Re: [PD] Always, One leaves out an important element
Ah. Another Pd user riddled with the Catholic guilt. That's 10 'Hail Mary's for your sins... But nice work! John. On 2 September 2010 01:31, Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: !Whoops Try this one. My Catholic guilt is almost as bad as my government. ( NO NOT REALLY ) Metastudio 3 for Pure Data - Free download at: http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Mr. Porres in a new clip with vuvuzelas
Do a skid Porres!!! On 18 June 2010 22:08, Renato Fabbri renato.fab...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThZWL2ydtYo -- GNU/Linux User #479299 skype: fabbri.renato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Convolution / Impulse Response
Brilliant. Thanks. A quick test seems to suggest it's quite capable of long IRs. 2010/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: partconv~ should be included in Pd-extended. .hc On Jan 20, 2010, at 3:06 AM, Solen Music wrote: Hi, A quick search has led me to believe that partconv~ is a good way to explore impulse response reverbs in pure data. Has anybody compiled this for windows? ...or are there any other options that I should explore for that platform? Thanks in advance, as always! -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Convolution / Impulse Response
Hi, A quick search has led me to believe that partconv~ is a good way to explore impulse response reverbs in pure data. Has anybody compiled this for windows? ...or are there any other options that I should explore for that platform? Thanks in advance, as always! -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] stderr?
Hi, I've a patch which often will try to load textfiles that don't exist into arrays. And there are a lot of arrays. Will moving the resulting error messages to the cmd window using '-stderr' in theory reduce the drawing that tcl/tk has to do and thus help prevent sound glitches? Thanks in advance, -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] PdVST and Pluggo's demise (was 'max for live;)
Matthew Logan wrote: Has anybody tried putting a later version of Pd (from later than 2004) in there? I think it's time this question was asked again, in light of recent Max/Msp developments... http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/15/cycling-74-ditches-plug-in-development-support-free-commercial-alternatives/#more-5915 there may be a lot of stranded pluggo aficionados annoyed that pluggo is going the way of the dodo, looking for pastures new (but familiar). I've used and really liked pdvst. but got ultimately annoyed at the silly non-aligning graph-on-parent behaviour of the old version of pd that comes with it on the http://crca.ucsd.edu/~jsarlo/pdvst/ site Mr. Sarlo? is it possible to do a more recent binary build of this excellent tool? I think you may have a lot of former pluggo developers (who definitely are an imaginative bunch) converting to pd if this is possible. Mostly because of the demise of Pluggo and perhaps because of the expensive prices of the Max 5 upgrade and however much £'s Max for Live will cost. 2009/1/19 Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net: Hi, Matthew Logan wrote: Has anybody tried putting a later version of Pd (from later than 2004) in there? I don't remember which versions I used, but when trying the newest extended release version approx. one year ago it crashed on creation of the vst plugin in my host sequencer. I later used jack for Windows and midi-ox instead which worked quite well. Martin I just wanted to check to see if anyone has updated it without breaking it. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Alex x37v.a...@gmail.com mailto:x37v.a...@gmail.com wrote: As Live is proprietary software, and they have already embedded Max, I don't see how PD could get into it... though PD can be used in parallel to Live, sending midi [and I assume audio?.. using Jack or soundflower or something?] PD can also be used as a vst [though I've never done it, being a Linux only user, and preferring to work directly in PD]: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~jsarlo/pdvst/ http://crca.ucsd.edu/%7Ejsarlo/pdvst/ Besides the inline editing [inside Live], I haven't thought of a real example that cannot be done with PD along-side of Live.. though, it is not as slick.. -Alex On 1/16/09, harris_pil...@gmx.de mailto:harris_pil...@gmx.de harris_pil...@gmx.de mailto:harris_pil...@gmx.de wrote: hi guys, i was just wondering why you guys dont do this max for live thing that was announced? i guess there will be no way that pd will be implemented in live like that? but maybe someone in the list has ideas to work around that? for the ones who dont know what i'm talking about; it's pretty much this: ableton.com/extend http://ableton.com/extend ___ pd-l...@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Good sequencer patches for learning?
