Re: [PD] Two-dimensional gesture mapping for interactive real-time electronic music instruments
Hi Thomas, I've finally spent enough time reading your thesis to feel comfortable asking a couple questions :) First though, I have to say that the extent of what you accomplished in your implementation is very impressive. It looks like you went the way. I am not sure about what you are using for SMS data - or how you transform the data you are working with based on the feature map you have calculated. Could you help me understand this? cheers, Rich On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Thomas Grill wrote: > Hi Luigi, hi Jack, > thanks for your kind words. > I'm not yet performing with the instrument since at the moment it's > more a worked-out concept with a proof-of-concept implementation. For > that it's working pretty well, but it still has its rough edges. As > stated in the conclusion of the thesis i need to develop my skills as > well as the actual sensoric devices and gesture and sounds > repertories before i will actually climb the stage with it. I think > that will take up some more months. > Concerning the patches, i have not yet thought about how to > distribute all that stuff that has piled up during the course of this > work. One of the problems is that more functionality than i would > have liked has had to be realized as (flext-based) externals due to > performance reasons. Given the trouble i'm having with maintaining my > already published stuff i don't think it's a good idea to add more to > it. > The more i think about it, i would rather like to share conceptual > ideas more than actual implementations - also because i think that > such an approach as i took could take on many different forms which > are all interesting and worth exploring. Hence, it's not so much > about the patches... the top two levels are printed in the thesis > anyway. > > gr~~~ > > > Am 24.11.2008 um 11:48 schrieb Luigi: > > > > > Am 24.11.2008 um 01:51 schrieb Jack: > > > >> It seems very impressive. > >> Is there somewhere a place to see this interface working ? (have you > >> planned to show it in a festival or something else). I will be glad > >> to test it. > >> Is it possible to download your patch somewhere ? > >> ++ > >> > > > > Yes i agree, very impressing, that is exactly what i am missing in my > > experiments with the wii-controller... > > > > Would be great if you share some patches > > > > Luigi > > > > > > > >> Jack > >> > >> > >> Le 23 nov. 08 à 23:32, Thomas Grill a écrit : > >> > >>> Hey all, > >>> in case someone is interested here's my recently finished master > >>> thesis: > >>> http://g.org/pub/grill-2008-master-2d_gesture_mapping.pdf > >>> or in very compact form, as a presentation poster: > >>> http://g.org/pub/grill-2008-master-poster.pdf > >>> > >>> This thesis describes a novel, fairly general and (for the player) > >>> non-technical interface concept for software-based music > >>> instruments. > >>> The actual proof-of-concept instrument has been realized using pd > >>> and > >>> gem (with a number of optimized flext-based external objects to make > >>> it all possible on current hardware). > >>> > >>> gr~~~ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > >>> listinfo/pd-list > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > >> listinfo/pd-list > >> > > > > > > ___ > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > > listinfo/pd-list > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Two-dimensional gesture mapping for interactive real-time electronic music instruments
Congrats! Any video? That would be nice to see. .hc On Nov 23, 2008, at 7:51 PM, Jack wrote: > It seems very impressive. > Is there somewhere a place to see this interface working ? (have you > planned to show it in a festival or something else). I will be glad > to test it. > Is it possible to download your patch somewhere ? > ++ > > Jack > > > Le 23 nov. 08 à 23:32, Thomas Grill a écrit : > >> Hey all, >> in case someone is interested here's my recently finished master >> thesis: >> http://g.org/pub/grill-2008-master-2d_gesture_mapping.pdf >> or in very compact form, as a presentation poster: >> http://g.org/pub/grill-2008-master-poster.pdf >> >> This thesis describes a novel, fairly general and (for the player) >> non-technical interface concept for software-based music instruments. >> The actual proof-of-concept instrument has been realized using pd and >> gem (with a number of optimized flext-based external objects to make >> it all possible on current hardware). >> >> gr~~~ >> >> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Two-dimensional gesture mapping for interactive real-time electronic music instruments
