.be/samba Director SysMus09 http://www.ipem.ugent.be/sysmus09 IPEM - Institute for Psychoacoustics and Electronic Music Ghent University Office: + 32 9 264 4127 Blandijnberg 2 Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Damien Henryd...@dh7.net wrote: Hello, I've install blueSoleil. Then GlovePie works, but wiiSense still crash. Do anyone have the source code to debug it, or any clue ? Cheers, Damien. Damien Henry a écrit : Thanks Hans, About WiiSense, here info I've got: http://wiisense.googlecode.com/ It has been written by Prashant Vaibhav \, August 2007; last version seems to be 17. On the web site they mentions that we should install blueSoleil first, I'll try this evening. Cheers, Damien. Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Ah, sorry, I didn't see the windows part. Someone in a workshop I taught got wiimotes working with Pd in Windows, I think it was wiisense. .hc On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Damien Henry wrote: Hi list. I need to port a patch that use a wiimote and the wiimote object to windows. I've try wiisence but the help patch crash pd, even with all conections and loadbangs remove. intenciate with no args make an error msg (arg missing), and with 1 it crash. Does anyone succeed to use wiisense ? I'll try glovePIE, any one succeed with it ? Any other way to make it run ? Cheers, Damien. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity. -John Gilmore ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Firewire 800 camera for GEM
Hey Jack, Have a look at this: http://www.ptgrey.com/products/index.asp Best Luiz Naveda _ - PhD researcher http://www.ipem.ugent.be/samba Director SysMus09 http://www.ipem.ugent.be/sysmus09 IPEM - Institute for Psychoacoustics and Electronic Music Ghent University Office: + 32 9 264 4127 Blandijnberg 2 Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Jackj...@rybn.org wrote: Hello, I look for a cheap camera ( 200 euros) with a Firewire 800 interface. I would like to use it for fiducial tracking. The camera would be attached to the ceiling and connected (with a 10 m cable) to a Mac Mini. Do you know the existence of such a camera ? Thanx. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd and matlab
Well, I think the idea Damien proposed is to use Matlab as a design platform, which is much more friendly than other languages, and have a kind of compiler to build the PD objects directly. People sometimes suggest GridFlow but I confess that I tried to manage the install several times without success... I would be a dream for me also... Best Luiz On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 03:56:37PM +0200, Damien Henry - Voxler wrote: Hi list ! Does anyone as already used matlab to make externals ? i find it quite odd .. the idea of using matlab which is t00 sl0w! but if really wish to check out - might look at the octave exteral ;] i think i live in the SVN. Cheers, Damien. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda _ Mobile: + 32 0487 245594 Office: + 32 9 264 4141 IPEM - Dep. of Musicology Blandijnberg 2 Ghent University, Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Wii remote and PD on windows - is it possible?
Dear Thomas Please, take a look in http://code.google.com/p/wiisense/ My friend Prashant developed a library to do it (except IR) but the project was abandoned. I moved to Matlab and video analysis to proceed with my research. I have some other kinetic library objects to perform a series of mapping/controlling of music samples with the wii. One day I will publish this library...I just need some time. If you have difficulties to implement I can sent to you his email. Best Luiz Naveda On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Thomas Jeppesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, First off all I'd like to apologize for asking this questian, as it seems to pop up regularly in one form or another, but after doing a search in the archives it's still not obvious to me if it's possible to make the Wiimote run together with PD on Windows. I see a lot of people talking about using the Wii-mote with Pure Data, but I've failed to find the external that will provide the link between my wii-mote and Pure Data running on Windows. Could someone please point me in the right direction? Cheers! Thomas ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda _ Mobile: + 32 0487 245594 Office: + 32 9 264 4141 IPEM - Dep. of Musicology Blandijnberg 2 Ghent University, Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] midi on 0.40.3-extended
Hey Zé, I just used a gambiarra borrowed from a discussion somewhere in this list: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/audio/simplesynth.html Set this software as you MIDI out. Where are you? I am in BH for the moment. Best Luiz On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:17 PM, padovani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone experiencing problems to play midi through QuickTimeMIDI on PD on Leopard (intel)? I've tried three different versions of the 0.40.3-extended for Mac i386 (after having tried the 0.39 version that crashed) and couldn't reach any Midi output device... other Apps play midi through quicktime with no problem... ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda _ Mobile: + 32 0487 245594 IPEM - Dep. of Musicology Blandijnberg 2 Ghent University, Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pdp_yqt