cheers, I will have a dig around your patches! I'll be interested to hear your 'grainstates' also, i always did like that reaktor patch when i used it. my plan for the tappable groove metro is not to use [metro] but to keep a variable table of times between output bangs. i hope to hook two drum pads to a [timer] based kind of bpm counter. one pad will input the downbeat times and the other the offbeat times (the usual decider in 'swing-factor'). if that makes sense?!? clearly it's still not off the ground yet but i'll post it when it is! 2009/5/11 martin brinkmann m...@martin-brinkmann.de: Solen Music wrote: I did mean step sequencer. i have allways been interested in step-sequencers, and made a few attempts to build a good one. of course i was not successfull in making the perfect step-sequencer... and i would not reccomend my creations for learning, since they are quite messy, and rather designed for my own needs, than for beeing 'good examples'. (i want things to be as self contained as possible (no abstractions), and 'hassel-free copy/pasteable') anyway, you can find some basics like the use of counters, select/route etc. also in my patches. www.martin-brinkmann.de, my_instruments, and i think the latest is called sequencers1. sequencer that runs off a tappable groove metro (to give the option of everything from rigid straight to super loose hand tapped swing). this sounds interresting. i have wondered a few times how to make something like that, but was not able to come up with something better than a tap-tempo with a simple 'swing-factor'. how does your groove-metro work? bis denn! martin -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Good sequencer patches for learning?
Hi, apologies for being so vague. I did mean step sequencer. I'm in the process of designing a 32 step sequencer that runs off a tappable groove metro (to give the option of everything from rigid straight to super loose hand tapped swing). I'm mostly building it around lanes of 32 v-sliders of values 0-127, so that apart from standard note/velocity pairings, I may use the lanes for controller data, cutoff envelopes etc. I'm basically looking to look through a good few patches to see what plan of action would be best to take. Frank I've looked at your pattseq and have garnered a good few very useful ideas from it. But unfortunately it's a little above me in terms of my Pd ability! So if there are any others too? Cheers again, John. 2009/5/5 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org: Hallo, Solen Music hat gesagt: // Solen Music wrote: Can anybody point me in the direction of good sequencer patches for learning? preferably vanilla or as close to as possible! Maybe 5.reference/qlist-help.pd ? :) Now, seriously: The answer pretty much depends on what sequencer means to you. Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Good sequencer patches for learning?
Hi, Can anybody point me in the direction of good sequencer patches for learning? preferably vanilla or as close to as possible! Thanks in advance, -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Openlab] London Patching Circles - 25/01/09
Can't make it next weekend. But please do make it a monthly/bi-monthly thing! 2009/1/14 Rob Canning robcann...@eircom.net: Ed Kelly wrote: 25th is good for me. i am going to confirm the 25th as fixed if we are using deckspace ie. i will be there on the 25th and can buzz people in I#ve been out of the loop for a bit - where are we meeting? http://dek.spc.org http://dek.spc.org/views.html if its =12 people - otherwise we will find somewhere else its important that people sign up on the wiki as its not a officially a public space and we know what to plan http://puredata.info/community/DeckSpace so far we only have 2 people signed up i think there is more interest than that... if you dont know how to use a wiki just email me and i'll stick your name down but really... ;) rob c ciao, ed Lone Shark: Synchromatic: Out December 1st 2008 http://www.pyramidtransmissions.com/store Also available through the iTunes store --- On Thu, 8/1/09, Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org wrote: From: Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org Subject: Re: [Openlab] London Patching Circles - 25/01/09 To: openlab open...@lists.pawfal.org Date: Thursday, 8 January, 2009, 1:23 PM Chris McCormick wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:14 PM, errordevelo...@gmail.com wrote: Let's do it on Sun 25th, mayb? generally that weekend 23,24,25 is good, isn't it? On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 05:27:47PM +, Robert Munro wrote: i could make it then. bring it on!! ditto! me too -- Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] London Patching Circles - 25/01/09
dang. won't be around that weekend. how bout the prev/next weekend?? whoops. thought i posted this to the list. 2009/1/4 errordevelo...@gmail.com: Hi. fallowing earlier discussion .. Let's do it on Sun 25th, mayb? it seems that should be alright, we still have 3 weeks to prepere and looking at the dates all of you guys mentioned when you gonna be away it looks like generally that weekend 23,24,25 is good, isn't it? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Textfile with character by character parsing??
