Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-18 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, David Powers hat gesagt: // David Powers wrote: I'm wondering if I should use something like PyExt to do some of the mapping, as I don't know of any simple way to do hash dictionaries in PD itself. As a test last night, I built a simple abstraction to take notes C C# D etc. and output

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-18 Thread Michal Seta
Hi all, This is a very interesting discussion, I have been thinking of generating directives/instructions/scores (mostly in that order) for performers (definitely in the context of improvised music) but had not (yet?) got around to implementing anything. One thing that I did consider, though,

[PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread David Powers
Hello, I have a question, how hard do you think it would be create a notation engine for GEM? What considerations would go into the design? On the simplest level, I'm imagining doing non-rhythmic notation to display chords and cells for improvisors. Since the number of notes on a chord would be

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread David Powers
This sounds interesting, I will take a look at it when I get out of work... As far as what improvisors need, I'm working in the more 'experimental' improv scene right now, which means: 1. They won't be playing 'Cmajor7' but rather collections of pitch cells such as (0 3 5 1 2 4) in some specific

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread patrice colet
David Powers a écrit : This sounds interesting, I will take a look at it when I get out of work... As far as what improvisors need, I'm working in the more 'experimental' improv scene right now, which means: 1. They won't be playing 'Cmajor7' but rather collections of pitch cells such as (0

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread David Powers
1. (0 3 5 1 2 4) might make sense for an engineer because zero for him would be the first note, but a musician uses to start with one, not zero. If this notation is for expressing some voicings, that is a lot easier and free to read under jazz notation for a human, unless the numbers

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread David Powers
Okay, I guess I need to check out the pdmtl stuff, I don't have pd2ascii and ascii2pd but it definitely looks useful. (It took me a second to realize you wrote a note explaining where pd2ascii was from, I thought my pd-ext was missing something at first...) In fact, I definitely better revisit

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread patrice colet
David Powers a écrit : 1. (0 3 5 1 2 4) might make sense for an engineer because zero for him would be the first note, but a musician uses to start with one, not zero. If this notation is for expressing some voicings, that is a lot easier and free to read under jazz notation for a human,

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread patrice colet
Just remember I've made an abstraction for that long ago, it won't be as fast as DS but it works and it's attached patrice colet a écrit : David Powers a écrit : 1. (0 3 5 1 2 4) might make sense for an engineer because zero for him would be the first note, but a musician uses to start

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread Collin Oldham
Hi David list, I did a project at Stanford/ccrma, for which my pal Rob designed a system that used Lilypond to display the output of a patch, and that worked beautifully, from the performer's (my) point of view. Here's a link to his paper, see section 2.7.