Re: [PD] microtonal pitch glide using Risset's bell
Andrew Collin, Many thanks you guy's hugely appreciated, problem understood, and just in time too. Much fatherly love, Jb On 17 November 2010 23:17, Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com wrote: Also a valid solution, -- From: cold...@mac.com Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:33:15 -0800 To: jbee...@gmail.com CC: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] microtonal pitch glide using Risset's bell Hi Julian, To make this work you can modify the partial.pd abstraction to receive the frequency message as a signal. e.g. replace this bit: [r frequency] || [* ] | [+ $4] | with this: [r~ frequency] | | [*~ ] | [+~ $4] | then send something like [72, 72.4 15( | [line~] | [mtof~] | [s~ frequency] Does that make sense, dad? congratulations, Collin On Nov 17, 2010, at 2:41 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 10:37:35 + From: J bz jbee...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] microtonal pitch glide using Risset's bell To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: aanlktim8hsjvmfn3ho5rynrtqyx=rz1qylx9g-qsd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear List, I have a basic rip of the Risset Bell from the tutorial patches and I can't seem to figure out how to make the overall pitch glide from one microtone to another from midi number 72 to 72.4 over 15ms, for example? A month old baby and a looming deadline has turned my brain into mush... Patch is attached (it's for an upcoming performance of John Cage's 'Ryoanji'). All good wishes, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] microtonal pitch glide using Risset's bell
Dear List, I have a basic rip of the Risset Bell from the tutorial patches and I can't seem to figure out how to make the overall pitch glide from one microtone to another from midi number 72 to 72.4 over 15ms, for example? A month old baby and a looming deadline has turned my brain into mush... Patch is attached (it's for an upcoming performance of John Cage's 'Ryoanji'). All good wishes, Julian partial_jb.pd Description: Binary data ryoanji.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] microtonal pitch glide using Risset's bell
Hey Jb I've just had a look and fixed if for you. It was one of the classic Pd Gotchas. Basically the frequency you wanted to change (from the outside) was going direct from a recieve to the cool right inlet of a [*] object. Meaning it would require an extra bang or a change in the argument number to take effect. Just swapped the wires into this object round and it works fine. Oh, the [pd line] is just my testing system, running up and down from midi 40 to 100, obviously you'll want to change this to work with your patch. Sorted Andrew Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:50:12 + Subject: Re: [PD] microtonal pitch glide using Risset's bell From: jbee...@gmail.com To: jbtur...@hotmail.com Btw, It's 150ms not 15 - durr. On 17 November 2010 16:34, J bz jbee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andrew, Thanks for weighing in. I tried a couple of variations of that but it doesn't work. Something to do with the sound being triggered from a bank of partials I think. Would really appreciate you (or someone) having a look if you have a minute. Hey Lorenzo, No one said this was going to be easy:) Cheers, Jb On 17 November 2010 10:50, Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com wrote: Okay, I've not had a chance to look at your patch but the typical method is to use [line], or [line~] (which solves some in-continuity) (your target pitch)| [$1 15(|[line~]|(your pitch control) You can make this variable by using something like (target pitch) (glide time) | /| /| /| /[ pack f f ]| [line~] I would also note that 15ms is a very short time for a change in pitch or volume, you probably won't hear an audio incontinuity(click) because of this slide, but you might well not be able to experience it as a pitch slide if it's under around 30ms. Andrew Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 10:37:35 + From: jbee...@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] microtonal pitch glide using Risset's bell Dear List, I have a basic rip of the Risset Bell from the tutorial patches and I can't seem to figure out how to make the overall pitch glide from one microtone to another from midi number 72 to 72.4 over 15ms, for example? A month old baby and a looming deadline has turned my brain into mush... Patch is attached (it's for an upcoming performance of John Cage's 'Ryoanji'). All good wishes, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list partial_af.pd Description: Binary data ryoanji_af.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] microtonal pitch glide using Risset's bell
Hi Julian, To make this work you can modify the partial.pd abstraction to receive the frequency message as a signal. e.g. replace this bit: [r frequency] || [* ] | [+ $4] | with this: [r~ frequency] | | [*~ ] | [+~ $4] | then send something like [72, 72.4 15( | [line~] | [mtof~] | [s~ frequency] Does that make sense, dad? congratulations, Collin On Nov 17, 2010, at 2:41 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 10:37:35 + From: J bz jbee...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] microtonal pitch glide using Risset's bell To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: aanlktim8hsjvmfn3ho5rynrtqyx=rz1qylx9g-qsd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear List, I have a basic rip of the Risset Bell from the tutorial patches and I can't seem to figure out how to make the overall pitch glide from one microtone to another from midi number 72 to 72.4 over 15ms, for example? A month old baby and a looming deadline has turned my brain into mush... Patch is attached (it's for an upcoming performance of John Cage's 'Ryoanji'). All good wishes, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] microtonal pitch glide using Risset's bell
Also a valid solution, From: cold...@mac.com Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:33:15 -0800 To: jbee...@gmail.com CC: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] microtonal pitch glide using Risset's bell Hi Julian, To make this work you can modify the partial.pd abstraction to receive the frequency message as a signal. e.g. replace this bit: [r frequency]||[* ] |[+ $4]| with this: [r~ frequency]| |[*~ ] |[+~ $4]| then send something like [72, 72.4 15(|[line~]|[mtof~]|[s~ frequency] Does that make sense, dad? congratulations,Collin On Nov 17, 2010, at 2:41 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 10:37:35 + From: J bz jbee...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] microtonal pitch glide using Risset's bell To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: aanlktim8hsjvmfn3ho5rynrtqyx=rz1qylx9g-qsd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear List, I have a basic rip of the Risset Bell from the tutorial patches and I can't seem to figure out how to make the overall pitch glide from one microtone to another from midi number 72 to 72.4 over 15ms, for example? A month old baby and a looming deadline has turned my brain into mush... Patch is attached (it's for an upcoming performance of John Cage's 'Ryoanji'). All good wishes, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