Hi i'm looking for an object that I can read in a text file and bang it so that it outputs each consecutive character/letter in the file. i.e. bang the object it ouputs the first letter bang the object outputs the second letter etc. Does such a thing exist?? -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Textfile with character by character parsing??
Thanks for all everyone! I will try those methods! 2008/12/2 Claude Heiland-Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Solen Music wrote: Hi i'm looking for an object that I can read in a text file and bang it so that it outputs each consecutive character/letter in the file. i.e. bang the object it ouputs the first letter bang the object outputs the second letter etc. Does such a thing exist?? Yes [1]. But it would probably be far easier/more productive/more efficient to use a scripting engine for such tasks, for example pdlua for Lua or py/pyext for Python or something else (because then the string manipulation can take place without polluting Pd's symbol table). Claude [1] I started then abandoned development of a Pd-POSIX bridge once upon a time. It can do what you describe, for example this file has a subpatch that streams a file as a sequence of bytes (driven by [until] but you could use another driver): https://code.goto10.org/svn/maximus/2007/posix/examples/load8svx.pd You'd then have to parse the bytes into characters according to whichever charset you use (eg, UTF-8 is more complicated than ASCII..). -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Compressor for vanilla pd??
Does anyone know any nice compressor/dynamics abstractions that can run in vanilla pd? I tried a search both here and and .info but nowt... -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Would anybody like a portable version of Pd-extended with pdmtl?
I have made a portable version of Pd-extended with pdmontreal using Thinstall. If anyone wants the link for it please put up their hand! (or is this sort of distribution of Pd frowned upon?) -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Would anybody like a portable version of Pd-extended with pdmtl?
yeah it's a single .exe (sorry forgot to mention it's windows only) it fakes registry settings when you open it and deletes them when you close it so that it can be run from a flash drive. I'll send the link to your email. 2008/12/2 Joe Newlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: By portable, do you mean it can be run from a flash drive? I would be interested in checking it out. JN On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Solen Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have made a portable version of Pd-extended with pdmontreal using Thinstall. If anyone wants the link for it please put up their hand! (or is this sort of distribution of Pd frowned upon?) -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Compressor for vanilla pd??
Excellent. Thanks to all. I'm looking into learning how to implement compression by dissecting the patches so thanks a million for those. Does anybody know if there's any theory about soft knees, program related releases, etc., so as to maybe emulate opto style compression or other types of esoteric compression? 2008/12/2 Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hallo, Solen Music hat gesagt: // Solen Music wrote: Does anyone know any nice compressor/dynamics abstractions that can run in vanilla pd? I tried a search both here and and .info but nowt... Try this from two weeks ago: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-10/065505.html Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Textfile with character by character parsing??
Thanks Jack, Your method works perfectly! 2008/12/2 Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think, you can dig around [list-dripslow], [msgfile] (or similar). Here an exemple. ++ Jack Le 2 déc. 08 à 15:10, Solen Music a écrit : Hi i'm looking for an object that I can read in a text file and bang it so that it outputs each consecutive character/letter in the file. i.e. bang the object it ouputs the first letter bang the object outputs the second letter etc. Does such a thing exist?? -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] patching circle in London ?
cool. i can bring a pair of akg 414's if they're any use? 2008/11/19 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 07:44:09PM +, Rob Canning wrote: Solen Music wrote: i'm down for it too. based in bow. will be going back to ireland from 19th dec but any other time is good for me.\ ok .. i was thinking about mid-december .. irish in north east london? me too :) should i register with the wiki and join the members or will this post suffice? makes sense to write on the wiki so we can keep track of things centrally without having to use too much brain power. i reckon that that wiki memebr list is optional, you can get on the list if want to ..just in case if you wanna be contacted or whatever ..we not aming to track evry one! we will just have to post a list of people on the malinglist to get the right number of how many of us are gonna be there ;) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] patching circle in London ?