Dear list, Problems with pdp_yqt - dozens of codecs tested (suggestions found here), all get: pdp_yqt: unsupported video codec Problems with pdp_qt also System: MACBOOK PRO 2.4, MAC OSX 10.5 running Pd version 0.40.3-extended-20071231 Any suggestion? Best Luiz -- Luiz Naveda _ Mobile: + 32 0487 245594 IPEM - Dep. of Musicology Blandijnberg 2 Ghent University, Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended and Pd-0.39.3-extended on 10.5 Leopard
Hello, 8-( Leopard updated. Pd still crashing... This can be a really idiot question, but I was reading the comment abut Miller's version and thinking, why PD-extended is not a really an extension of PD? Like a module? Why it must be a complete package? If it is only the help integration, why not develop a support engine in separate? Register new libraries is not so difficult. If this question is really idiot, please ignore... Luiz On Nov 16, 2007 8:09 PM, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that sounds promising. I don't want to say this loud, but I had to switch to max to do some work that needs to get done immediately. (the problem is more related to Gem) at least I will be able to write good documentation about the differences betw. gem/jitter pd/max and maybe think about translators for the future. Is miller's pd using another tcl/tk version than pd-extended? marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I am in the process of upgrading the Tcl/Tk version for the nightly builds. I should have it done today, so tomorrow's build should include it. The new version of Tcl/Tk is supposed to address some of these crashes (I think they are related to Apple changing somethings in the push to make everything 64-bit, but I could be wrong). Please let me know whether this works for all y'all early adopters :) .hc On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:03 AM, Si Mills wrote: Hi Apple released 10.5.1 update today and it was hoped that it might solve this issue, but it doesn't seem to be any different. hopefully this will be rectified soon! thanks On 16 Nov 2007, at 13:07, bsoisoi wrote: Hey all, is anyone else having difficulties running either version of Pd- extended on OS X 10.5 Leopard? Whenever I hit the Help menu item, the whole program crashes. After this point, I am no longer able to save files, as the program will then crash upon save. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a leopard issue, has anyone had any luck getting around it? I've attached my crashlog. pdcrashlog.txt Thanks, ~Brandon___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list All information should be free. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda _ Mobile: + 32 0487 245594 IPEM - Dep. of Musicology Blandijnberg 2 Ghent University, Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Crash in Leopard
Hallo list! I've just installed latest PD-extended in Macbook OSX 10.5 Leopard. When I try to click on the help menu, it crashes. I 've experimented the same problem a couple of years ago in other macs. Anybody in the same situation? Best Luiz -- Luiz Naveda _ Mobile: + 32 0487 245594 IPEM - Dep. of Musicology Blandijnberg 2 Ghent University, Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sound annotation
Yes, it is possible with pd... But I think this would be useful if you need something like a list of words to work with the labels in realtime or any other especial application. There are good pieces of software to do this task for analysis. The most famous is Praat - http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/praat/ On 10/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello list, I am looking for a way to annotate sound, so to associate text information to sound files. Would it be a way in pd to do it? I would need to create time stamps in a sound file and associate keywords and notes to these nodes. I have searched the archives looking for this but perhaps has been called differently. I hope somebody can give me some clues where to find out more about this. thanks in advance, Alejandra ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda _ Mobile: + 32 0487 245594 IPEM - Dep. of Musicology Blandijnberg 2 Ghent University, Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd-extended 39-3 libraries load
I ask me the same thing every day... Nowdays I have had a strange problem. I have my own library which depends on some other libraris from PD extended. When I have to install it in other computers, I put my folders in 2 of the 10 slot-path but normally it misses 3 or 4 other libraries, so I start to look for the missing objects and rewrite all missing libraries in the 10 slots... Best Luiz -- Forwarded message -- From: Luiz Naveda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Oct 7, 2007 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [PD] pd-extended 39-3 libraries load To: pit klong [EMAIL PROTECTED] I ask me the same thing every day... Nowdays I have had a strange problem. I have my own library which depends on some other libraris from PD extended. When I have to install it in other computers, I put my folders in 2 of the 10 slot-path but normally it misses 3 or 4 other libraries, so I start to look for the missing objects and rewrite all missing libraries in the 10 slots... Best Luiz On 10/7/07, pit klong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello list, i've installed Pd-0.39.3-extended-rc5-windowsxp-i386.exe on XP, with default library set. i wonder that no dll's from the extra-path are available. and i do not understand at all, in file-path... there are 10 slots for paths, but you have plenty of more paths with libraries/ externals in pd-ext. how do i manage a startup that loads ALL externals, ALL dlls? regards, pit -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda PhD Student IPEM University of Gent - Belgium -- Luiz Naveda PhD Student IPEM University of Gent - Belgium ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] next conv in Brasil... meaning business
