OTOH, if "preferences" are left around from 0.53 to 0.54 that could
potentially cause trouble if something that was appropriate for 0.53
somehow crashes 0.54
"Wrong" preferences should never crash Pd in the first place... It would
be really great if Oliver would somehow manage to recreate the
On 6/22/23 11:50, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
On 22/06/2023 15:41, oliver wrote:
It seems to not overwrite the old installation completely,
or so it seems to me.
I think you runned the *new* installer whithout a prior uninstall (and
you overwrited files).
The new installer will (in the
On 22/06/2023 15:41, oliver wrote:
It seems to not overwrite the old installation completely,
or so it seems to me.
I think you runned the *new* installer whithout a prior uninstall (and
you overwrited files).
The new installer will (in the future) warn you and ask you to uninstall
Miller Puckette wrote:
Are you using the "installer"? I've been trying it and can't get it to
go wrong yet.
Yes, i did use the official installer.
It seems to not overwrite the old installation completely,
or so it seems to me.
(thanks for keeping the "portable" zipped version btw, saved my
Are you using the "installer"? I've been trying it and can't get it to
go wrong yet.
thanks
Miller
On 6/22/23 10:57, Kylee Kennedy wrote:
Hi Oliver,
Good tip on uninstalling 0.53 and then install 0.54. I'm on WIN 10 and
noticed my audio interface selections were missing Rearoute channels
Hi Oliver,
Good tip on uninstalling 0.53 and then install 0.54. I'm on WIN 10 and
noticed my audio interface selections were missing Rearoute channels from
Reaper when I installed 0.54 over the old pd app.
I reinstalled Reaper and they popped up. So far all my patches are working
fine but I think
Am 22. Juni 2023 15:31:44 MESZ schrieb oliver :
>
>Another strange thing:
>
>When entering startup flags in the preferences window ("font-weight" and
>"font-size" in my case): they can be set but the line is empty after a close
>and restart of PD.
>
>The values are set correctly on startup
just some more minor reports:
WIN 7 /64bit
i downloaded and installed PD 0.54.0-test1 and installed it over PD 0.53
which didn't go down well at all.
The new audio engine (portaudio) would crash PD when selecetd and the
preferences interface was a hybrid of the old and new one ...
Only
anyhow, this is not something i think worth spending my time on.
Agreed :)
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On 6/21/23 21:25, Christof Ressi wrote:
Also, I just wiped my Pd preferences on macOS and started the new app.
The preferences are indeed tabbed by default,
ah thanks for confirming.
good to know it works.
but strangely "Tabbed
preferences" is not ticked (unlike on Windows).
the value is
To make things more fun, the TclTk included in the mac/stuff/ (which is the
version that most people will get when building the app themselves) is one that
crashed for me.
Side note: we should really update the prototypes for macOS and Windows
at one point. msw/pdprototype.tgz still contains
Also, I just wiped my Pd preferences on macOS and started the new app.
The preferences are indeed tabbed by default, but strangely "Tabbed
preferences" is not ticked (unlike on Windows).
Except for that little quirk everything seems to work as intended. Sorry
again for the confusion!
maybe it's after all some weird configuration on your side?
A... yes. I just started with -noprefs and now Pd opens with tabbed
preferences enabled by default. Sorry for the noise!
Anyway, nice work! :)
On 21.06.2023 21:08, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
On 6/21/23 20:18, Christof Ressi
On 6/21/23 20:18, Christof Ressi wrote:
Anyway, my take-away is that a simple runtime check for Tcl/Tk 8.x+
could be a viable solution.
This pretty much exactly describes what is happening in the current
master branch.
I'm slightly baffled that the default is to*not* use tabs, because
Anyway, my take-away is that a simple runtime check for Tcl/Tk 8.x+ could be a
viable solution.
This pretty much exactly describes what is happening in the current master
branch.
I'm slightly baffled that the default is to*not* use tabs, because iirc it
should use them.
But then, the
Am 21. Juni 2023 12:42:25 MESZ schrieb Dan Wilcox :
>I think min Tk version for macOS and tabs should be 8.6.10 or 11. We may
>possible also need an os version check, hopefully not.
My code explicitly checks for TclTk<<8.6.12 (and >= 8.6), so I think I tested
and it crashed with 8.6.11.
To
Here's something else that came up... what to do in binops with
multichannels of different sizes?
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/2009
Em qua., 21 de jun. de 2023 às 13:42, IOhannes m zmölnig
escreveu:
> Am 21. Juni 2023 13:42:48 MESZ schrieb Christof Ressi <
>
Am 21. Juni 2023 13:42:48 MESZ schrieb Christof Ressi :
>Thanks for clarifying!
