Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43

2012-11-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2012-11-26 22:33, András Murányi wrote:
 It's me who maintains it (BTW don't send bugs to the bug tracker as
 the plugin is not part of the distro).

the bug-tracker has nothing todo with a distro (neither Pd-vanilla,
nor Pd-extended)
it's a service of sourceforge used by the pd community to track bugs,
hence i used it (and because the project page didn't mention another
place where i could report it).
if you want bug-reports to go somewhere else, you could add an address
for issues to [1] (and well, yes, i could have used the contact
address...)

fgmasdr
IOhannes


[1] http://puredata.info/downloads/plugins-plugin

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Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43

2012-11-26 Thread Dan Wilcox
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was complaining. I was just wondering if 
there was some mechanism to enable/disable plugins without requiring manually 
adding/deleting the tcl scripts. Yes I know I could step up and make it but 
my plate is already full of doing such things ... :P That being said, perhaps 
my question sparks interest in someone else?

On Nov 24, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 
 On Nov 24, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
 
 On Nov 23, 2012, at 4:28 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:
 
 From: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43
 Date: November 23, 2012 11:46:29 AM CST
 To: pd-list@iem.at
 
 
 On 11/23/2012 06:06 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
 On a related note, is there a way to disable the object drop bar that
 appears in the top of the canvas window when editing. It will be great
 for beginners, but I find it a little annoying when it keeps shifting
 the canvas around.
 
 remove the relevante plugin (i don't know it's name though) from the search 
 path?
 load the disable-plugins plugin and disable the offending plugin?
 
 
 fgamsdr
 IOhannes
 
 Yeah, well duh I could do that. Maybe I'm asking more for a little checkbox 
 so I still have the option of re-enabling it ...
 
 
 Dan Wilcox
 @danomatika
 danomatika.com
 robotcowboy.com
 
 
 Hey Dan,
 
 I wrote that buttonbar to get the idea out there as a proof of concept.  Its 
 not something I use, so I'm not working on it any more.  I'd love to see 
 someone pick it up and turn it into something fully polished.  Want to take 
 it on, Dan?  Basic Tcl is easy once you get over the slightly odd syntax.
 
 .hc


Dan Wilcox
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danomatika.com
robotcowboy.com





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Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43

2012-11-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2012-11-26 16:06, Dan Wilcox wrote:
 Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was complaining. I was just
 wondering if there was some mechanism to enable/disable plugins
 without requiring manually adding/deleting the tcl scripts. Yes I
 know I could step up and make it but my plate is already full of
 doing such things ... :P That being said, perhaps my question
 sparks interest in someone else?

 http://puredata.info/downloads/plugins-plugin

mdfasd
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43

2012-11-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi Dan,
 Was the plugin included in some version of Pd you downloaded, or did you 
install
it yourself?

I think there was a thread about a plugin that would turn plugins on and off, 
but I think
that feature needs to be in the core system.

-Jonathan



 From: Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
Cc: pd-list@iem.at 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43
 

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was complaining. I was just wondering if 
there was some mechanism to enable/disable plugins without requiring manually 
adding/deleting the tcl scripts. Yes I know I could step up and make it but 
my plate is already full of doing such things ... :P That being said, perhaps 
my question sparks interest in someone else?


On Nov 24, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:



On Nov 24, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:

On Nov 23, 2012, at 4:28 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:

From: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at

Subject: Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43

Date: November 23, 2012 11:46:29 AM CST

To: pd-list@iem.at


On 11/23/2012 06:06 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:

On a related note, is there a way to disable the object drop bar that
appears in the top of the canvas window when editing. It will be great
for beginners, but I find it a little annoying when it keeps shifting
the canvas around.

remove the relevante plugin (i don't know it's name though) from the search 
path?
load the disable-plugins plugin and disable the offending plugin?


fgamsdr
IOhannes


Yeah, well duh I could do that. Maybe I'm asking more for a little checkbox 
so I still have the option of re-enabling it ...



Dan Wilcox
@danomatika
danomatika.com
robotcowboy.com


Hey Dan,

I wrote that buttonbar to get the idea out there as a proof of concept.  Its 
not something I use, so I'm not working on it any more.  I'd love to see 
someone pick it up and turn it into something fully polished.  Want to take 
it on, Dan?  Basic Tcl is easy once you get over the slightly odd syntax.


.hc


Dan Wilcox
@danomatika
danomatika.com
robotcowboy.com






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Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43

2012-11-26 Thread Dan Wilcox
I believe it's included with the pd-extended 0.43 beta.

--
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On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

 Hi Dan,
  Was the plugin included in some version of Pd you downloaded, or did you 
 install
 it yourself?
 
 I think there was a thread about a plugin that would turn plugins on and off, 
 but I think
 that feature needs to be in the core system.
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 
 From: Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at 
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43
 
 
 Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was complaining. I was just wondering 
 if there was some mechanism to enable/disable plugins without requiring 
 manually adding/deleting the tcl scripts. Yes I know I could step up and 
 make it but my plate is already full of doing such things ... :P That 
 being said, perhaps my question sparks interest in someone else?
 
