Re: [PD] GEM: borderless window is also always on top (and hasn't an icon)

2011-08-01 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Jack wrote:


Is there a simple possibility (hidden) to avoid that the Gem window
become the top most window on linux when you send 'border 0' ?


border 0 in [gemwin] on Linux uses the override_redirect option in X11's 
XCreateWindow(). This causes the window to be untouchable and unlisted.


Contrast this with border 0 in [#out window] on Linux, which uses 
MotifWmHints to remove the border and decorations (buttons,title,etc), but 
allows Alt+leftdrag, Alt+rightdrag and Alt+middleclick to still work (or 
whatever key+mouse shortcuts you have mapped for move/resize/menu). This 
also makes the window listed in all window-lists (incl Alt+tab).


[gemwin]'s border 0 is the equivalent of GF's
  [#out window here override_redirect] instead.

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Re: [PD] GEM: borderless window is also always on top (and hasn't an icon)

2011-07-28 Thread Jack
Is there a simple possibility (hidden) to avoid that the Gem window
become the top most window on linux when you send 'border 0' ?
Thanx for help.
++

Jack



Le samedi 02 octobre 2010 à 20:06 +0200, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 In ubuntu, if I send border 0 to [gemwin], then the window (once 
 created), besides being borderless which is the expected part, also 
 sticks on top and doesn't have a button in the panel on the bottom of 
 the screen as windows usually have.
 
 Not so in Windows, where it just creates a borderless window which, a 
 part being borderless, behaves as any other window.
 
 Is there a way in Linux to get a gem window that is simply borderless 
 without sticking on top and without having to renounce to the panel button??
 
 thanks
 m.
 
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Re: [PD] GEM: borderless window is also always on top (and hasn't an icon)

2011-07-28 Thread Pierre Mersadier
Le jeudi 28 juillet 2011 à 13:37 +0200, Jack a écrit :
 Is there a simple possibility (hidden) to avoid that the Gem window
 become the top most window on linux when you send 'border 0' ?
 Thanx for help.
 ++
 
 Jack



Yo Jack,
a simple trick for that is to use fluxbox,
with this window manager you can hide your windows decoration with a
simple shorcut:
http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Borderless_windows
easy and efficient

p.


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Re: [PD] GEM: borderless window is also always on top (and hasn't an icon)

2011-07-28 Thread Charles Goyard
Pierre Mersadier wrote:
 Yo Jack,
 a simple trick for that is to use fluxbox,
 with this window manager you can hide your windows decoration with a
 simple shorcut:
 http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Borderless_windows
 easy and efficient

is it scriptable ? If so it could be triggered from within pd.


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Re: [PD] GEM: borderless window is also always on top (and hasn't an icon)

2011-07-28 Thread Jack
Hello Pierre,

Thanx for the recommandation, but i am looking for a simplest way with
Ubuntu Gnome Classic.
It would be nice if i could send a message to [gemwin] to disable
topmost window when you send 'border 0' message (under Linux).
++

Jack



Le jeudi 28 juillet 2011 à 13:50 +0200, Pierre Mersadier a écrit :
 Le jeudi 28 juillet 2011 à 13:37 +0200, Jack a écrit :
  Is there a simple possibility (hidden) to avoid that the Gem window
  become the top most window on linux when you send 'border 0' ?
  Thanx for help.
  ++
  
  Jack
 
 
 
 Yo Jack,
 a simple trick for that is to use fluxbox,
 with this window manager you can hide your windows decoration with a
 simple shorcut:
 http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Borderless_windows
 easy and efficient
 
 p.
 



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Re: [PD] GEM: borderless window is also always on top (and hasn't an icon)

2010-10-02 Thread John Harrison
if there is no solution within Pd you could always use Devilspie:

http://live.gnome.org/DevilsPie

I use that app a lot with much success for issues like this.

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette 
matteosistise...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 In ubuntu, if I send border 0 to [gemwin], then the window (once
 created), besides being borderless which is the expected part, also sticks
 on top and doesn't have a button in the panel on the bottom of the screen as
 windows usually have.

 Not so in Windows, where it just creates a borderless window which, a part
 being borderless, behaves as any other window.

 Is there a way in Linux to get a gem window that is simply borderless
 without sticking on top and without having to renounce to the panel button??

 thanks
 m.

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Re: [PD] GEM: borderless window is also always on top (and hasn't an icon)

2010-10-02 Thread Pedro Lopes
Nice :) Didn't knew this one. Guess I'll customize my gnome bahaviour a bit.

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 8:47 PM, John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.comwrote:

 if there is no solution within Pd you could always use Devilspie:

 http://live.gnome.org/DevilsPie

 I use that app a lot with much success for issues like this.

 On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette 
 matteosistise...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 In ubuntu, if I send border 0 to [gemwin], then the window (once
 created), besides being borderless which is the expected part, also sticks
 on top and doesn't have a button in the panel on the bottom of the screen as
 windows usually have.

 Not so in Windows, where it just creates a borderless window which, a part
 being borderless, behaves as any other window.

 Is there a way in Linux to get a gem window that is simply borderless
 without sticking on top and without having to renounce to the panel button??

 thanks
 m.

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