Re: [PD] udp broadcasting with netsend: permission denied in Linux

2011-04-04 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
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On 04/03/2011 01:11 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:

> Is 0.43 ready to be used "seriously"? Last time i tried it (at least a
> few months ago), it looked very very "beta"

häh?
a few months ago, there was some beta-version of Pd available for
download (named "0.43.0test3" or so).
in the meantime, 0.43 has been officially released.

i would say that the main difference between a "test" (aka 'beta')
version of a software and an official release is, that the maintainer(s)
think that all the showstopping bugs have gone away.
(i also hope, that the maint's toughts are not the _only_ difference,
but that showstopping bugs have indeed been fixed).

if you don't trust in official releases, then you probably have to check
yourself, whether a given version fulfills your quality standards [*].

fgmasdr
IOhannes


[*] i'm aware that you personally do a lot of testing of 'experimental'
software, as can be seen in the bug-tracker. thanks for the reports, btw.
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Re: [PD] udp broadcasting with netsend: permission denied in Linux

2011-04-03 Thread Billy Stiltner
he version I have installed is test version4. I haven't installed the
latest release yet Once I do and find any bugs I'll be sure to let you
know. On another note. I downloaded max to compare to pd and max does
not run as good as pd. Also the juce library is not quite what I had
expected it to be. kind of slow.

On 4/3/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:
>
> Please report crashes!  We want to find those and fix them.  You can
> get the bug report form from the Help -> report bug menu.
>
> .hc
>
> On Apr 3, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Billy Stiltner wrote:
>
>> When I tried the prerelease it seemed to be a bit faster with the gui
>> for some reason but there were some crashes. I liked the layout of the
>> console window.
>>
>> On 4/3/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Apr 3, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
>>>
 On 04/03/2011 04:49 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
> broadcast should work with netsend/netreceive in pd 0.43

 Is 0.43 ready to be used "seriously"? Last time i tried it (at least
 a few months ago), it looked very very "beta"
>>>
>>> As much as pd 0.42.0 or 0.41.0 was ready to be used seriously.  We
>>> are
>>> at the point where we don't know of showstopping bugs, but I'm sure
>>> once people use it, they'll find some that we'll need to fix in
>>> 0.43.1, etc.
>>>
>>>
> and I think
> maybe Pd-extended 0.42.5

 Oh thanks, I'll try it. The project I was trying was made in Vanilla
 and I didn't dare open it in Extended in case there's some name
 clash with some abstraction of mine...
>>>
>>>
>>> Sad but true... I hope we can get the search order changed so that it
>>> goes project folder first, then this would not be an issue.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>>
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Re: [PD] udp broadcasting with netsend: permission denied in Linux

2011-04-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Apr 3, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:


On 04/03/2011 04:49 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


broadcast should work with netsend/netreceive in pd 0.43


Is 0.43 ready to be used "seriously"? Last time i tried it (at least  
a few months ago), it looked very very "beta"


As much as pd 0.42.0 or 0.41.0 was ready to be used seriously.  We are  
at the point where we don't know of showstopping bugs, but I'm sure  
once people use it, they'll find some that we'll need to fix in  
0.43.1, etc.




and I think
maybe Pd-extended 0.42.5


Oh thanks, I'll try it. The project I was trying was made in Vanilla  
and I didn't dare open it in Extended in case there's some name  
clash with some abstraction of mine...



Sad but true... I hope we can get the search order changed so that it  
goes project folder first, then this would not be an issue.


.hc




  ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!



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Re: [PD] udp broadcasting with netsend: permission denied in Linux

2011-04-03 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

On 04/03/2011 01:11 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:


Is 0.43 ready to be used "seriously"?



Well, "seriously" was probably not the right word here; I meant using it 
not for the sake of testing it (which of couse is a very serious purpose 
as well).


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Re: [PD] udp broadcasting with netsend: permission denied in Linux

2011-04-03 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

On 04/03/2011 04:49 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


broadcast should work with netsend/netreceive in pd 0.43


Is 0.43 ready to be used "seriously"? Last time i tried it (at least a 
few months ago), it looked very very "beta"




and I think
maybe Pd-extended 0.42.5


Oh thanks, I'll try it. The project I was trying was made in Vanilla and 
I didn't dare open it in Extended in case there's some name clash with 
some abstraction of mine...



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Re: [PD] udp broadcasting with netsend: permission denied in Linux

2011-04-02 Thread Philip Cunningham
Maybe PD must be run as root to do this?

Philip

On 3 Apr 2011, at 03:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:

>
> broadcast should work with netsend/netreceive in pd 0.43 and I think maybe 
> Pd-extended 0.42.5
>
> .hv
>
> On Mar 31, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've used netsend for broadcasting UDP packets to the local network for 
>> years, connecting to 255.255.255.255:5000 (or any other port >1024) and I 
>> never had problems under Windows.
>>
>> However in Linux it doesn't work, it doesn't connect. If I run Pd from a 
>> terminal, I see this error in the terminal output: "connecting stream 
>> socket: Permission denied (13)" (one of the few errors that don't appear in 
>> the pd console btw).
>>
>> I remember mentioning this some time ago and being told that it had been 
>> fixed, but it seems it isn't.
>>
>> Is there a way to circumvent this and be able to broadcast udp packets with 
>> netsend?
>>
>> thanks
>> m.
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Re: [PD] udp broadcasting with netsend: permission denied in Linux

2011-04-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


broadcast should work with netsend/netreceive in pd 0.43 and I think  
maybe Pd-extended 0.42.5


.hv

On Mar 31, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:


Hi,

I've used netsend for broadcasting UDP packets to the local network  
for years, connecting to 255.255.255.255:5000 (or any other port  
>1024) and I never had problems under Windows.


