Re: [PD] PD on iPhone
anyone here already use it? is it mac only, is there another solution for non-mac users? On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: That's not correct, at least it wasn't in the past. You can upload scenes using Chris McCormick's rjzserver. h.c On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Igor Medeiros wrote: but the only way to upload scenes to use with rjdj is with a jailbreak iphone/ipod, is this correct? On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Joe White j...@rjdj.me wrote: Hi Eldad, Check out this page for more info on creating scenes (essentially pd patches + other assets). http://blog.rjdj.me/pages/pd-utilities There's a scene template that should get you started. Basically the app will run a patch called _main.pd and you can do whatever you like within it. All the assets are housed in a scene folder with '.rj' appended to it - If it's zipped call it '.rjz' Feel free to ask any other questions. Cheers, Joe On 10 October 2011 03:49, Eldad Tsabary tazberry_d...@yahoo.ca wrote: Thanks all Any quick guidelines on how to get it done with RJDJ? Happy thanks giving Eldad On 2011-10-09, at 1:01 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I'll second using the rjdj app on iPhone, for Android, use PdDroidParty. PdDroidParty on Android looks to be the best mobile Pd dev platform these days. http://mccormick.cx/projects/PdDroidParty/ .hc On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Eldad Tsabary wrote: Hello Does anyone here have experience with getting PD to work on iPhone or Android (using libpd or something else?) Thanks Eldad ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on iPhone
the rjserver didn't work for me on windows, but i didn't try more than once. I used this http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/11/howto-hacking-rjdj-with-p.html it's very straight foward so read the whole thing. It doesn't cover going in to your idevice via ssh so i googled it and found out (you must jailbreak first) this vid should help http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhEazLTkrOk. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Igor Medeiros igor...@gmail.com wrote: anyone here already use it? is it mac only, is there another solution for non-mac users? On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: That's not correct, at least it wasn't in the past. You can upload scenes using Chris McCormick's rjzserver. h.c On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Igor Medeiros wrote: but the only way to upload scenes to use with rjdj is with a jailbreak iphone/ipod, is this correct? On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Joe White j...@rjdj.me wrote: Hi Eldad, Check out this page for more info on creating scenes (essentially pd patches + other assets). http://blog.rjdj.me/pages/pd-utilities There's a scene template that should get you started. Basically the app will run a patch called _main.pd and you can do whatever you like within it. All the assets are housed in a scene folder with '.rj' appended to it - If it's zipped call it '.rjz' Feel free to ask any other questions. Cheers, Joe On 10 October 2011 03:49, Eldad Tsabary tazberry_d...@yahoo.ca wrote: Thanks all Any quick guidelines on how to get it done with RJDJ? Happy thanks giving Eldad On 2011-10-09, at 1:01 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I'll second using the rjdj app on iPhone, for Android, use PdDroidParty. PdDroidParty on Android looks to be the best mobile Pd dev platform these days. http://mccormick.cx/projects/PdDroidParty/ .hc On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Eldad Tsabary wrote: Hello Does anyone here have experience with getting PD to work on iPhone or Android (using libpd or something else?) Thanks Eldad ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- www.epicjefferson.com www.avmachinists.org Puerto Rico based Art Collective/ Non-Profit Org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on iPhone
Yeah I've been using it on linux and windows : it works great :) you also have the possibility to upload a scene to the rjdj site : http://rjdj.me/sharescene/ (a bit slower though) Bérenger 2011/10/18 Igor Medeiros igor...@gmail.com anyone here already use it? is it mac only, is there another solution for non-mac users? On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: That's not correct, at least it wasn't in the past. You can upload scenes using Chris McCormick's rjzserver. h.c On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Igor Medeiros wrote: but the only way to upload scenes to use with rjdj is with a jailbreak iphone/ipod, is this correct? On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Joe White j...@rjdj.me wrote: Hi Eldad, Check out this page for more info on creating scenes (essentially pd patches + other assets). http://blog.rjdj.me/pages/pd-utilities There's a scene template that should get you started. Basically the app will run a patch called _main.pd and you can do whatever you like within it. All the assets are housed in a scene folder with '.rj' appended to it - If it's zipped call it '.rjz' Feel free to ask any other questions. Cheers, Joe On 10 October 2011 03:49, Eldad Tsabary tazberry_d...@yahoo.ca wrote: Thanks all Any quick guidelines on how to get it done with RJDJ? Happy thanks giving Eldad On 2011-10-09, at 1:01 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I'll second using the rjdj app on iPhone, for Android, use PdDroidParty. PdDroidParty on Android looks to be the best mobile Pd dev platform these days. http://mccormick.cx/projects/PdDroidParty/ .hc On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Eldad Tsabary wrote: Hello Does anyone here have experience with getting PD to work on iPhone or Android (using libpd or something else?) Thanks Eldad ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on iPhone