Hey Everybody, Sorry for the late reply. I really would like to work to a PD conference in Brazil. I am from Belo Horizonte (UEMG-UFMG-FUMEC) and my background is music performance, analysis, acoustics psychoacoustics, mediation technology, guitar, PD, Eyesweb, origami arquitecture... I love Macs, I work in a PC...I love PD but I work also with Matlab... I love Samba but I am working in the academic world... It is difficult this task to be subversive into the enemy's field ! 8-) I have experience with projects in Brazil (FAPEMIG, FINEP, research) and I can help with contacts, writing the project, finding money and support. I worked also in projects related with music education content for computer aided education and I know what the funding agencies want to read Let's be practical: (We can put subjects like free software, 3rd world and information, art/show/science/resistance actions into the conference timetable!) Who decides where will be the conference? What we have to provide in order to be a serious option? Who is pointing to São Paulo (must be there?)? Where is the PD community of Brazil? Who are the Brazilians or Pd users active in this proposition? We need a specific list. Best! Luiz On 9/10/07, Ed Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey alex, good to see you in Montreal, I think the small things happen all the time, at least that's what we strive for I hope. Meanwhile, the big thing can happen too in 2009. One thing I think would be a really good idea is if there is some kind of map around when things happen - the conferences always happen at about the same time every year. I've been at the ICMC twice now and I intend to go again, but that's always the last week of August or first week of September (for example). Really, conferences are far too short -- and busy. If we can find a two-week window in the international conference schedule (ISMIR. ICMC. Pris Ars Electronica, NIME etc) then we could do it then. Balancing this, those of us who have academic commitments need the summer to finalize our work, often, so maybe late July/Early August would be a good time? But---this is two years away. We still need to be precise about it though, because funding agencies are keen to have timetables/schedules etc. And I was gutted I didn't go to the party...but I'd love to see you all in Sao Paulo in two years time... Best, Ed *PORRES [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: If it is a problem to get university support Is actually the opposite. I Believe we could get much more involvement and fundings from it here in Brasil! :) You don't need to have the developers, you need people who stick together Sure, Cool... And as I said, it's nice to have some local meetings before an international one... and the goal must be gathering people! Users, whatever... like you described. It's better to organise the schedule so that people organised in one thing aren't likely to be interested in the other thing that happens at the same time hmmm, yeah, the event in Montreal could be much longer if things werent all at the same time... We could have here a longer event. If it is smaller, things could be not simultaneous... one way or another, there should be plenty space and material for a Convention here... Cheers alexandre torres porres -- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Nowhttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48223/*http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow(it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Lone Shark Aviation out now on http://www.pyramidtransmissions.com http://www.myspace.com/sharktracks -- Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now...http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/yahoo_com/trueswitch/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda PhD Student IPEM University of Gent - Belgium ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] next conv in Brasil... meaning business
Please, Keep me in touch. I am Brazilian researcher (systematic musicology) in Gent-Belgium. We are developing some work in Pd, kinetics and music. best Luiz On 8/30/07, PORRES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Darsha: Alex Porres would be the one to talk to concerning a convention in South America...I think there has been some very unofficial discussion about having it there in 2009Right Alex? - Glerm: Hello, +1 in Brazil. glerm -- Alex: Hi folks, just got in Brasil... I will start talking to people now and will be getting back to you next week... please send me some files in personal email messages concerning the fundings, I am having kinda hard time to keep up with the list. Meet Glerm above, a friend of mine who will gladly be involved with the organization, and has aso influenced me a lot and helped me getting into puredata :) cheers alex Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda PhD Student IPEM University of Gent - Belgium ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
