Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Origination and Metacreation: a conversation with Ben Bogart

2011-09-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, András Murányi wrote:

Well, I'm not academic and I'm also rather careful with dualist ideas, 
however, instead of creative vs rational, which are, least to say, not 
mutually exclusive, I usually use inductive vs deductive. Maybe that's 
what you mean too


Sounds like it :)

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Origination and Metacreation: a conversation with Ben Bogart

2011-09-11 Thread András Murányi
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 20:38, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:

 On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote:

  Dear all, it's with great pleasure that I share with you this piece. I had
 an inspiring, in-depth conversation with artist and fellow Pd'er Ben Bogart
 over the last months, and this is the result:


 « Rational and creative thought are two extremes of a single process.
 Rational associations involve activations of few memories in very focused
 directions, while creative associations involve the activation of many
 memories in many different directions. »

 Oh, so THAT's what creativity means !

 Why is it called creative, if one can create new thoughts and new things
 from rational thought, especially thoughts and things that so-called
 «creative» thought can't come up with ?

 Fortunately, that kind of jargon isn't used in the actual MSc thesis. I
 mean, the word creative is not used in the same way, especially as the word
 «rational» doesn't appear at all.



Well, I'm not academic and I'm also rather careful with dualist ideas,
however, instead of creative vs rational, which are, least to say, not
mutually exclusive, I usually use inductive vs deductive. Maybe that's what
you mean too - maybe not...

Andras
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Origination and Metacreation: a conversation with Ben Bogart

2011-09-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote:

Dear all, it's with great pleasure that I share with you this piece. I 
had an inspiring, in-depth conversation with artist and fellow Pd'er Ben 
Bogart over the last months, and this is the result:


« Rational and creative thought are two extremes of a single process.  
Rational associations involve activations of few memories in very focused 
directions, while creative associations involve the activation of many 
memories in many different directions. »


Oh, so THAT's what creativity means !

Why is it called creative, if one can create new thoughts and new things 
from rational thought, especially thoughts and things that so-called 
«creative» thought can't come up with ?


Fortunately, that kind of jargon isn't used in the actual MSc thesis. I 
mean, the word creative is not used in the same way, especially as the 
word «rational» doesn't appear at all.


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[PD] [PD-announce] Origination and Metacreation: a conversation with Ben Bogart

2011-09-08 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Dear all,

it's with great pleasure that I share with you this piece.
I had an inspiring, in-depth conversation with artist and fellow Pd'er Ben
Bogart over the last months, and this is the result:

http://vagueterrain.net/content/2011/09/origination-and-metacreation-conversation-ben-bogart

Tags: MAM, creativity, machine imagination, innovation+open source,
techno-cultural methodology, awareness+ubiquitous computing, tech
distribution,

Thanks Ben, Greg @VT,
best wishes,

-- 
Marco Donnarumma
Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher
ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
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