but the only way to upload scenes to use with rjdj is with a jailbreak iphone/ipod, is this correct? On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Joe White j...@rjdj.me wrote: Hi Eldad, Check out this page for more info on creating scenes (essentially pd patches + other assets). http://blog.rjdj.me/pages/pd-utilities There's a scene template that should get you started. Basically the app will run a patch called _main.pd and you can do whatever you like within it. All the assets are housed in a scene folder with '.rj' appended to it - If it's zipped call it '.rjz' Feel free to ask any other questions. Cheers, Joe On 10 October 2011 03:49, Eldad Tsabary tazberry_d...@yahoo.ca wrote: Thanks all Any quick guidelines on how to get it done with RJDJ? Happy thanks giving Eldad On 2011-10-09, at 1:01 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I'll second using the rjdj app on iPhone, for Android, use PdDroidParty. PdDroidParty on Android looks to be the best mobile Pd dev platform these days. http://mccormick.cx/projects/PdDroidParty/ .hc On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Eldad Tsabary wrote: Hello Does anyone here have experience with getting PD to work on iPhone or Android (using libpd or something else?) Thanks Eldad ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on iPhone
That's not correct, at least it wasn't in the past. You can upload scenes using Chris McCormick's rjzserver. h.c On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Igor Medeiros wrote: but the only way to upload scenes to use with rjdj is with a jailbreak iphone/ipod, is this correct? On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Joe White j...@rjdj.me wrote: Hi Eldad, Check out this page for more info on creating scenes (essentially pd patches + other assets). http://blog.rjdj.me/pages/pd-utilities There's a scene template that should get you started. Basically the app will run a patch called _main.pd and you can do whatever you like within it. All the assets are housed in a scene folder with '.rj' appended to it - If it's zipped call it '.rjz' Feel free to ask any other questions. Cheers, Joe On 10 October 2011 03:49, Eldad Tsabary tazberry_d...@yahoo.ca wrote: Thanks all Any quick guidelines on how to get it done with RJDJ? Happy thanks giving Eldad On 2011-10-09, at 1:01 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I'll second using the rjdj app on iPhone, for Android, use PdDroidParty. PdDroidParty on Android looks to be the best mobile Pd dev platform these days. http://mccormick.cx/projects/PdDroidParty/ .hc On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Eldad Tsabary wrote: Hello Does anyone here have experience with getting PD to work on iPhone or Android (using libpd or something else?) Thanks Eldad ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on iPhone
Hi Eldad, Check out this page for more info on creating scenes (essentially pd patches + other assets). http://blog.rjdj.me/pages/pd-utilities There's a scene template that should get you started. Basically the app will run a patch called _main.pd and you can do whatever you like within it. All the assets are housed in a scene folder with '.rj' appended to it - If it's zipped call it '.rjz' Feel free to ask any other questions. Cheers, Joe On 10 October 2011 03:49, Eldad Tsabary tazberry_d...@yahoo.ca wrote: Thanks all Any quick guidelines on how to get it done with RJDJ? Happy thanks giving Eldad On 2011-10-09, at 1:01 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I'll second using the rjdj app on iPhone, for Android, use PdDroidParty. PdDroidParty on Android looks to be the best mobile Pd dev platform these days. http://mccormick.cx/projects/PdDroidParty/ .hc On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Eldad Tsabary wrote: Hello Does anyone here have experience with getting PD to work on iPhone or Android (using libpd or something else?) Thanks Eldad ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on iPhone
Le 2011-10-09 à 11:13:00, Eldad Tsabary a écrit : Does anyone here have experience with getting PD to work on iPhone or Android (using libpd or something else?) yes. __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on iPhone
I think the easiest way to experiment is with RJDJ Patrick Pagano B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Engineer UF Digital Worlds Institute (352)294-2020 On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Le 2011-10-09 à 11:13:00, Eldad Tsabary a écrit : Does anyone here have experience with getting PD to work on iPhone or Android (using libpd or something else?) yes. __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on iPhone
Hahaha, yes pdroid, only for android? i dont know Best Jose El oct 9, 2011 12:35 p.m., Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca escribió: Le 2011-10-09 à 11:13:00, Eldad Tsabary a écrit : Does anyone here have experience with getting PD to work on iPhone or Android (using libpd or something else?) yes. __**__** __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on iPhone
Le 2011-10-09 à 16:06:00, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : I think the easiest way to experiment is with RJDJ I use libpd in Objective-C++, using almost exclusively the m_pd.h (and not libpd's own). Actually, I'm almost using Vanilla, except for the way the sound API was replaced by a stub that I can plug in whatever. For a future Android port, I expect to use nearly the same except that the Apple UIKit code will be replaced by Android's toolkit and that the rest of the app will run as JNI. In the meantime, I made a Linux port of the app, so that Pd runs with PulseAudio instead of AudioUnit. AFAIK, this is the first occurrence of using PulseAudio directly with Pd, apart from LD_PRELOADing an OSS/ALSA emulator. __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on iPhone
