Re: [PD] [OT] Computers just for maths? WAS Music Notation in linux
It's also pretty fair to say that all computers do IS maths. They perform binary operations at a rate of thousands per second. The fact that we've got these binary digits to produce a human-readable display, we use it to produce audio, and represent text, and we make our input in a non-mathematical form. That doesn't stop computers just being capable of maths. It's why programs are called applications, they're simply another way to apply maths. I, for one, am quite glad, because I'm good at logic, but barely average at arithmetic :p Andrew Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 09:07:09 +0100 From: lorenzofsut...@gmail.com To: ma...@artengine.ca CC: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] Music Notation in linux On 05/03/12 01:43, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-03-03 à 22:54:00, Lorenzo Sutton a écrit : You can create a midi output, with all the drawbacks and benefits. As far as I know there is no lilypond player, but to be totally honest I'm not sure it would make so much sense as lilypond is primarily a music typesetting language. Do you also mean it doesn't make much sense to use PureData for anything else than audio ? No, nor I see the logic by which you assume I mean that from the above statement. And computers were only meant for doing math, too. Indeed they are. And I don't think math is anything dirty, with less dignity than other disciplines, or to be ashamed of. Computers are very powerful, yet stupid, calculators. In fact in Italian we still use the word calcolatore to address a computer. And of course 'computer' itself stems from the French computer, and in turn from the Latin computare. [1] Saying computers are anything different is at best a (very intriguing) fascination; at worst plain mystification. Lorenzo. [1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/computer#Etymology ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] Computers just for maths? WAS Music Notation in linux
Le 2012-03-05 à 08:22:00, Andrew Faraday a écrit : It's also pretty fair to say that all computers do IS maths. I know all of that and understand those principles from beginning to end. But I'm not talking about that. I mean the users' activities. They perform binary operations at a rate of thousands per second. Wow, that really sounds exciting ! For a 1936 Zuse-1 computer with 22-bit ints and 33-bit floats running at 1 Hz, there were already hundreds of them. Nowadays, it's impossible to get a damn phone that doesn't already do several billions per second. __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] Computers just for maths? WAS Music Notation in linux
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] Computers just for maths? WAS Music Notation in linux Le 2012-03-05 à 08:22:00, Andrew Faraday a écrit : It's also pretty fair to say that all computers do IS maths. I know all of that and understand those principles from beginning to end. But I'm not talking about that. I mean the users' activities. Users are silly. They want things like presets, beautiful interfaces, and an undo history that is too big to fit on a solar calculator. You'd do well to steer clear of them and focus on maths exercises. -Jonathan They perform binary operations at a rate of thousands per second. Wow, that really sounds exciting ! For a 1936 Zuse-1 computer with 22-bit ints and 33-bit floats running at 1 Hz, there were already hundreds of them. Nowadays, it's impossible to get a damn phone that doesn't already do several billions per second. __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] Computers just for maths? WAS Music Notation in linux
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 11:40:43 -0500 From: ma...@artengine.ca To: jbtur...@hotmail.com CC: lorenzofsut...@gmail.com; pd-list@iem.at Subject: RE: [PD] [OT] Computers just for maths? WAS Music Notation in linux Le 2012-03-05 à 08:22:00, Andrew Faraday a écrit : It's also pretty fair to say that all computers do IS maths. I know all of that and understand those principles from beginning to end. But I'm not talking about that. I mean the users' activities. It's fairly true, that while it's achieved with maths, it's rarely the purpose for which they're used. They perform binary operations at a rate of thousands per second. Wow, that really sounds exciting ! For a 1936 Zuse-1 computer with 22-bit ints and 33-bit floats running at 1 Hz, there were already hundreds of them. Nowadays, it's impossible to get a damn phone that doesn't already do several billions per second. I'm wondering if there's a benefit to mobile computers (with phone apps) which do less than that a second. __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
