Re: [PD] bytebeat example

2020-02-12 Thread Simon Iten
nevermind, figured it out :-) lots of fun > On 12 Feb 2020, at 21:07, Simon Iten wrote: > > hi there, > > stumbled across your bytebeat example, great! > > i am using the all pd variant with expr~ (dexpr~). is there a way to change > the speed at which the formula runs? i assume it runs at

[PD] bytebeat example

2020-02-12 Thread Simon Iten
hi there, stumbled across your bytebeat example, great! i am using the all pd variant with expr~ (dexpr~). is there a way to change the speed at which the formula runs? i assume it runs at samplerate, but it is hard to change that dynamically, right? i did not succed with my first attempts.

Re: [PD] Automatically add deken packages to path ?

2020-02-12 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em qua., 12 de fev. de 2020 às 05:52, escreveu: > Hi, > > yes, it fixes the problem. > > I haven't used Pd heavily in recent times, > and wasn't aware of the [declare] thing (and I guess my general expectation > was that something installed by a package manager is available right away > without

Re: [PD] Automatically add deken packages to path ?

2020-02-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
The idea with [declare] is similar to Python "import". We have moved away from Pd-extended's "just load everything into the same name space" approach towards a more explicit declaration for paths and libs. This requires an extra step but it also *helps* make patches more portable in that it is

Re: [PD] start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread Ingo
Good link! Thanks! Ingo From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Mario Buoninfante Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 3:12 PM To: pd-list Subject: [PD] start and end point (WAV files) Hi, >From what I read this may be not needed, but for those interested

Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread Ingo
How would loopautitioneer automatically reed the loop points from within Pd and transfer them? I can reed the loop points externally with no problem. My problem is to set the loop points automatically from within Pd. Ingo From: José de Abreu [mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com] Sent:

Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread José de Abreu
hello all, i don't know if it is relevant, but my simple google search returned this software too: http://loopauditioneer.sourceforge.net/ LoopAuditioneer is a software for evaluating, creating and manipulating loops and cues existing in wav file metadata. It's envisionaged to be useful for

[PD] start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread Mario Buoninfante
Hi, >From what I read this may be not needed, but for those interested here you can find the wav specs http://www-mmsp.ece.mcgill.ca/Documents/AudioFormats/WAVE/WAVE.html Cheers, Mario ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] Automatically add deken packages to path ?

2020-02-12 Thread nik
Hi, yes, it fixes the problem. I haven't used Pd heavily in recent times, and wasn't aware of the [declare] thing (and I guess my general expectation was that something installed by a package manager is available right away without any further interaction). But now, if someone asks me why

Re: [PD] Automatically add deken packages to path ?

2020-02-12 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
there's a box in deken's preferences that you can check to make it ask if you want to add, or automatically add the path - but I don't see how you'd always want to do that, as sometimes you need to load a library in the startup or with [declare -lib] Em qua., 12 de fev. de 2020 às 02:56, Dan

Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread Giulio Moro via Pd-list
libsndfile also can extract loop points from a variety of formats. The relevant code for wav is here https://github.com/erikd/libsndfile/blob/master/src/wav.c#L1140-L1163 Kjetil Matheussen wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:56 AM Kjetil Matheussen wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM

Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread Kjetil Matheussen
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Ingo wrote: > > Thanks, Dan! > > > > They must be embedded in the "Marker Chunk" in AIFF and in the "Cue Point > Chunk" in the WAV format. > > This gives me a further idea for searching on. > > Yes, loops are usually defined as "Loop Start" and "Loop End" cues,

Re: [PD] Automatically add deken packages to path ?

2020-02-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
Deken initially did this, but there are problems with this approach as it partially negates the usage of [declare]. It is *highly* recommended to use [declare] moving forward. Do you use the Pd Documents directory? If so, the Documents/Pd/externals directory is part of the path so externals

Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread Ingo
Great! > -Original Message- > From: Kjetil Matheussen [mailto:k.s.matheus...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 11:24 AM > To: Ingo > Cc: Dan Wilcox; Pd-List > Subject: Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files) > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:56 AM Kjetil

Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread Ingo
Thanks a lot, Kjetil! That's the information that I have been looking for! Ingo > -Original Message- > From: Kjetil Matheussen [mailto:k.s.matheus...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 10:56 AM > To: Ingo > Cc: Dan Wilcox; Pd-List > Subject: Re: [PD] Sample loop - start

Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread Kjetil Matheussen
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:56 AM Kjetil Matheussen wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Ingo wrote: > > > > Thanks, Dan! > > > > > > > > They must be embedded in the "Marker Chunk" in AIFF and in the "Cue Point > > Chunk" in the WAV format. > > > > This gives me a further idea for

Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread Christof Ressi
Great! On 12.02.2020 09:31, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 12.02.20 01:21, Christof Ressi wrote: To be clear: I agree that Pd probably shouldn't support MP3 or other compressed audio formats by itself, it should just make it easy to add such support as plugins. totally. i've been talking with

[PD] Automatically add deken packages to path ?

2020-02-12 Thread nik
Hi, whenever installing a package with deken, I still have to add the path manually for the extensions to be found. The base path is present, but the package paths are not. Is this the expected behaviour ? If not, is there a setting so that the installed packages are found automatically ?

Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread Ingo
Thanks, Dan! They must be embedded in the "Marker Chunk" in AIFF and in the "Cue Point Chunk" in the WAV format. This gives me a further idea for searching on. Of course it would be fantastic to have reading this information directly implemented in the [soundfiler] object! Ingo

Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
I'm laughing myself silly/crying after wading through the details for almost *one month* of full time work. It's a balance of updating an almost 20 year old section of Pd *without* breaking what currently works while adding required features. If all y'all want updates/changes, you need to find

Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread Ingo
There are softwares like AwaveStudio that do nothing else but format conversion between different sampler formats that can handle the loop points as well. > I have been working with hardware samplers since the 80ies and used > (mainly) softwares like SoundForge or Wavelab for looping. > There

Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread Ingo
I have been working with hardware samplers since the 80ies and used (mainly) softwares like SoundForge or Wavelab for looping. There was no extra file. All hardware samplers could read the loops. Once a file was looped with one sampler it would be looped with the next one. Same thing with

Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12.02.20 01:21, Christof Ressi wrote: > To be clear: I agree that Pd probably shouldn't support MP3 or other > compressed audio formats by itself, it should just make it easy to add > such support as plugins. totally. i've been talking with dan about this, and we kind of came up with the start

Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)

2020-02-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 19:55 -0500, William Huston wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 5:07 PM IOhannes m zmölnig > wrote: > > > so *you* only need to implement whatever backend you want. > > keep in mind, that Pd doesn't depend on any external library for > > doing > > the encoding/decoding, and