 
 On Nov 24, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
 
 
 
 On Nov 24, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
 
 On Nov 23, 2012, at 4:28 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:
 
 From: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
 
 Subject: Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43
 
 Date: November 23, 2012 11:46:29 AM CST
 
 To: pd-list@iem.at
 
 
 On 11/23/2012 06:06 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
 
 On a related note, is there a way to disable the object drop bar that
 appears in the top of the canvas window when editing. It will be great
 for beginners, but I find it a little annoying when it keeps shifting
 the canvas around.
 
 remove the relevante plugin (i don't know it's name though) from the 
 search path?
 load the disable-plugins plugin and disable the offending plugin?
 
 
 fgamsdr
 IOhannes
 
 
 Yeah, well duh I could do that. Maybe I'm asking more for a little checkbox 
 so I still have the option of re-enabling it ...
 
 
 
 Dan Wilcox
 @danomatika
 danomatika.com
 robotcowboy.com
 
 
 Hey Dan,
 
 I wrote that buttonbar to get the idea out there as a proof of concept.  
 Its not something I use, so I'm not working on it any more.  I'd love to 
 see someone pick it up and turn it into something fully polished.  Want to 
 take it on, Dan?  Basic Tcl is easy once you get over the slightly odd 
 syntax.
 
 
 .hc
 
 
 Dan Wilcox
 @danomatika
 danomatika.com
 robotcowboy.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43

2012-11-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

The only plugin included in Pd-extended 0.43 is the search plugin.

.hc

On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:

 I believe it's included with the pd-extended 0.43 beta.
 
 --
 Dan Wilcox
 danomatika.com
 robotcowboy.com
 
 
 On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
 Hi Dan,
  Was the plugin included in some version of Pd you downloaded, or did 
 you install
 it yourself?
 
 I think there was a thread about a plugin that would turn plugins on and 
 off, but I think
 that feature needs to be in the core system.
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 
 From: Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at 
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43
 
 
 Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was complaining. I was just wondering 
 if there was some mechanism to enable/disable plugins without requiring 
 manually adding/deleting the tcl scripts. Yes I know I could step up and 
 make it but my plate is already full of doing such things ... :P That 
 being said, perhaps my question sparks interest in someone else?
 
 
 On Nov 24, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
 
 
 
 On Nov 24, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
 
 On Nov 23, 2012, at 4:28 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:
 
 From: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
 
 Subject: Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43
 
 Date: November 23, 2012 11:46:29 AM CST
 
 To: pd-list@iem.at
 
 
 On 11/23/2012 06:06 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
 
 On a related note, is there a way to disable the object drop bar that
 appears in the top of the canvas window when editing. It will be great
 for beginners, but I find it a little annoying when it keeps shifting
 the canvas around.
 
 remove the relevante plugin (i don't know it's name though) from the 
 search path?
 load the disable-plugins plugin and disable the offending plugin?
 
 
 fgamsdr
 IOhannes
 
 
 Yeah, well duh I could do that. Maybe I'm asking more for a little 
 checkbox so I still have the option of re-enabling it ...
 
 
 
 Dan Wilcox
 @danomatika
 danomatika.com
 robotcowboy.com
 
 
 Hey Dan,
 
 I wrote that buttonbar to get the idea out there as a proof of concept.  
 Its not something I use, so I'm not working on it any more.  I'd love to 
 see someone pick it up and turn it into something fully polished.  Want to 
 take it on, Dan?  Basic Tcl is easy once you get over the slightly odd 
 syntax.
 
 
 .hc
 
 
 Dan Wilcox
 @danomatika
 danomatika.com
 robotcowboy.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43

2012-11-26 Thread Dan Wilcox
Hrm whoops. It must be in my path from a while ago. I do think it should be 
included by default along with the plugin chooser as it would be super useful 
for students  beginners.

--
Dan Wilcox
danomatika.com
robotcowboy.com




On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 
 The only plugin included in Pd-extended 0.43 is the search plugin.
 
 .hc
 
 On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
 
 I believe it's included with the pd-extended 0.43 beta.
 
 --
 Dan Wilcox
 danomatika.com
 robotcowboy.com
 
 
 On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
 Hi Dan,
  Was the plugin included in some version of Pd you downloaded, or did 
 you install
 it yourself?
 
 I think there was a thread about a plugin that would turn plugins on and 
 off, but I think
 that feature needs to be in the core system.
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 
 From: Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at 
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43
 
 
 Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was complaining. I was just wondering 
 if there was some mechanism to enable/disable plugins without requiring 
 manually adding/deleting the tcl scripts. Yes I know I could step up and 
 make it but my plate is already full of doing such things ... :P That 
 being said, perhaps my question sparks interest in someone else?
 
