Re: [PD] how pd refers to abstractions under OS X - example of adsr in vanilla version

2008-09-21 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff
Hi

i ran into  similar situations in the past and use the following  
procedure now.
Which can easily adapted if  you want to copy a complicated (meaning:  
consinsting of many different abstractions, that you got from  
collections, built yourself or whatever).

So in your example i would open the example patch (the main-patch)  
and as you did save to a different location.

Then i would create a folder next to the target location and call it  
maybe abs or lib

Then i would add a declare - statement including the new folders (i  
noticed that on OSX you need always the Full path whereas on XP and  
linux the relative path is sufficient)

And the open all the abstractions contained in the main original path  
and save the with the same names in the newly created folders

That way you can easily copy projects from one computer to another...
I use several folders where i collect the abstractions i use.

For example i dont want to have pd look into all the abstraction  
folders included in pd-extended. It was mentioned before that this  
increases loading time.

So i just copy the one or two abstractions i use from maybe list- 
abs or mapping and thats it

Maybe that can help you

Does someone recommend a different procedure ??

All the Best

Luigi



On Sep 20, 2008, at 7:32 PM, Lao Yu wrote:

 Steffen,

 On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Steffen Juul wrote:

 How do you open it? Are you opening it from the help browser?

 from the open dialog. when I invoke an abstraction I create a new
 object and give it the name of the abstraction. in the case of
 output~ that I mention to Claude the abstraction that I create in
 my patch wouldn't look like the one in the figs folder which I want
 to use.

 Hmmm

 Best
 Jurgen

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[PD] how pd refers to abstractions under OS X - example of adsr in vanilla version

2008-09-20 Thread Lao Yu
Hi,

I copied all of the examples out of the application package into  
another disk. everything is working fine. However when I was fiddling  
around I realized that pd would only open abstractions if they are  
exactly inside the folder that they were. For instance, the patch / 
3.audio.examples/D02.adsr.pd would not work if it is opened from a  
different folder.
I do not understand that. I'm not talking about an experimental patch  
that has stuff changed, the same patch just saved as doesn't work.

I'd appreciate any advice. I tried to add the folder inside the  
application package to the startup path, but for some reasons that I  
don't understand the configuration is not updated (and I don't know  
if that would solve the problem in the first place).

Best
Jurgen



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Re: [PD] how pd refers to abstractions under OS X - example of adsr in vanilla version

2008-09-20 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Lao Yu wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I copied all of the examples out of the application package into  
 another disk. everything is working fine. However when I was fiddling
 around I realized that pd would only open abstractions if they are  
 exactly inside the folder that they were. For instance, the patch / 
 3.audio.examples/D02.adsr.pd would not work if it is opened from a  
 different folder.

Did you copy all the files?  Or just that one file?

 I do not understand that. I'm not talking about an experimental patch  
 that has stuff changed, the same patch just saved as doesn't work.

A Pd program in general consists of multiple files - the top level 
patch, the abstractions used by it (and the ones used by them, etc) 
and sometimes some externals too.  If you save just one of those files 
somewhere else, how is Pd supposed to know where the other files are 
when you load it again?

Quick solution: keep all files belonging to one program in the same folder.

Other solution: add the folders containing the pieces of your program to 
Pd's -path list.

 I'd appreciate any advice. I tried to add the folder inside the  
 application package to the startup path, but for some reasons that I  
 don't understand the configuration is not updated (and I don't know  
 if that would solve the problem in the first place).

Did you restart Pd after changing the settings?

 Best
 Jurgen


Claude
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http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org

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Re: [PD] how pd refers to abstractions under OS X - example of adsr in vanilla version

2008-09-20 Thread Steffen Juul
On Sat, September 20, 2008 4:02 pm, Lao Yu wrote:

 exactly inside the folder that they were. For instance, the patch /
 3.audio.examples/D02.adsr.pd would not work if it is opened from a
 different folder.

How do you open it? Are you opening it from the help browser?


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Re: [PD] how pd refers to abstractions under OS X - example of adsr in vanilla version

2008-09-20 Thread Lao Yu
Steffen,

On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Steffen Juul wrote:

 How do you open it? Are you opening it from the help browser?

from the open dialog. when I invoke an abstraction I create a new  
object and give it the name of the abstraction. in the case of  
output~ that I mention to Claude the abstraction that I create in  
my patch wouldn't look like the one in the figs folder which I want  
to use.

Hmmm

Best
Jurgen

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