Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing

2010-01-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
From: Mathieu Bouchard matju at artengine.ca Subject: Re: Question about object categorizing Newsgroups: gmane.comp.multimedia.puredata.general Date: 2009-09-26 03:57:19 GMT (14 weeks, 5 days, 14 hours and 24 minutes ago) [...] So basically the category system has more to do with social factors

Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing

2009-10-01 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, András Murányi wrote: There is still some good in this world as categories 1.) are an optional startup plugin (and believe me there will be more startup plugins to piss you off, that's why they are optional) yeah, exactly :) it would definitely solve some social

Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing

2009-09-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009, PSPunch wrote: If by any chance someone can explain the historical background, I think I and others as well would be interested in learning.. The historical background of... what? The classification used in Pd itself? _ _ __ ___ _ _

Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing

2009-09-26 Thread João Pais
Just move the relevant objects to whatever category you think they belong, or reorganize the entire thing and change the categories. Then put it in the patch tracker on sourceforge. I've attached a reformatted version of the intro patch, if you want to use it as a template. I added

Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing

2009-09-26 Thread João Pais
No, I know exactly what the relevancy is, I just don't enjoy it. First, a person tells himself/herself «it would be better if there were categories». Then the person looks for characteristic features of the elements to be categorised, so that categories can be made. Those features have to be

Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing

2009-09-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, João Pais wrote: Those features have to be easy to think about. Turns out that one of the easiest features to think about in this case, are things like: where you first learned the basic concept of each object class. yes, that's a very good example of category-building. if

Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing

2009-09-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, PSPunch wrote: Perhaps I should have made clear that I was not sure how [print~] and [samphold~] would even be considered to go under filters. No, no, you were clear enough, I just meant that those aren't the only things that don't fit where they've been put, and that

Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing

2009-09-26 Thread András Murányi
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, João Pais wrote: Those features have to be easy to think about. Turns out that one of the easiest features to think about in this case, are things like: where you first learned the basic concept

[PD] Question about object categorizing

2009-09-25 Thread PSPunch
Hi all, A quick question regarding, pd/doc/5.reference/intro-help.pd I was wondering why [print~] and [samphold~] are under AUDIO FILTERS. Are they meant to belong there? -- David Shimamoto ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing

2009-09-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, PSPunch wrote: Hi all, A quick question regarding, pd/doc/5.reference/intro-help.pd I was wondering why [print~] and [samphold~] are under AUDIO FILTERS. Are they meant to belong there? They are meant to remind everybody that categories don't necessarily make any sense.

Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing

2009-09-25 Thread PSPunch
Hi Mathieu, Hi all, A quick question regarding, pd/doc/5.reference/intro-help.pd I was wondering why [print~] and [samphold~] are under AUDIO FILTERS. Are they meant to belong there? They are meant to remind everybody that categories don't necessarily make any sense. I'd also ask what's

Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing

2009-09-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 9/26/09, PSPunch sh...@pspunch.com wrote: From: PSPunch sh...@pspunch.com Subject: Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing To: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Cc: PD list pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 1:55 AM Hi Mathieu, Hi all, A quick

Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing

2009-09-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, PSPunch wrote: Hi Mathieu, I'd also ask what's the logic in not putting all the AUDIO FILTERS object classes in the AUDIO MATH section, and/or in not putting all the AUDIO MATH classes in the AUDIO FILTERS section. But I don't expect an answer at all. May I take it that

Re: [PD] Question about object categorizing

2009-09-25 Thread PSPunch
Hi Mathieu, Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I fully understand what you find unpleasant with categorization in general. Perhaps I should have made clear that I was not sure how [print~] and [samphold~] would even be considered to go under filters. Following your example, I figure