 
 On Nov 24, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
 
 
 
 On Nov 24, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
 
 On Nov 23, 2012, at 4:28 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:
 
 From: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
 
 Subject: Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43
 
 Date: November 23, 2012 11:46:29 AM CST
 
 To: pd-list@iem.at
 
 
 On 11/23/2012 06:06 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
 
 On a related note, is there a way to disable the object drop bar that
 appears in the top of the canvas window when editing. It will be great
 for beginners, but I find it a little annoying when it keeps shifting
 the canvas around.
 
 remove the relevante plugin (i don't know it's name though) from the 
 search path?
 load the disable-plugins plugin and disable the offending plugin?
 
 
 fgamsdr
 IOhannes
 
 
 Yeah, well duh I could do that. Maybe I'm asking more for a little 
 checkbox so I still have the option of re-enabling it ...
 
 
 
 Dan Wilcox
 @danomatika
 danomatika.com
 robotcowboy.com
 
 
 Hey Dan,
 
 I wrote that buttonbar to get the idea out there as a proof of concept.  
 Its not something I use, so I'm not working on it any more.  I'd love to 
 see someone pick it up and turn it into something fully polished.  Want 
 to take it on, Dan?  Basic Tcl is easy once you get over the slightly odd 
 syntax.
 
 
 .hc
 
 
 Dan Wilcox
 @danomatika
 danomatika.com
 robotcowboy.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43

2012-11-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes

 From: Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com; pd-list@iem.at 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43
 

Hrm whoops. It must be in my path from a while ago. I do think it should be 
included by default along with the plugin chooser as it would be super useful 
for students  beginners.

Someone would need to actively maintain it.

-Jonathan


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Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43

2012-11-26 Thread András Murányi
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  From: Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com; pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43
 
 
 Hrm whoops. It must be in my path from a while ago. I do think it should
 be included by default along with the plugin chooser as it would be super
 useful for students  beginners.

 Someone would need to actively maintain it.

 -Jonathan



It's me who maintains it (BTW don't send bugs to the bug tracker as the
plugin is not part of the distro).
Actively... well, there are some things on the TODO which I'm not yet sure
how to accomplish best. It's not wrong to say I'm not maintaining it
actively.

András
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Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43

2012-11-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:33 PM, András Murányi wrote:

 
 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  From: Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com; pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43
 
 
 Hrm whoops. It must be in my path from a while ago. I do think it should be 
 included by default along with the plugin chooser as it would be super 
 useful for students  beginners.
 
 Someone would need to actively maintain it.
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 
 It's me who maintains it (BTW don't send bugs to the bug tracker as the 
 plugin is not part of the distro).
 Actively... well, there are some things on the TODO which I'm not yet sure 
 how to accomplish best. It's not wrong to say I'm not maintaining it actively.


Your plugins-plugin is a valuable tool, so please ask for help here, if that's 
useful to you.

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Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43

2012-11-24 Thread Dan Wilcox
Yeah, well duh I could do that. Maybe I'm asking more for a little checkbox so 
I still have the option of re-enabling it ...

On Nov 23, 2012, at 4:28 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:

 From: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43
 Date: November 23, 2012 11:46:29 AM CST
 To: pd-list@iem.at
 
 
 On 11/23/2012 06:06 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
 On a related note, is there a way to disable the object drop bar that
 appears in the top of the canvas window when editing. It will be great
 for beginners, but I find it a little annoying when it keeps shifting
 the canvas around.
 
 remove the relevante plugin (i don't know it's name though) from the search 
 path?
 load the disable-plugins plugin and disable the offending plugin?
 
 
 fgamsdr
 IOhannes


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danomatika.com
robotcowboy.com





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Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43 was Re: can anyone make screencasts of 0.43 editing features?

2012-11-23 Thread Dan Wilcox
On a related note, is there a way to disable the object drop bar that appears 
in the top of the canvas window when editing. It will be great for beginners, 
but I find it a little annoying when it keeps shifting the canvas around.

On Nov 20, 2012, at 1:58 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:

 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 Subject: [PD] can anyone make screencasts of 0.43 editing features?
 Date: November 20, 2012 1:58:16 PM CST
 To: PD list pd-list@iem.at
 
 
 
 I would love to see a video of the new editing features in Pd-extended 0.43, 
 but I've never really done any screencast recording.  Anyone want to take 
 this on?  It could be anything from making a complete, narrative movie, or 
 just recording the clips and posting them so someone else can edit them into 
 a full narrative.
 
 Here's a description of some of them:
 http://puredata.info/Members/hans/new-editing-features-of-pd-extended-0-43-now-in-beta
 
 .hc


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Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43

2012-11-23 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig

On 11/23/2012 06:06 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:

On a related note, is there a way to disable the object drop bar that
appears in the top of the canvas window when editing. It will be great
for beginners, but I find it a little annoying when it keeps shifting
the canvas around.


remove the relevante plugin (i don't know it's name though) from the 
search path?

load the disable-plugins plugin and disable the offending plugin?


fgamsdr
IOhannes

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