Re: [PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:24:23PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: - a folder with pd patches named after file extensions, wav.pd, txt.pd, ogg.pd, etc. The contents of the patch would be paster at the cursor position when you drag-n-drop a file of that type onto the canvas. Really dig this idea! Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse
Luke Iannini wrote: On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 4:42 AM, volker böhm wrote: marius schebella a écrit : ... [openpanel] always goes with a bang input. default pd-auto- completion could directly be taken from the help patch for the object or a list of standard combinations for this object. marius. make an GOP abstraction with a bang and a openpanel. that's really not the same, I want a set of objects created automatically inside the patch, so that I can connect, drag or reuse them in the patcher window. this could be extended in so many ways. for example autoincrementing object arguments when you use a special duplicate command. marius. don't know if anyone here wants to hear about it, but this is exactly what the clippings folder in maxmsp is used for. the user can save little (or big) code snippets there as regular patch files. then you can access the patches through a context menu and paste the code snippets into any new patches you are working on. ok, no key-shortcuts yet, but those could be added easily i suppose. very handy feature in my opinion. volker. Yo, just for the sake of discussion, the [templater] object I released last month is one implementation of this snippets idea. See here: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-12/066854.html (also, some of the stuff being requested like canvas object counts etc. can be found in IOhannes's iemguts). Best Luke Hi Luke, I did not read the pd list during the last 3 months, sorry. but that is what I was looking for! this really gives a lot of opportunities. which leads me to more questions: Is there a way to tell, which objects (by object count) are selected in a patch? and a way to query the content of an object by object count? and can I select (mark blue) an object in the patch by object count? for the snipplets, I think, if you add a snipplet to your canvas, it should be selected by default, so that you can easily undo the paste. and I also like the idea of cycling through a set of snipplets with the same key combination. that way you don't have to remember so many keyboard commands. it is more like using a dictionary for text messaging on the phone. one key cycles through all the possible words with a certain letter combination. in Pd it would cycle depending on the object(s) you select, or just some standard clippings. marius. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse
On Jan 6, 2009, at 2:01 AM, Steffen Juul wrote: On 05/01/2009, at 20.24, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Basically, the sooner we have the new u_main.tk replacement code finished, the sooner we can start tackling things like this in a rational fashion. Here are some parts that are good modules to work on: - unified preference panel with tabs (like standard pref panes on GNOME, Mac OS X, and Windows) (snip) I though the point was to first restructure u_main.tk, then add futures. As opposed to adding features while restructuring. I think that's how we agreed on it, and I think it makes sense. I'd like to hear what others think. Combining the preference panels into one with tabs is more of a restructuring than a new feature. It wouldn't change the logic of the code at all. .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, marius schebella wrote: Is there a way to tell, which objects (by object count) are selected in a patch? If I sent you an external doing this it's because I believe that it can't be done without an external or modification to pd. and a way to query the content of an object by object count? How would you like it to work in particular? and can I select (mark blue) an object in the patch by object count? First call glist_noselect(canvas) then call glist_select(canvas,o) where o is found in a way very similar to what [objectcount] does. I could write it if you give me some feedback on [objectcount]. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Patrice Colet wrote:
how do you get a specific selected object with using [objectcount]?
You don't, you have to make a new class very similar to [objectcount],
that's all.