However in Linux it doesn't work, it doesn't connect. If I run Pd  
from a terminal, I see this error in the terminal output:  
"connecting stream socket: Permission denied (13)" (one of the few  
errors that don't appear in the pd console btw).


I remember mentioning this some time ago and being told that it had  
been fixed, but it seems it isn't.


Is there a way to circumvent this and be able to broadcast udp  
packets with netsend?


thanks
m.

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Re: [PD] udp broadcasting with netsend: permission denied in Linux

2011-03-31 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
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On 03/31/2011 07:41 PM, John Harrison wrote:
> Can you say more about disis netsend vs netsend?

use iemnet/udpsend :-)
(or mrpeach/udpsend)

> 
> Btw I've been using netsend and netreceive to broadcast through a network on
> linux without problems for years. My guess is you have a firewall up...

unlikely.
if the firewall  would be the problem, then you wouldn't get an error on
the console.
"broadcast" means to "send to all those who are listening".
a firewall impairs the listening capabilities, not the sending capabilities.


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Re: [PD] udp broadcasting with netsend: permission denied in Linux

2011-03-31 Thread John Harrison
Can you say more about disis netsend vs netsend?

Btw I've been using netsend and netreceive to broadcast through a network on
linux without problems for years. My guess is you have a firewall up...

...sent from my cell
On Mar 31, 2011 11:11 AM, "Ivica Ico Bukvic"  wrote:
> Use disis_netsend/netreceive, which provide this and other
functionalities.
>
> Ico
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf
>> Of Matteo Sisti Sette
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:51 AM
>> To: PD-List
>> Subject: Re: [PD] udp broadcasting with netsend: permission denied in
>> Linux
>>
>> By the way, if I try to connect to 192.168.2.255 (which is the broadcast
>> address for my actual local network) instead of 255.255.255.255, I get
>> the same error in the terminal, but in this case, in the Pd console I
>> also see the message "bad host?"
>>
>> On 03/31/2011 04:46 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've used netsend for broadcasting UDP packets to the local network
>> for
>> > years, connecting to 255.255.255.255:5000 (or any other port >1024)
>> and
>> > I never had problems under Windows.
>> >
>> > However in Linux it doesn't work, it doesn't connect. If I run Pd from
a
>> > terminal, I see this error in the terminal output: "connecting stream
>> > socket: Permission denied (13)" (one of the few errors that don't
appear
>> > in the pd console btw).
>> >
>> > I remember mentioning this some time ago and being told that it had
>> been
>> > fixed, but it seems it isn't.
>> >
>> > Is there a way to circumvent this and be able to broadcast udp
>> packets
>> > with netsend?
>> >
>> > thanks
>> > m.
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] udp broadcasting with netsend: permission denied in Linux

2011-03-31 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Use disis_netsend/netreceive, which provide this and other functionalities.

Ico

> -Original Message-
> From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf
> Of Matteo Sisti Sette
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:51 AM
> To: PD-List
> Subject: Re: [PD] udp broadcasting with netsend: permission denied in
> Linux
> 
> By the way, if I try to connect to 192.168.2.255 (which is the broadcast
> address for my actual local network) instead of 255.255.255.255, I get
> the same error in the terminal, but in this case, in the Pd console I
> also see the message "bad host?"
> 
> On 03/31/2011 04:46 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've used netsend for broadcasting UDP packets to the local network
> for
> > years, connecting to 255.255.255.255:5000 (or any other port >1024)
> and
> > I never had problems under Windows.
> >
> > However in Linux it doesn't work, it doesn't connect. If I run Pd from a
> > terminal, I see this error in the terminal output: "connecting stream
> > socket: Permission denied (13)" (one of the few errors that don't appear
> > in the pd console btw).
> >
> > I remember mentioning this some time ago and being told that it had
> been
> > fixed, but it seems it isn't.
> >
> > Is there a way to circumvent this and be able to broadcast udp
> packets
> > with netsend?
> >
> > thanks
> > m.
> 
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Re: [PD] udp broadcasting with netsend: permission denied in Linux

2011-03-31 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
By the way, if I try to connect to 192.168.2.255 (which is the broadcast 
address for my actual local network) instead of 255.255.255.255, I get 
the same error in the terminal, but in this case, in the Pd console I 
also see the message "bad host?"


On 03/31/2011 04:46 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:

Hi,

I've used netsend for broadcasting UDP packets to the local network for
years, connecting to 255.255.255.255:5000 (or any other port >1024) and
I never had problems under Windows.

However in Linux it doesn't work, it doesn't connect. If I run Pd from a
terminal, I see this error in the terminal output: "connecting stream
socket: Permission denied (13)" (one of the few errors that don't appear
in the pd console btw).

I remember mentioning this some time ago and being told that it had been
fixed, but it seems it isn't.

Is there a way to circumvent this and be able to broadcast udp packets
with netsend?

thanks
m.



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[PD] udp broadcasting with netsend: permission denied in Linux

2011-03-31 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

Hi,

I've used netsend for broadcasting UDP packets to the local network for 
years, connecting to 255.255.255.255:5000 (or any other port >1024) and 
I never had problems under Windows.


However in Linux it doesn't work, it doesn't connect. If I run Pd from a 
terminal, I see this error in the terminal output: "connecting stream 
socket: Permission denied (13)" (one of the few errors that don't appear 
in the pd console btw).


I remember mentioning this some time ago and being told that it had been 
fixed, but it seems it isn't.


Is there a way to circumvent this and be able to broadcast udp packets 
with netsend?


thanks
m.

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