Re: [PD] FT232 and PD (OSX)

2009-12-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Dec 9, 2009, at 8:36 PM, Simon Wise wrote:


Felix Obée wrote:
 I'm also missing a quick reference guide. Somehow OSX has hidden all
 pd-files from me (probably somewhere root?) and some overview  
would be nice.


on OSX all Pd files are inside the Pd.app folder, try the right- 
click menu to open it up.



The Help Browser gives you something of an overview (Help -  
Browser).  Or you can also look at Pdpedia:


http://wiki.puredata.info/en/

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Re: [PD] FT232 and PD (OSX)

2009-12-09 Thread Simon Wise

Felix Obée wrote:
 I'm also missing a quick reference guide. Somehow OSX has hidden all
 pd-files from me (probably somewhere root?) and some overview would 
be nice.


on OSX all Pd files are inside the Pd.app folder, try the right-click 
menu to open it up.



Simon


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[PD] FT232 and PD (OSX)

2009-12-07 Thread Felix Obée
Hello together,

this is my first post to this list, so please take it easy on me if I missed 
some point or my problem is trivial.

Here's the project:
I am building a system of approximately 200 little speakers that can be 
switched on/off individually. This works via 4066 8bit-registers that are 
filled by an atmega. I want to use PD to feed the atmega the bits that then go 
into the registers. At the same time I want to feed a step motor and get 
feedback about its current position.

Here's the question:
Has anybody here experience with using an ft232 
(http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/FT232BM.htm) with PD? It provides a virtual 
serial port via usb and appears the easiest (cheapest) way to communicate. I'm 
using OSX and drivers for the chip are provided.

I am not at all firm with PD right now. Last time I used Max/MSP an thats about 
5 years ago. As I understand, the [comport] object works with OSX now. I 
couldn't find much in the forum about sending data to the outside. Most things 
seem to be done via Arduino and its derivates…

Thanks for your help.

cheers
ff
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Re: [PD] FT232 and PD (OSX)

2009-12-07 Thread Martin Peach

The Arduino uses the FT232 or something just like it.
You need to install drivers for it. They are included with the Arduino 
software.


Martin

Felix Obée wrote:

Hello together,

this is my first post to this list, so please take it easy on me if I missed 
some point or my problem is trivial.

Here's the project:
I am building a system of approximately 200 little speakers that can be 
switched on/off individually. This works via 4066 8bit-registers that are 
filled by an atmega. I want to use PD to feed the atmega the bits that then go 
into the registers. At the same time I want to feed a step motor and get 
feedback about its current position.

Here's the question:
Has anybody here experience with using an ft232 
(http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/FT232BM.htm) with PD? It provides a virtual 
serial port via usb and appears the easiest (cheapest) way to communicate. I'm 
using OSX and drivers for the chip are provided.

I am not at all firm with PD right now. Last time I used Max/MSP an thats about 
5 years ago. As I understand, the [comport] object works with OSX now. I 
couldn't find much in the forum about sending data to the outside. Most things 
seem to be done via Arduino and its derivates…

Thanks for your help.

cheers
ff
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Re: [PD] FT232 and PD (OSX)

2009-12-07 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Not exactly, the Arduino Duemilanove uses the ATmega168 chip. I have no
knowledge of the FT232.

Comport works really well on OSX with Pd however. The only issue is that it
will crash Pd if you disconnect the USB without first disconnecting in the
software. This is in the bugtracker/list of fixes, so maybe sometime soon it
will be solved. Other than that, it works great.

Good luck on your project, and be sure to send documentation of the
completed work. It sounds interesting.

~Kyle

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.cawrote:

 The Arduino uses the FT232 or something just like it.
 You need to install drivers for it. They are included with the Arduino
 software.

 Martin


 Felix Obée wrote:

 Hello together,

 this is my first post to this list, so please take it easy on me if I
 missed some point or my problem is trivial.

