Re: [PD] age old multichannel sound card question...

2013-09-14 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Am 13.09.2013 um 01:34 schrieb peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com:
  I think the RME USB and firewire interfaces don't work on linux
 unfortunately. Or at least that's what I was told.

 I guess that should read: the RME interfaces which have both: USB AND FW
 ports on the same device.

 While the FireWire doesn't seem to be working on those devices with ffado
 yet, the devices can be set to the USB Class Complinant (CC) mode. A bug in
 alsa prevented USB2 Class Compliant interfaces to work at all. That has
 been fixed since.

 [snip]

 And for the record:
 Fireface 400 and Fireface 800 are listed as Full Support on the ffado page:
 http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/listpage=3


That's strange. I've heard all ppl using those devices with ffado happy
about it.
If you look at the discussions on the ffado list there's not much, but
apparently everything should work fine.

http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/72
http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/73

what happens when you launch the ffado-mixer, does the software find the
device and the routing mixer appears?
have you compiled the latest ffado from git or svn?

maybe can you post the output of ffado-diag?

by the way, I use a focusrite saffirePro40 and I'm very happy with it. It's
not a cheap one, but the output and input preamp quality is great. U'll
need latest ffado 2.1 (lots of bug fixes) and jackd2, + a realtime kernel
(low latency works for me by now, but sometimes gives me the chills, so im
trying to compile my own rt kernel for mint 15, based on ubuntu 13.04)

sorry if you mentioned this already, I arrived on this post a bit late..

cheers,
M
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Re: [PD] age old multichannel sound card question...

2013-09-12 Thread Marian Weger

Am 12.09.13 00:13, schrieb Jaime E Oliver:

Do the latest RME cards (fire face UCX, UC, UFX) work under Linux? alsa/ffado?
Does anyone use the fireface 800 successfully with ffado?


hi,

The new firefaces (ufx, ucx) seem to be running perfectly well via usb2 
under linux, with class compliant mode, without drivers.

But i have not tested it personally.

The fireface 400 and 800 work fine with ffado. I use them a lot under 
all operating systems.
ffado even provides full access to the dsp mixer (totalmix) and settings 
(phantom power, ...), with one missing feature: at the moment you can 
not save these settings. Need to set them new by hand, every time you 
start ffado, as it always resets these values to default.


cheers,
marian




If anyone can recommend good quality for a cheaper price that'd be great too..

J



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Re: [PD] age old multichannel sound card question...

2013-09-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2013-09-12 08:36, Marian Weger wrote:
 The new firefaces (ufx, ucx) seem to be running perfectly well via
 usb2 under linux, with class compliant mode, without drivers.

not really true, since class compliant mode does require a driver as
well...only all modern OSs already ship one, so the manfacturers claim
that it is driver free (while it is really only driver installation
free).

 But i have not tested it personally.

i tested the UCX in class-compliant mode and i only managed to get 8
channels in and 8 channels out (while it really should have 18 ins and
18 outs).
afair, those were the analog IOs.
and virtually no controls (like pre-amps and the like)

but definitely promising


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Re: [PD] age old multichannel sound card question...

2013-09-12 Thread Py Fave
echo audiofire 12 works nicely here.

using ffado


2013/9/12 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at

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 On 2013-09-12 08:36, Marian Weger wrote:
  The new firefaces (ufx, ucx) seem to be running perfectly well via
  usb2 under linux, with class compliant mode, without drivers.

 not really true, since class compliant mode does require a driver as
 well...only all modern OSs already ship one, so the manfacturers claim
 that it is driver free (while it is really only driver installation
 free).

  But i have not tested it personally.

 i tested the UCX in class-compliant mode and i only managed to get 8
 channels in and 8 channels out (while it really should have 18 ins and
 18 outs).
 afair, those were the analog IOs.
 and virtually no controls (like pre-amps and the like)

 but definitely promising


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Re: [PD] age old multichannel sound card question...

2013-09-12 Thread Max

Am 12.09.2013 um 15:36 schrieb Marian Weger m...@marianweger.com:

 Am 12.09.13 00:13, schrieb Jaime E Oliver:
 Do the latest RME cards (fire face UCX, UC, UFX) work under Linux? 
 alsa/ffado?
 Does anyone use the fireface 800 successfully with ffado?
 
 hi,
 
 The new firefaces (ufx, ucx) seem to be running perfectly well via usb2 under 
 linux, with class compliant mode, without drivers.
 But i have not tested it personally.