i'm down for it too. based in bow. will be going back to ireland from 19th dec but any other time is good for me. should i register with the wiki and join the members or will this post suffice?? 2008/11/11 Rob Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi, i have added deckspace as a possible location on the wiki with a description of the type of event that could be held here. if you are interested in any patching events here please sign up on this page: http://puredata.info/community/DeckSpace this space is for small events i think we decided errordevelopers place to be better for big things? cheers rob canning ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] patching circle in London ?
okay. joined the .info thing. i don't check this as often as may be necessary so do email me about this on thejohnflynn aaat gmail dooot com if there's news. sounds good. btw thought something was fishy when i saw your eircom address on the list. ha. 2008/11/16 Rob Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Solen Music wrote: i'm down for it too. based in bow. will be going back to ireland from 19th dec but any other time is good for me.\ irish in north east london? me too :) should i register with the wiki and join the members or will this post suffice? makes sense to write on the wiki so we can keep track of things centrally without having to use too much brain power. -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd MTL tarball/zip?
i can't seem to download the pdmtl tarball from http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions/Installation ?? -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd MTL tarball/zip?
thanks for that. that's the first time i've used svn. and it downloaded everything for me in a few seconds. i use xp for pure data and xubuntu for the net so it was quite a breeze getting the stuff. i'll look forward getting stuck into pdmtl. i've been using vanilla with iemlib thus far but this may make me switch to a more external based pd system. thanks again. 2008/8/20 patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi, yeah the server is down. but goto10 is not (cheers to goto10). as we add stuff from time to time (welcome to anyone who wants to contribute to pdmtl abstractions) it's a good idea to use the svn like this. svn co https://devel.goto10.org/svn/pdmtl/trunk/pdmtl pdmtl and then, when you feel for it do: svn up (in pdmtl) for me opening 1.browser.pd when loading pd is a bless (saving time): pd -open /home/you/pd/pdmtl/1.browser.pd also be sure to open at least the first time 0.info.pd - you will see if you are missing externals. pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?
thanks hard and claude. i will try both of those things. also. is there anyway to speed up the loading time of the arrays? it seems to take a good few minutes at the moment? where can i find iem16 ? I see that it's not in iemlib, or am i missing something? 2008/7/24 Claude Heiland-Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Solen Music wrote: is there anything i can do to save on RAM?? PD uses 32bits natively (unless you compiled it especially for 64bit), so the iem16 stuff would halve the amount of RAM required, but at the slight expense of audio quality (doesn't matter if your files loaded into tables are 16bit, but for delay lines you might notice the decreased dynamic range). also how can i calculate roughly how much RAM that pd will need per second of audio array/delay line etc.?? 4 bytes per sample * 44100 samples per second (or whatever the sample rate is) for 32bit audio. Plus a small constant (I hope) overhead for bookkeeping for each object. Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?
okay. i found iem16 at ftp://ftp.iem.at/pub/pd/Externals/ (duh! the giveaway was the iem bit). it seems to run okay on my windows machine. but is the only way to load something into the table16 object by copying from a regular pd array? i'm trying to patch up a scratch pd array which every sample will visit before arriving at it's table16. but is there a more elegant solution similar to soundfiler for this? thanks again. 2008/7/24 Claude Heiland-Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Solen Music wrote: is there anything i can do to save on RAM?? PD uses 32bits natively (unless you compiled it especially for 64bit), so the iem16 stuff would halve the amount of RAM required, but at the slight expense of audio quality (doesn't matter if your files loaded into tables are 16bit, but for delay lines you might notice the decreased dynamic range). also how can i calculate roughly how much RAM that pd will need per second of audio array/delay line etc.?? 4 bytes per sample * 44100 samples per second (or whatever the sample rate is) for 32bit audio. Plus a small constant (I hope) overhead for bookkeeping for each object. Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?