 Here's the project:
 I am building a system of approximately 200 little speakers that can be
 switched on/off individually. This works via 4066 8bit-registers that are
 filled by an atmega. I want to use PD to feed the atmega the bits that then
 go into the registers. At the same time I want to feed a step motor and get
 feedback about its current position.

 Here's the question:
 Has anybody here experience with using an ft232 (
 http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/FT232BM.htm) with PD? It provides a
 virtual serial port via usb and appears the easiest (cheapest) way to
 communicate. I'm using OSX and drivers for the chip are provided.

 I am not at all firm with PD right now. Last time I used Max/MSP an thats
 about 5 years ago. As I understand, the [comport] object works with OSX now.
 I couldn't find much in the forum about sending data to the outside. Most
 things seem to be done via Arduino and its derivates…

 Thanks for your help.

 cheers
 ff
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Re: [PD] FT232 and PD (OSX)

2009-12-07 Thread John Harrison
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not exactly, the Arduino Duemilanove uses the ATmega168 chip. I have no
 knowledge of the FT232.


It uses the FT232 to communicate between the USB and the ATmega168:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18027806/Arduino-Duemilanove-Schematic
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Re: [PD] FT232 and PD (OSX)

2009-12-07 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Aaaah. Schooled me!

~Kyle

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:03 AM, John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.comwrote:

 Not exactly, the Arduino Duemilanove uses the ATmega168 chip. I have no
 knowledge of the FT232.


 It uses the FT232 to communicate between the USB and the ATmega168:

 http://www.scribd.com/doc/18027806/Arduino-Duemilanove-Schematic

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Re: [PD] FT232 and PD (OSX)

2009-12-07 Thread Felix Obée
Thanks for the help everybody!

As I understand it, the Arduino uses the FT232 for communication with the 
computer. So it should be recognized by pd and comport. I'll do some soldering 
and see, what I get.

http://arduino.cc/en/Main/MiniUSB

Is there a further documentation for the comport object, apart from Martins 
helpfile?
I'm also missing a quick reference guide. Somehow OSX has hidden all pd-files 
from me (probably somewhere root?) and some overview would be nice.

The project will hopefully be well documented to the last resistor. Right now 
we're working on synchronizing the switching to the 0-phase of the sound 
played, to avoid producing crackles when switching.

cheers
ff





Am 07.12.2009 um 18:03 schrieb John Harrison:

 
 
 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not exactly, the Arduino Duemilanove uses the ATmega168 chip. I have no 
 knowledge of the FT232.
 
 It uses the FT232 to communicate between the USB and the ATmega168:
 
 http://www.scribd.com/doc/18027806/Arduino-Duemilanove-Schematic 

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Re: [PD] FT232 and PD (OSX)

2009-12-07 Thread Ricardo Lameiro
hey

look at this link, it may help you

http://wiki.dataflow.ws/comport?highlight=%28comport%29


2009/12/7 Felix Obée fe...@amphibiousthoughts.com

 Thanks for the help everybody!

 As I understand it, the Arduino uses the FT232 for communication with the
 computer. So it should be recognized by pd and comport. I'll do some
 soldering and see, what I get.

 http://arduino.cc/en/Main/MiniUSB

 Is there a further documentation for the comport object, apart from Martins
 helpfile?
 I'm also missing a quick reference guide. Somehow OSX has hidden all
 pd-files from me (probably somewhere root?) and some overview would be nice.

 The project will hopefully be well documented to the last resistor. Right
 now we're working on synchronizing the switching to the 0-phase of the sound
 played, to avoid producing crackles when switching.

 cheers
 ff





 Am 07.12.2009 um 18:03 schrieb John Harrison:



 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.comwrote:

 Not exactly, the Arduino Duemilanove uses the ATmega168 chip. I have no
 knowledge of the FT232.


 It uses the FT232 to communicate between the USB and the ATmega168:

 http://www.scribd.com/doc/18027806/Arduino-Duemilanove-Schematic



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