I'll second using the rjdj app on iPhone, for Android, use PdDroidParty. PdDroidParty on Android looks to be the best mobile Pd dev platform these days. http://mccormick.cx/projects/PdDroidParty/ .hc On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Eldad Tsabary wrote: Hello Does anyone here have experience with getting PD to work on iPhone or Android (using libpd or something else?) Thanks Eldad ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on iPhone
yep, PdDroidParty works nice on my tablet 2011/10/9 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at I'll second using the rjdj app on iPhone, for Android, use PdDroidParty. PdDroidParty on Android looks to be the best mobile Pd dev platform these days. http://mccormick.cx/projects/**PdDroidParty/http://mccormick.cx/projects/PdDroidParty/ .hc On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Eldad Tsabary wrote: Hello Does anyone here have experience with getting PD to work on iPhone or Android (using libpd or something else?) Thanks Eldad __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list --**--** As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on iPhone
Development in libpd is going strong, although still in alpha. The iOS layer is working great, although both the audio and message callback layers are currently going through an overhaul to be more flexible. For an example of an app using it in the app store, check out NodeBeat by Seth Sandler and Justin Windle (http://nodebeat.com/) Cheers, Rich On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Eldad Tsabary tazberry_d...@yahoo.cawrote: Hello Does anyone here have experience with getting PD to work on iPhone or Android (using libpd or something else?) Thanks Eldad ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on iPhone
Thanks all Any quick guidelines on how to get it done with RJDJ? Happy thanks giving Eldad On 2011-10-09, at 1:01 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I'll second using the rjdj app on iPhone, for Android, use PdDroidParty. PdDroidParty on Android looks to be the best mobile Pd dev platform these days. http://mccormick.cx/projects/PdDroidParty/ .hc On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Eldad Tsabary wrote: Hello Does anyone here have experience with getting PD to work on iPhone or Android (using libpd or something else?) Thanks Eldad ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on Iphone/Palm, etc.
ydegoyon wrote: but nobody noticed ? RJDJ can be downloaded for the modest price of 2 euros err, where's the bug, you or me? sorry if that sounded agressive, it's perfectly allright to ask 2 euros to some people who put 200 euros in a b telephone. with that money, you can also pay a shelter for a month to an indian kid from the street. the real problem is that the Open Moko doesn't have a camera ! ( anyway i wouldn't buy any of this devices, i don't like pictures ) alvida! sevy sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on Iphone/Palm, etc.
Hi Yves, We got you :) its not 2 $, its 2.99, which is about 3 $. Old capitalist trick. Anyhow, the application itself is free, what we do is charge for scenes. Thats why there is RJDJ-single, which can be perfectly be used by pd patchers. Our website has the instructions on how to create and upload new scenes. We plan to release more scenes, free ones and cheap ones, the creator can decide, basically. Good news is that RJDJ also works on the 2nd generation ipod touch, which makes it pretty accessible for about everyone. You will have to buy a headset with integrated microphone and then you can start patching. The price of these devices is about 250 Euros, which I think is not that expensive. Günter PS I also had an idea how to save indian kids, everytime we go out we could just drink one beer less, and spare that money for indian kids instead of cutting down on our creative possibilities. On Oct 18, 2008, at 1:29 PM, ydegoyon wrote: ydegoyon wrote: but nobody noticed ? RJDJ can be downloaded for the modest price of 2 euros err, where's the bug, you or me? sorry if that sounded agressive, it's perfectly allright to ask 2 euros to some people who put 200 euros in a b telephone. with that money, you can also pay a shelter for a month to an indian kid from the street. the real problem is that the Open Moko doesn't have a camera ! ( anyway i wouldn't buy any of this devices, i don't like pictures ) alvida! sevy sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on Iphone/Palm, etc.
ydegoyon wrote: namaste, i'm a semi-vegan anarchist environmentalist, the sort of guy who shares opinions unasked for. man you made a step, we will not deny it, but anarchy is not about eating meat or not it's about questioning structures and controls, realistically, it's also about finding a place for yourself somewhere between and around the frameworks of said structures and controls, where you can have room to live your life in a way that makes sense within the contemporary historical context, without needing to completely withdraw from society (the hippies already tried that in the 70s, and it didn't work). d -- damian stewart | skype: damiansnz | [EMAIL PROTECTED] frey | live art with machines | http://www.frey.co.nz ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] PD on Iphone/Palm, etc.