okay i've found a neat way of loading all the files into the table16's using a makefilename loop. my problem now is that i can't seem to play them because my player patch needs to know the size of each table16 when it calls for it. i've tried using arraysize and the expr size($s1) objects but both return no such table Is there any way to fetch the size of a table16?? this would really help me out! as my 1400 samples now only take up 1 gig of ram instead of 2-3 gigs 2008/7/24 IOhannes m zmoelnig [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Solen Music wrote: okay. i found iem16 at ftp://ftp.iem.at/pub/pd/Externals/ (duh! the giveaway was the iem bit). it seems to run okay on my windows machine. well, like all of our open-source externals, iem16 can also be found in the pure-data repository: https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem16/ afaik, it's also part of Pd-extended but is the only way to load something into the table16 object by copying from a regular pd array? afair, yes. i did not want to write a separate version of [soundfiler] that would be able to read into a [table16], and there was no way to use the original [soundfiler] to do this. the other solution is of course to use and upsampled [readsf~], as has been discuessed several times on this list (the discussion was about threaded soundfile-loading; nothing to do with iem16, but the same principles apply) fgmasdr IOhannes -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?
or, maybe a pitchable table16 reader that automatically loops back to the start upon reaching the end of the table16?? again, thanks. 2008/7/24 Solen Music [EMAIL PROTECTED]: okay i've found a neat way of loading all the files into the table16's using a makefilename loop. my problem now is that i can't seem to play them because my player patch needs to know the size of each table16 when it calls for it. i've tried using arraysize and the expr size($s1) objects but both return no such table Is there any way to fetch the size of a table16?? this would really help me out! as my 1400 samples now only take up 1 gig of ram instead of 2-3 gigs 2008/7/24 IOhannes m zmoelnig [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Solen Music wrote: okay. i found iem16 at ftp://ftp.iem.at/pub/pd/Externals/ (duh! the giveaway was the iem bit). it seems to run okay on my windows machine. well, like all of our open-source externals, iem16 can also be found in the pure-data repository: https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/iem16/ afaik, it's also part of Pd-extended but is the only way to load something into the table16 object by copying from a regular pd array? afair, yes. i did not want to write a separate version of [soundfiler] that would be able to read into a [table16], and there was no way to use the original [soundfiler] to do this. the other solution is of course to use and upsampled [readsf~], as has been discuessed several times on this list (the discussion was about threaded soundfile-loading; nothing to do with iem16, but the same principles apply) fgmasdr IOhannes -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?
ah indeed. a table of the array sizes. i'll get on that. until now i've been grabbing the array size (using [arraysize] external) on the fly whenever an array was called into tabread4~ thanks! 2008/7/24 hard off [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i would assume that the size of the [table16] tables would just be half of the original tables that soundfiler creates.. so, if you have your [table16] objects indexed with integers (and i guess you do if you have 1400 of them), then you would just take the original array size, halve it, and then write that size into a seperate table of table sizes. ie, you have a table, lets call it [table arraysizes] of size 1400, and you write values for the size of each of your 1400 samples at the index point of each sample. then when you want to play back a sample, you tell tabplay~ or tabread4~ or whatever to playback sample number x, and to get the size of that sample you just send a value of x to [tabread arraysizes] -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Save RAM memory usage ?
I'm looking for a way to shrink the RAM usage in my live patch. I'm currently running a patch for live usage which has 14 x 100 stereo audio arrays. and 14 x 20sec variable delay lines. there's also 3 vst plugins (compressor, limiter and tape style delay). the GUI isn't too busy, there aren't any vu's and the arrays and lots of stuff are hidden in subpatches. it is basically a 7 stereo channel (hence 14 x 100, 14 mono pairs x 100 clips long in timeline) ableton live-esqe system but with a delay line on each channel (i need different delay times each channel, hence no send setup). I have initialised all arrays to 6 samples (which i suppose i should change to 1 or 0 samples if possible). So that they take up the minumum amount of RAM when not in use (correct me if i'm wrong). i have a loop programmed that loads the audio files into the arrays and resizes the ones in use. they are 16 bit stereo files The most amount of arrays I've tried to load into the patch is 588 (42 x 14) which have been roughly 15secs long and i'm running at 44.1khz. this has lead to my RAM overloading and pd shutting locking and crashing. I changed the 4 of the channels to mono and got away with it. but pd still used up nearly all of my 2gb of ram. (i've recently bought more) is there anything i can do to save on RAM?? also how can i calculate roughly how much RAM that pd will need per second of audio array/delay line etc.?? and are there any other factors that are RAM draining (exc GUI)?? Thanks in advance, this list has been more than helpful to me in the past but apologies for lack of brevity this time! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