#include m_pd.h
#include g_canvas.h
typedef struct {t_object o; t_canvas *c;} t_objectselect;
static t_class *objectselect_class;
t_pd *objectselect_new (void) {
t_objectselect *self = (t_objectselect *)pd_new(objectselect_class);
self-c=canvas_getcurrent();
return (t_pd *)self;
}
void objectselect_float(t_objectselect *self, t_float f) {
glist_noselect(self-c);
int i=0; t_gobj *o = self-c-gl_list;
for (; o; i++, o=o-g_next) if (i==(int)f) break;
if (o) glist_select(self-c,o);
}
void objectselect_setup (void) {
objectselect_class=class_new(gensym(objectselect),
(t_newmethod)objectselect_new,0,sizeof(t_objectselect),0,0);
class_addfloat(objectselect_class,objectselect_float);
}
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[PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse
On Jan 5, 2009, at 4:42 AM, volker böhm wrote: marius schebella a écrit : ... [openpanel] always goes with a bang input. default pd-auto- completion could directly be taken from the help patch for the object or a list of standard combinations for this object. marius. make an GOP abstraction with a bang and a openpanel. that's really not the same, I want a set of objects created automatically inside the patch, so that I can connect, drag or reuse them in the patcher window. this could be extended in so many ways. for example autoincrementing object arguments when you use a special duplicate command. marius. don't know if anyone here wants to hear about it, but this is exactly what the clippings folder in maxmsp is used for. the user can save little (or big) code snippets there as regular patch files. then you can access the patches through a context menu and paste the code snippets into any new patches you are working on. ok, no key-shortcuts yet, but those could be added easily i suppose. very handy feature in my opinion. volker. This is something that I really want to work on, and is one of the reasons why we need to rewrite u_main.tk. u_main.tk is so messy, it is basically impossible to extend without creating bugs. - folder with pd patches named after key commands: ctrl-j.pd, shift- ctrl-7.pd, etc. The contents of the patch would then be pasted at the cursor position when you hit the key. - a folder with pd patches named after file extensions, wav.pd, txt.pd, ogg.pd, etc. The contents of the patch would be paster at the cursor position when you drag-n-drop a file of that type onto the canvas. Basically, the sooner we have the new u_main.tk replacement code finished, the sooner we can start tackling things like this in a rational fashion. Here are some parts that are good modules to work on: - unified preference panel with tabs (like standard pref panes on GNOME, Mac OS X, and Windows) - network connection written in Tcl - flexible key binding code so that people can easily experiment with all these ideas (this is started) - restructure Pd window for cleaner UI and code .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 4:42 AM, volker böhm wrote: marius schebella a écrit : ... [openpanel] always goes with a bang input. default pd-auto- completion could directly be taken from the help patch for the object or a list of standard combinations for this object. marius. make an GOP abstraction with a bang and a openpanel. that's really not the same, I want a set of objects created automatically inside the patch, so that I can connect, drag or reuse them in the patcher window. this could be extended in so many ways. for example autoincrementing object arguments when you use a special duplicate command. marius. don't know if anyone here wants to hear about it, but this is exactly what the clippings folder in maxmsp is used for. the user can save little (or big) code snippets there as regular patch files. then you can access the patches through a context menu and paste the code snippets into any new patches you are working on. ok, no key-shortcuts yet, but those could be added easily i suppose. very handy feature in my opinion. volker. Yo, just for the sake of discussion, the [templater] object I released last month is one implementation of this snippets idea. See here: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-12/066854.html (also, some of the stuff being requested like canvas object counts etc. can be found in IOhannes's iemguts). Best Luke This is something that I really want to work on, and is one of the reasons why we need to rewrite u_main.tk. u_main.tk is so messy, it is basically impossible to extend without creating bugs. - folder with pd patches named after key commands: ctrl-j.pd, shift- ctrl-7.pd, etc. The contents of the patch would then be pasted at the cursor position when you hit the key. - a folder with pd patches named after file extensions, wav.pd, txt.pd, ogg.pd, etc. The contents of the patch would be paster at the cursor position when you drag-n-drop a file of that type onto the canvas. Basically, the sooner we have the new u_main.tk replacement code finished, the sooner we can start tackling things like this in a rational fashion. Here are some parts that are good modules to work on: - unified preference panel with tabs (like standard pref panes on GNOME, Mac OS X, and Windows) - network connection written in Tcl - flexible key binding code so that people can easily experiment with all these ideas (this is started) - restructure Pd window for cleaner UI and code .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse
On 05/01/2009, at 20.24, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Basically, the sooner we have the new u_main.tk replacement code finished, the sooner we can start tackling things like this in a rational fashion. Here are some parts that are good modules to work on: - unified preference panel with tabs (like standard pref panes on GNOME, Mac OS X, and Windows) (snip) I though the point was to first restructure u_main.tk, then add futures. As opposed to adding features while restructuring. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
