Re: [PD] Pd + HTML on Android

2010-11-23 Thread chrism
Hi,

No, but there could/should be. I wish I had the time and motivation to
do that. Technically it would not be difficult at all, just time
consuming.

There is also this for Firefox 4:
http://code.google.com/p/web-pure-data

I have not been contributing much but you can see that Brandon and
Spencer have been pushing new objects (with unit tests!) in a at a
remarkable rate. Patches welcome!

Cheers,

Chris.

On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:37:50 +0100, Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it
wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there also a 'desktop' version?
 
 Lorenzo.
 
 chrism wrote:
 Get Pure Data patches working on Android devices with HTML +  Javascript 
 user interfaces:

 http://code.google.com/p/pd-webkit-droid/

 Have fun,

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Re: [PD] Pd + HTML on Android

2010-11-23 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

Hi Chris,

I also know about the web-pure-data and it seems really interesting for 
adding e.g. 'generative audio' to the web (I see it similar to SVG in a 
way).


What also interests me about your project (if I understood correctly how 
it works, because I have no android myself and couldn't play with it) is 
that the 'dsp' and 'interface' (i.e. html+js) remain somewhat separated.
A while ago I posted to the list asking about the possibility of having 
'modern' html connect to pd (via tricks), and it seemed rather impossible.

Maybe with HTML 5 supporting 'true' sockets this becomes realistic again.

Lorenzo.

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Subject: Re: [PD] Pd + HTML on Android
From: chrism ch...@mccormick.cx
To: Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it
CC: pd-list@iem.at
Date: 11/23/2010 09:41 AM

Hi,

No, but there could/should be. I wish I had the time and motivation to
do that. Technically it would not be difficult at all, just time
consuming.

There is also this for Firefox 4:
http://code.google.com/p/web-pure-data

I have not been contributing much but you can see that Brandon and
Spencer have been pushing new objects (with unit tests!) in a at a
remarkable rate. Patches welcome!

Cheers,

Chris.

On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:37:50 +0100, Lorenzo Suttonlsut...@libero.it
wrote:

Hi,

Is there also a 'desktop' version?

Lorenzo.

chrism wrote:

Get Pure Data patches working on Android devices with HTML +  Javascript user 
interfaces:

http://code.google.com/p/pd-webkit-droid/

Have fun,

Chris.

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Re: [PD] Pd + HTML on Android

2010-11-23 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi Lorenzo,

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:03:34AM +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
 What also interests me about your project (if I understood correctly how  
 it works, because I have no android myself and couldn't play with it) is  
 that the 'dsp' and 'interface' (i.e. html+js) remain somewhat separated.

That's correct. They both run inside the same Java thread, but they are quite 
independent with a small interface for passing data between them. The big down 
side is that on slower phones the WebKit stack can't send messages to Pd with a 
very short latency (seems around 100ms to 300ms) and messages back from Pd will 
confuse it if the come back too quickly. I think with time this will naturally 
get faster as phones get faster.

 A while ago I posted to the list asking about the possibility of having  
 'modern' html connect to pd (via tricks), and it seemed rather 
 impossible.
 Maybe with HTML 5 supporting 'true' sockets this becomes realistic again.

That would be nice. What I have mainly dealt with is sending data from an 
interface to Pd via netreceive and custom servers which support Pd's strange 
dual-socket networking. If I was going to implement the equivalent of 
PdWebKitDroid for the desktop, I would not do that though, I would do it much 
like it is in the Android version, with WebKit as a library and pd-lib by Peter 
Brinkmann. I'd probably use Python as the glue application language and either 
gtk-moz-embed or wxWindows with it's new webkit stuff.

Cheers,

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Re: [PD] Pd + HTML on Android

2010-11-20 Thread chrism
Hi,

Seems work work ok on 1.6 and 2.2

Cheers,

Chris.

On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:23:29 -0300, Jose Luis Santorcuato
santorcuat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, great...working with a specific version of android? (yes, i dont read
 the link).
 
 Best regards
 
 José
 
 2010/11/19 chrism ch...@mccormick.cx
 
 On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 21:38:36 +1100, Richie Cyngler
 glitch...@gmail.com wrote:
  Could it be used to make web apps too?

 I guess it depends what you mean by web apps. I can make your Pd
 patches run on Android with HTML interfaces to control them.

 The use case I most have in mind is this:
 http://mccormick.cx/news/entries/cheap-modular-fun-music-devices

 Cheers,

 Chris.

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Re: [PD] Pd + HTML on Android

2010-11-19 Thread chrism
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 21:38:36 +1100, Richie Cyngler
glitch...@gmail.com wrote:
 Could it be used to make web apps too?

I guess it depends what you mean by web apps. I can make your Pd
patches run on Android with HTML interfaces to control them.

The use case I most have in mind is this:
http://mccormick.cx/news/entries/cheap-modular-fun-music-devices

Cheers,

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Re: [PD] Pd + HTML on Android

2010-11-19 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Hi, great...working with a specific version of android? (yes, i dont read
the link).

Best regards

José

2010/11/19 chrism ch...@mccormick.cx

 On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 21:38:36 +1100, Richie Cyngler
 glitch...@gmail.com wrote:
  Could it be used to make web apps too?

 I guess it depends what you mean by web apps. I can make your Pd
 patches run on Android with HTML interfaces to control them.

 The use case I most have in mind is this:
 http://mccormick.cx/news/entries/cheap-modular-fun-music-devices

 Cheers,

 Chris.

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Re: [PD] Pd + HTML on Android

2010-11-19 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

Hi,

Is there also a 'desktop' version?

Lorenzo.

chrism wrote:
Get Pure Data patches working on Android devices with HTML + 
Javascript user interfaces:


http://code.google.com/p/pd-webkit-droid/

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[PD] Pd + HTML on Android

2010-11-18 Thread chrism
Get Pure Data patches working on Android devices with HTML + 
Javascript user interfaces:


http://code.google.com/p/pd-webkit-droid/

Have fun,

Chris.

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