I have the UCX running in CC mode, Alsamixer has only one control, the master 
volume.

You need a Kernel with at least 3.8 to get audio over USB2 devices at all 
because of some bug in ALSA.
The fix of the alsa /sound/usb/mixer.c is in kernel 3.8 which i have on the 
system.
http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2013-January/058998.html

however the current kernel has some issues wich causes horrible crackles (I 
tried 44100 and 48000 Hz, they both give me different kind of crackles).

m.


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Re: [PD] age old multichannel sound card question...

2013-09-12 Thread batinste
Hi

When i need a lot of in/outs, i use my second-hand m-audio profire
lightbridge : 4 ADAT in, 4 ADAT out, 2 jack out, stereo headphones out,
midi in/out. Works ok with jack and ffado.


On 12/09/2013 00:13, Jaime E Oliver wrote:
 Hi Everyone, 

 Can anyone recommend a multichannel sound card that works well under linux. 
 Hoping to have 8 in/out + adat if possible.

 Do the latest RME cards (fire face UCX, UC, UFX) work under Linux? alsa/ffado?
 Does anyone use the fireface 800 successfully with ffado?

 If anyone can recommend good quality for a cheaper price that'd be great too..

 J



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Re: [PD] age old multichannel sound card question...

2013-09-12 Thread Jaime E Oliver
It actually sounds that it is partially working and might work better in the 
near futureā€¦ should we trust that since their devices worked in the past, they 
will work in the future?

J


On Sep 12, 2013, at 12:34 PM, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 I think the RME USB and firewire interfaces don't work on linux 
 unfortunately. Or at least that's what I was told. 
 
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 On 11 September 2013 23:13, Jaime E Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 
 Can anyone recommend a multichannel sound card that works well under linux. 
 Hoping to have 8 in/out + adat if possible.
 
 Do the latest RME cards (fire face UCX, UC, UFX) work under Linux? alsa/ffado?
 Does anyone use the fireface 800 successfully with ffado?
 
 If anyone can recommend good quality for a cheaper price that'd be great too..
 
 J
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] age old multichannel sound card question...

2013-09-12 Thread peiman khosravi
Hi,

I think the RME USB and firewire interfaces don't work on linux
unfortunately. Or at least that's what I was told.

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On 11 September 2013 23:13, Jaime E Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 Can anyone recommend a multichannel sound card that works well under
 linux. Hoping to have 8 in/out + adat if possible.

 Do the latest RME cards (fire face UCX, UC, UFX) work under Linux?
 alsa/ffado?
 Does anyone use the fireface 800 successfully with ffado?

 If anyone can recommend good quality for a cheaper price that'd be great
 too..

 J



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Re: [PD] age old multichannel sound card question...

2013-09-12 Thread Max
Am 13.09.2013 um 01:34 schrieb peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com:
 I think the RME USB and firewire interfaces don't work on linux 
 unfortunately. Or at least that's what I was told. 

I guess that should read: the RME interfaces which have both: USB AND FW ports 
on the same device.

While the FireWire doesn't seem to be working on those devices with ffado yet, 
the devices can be set to the USB Class Complinant (CC) mode. A bug in alsa 
prevented USB2 Class Compliant interfaces to work at all. That has been fixed 
since.

It sucks a lot that you can't use all the fancy effects on the Fireface when 
using it in class compliant mode. Also only one lonely control (the master 
volume) gets exposed in ALSA mixer. I am not sure if this is a limitation of 
the USB Audio Class definition or laziness on the behalf or RME. I also don't 
understand why RME allows you to control the TotalMix software via OSC - it 
would make much more sense if one could send the OSC messages directly to the 
device, enabling all the functions also in CC mode.

The (current) OSC implementation of TotalMix is awkward to say the least. 
http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=18177

I would not bother any more with FireWire, since this interface is already dead 
or will be dead soon. (That is if you are buying new hardware, computer or 
soundcard, today.)

And for the record:
Fireface 400 and Fireface 800 are listed as Full Support on the ffado page:
http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/listpage=3




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[PD] age old multichannel sound card question...

2013-09-11 Thread Jaime E Oliver
Hi Everyone, 

Can anyone recommend a multichannel sound card that works well under linux. 
Hoping to have 8 in/out + adat if possible.

Do the latest RME cards (fire face UCX, UC, UFX) work under Linux? alsa/ffado?
Does anyone use the fireface 800 successfully with ffado?

If anyone can recommend good quality for a cheaper price that'd be great too..

J



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