Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-16 Thread Fred Voisin
In France we use to say plus on est de fous plus on rit (the more silly persons we are, the more fun we have) ! Fred Kyle Klipowicz wrote: I heard that cash makes it more fun. ~Kyle On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca mailto:ma...@artengine.ca wrote:

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Fred Voisin wrote: In France we use to say plus on est de fous plus on rit (the more silly persons we are, the more fun we have) ! On dit ça chez moi aussi, mais pour passer à travers un tel projet, il faut savoir se passer de ce dicton. _ _ __ ___ _

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-15 Thread João Pais
I think you can all forget pd4live. after all, it's a commercial company. When I asked Gerhard about it (a bit as a joke because I knew the answer), he replied something like BLAHGRGAHGAGGGRRG! which doesn't mean that a not-so-deep-but-similar integration can be made, using osc, jack, or

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ardour and Ableton are really targetted at different things. Ardour is a DAW for working in a recording studio, Ableton is a live performance tool. It would be great if there was something like Ableton that was free and based around Jack. Anyone know of anything? .hc On Nov 13, 2009,

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-15 Thread Rich E
The thing that impressed me the most about Max4Live (haven't tried it, just seen some videos) is that you can receive parameter changes of Live's controls within Max and you can send parameter changes to just about everything from Max to Live. So, you can have one automation control another, or

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-15 Thread Rich E
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: I think you can all forget pd4live. after all, it's a commercial company. When I asked Gerhard about it (a bit as a joke because I knew the answer), he replied something like BLAHGRGAHGAGGGRRG! which doesn't mean that

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-15 Thread Michal Seta
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:  It would be great if there was something like Ableton that was free and based around Jack.  Anyone know of anything? http://gabe.is-a-geek.org/composite/ it is in the planning stage... ./MiS

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-15 Thread Justin Glenn Smith
Michal Seta wrote: On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: It would be great if there was something like Ableton that was free and based around Jack. Anyone know of anything? http://gabe.is-a-geek.org/composite/ it is in the planning stage... My

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-15 Thread fred-ordi
Yes in effect Composite looks like a good start I'd like to test it asap, but actually I don't find in the project the features (I do not consider GUI) which impressed Rich (and me) for some ideas that are not so clear until now: it needs some practice to make it clearer (in a explicit way, to

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-15 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
I heard that cash makes it more fun. ~Kyle On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Michal Seta wrote: http://gabe.is-a-geek.org/composite/ it is in the planning stage... I hope that the guy has as much fun implementing, as he has

[PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Concepcion
Is it possible to integrate Pd with Ableton Live in a way similar to Max4Live, as a Live/Pd user (newbie really) this will be a very important issue in my work. As far as i know, Max4live includes many instruments that can be opened up in a Max canvas (similar to Pd) environment for editing, as

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-13 Thread cyrille henry
you can use a pd patch with max, using the pd~ object. so you can imagine pd4max4live... ;-) Cyrille Jeffrey Concepcion a écrit : Is it possible to integrate Pd with Ableton Live in a way similar to Max4Live, as a Live/Pd user (newbie really) this will be a very important issue in my work.

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-13 Thread Michal Seta
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Jeffrey Concepcion jeffreyconcepc...@gmail.com wrote: i am already aware of Jack for sending audio directly from pd to live and vice versa(not sure about midi capabilities), but i'm refering to truly open possibilities that this type of integration will allow.

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-13 Thread Pagano, Patrick
pdmaxisadoraflashliveunity-a-sauras. From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Michal Seta [...@artengine.ca] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 6:55 PM To: Jeffrey Concepcion Cc: pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-13 Thread Pagano, Patrick
: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:23 PM To: Jeffrey Concepcion Cc: pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live? I don't really know what Max4Live is, but I can say you've been able to send/ receive audio to/from Pd using Jack for years. I believe that the Pd jack implementation supports

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-13 Thread Justin Glenn Smith
The Ableton / max integration is pretty awesome, and it will not be possible to integrate pd into ableton without the ableton source code or some difficult (and illegal) reverse engineering. And as far as open goes, ardour is more open without any integration with any other app (except, as

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I don't really know what Max4Live is, but I can say you've been able to send/ receive audio to/from Pd using Jack for years. I believe that the Pd jack implementation supports at least 64 jack connections, so if you use another Jack-enabled app, you can have up to 64 audio connections

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Concepcion
To Michal: i see your point on the openness, and thanks for that link. i doubt Ableton will release it's source code, at least until they figure out how to open Live, as Gerhard mentioned, and still have enough income for 100 employees. It'll be a good day when Live users will be able to customize

Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

2009-11-13 Thread Justin Glenn Smith
Jeffrey Concepcion wrote: ... To justin: Can ardour be customized as a performance tool (which is abletons key feature IMO) No need for customization to use it that way, actually. It does not have the range of features that ableton live has, but I have used it successfuly as a source of