Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals
I agree - that would be fun. It would make them all a bit more CPU intensive though. In the meantime, you could sample a re-ranged oscillator at control rate and send that into +decimate~'s folds inlet, e.g: [osc~ 0.25] | [*~ 3] | [+~ 4] | |[bang~] |/ [snapshot~] Not the perfectly smooth control change you're looking for, I know. But the folds parameter causes distortion anyway, so you can get away with it :) William On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just wanted to give some feedback on the soundhack externals. I think they're amazing. There's a couple of them that i'll use extensively in the future for sure. So thanks again for making these available. I'd like to suggest something if you plan on developping these pd externals further (you said it's a beta release). One very cool thing about some pd object is there ability to be controlled by audio signals in a smooth and inaudible way (like [vcf~]'s center frequency). I have no idea how much work would be needed to do this, but it would be really nice to make some inputs controllable by audio signals. I'm thinking about the fold parameter in the +decimate~ object for instance, which would be awesome if it could be controlled by an oscillator. Pierre 2010/9/2 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com Thanks! Pierre 2010/9/2 Tom Erbe soundh...@san.rr.com its still in beta stage... once it is solid and stable we will look at full docs. in the meantime, you can check out the spectral shapers documentation for info on morphfilter. it is identical to the plugin. http://www.soundhack.com/shapers.php chebyshev simply brings up the various chebyshev polynomials as waveshapers - giving you different flavors of harmonic distortion. put a osc~*~ into it and play with the faders, also play with the level of osc~. very handy if you want to cut through a mix :-) On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for making this available, i think i'm gonna love these externals. I was wondering whether there is any documentation about these patches. I am a little confused with two objects, the chebishev distortion (i don't really know how to use the sliders, that is i'm not able to predict what the sound will be if i move a slider) and the morphfilter (what is interesting to feed the two tables with? the spectrum of two different sounds? it doesn't sound particularly interesting if i drawn something. I guess that's one of the reasons it reads that it's complex external...). Thanks again anyway! Pierre 2010/9/1 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 10:07 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 07:44:57PM -0700, Tom Erbe wrote: We have just released the first complete version of the SoundHack externals for PD Max. ... This package is available (free) at http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php Thanks for making these avaiable. Am I right in assuming that this is free as in beer or can we expect the source code as well? Ciao Fun stuff! I hope the source will also be available so we can make Android/iPhone builds, etc. I notice that on the site, it says drop into pd/extra. But since Miller included my patch in 0.43 with the standardized user-install locations, I think most users will want to do it like this: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files-with-pd-extended .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre at soundhack dot com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre at soundhack dot com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- William Brent www.williambrent.com “Great minds flock together” Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century www.conflations.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010, Frank Barknecht wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 07:44:57PM -0700, Tom Erbe wrote: We have just released the first complete version of the SoundHack externals for PD Max. This package is available (free) at http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php Thanks for making these avaiable. Am I right in assuming that this is free as in beer or can we expect the source code as well? getting the source code isn't the same as getting the rights to do whatever you want with it. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals
Hi, I just wanted to give some feedback on the soundhack externals. I think they're amazing. There's a couple of them that i'll use extensively in the future for sure. So thanks again for making these available. I'd like to suggest something if you plan on developping these pd externals further (you said it's a beta release). One very cool thing about some pd object is there ability to be controlled by audio signals in a smooth and inaudible way (like [vcf~]'s center frequency). I have no idea how much work would be needed to do this, but it would be really nice to make some inputs controllable by audio signals. I'm thinking about the fold parameter in the +decimate~ object for instance, which would be awesome if it could be controlled by an oscillator. Pierre 2010/9/2 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com Thanks! Pierre 2010/9/2 Tom Erbe soundh...