Hello from real world, As several of you might already know, now it is official. Check this out: http://rjdj.me A fully functional Pd just hit the iphone appstore, and you can create Pd patches with the system and run them on the iPhone. I really appreciate that some of you, developpers, like to invent PD devs for such mobile devices. Great developpements. Big fun. But you spend a lot of time for those games for rich, for an elite. In many countries, just the price of an Iphone and accessories is enough to feed one starving family FOR A YEAR ! [For the first time ever, this year, this evening, about 850 million humans will go to bed hungry, like yesterday, and may be tomorrow]. When some of our best PD brains are working (with FLOSS) for few riches only, it is a mystery for me. BUT some PD-developpements for handheld devices have been done to run PD on small CPUs: has someone succeeded in installing PD on an OLPC XO ? I have no competency to do it, but if some people in france want to try, we have some XO available in the hackerspace tmp/lab in Vitry. Contact OLPC-france. JN ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on Iphone/Palm, etc.
Jean-Noël Montagné wrote: I really appreciate that some of you, developpers, like to invent PD devs for such mobile devices. Great developpements. Big fun. But you spend a lot of time for those games for rich, for an elite. In many countries, just the price of an Iphone and accessories is enough to feed one starving family FOR A YEAR ! you're preaching to the converted on this one. the second or third day i was here i got very drunk with the CEO and berated him over exactly this. and yet, we do it anyway. if i wasn't doing this, someone else would be. and at least in this case i get to play the dirty anarchist, getting drunk with the CEO and reminding him that he lives in a super-rich country and that life for most people on the world sucks, that the things he is basing his career on (the things *all* of us are basing our careers on) are non-recyclable non-renewable and directly contributing to the loss of habitat, environment, biodiversity, human rights, and clean water in places as far away as China and South America. there's arguments to be said that making music is a way around this - making music, if it emotionally affects people, is a way of wresting their consciousnesses away from a work-consume-sleep-die lifecycle and toward something more real. my work on RjDj will potentially lead to more situations where i can meet more people face to face, and i'm a semi-vegan anarchist environmentalist, the sort of guy who shares opinions unasked for. so. d -- damian stewart | skype: damiansnz | [EMAIL PROTECTED] frey | live art with machines | http://www.frey.co.nz ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on Iphone/Palm, etc.
hi JN, I appreciate this sentiment. ( I've been a little involved with the RJDJ project as well, though I don't own an iPhone and even my iPod mini is many generations old now, but still does its job well). In some senses, the wealth argument is a slippery slope - and any of us with a laptop or even a decent desktop are much more wealthy than the majority of the world. But rather than debate this, I'd like to point out the positives: - The RJDJ project has actually injected quite a bit of new energy into making Pure Pd abstractions. Pure Pd is useful to everybody, and probably very useful to a project to get Pd onto OLPC. - Also, RJDJ ultimately want to work with other suitable mobile devices as well. I am interested in the PD on OLPC idea, and I'm in France (though I'm busy this month) - so I'll contact you and see if I could help. (although my linux skills are not as deep as many, so if more capable people can contribute first that's great) Nicholas Mariette --- http://soundsorange.net On Oct 17, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Jean-Noël Montagné wrote: Hello from real world, As several of you might already know, now it is official. Check this out: http://rjdj.me A fully functional Pd just hit the iphone appstore, and you can create Pd patches with the system and run them on the iPhone. I really appreciate that some of you, developpers, like to invent PD devs for such mobile devices. Great developpements. Big fun. But you spend a lot of time for those games for rich, for an elite. In many countries, just the price of an Iphone and accessories is enough to feed one starving family FOR A YEAR ! [For the first time ever, this year, this evening, about 850 million humans will go to bed hungry, like yesterday, and may be tomorrow]. When some of our best PD brains are working (with FLOSS) for few riches only, it is a mystery for me. BUT some PD-developpements for handheld devices have been done to run PD on small CPUs: has someone succeeded in installing PD on an OLPC XO ? I have no competency to do it, but if some people in france want to try, we have some XO available in the hackerspace tmp/lab in Vitry. Contact OLPC-france. JN ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on Iphone/Palm, etc.
namaste, i'm a semi-vegan anarchist environmentalist, the sort of guy who shares opinions unasked for. man you made a step, we will not deny it, but anarchy is not about eating meat or not it's about questioning structures and controls, the first of this being a 'curator', well, curators fuck offf!! i can also paste to you a few words from the old days : If there was no government, wouldn't there be chaos? Everybody running around, setting petrol bombs off? And if there was no police force, tell me what you'd do If thirty thousand rioters came running after you? And who would clean the sewers? Who'd mend my television? Wouldn't people lay about without some supervision? Who'd drive the fire engines? Who'd fix my video? If there were no prisons, well, where would robbers go? so what if i'd tell you to f*** off anarchy is no joke, it's a serious activity best, sevy so. d ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD on Iphone/Palm, etc.
but nobody noticed ? RJDJ can be downloaded for the modest price of 2 euros err, where's the bug, you or me? sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
