Re: [PD] problem with pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-09-15 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:09 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, precisely, there are _too_ many discussions on this topic, and i don't know the actual state of it... subsidiary question : do i neeed pd-extended ( from which version on ? ) to use namespaces and

Re: [PD] problem with pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-09-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 15, 2009, at 8:24 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:09 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, precisely, there are _too_ many discussions on this topic, and i don't know the actual state of it... subsidiary question : do i neeed

Re: [PD] problem with pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-09-14 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
ola, precisely, there are _too_ many discussions on this topic, and i don't know the actual state of it... subsidiary question : do i neeed pd-extended ( from which version on ? ) to use namespaces and inspect the mapping library ? will pd-extended crush my dev version living in /usr/local/pd

Re: [PD] problem with pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-09-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:09 AM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, precisely, there are _too_ many discussions on this topic, and i don't know the actual state of it... subsidiary question : do i neeed pd-extended ( from which version on ? ) to use namespaces and inspect the mapping library ?

Re: [PD] problem with pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-09-13 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Yup, we are aware. Originally that stuff was handled by the hexloader for special characters, which had serious bugs. I probably missed something important. What happened to the hexloader? Second that. I would love to hear more about the hexloader. Is this a part of the regular

Re: [PD] problem with pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-09-13 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
very good subject . in fact, i would add : and what are the differences between a pd vanilla + externals and pd-extended ? it's not listed ni trced anywhere? and which libs became objects, or objects became libs? Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Yup, we are aware. Originally that stuff was handled

Re: [PD] problem with pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-09-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
There is lots of discussion in the archives on these topics. Here's a summary: - building as one-class-per-file gives us some namespace functionality to deal with nameclashes - pd-extended aims to use a single format for all libraries - the nightly build of Pd-vanilla + externals uses

Re: [PD] problem with pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-09-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Second that. I would love to hear more about the hexloader. Is this a part of the regular distribution or only pd-extended? Also, why is zexy not built as a lib rather than being a collection of files? Does it have lower memory footprint this way?

Re: [PD] problem with pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-09-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yup, we are aware. Originally that stuff was handled by the hexloader for special characters, which had serious bugs. I think there are some workarounds on the list, there was a fair amount of discussion and bug reports. I never use those so I don't know much about it. .hc On Sep 11,

Re: [PD] problem with pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-09-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yup, we are aware. Originally that stuff was handled by the hexloader for special characters, which had serious bugs. I probably missed something important. What happened to the hexloader? _ _ __ ___ _ _

[PD] problem with pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-09-11 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Hans (and others), Not sure if you were aware of this but it appears that in 0.41.4 zexy's ~ ~ ||~ are all messed up. Namely, their names have been replaced by hex values of the ascii characters: 0x3c0x7efor ~ 0x3e0x7efor ~ 0x7c0x7c0x7efor ||~ Any ideas on how

Re: [PD] problem with pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-09-11 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
In addition, it appears there are other objects that are messed up: 0x2e (scalar multiplication) Reports: load_object: Symbol 0x2e_setup not found (fails to load) 0x260x260x7e (~) This one loads but still reports: load_object: Symbol 0x260x260x7e_setup not found The ~,

Re: [PD] problem with pd-extended 0.41.4

2009-09-11 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
It appears when compiling zexy from pd-extended svn source (0.41.4) the resulting zexy.pd_linux fixes problems that are apparent when zexy is compiled into separate objects (as is the case in /usr/lib/pd/extra/zexy/ folder that is a part of the pd-extended linux package). Ico