@san.rr.com its still in beta stage... once it is solid and stable we will look at full docs. in the meantime, you can check out the spectral shapers documentation for info on morphfilter. it is identical to the plugin. http://www.soundhack.com/shapers.php chebyshev simply brings up the various chebyshev polynomials as waveshapers - giving you different flavors of harmonic distortion. put a osc~*~ into it and play with the faders, also play with the level of osc~. very handy if you want to cut through a mix :-) On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for making this available, i think i'm gonna love these externals. I was wondering whether there is any documentation about these patches. I am a little confused with two objects, the chebishev distortion (i don't really know how to use the sliders, that is i'm not able to predict what the sound will be if i move a slider) and the morphfilter (what is interesting to feed the two tables with? the spectrum of two different sounds? it doesn't sound particularly interesting if i drawn something. I guess that's one of the reasons it reads that it's complex external...). Thanks again anyway! Pierre 2010/9/1 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 10:07 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 07:44:57PM -0700, Tom Erbe wrote: We have just released the first complete version of the SoundHack externals for PD Max. ... This package is available (free) at http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php Thanks for making these avaiable. Am I right in assuming that this is free as in beer or can we expect the source code as well? Ciao Fun stuff! I hope the source will also be available so we can make Android/iPhone builds, etc. I notice that on the site, it says drop into pd/extra. But since Miller included my patch in 0.43 with the standardized user-install locations, I think most users will want to do it like this: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files-with-pd-extended .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre at soundhack dot com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre http://music.ucsd.edu/%7Etre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre at soundhack dot com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre http://music.ucsd.edu/%7Etre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals
Hi Tom, Thanks for making this available, i think i'm gonna love these externals. I was wondering whether there is any documentation about these patches. I am a little confused with two objects, the chebishev distortion (i don't really know how to use the sliders, that is i'm not able to predict what the sound will be if i move a slider) and the morphfilter (what is interesting to feed the two tables with? the spectrum of two different sounds? it doesn't sound particularly interesting if i drawn something. I guess that's one of the reasons it reads that it's complex external...). Thanks again anyway! Pierre 2010/9/1 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 10:07 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 07:44:57PM -0700, Tom Erbe wrote: We have just released the first complete version of the SoundHack externals for PD Max. ... This package is available (free) at http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php Thanks for making these avaiable. Am I right in assuming that this is free as in beer or can we expect the source code as well? Ciao Fun stuff! I hope the source will also be available so we can make Android/iPhone builds, etc. I notice that on the site, it says drop into pd/extra. But since Miller included my patch in 0.43 with the standardized user-install locations, I think most users will want to do it like this: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files-with-pd-extended .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals
they are gratis for now, perhaps libre later. but i haven't given this enough thought yet. tom On Sep 1, 2010, at 1:07 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 07:44:57PM -0700, Tom Erbe wrote: We have just released the first complete version of the SoundHack externals for PD Max. ... This package is available (free) at http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php Thanks for making these avaiable. Am I right in assuming that this is free as in beer or can we expect the source code as well? Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre at soundhack dot com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals
its still in beta stage... once it is solid and stable we will look at full docs. in the meantime, you can check out the spectral shapers documentation for info on morphfilter. it is identical to the plugin. http://www.soundhack.com/shapers.php chebyshev simply brings up the various chebyshev polynomials as waveshapers - giving you different flavors of harmonic distortion. put a osc~*~ into it and play with the faders, also play with the level of osc~. very handy if you want to cut through a mix :-) On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for making this available, i think i'm gonna love these externals. I was wondering whether there is any documentation about these patches. I am a little confused with two objects, the chebishev distortion (i don't really know how to use the sliders, that is i'm not able to predict what the sound will be if i move a slider) and the morphfilter (what is interesting to feed the two tables with? the spectrum of two different sounds? it doesn't sound particularly interesting if i drawn something. I guess that's one of the reasons it reads that it's complex external...). Thanks again anyway! Pierre 2010/9/1 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 10:07 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 07:44:57PM -0700, Tom Erbe wrote: We have just released the first complete version of the SoundHack externals for PD Max. ... This package is available (free) at http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php Thanks for making these avaiable. Am I right in assuming that this is free as in beer or can we expect the source code as well? Ciao Fun stuff! I hope the source will also be available so we can make Android/iPhone builds, etc. I notice that on the site, it says drop into pd/extra. But since Miller included my patch in 0.43 with the standardized user-install locations, I think most users will want to do it like this: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files-with-pd-extended .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre at soundhack dot com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre at soundhack dot com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals
TY Tom pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Tom Erbe Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 10:42 AM To: pd-list List Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals its still in beta stage... once it is solid and stable we will look at full docs. in the meantime, you can check out the spectral shapers documentation for info on morphfilter. it is identical to the plugin. http://www.soundhack.com/shapers.php chebyshev simply brings up the various chebyshev polynomials as waveshapers - giving you different flavors of harmonic distortion. put a osc~*~ into it and play with the faders, also play with the level of osc~. very handy if you want to cut through a mix :-) On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for making this available, i think i'm gonna love these externals. I was wondering whether there is any documentation about these patches. I am a little confused with two objects, the chebishev distortion (i don't really know how to use the sliders, that is i'm not able to predict what the sound will be if i move a slider) and the morphfilter (what is interesting to feed the two tables with? the spectrum of two different sounds? it doesn't sound particularly interesting if i drawn something. I guess that's one of the reasons it reads that it's complex external...). Thanks again anyway! Pierre 2010/9/1 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 10:07 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 07:44:57PM -0700, Tom Erbe wrote: We have just released the first complete version of the SoundHack externals for PD Max. ... This package is available (free) at http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php Thanks for making these avaiable. Am I right in assuming that this is free as in beer or can we expect the source code as well? Ciao Fun stuff! I hope the source will also be available so we can make Android/iPhone builds, etc. I notice that on the site, it says drop into pd/extra. But since Miller included my patch in 0.43 with the standardized user-install locations, I think most users will want to do it like this: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files-with-pd-extended .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre at soundhack dot com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre at soundhack dot com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals
Thanks! Pierre 2010/9/2 Tom Erbe soundh...@san.rr.com its still in beta stage... once it is solid and stable we will look at full docs. in the meantime, you can check out the spectral shapers documentation for info on morphfilter. it is identical to the plugin. http://www.soundhack.com/shapers.php chebyshev simply brings up the various chebyshev polynomials as waveshapers - giving you different flavors of harmonic distortion. put a osc~*~ into it and play with the faders, also play with the level of osc~. very handy if you want to cut through a mix :-) On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for making this available, i think i'm gonna love these externals. I was wondering whether there is any documentation about these patches. I am a little confused with two objects, the chebishev distortion (i don't really know how to use the sliders, that is i'm not able to predict what the sound will be if i move a slider) and the morphfilter (what is interesting to feed the two tables with? the spectrum of two different sounds? it doesn't sound particularly interesting if i drawn something. I guess that's one of the reasons it reads that it's complex external...). Thanks again anyway! Pierre 2010/9/1 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 10:07 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 07:44:57PM -0700, Tom Erbe wrote: We have just released the first complete version of the SoundHack externals for PD Max. ... This package is available (free) at http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php Thanks for making these avaiable. Am I right in assuming that this is free as in beer or can we expect the source code as well? Ciao Fun stuff! I hope the source will also be available so we can make Android/iPhone builds, etc. I notice that on the site, it says drop into pd/extra. But since Miller included my patch in 0.43 with the standardized user-install locations, I think most users will want to do it like this: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files-with-pd-extended .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre at soundhack dot com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre http://music.ucsd.edu/%7Etre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre at soundhack dot com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre http://music.ucsd.edu/%7Etre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals
On 08/31/2010 10:44 PM, Tom Erbe wrote: We have just released the first complete version of the SoundHack externals for PD Max. These externals replicate most of the SoundHack plugins and are offered free of charge. Included in this collection are externals for amplitude shaping and distortion (+compand~, +chebyshev~ +decimate~); single-head, multi-head, pitchshifting and granular delays (+delay~, +pitchdelay~, +bubbler~); and the spectral shapers, a set of spectral filters and dynamics processors (+binaural~, +morphfilter~, +spectralcompand~ +spectralgate~). This package is available (free) at http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php As this is the first release, we expect bugs - don't hesitate to write us at support at soundhack.com. These externals were programmed by William Brent, Tom Erbe, Daniel Arias, Bryan Oczkowski and Trevor LeVieux. Big thanks to the UC San Diego Department of Music and the Center for Research in Computing and the Arts for their support. PS - Don't despair - Windows versions are coming... Tom / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre at soundhack dot com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack It's looking like these include implementations of things that share the name of your pay plugins. Will these remain free indefinitely? Or only during testing? -Johnny ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 07:44:57PM -0700, Tom Erbe wrote: We have just released the first complete version of the SoundHack externals for PD Max. ... This package is available (free) at http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php Thanks for making these avaiable. Am I right in assuming that this is free as in beer or can we expect the source code as well? Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals
Yes - they will remain free. On Sep 1, 2010, at 12:24 AM, Johnny Ferguson wrote: It's looking like these include implementations of things that share the name of your pay plugins. Will these remain free indefinitely? Or only during testing? / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre - at - soundhack.com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 10:07 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 07:44:57PM -0700, Tom Erbe wrote: We have just released the first complete version of the SoundHack externals for PD Max. ... This package is available (free) at http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php Thanks for making these avaiable. Am I right in assuming that this is free as in beer or can we expect the source code as well? Ciao Fun stuff! I hope the source will also be available so we can make Android/iPhone builds, etc. I notice that on the site, it says drop into pd/extra. But since Miller included my patch in 0.43 with the standardized user-install locations, I think most users will want to do it like this: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files-with-pd-extended .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals
We have just released the first complete version of the SoundHack externals for PD Max. These externals replicate most of the SoundHack plugins and are offered free of charge. Included in this collection are externals for amplitude shaping and distortion (+compand~, +chebyshev~ +decimate~); single-head, multi-head, pitchshifting and granular delays (+delay~, +pitchdelay~, +bubbler~); and the spectral shapers, a set of spectral filters and dynamics processors (+binaural~, +morphfilter~, +spectralcompand~ +spectralgate~). This package is available (free) at http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php As this is the first release, we expect bugs - don't hesitate to write us at support at soundhack.com. These externals were programmed by William Brent, Tom Erbe, Daniel Arias, Bryan Oczkowski and Trevor LeVieux. Big thanks to the UC San Diego Department of Music and the Center for Research in Computing and the Arts for their support. PS - Don't despair - Windows versions are coming... Tom / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre at soundhack dot com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soundhack pd max externals
Excellent, thanks tom! J On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Tom Erbe tome...@san.rr.com wrote: We have just released the first complete version of the SoundHack externals for PD Max. These externals replicate most of the SoundHack plugins and are offered free of charge. Included in this collection are externals for amplitude shaping and distortion (+compand~, +chebyshev~ +decimate~); single-head, multi-head, pitchshifting and granular delays (+delay~, +pitchdelay~, +bubbler~); and the spectral shapers, a set of spectral filters and dynamics processors (+binaural~, +morphfilter~, +spectralcompand~ +spectralgate~). This package is available (free) at http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php As this is the first release, we expect bugs - don't hesitate to write us at support at soundhack.com. These externals were programmed by William Brent, Tom Erbe, Daniel Arias, Bryan Oczkowski and Trevor LeVieux. Big thanks to the UC San Diego Department of Music and the Center for Research in Computing and the Arts for their support. PS - Don't despair - Windows versions are coming... Tom / tom erbe | soundhack | 608 carla way la jolla, ca 92037 / tre at soundhack dot com | http://www.soundhack.com / http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre | http://www.facebook.com/soundhack ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Jaime E Oliver LR www.jaimeoliver.pe 858 750 0924 (cel) 858 202 1522 (home) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