Hi Luigi, hi Jack, thanks for your kind words. I'm not yet performing with the instrument since at the moment it's more a worked-out concept with a proof-of-concept implementation. For that it's working pretty well, but it still has its rough edges. As stated in the conclusion of the thesis i need to develop my skills as well as the actual sensoric devices and gesture and sounds repertories before i will actually climb the stage with it. I think that will take up some more months. Concerning the patches, i have not yet thought about how to distribute all that stuff that has piled up during the course of this work. One of the problems is that more functionality than i would have liked has had to be realized as (flext-based) externals due to performance reasons. Given the trouble i'm having with maintaining my already published stuff i don't think it's a good idea to add more to it. The more i think about it, i would rather like to share conceptual ideas more than actual implementations - also because i think that such an approach as i took could take on many different forms which are all interesting and worth exploring. Hence, it's not so much about the patches... the top two levels are printed in the thesis anyway. gr~~~ Am 24.11.2008 um 11:48 schrieb Luigi: > > Am 24.11.2008 um 01:51 schrieb Jack: > >> It seems very impressive. >> Is there somewhere a place to see this interface working ? (have you >> planned to show it in a festival or something else). I will be glad >> to test it. >> Is it possible to download your patch somewhere ? >> ++ >> > > Yes i agree, very impressing, that is exactly what i am missing in my > experiments with the wii-controller... > > Would be great if you share some patches > > Luigi > > > >> Jack >> >> >> Le 23 nov. 08 à 23:32, Thomas Grill a écrit : >> >>> Hey all, >>> in case someone is interested here's my recently finished master >>> thesis: >>> http://g.org/pub/grill-2008-master-2d_gesture_mapping.pdf >>> or in very compact form, as a presentation poster: >>> http://g.org/pub/grill-2008-master-poster.pdf >>> >>> This thesis describes a novel, fairly general and (for the player) >>> non-technical interface concept for software-based music >>> instruments. >>> The actual proof-of-concept instrument has been realized using pd >>> and >>> gem (with a number of optimized flext-based external objects to make >>> it all possible on current hardware). >>> >>> gr~~~ >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>> listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list >> > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Two-dimensional gesture mapping for interactive real-time electronic music instruments
Am 24.11.2008 um 01:51 schrieb Jack: > It seems very impressive. > Is there somewhere a place to see this interface working ? (have you > planned to show it in a festival or something else). I will be glad > to test it. > Is it possible to download your patch somewhere ? > ++ > Yes i agree, very impressing, that is exactly what i am missing in my experiments with the wii-controller... Would be great if you share some patches Luigi > Jack > > > Le 23 nov. 08 à 23:32, Thomas Grill a écrit : > >> Hey all, >> in case someone is interested here's my recently finished master >> thesis: >> http://g.org/pub/grill-2008-master-2d_gesture_mapping.pdf >> or in very compact form, as a presentation poster: >> http://g.org/pub/grill-2008-master-poster.pdf >> >> This thesis describes a novel, fairly general and (for the player) >> non-technical interface concept for software-based music instruments. >> The actual proof-of-concept instrument has been realized using pd and >> gem (with a number of optimized flext-based external objects to make >> it all possible on current hardware). >> >> gr~~~ >> >> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Two-dimensional gesture mapping for interactive real-time electronic music instruments
It seems very impressive. Is there somewhere a place to see this interface working ? (have you planned to show it in a festival or something else). I will be glad to test it. Is it possible to download your patch somewhere ? ++ Jack Le 23 nov. 08 à 23:32, Thomas Grill a écrit : > Hey all, > in case someone is interested here's my recently finished master > thesis: > http://g.org/pub/grill-2008-master-2d_gesture_mapping.pdf > or in very compact form, as a presentation poster: > http://g.org/pub/grill-2008-master-poster.pdf > > This thesis describes a novel, fairly general and (for the player) > non-technical interface concept for software-based music instruments. > The actual proof-of-concept instrument has been realized using pd and > gem (with a number of optimized flext-based external objects to make > it all possible on current hardware). > > gr~~~ > > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Two-dimensional gesture mapping for interactive real-time electronic music instruments
Hey all, in case someone is interested here's my recently finished master thesis: http://g.org/pub/grill-2008-master-2d_gesture_mapping.pdf or in very compact form, as a presentation poster: http://g.org/pub/grill-2008-master-poster.pdf This thesis describes a novel, fairly general and (for the player) non-technical interface concept for software-based music instruments. The actual proof-of-concept instrument has been realized using pd and gem (with a number of optimized flext-based external objects to make it all possible on current hardware). gr~~~ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list