>
>Anyway, my take-away is that a simple runtime check for Tcl/Tk 8.x+ could be a
>viable solution.
This pretty much exactly describes what is happening in the current master
branch.
I'm slightly baffled that the
Yup, and we already have such checks for the ttk stuff at the top of
pd-gui.tcl. If tabs aren’t supported, then dialogs and their related menu items
should be added, otherwise the single menu item for the preferences.
enohp ym morf tnes
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Thanks for clarifying!
Anyway, my take-away is that a simple runtime check for Tcl/Tk 8.x+
could be a viable solution.
On 21.06.2023 13:39, Dan Wilcox wrote:
It nominally uses the Tk frameworks in the .app bundle *but* someone could
always build using a different Tk which could lead to
It nominally uses the Tk frameworks in the .app bundle *but* someone could
always build using a different Tk which could lead to issues. Also, people
trying to run Pd on the command line from the build folder without making an
app bundle end up using the system Tk. This works ok for testing
Thanks for the report! I can also confirm this for other drawing
instructions. I have opened a ticket on GitHub:
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/2007
On 21.06.2023 13:01, ro...@dds.nl wrote:
Windows 11
create [plot], open plot-help, open plot-template.
the visibility examples
Windows 11
create [plot], open plot-help, open plot-template.
the visibility examples only have visible effect when changing the size
of the plot-data window!
(in my own, more complicated, use of graphs i have to move the cursor in
and out of the graph-'window').
The "Save All Settings" buttons are redundant in the tabbed preferences
because hitting "Apply" or "Ok" already does that.
On 20.06.2023 22:50, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
We are missing a "Save All Settings" button on the tabbed prefs for
"Audio" and "MIDI" tabs.
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Mensaje telepatico
Thanks for chiming in!
Tabs should default unless a min version check on the platform fails.
That's what I figured.
especially the buggy one that used to be included with macOS itself.
Wouldn't the Pd app prefer the bundled Tk version? (I don't know these
things work on macOS.)
Christof
I think min Tk version for macOS and tabs should be 8.6.10 or 11. We may
possible also need an os version check, hopefully not.
The main thing to avoid is if anyone runs an older Tk 8.6, especially the buggy
one that used to be included with macOS itself.
enohp ym morf tnes
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I agree. Tabs should default unless a min version check on the platform fails.
The original suggestion for making the option to still host dialogs in windows
was mine, I believe, large for this reason, ie. building for OS X 10.6 and Tk
8.4 which doesn’t have the tabs widget.
enohp ym morf tnes
basically, because some TclTk versions on macOS would just crash when
using tabs.
Wow, Tk never ceases to amaze me...
Does this also happen with the Tcl/Tk version that is included in the
"official" macOS app bundle?
Could we do a runtime check for specific Tcl/Tk versions that are known
On 6/20/23 19:12, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
So great, can't remember being this excited about a release, thanks!
A few things. Looks like we have the double precision app. At least deken
i expected something like this (as a side-effect of recent side-by-side
single/double installation
On 6/20/23 20:35, Christof Ressi wrote:
First off: thanks Miller for this historic release :-)
I just discovered the new tabbed preferences and I really like them!
Thanks IOhannes!
Question: why do we have both tabbed and non-tabbed preferences? This
feels very weird to me. I don't see any
We are missing a "Save All Settings" button on the tabbed prefs for
"Audio" and "MIDI" tabs.
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On 20/06/2023 15:53, Christof Ressi wrote:
Side note: on macOS, "Pd->Settings..." shows tabbed preferences by
default, but "Pd->Preferences->Edit
Thanks Miller, multi-sig lines are something I've dreamed of.
very best,
a.
On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 08:49:15PM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> To Pd-announce:
>
> Pd version 0.54-0test1 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> or (source only) via github:
Em ter., 20 de jun. de 2023 às 16:28, Christof Ressi
escreveu:
> [fft~] and [ifft~] still single-channel, but personally I don't care
> because I have never used them :-)
>
I wouldn't care either for the same reason but I do have for consistency
reasons and also that it'd be much easier to
and that the other fft objects can't handle it yet
actually, [rifft~] *can* handle multi-channel signals, it just missed
the CLASS_MULTICHANNEL flag. I just pushed a fix to develop.
[fft~] and [ifft~] still single-channel, but personally I don't care
because I have never used them :-)
Side note: on macOS, "Pd->Settings..." shows tabbed preferences by
default, but "Pd->Preferences->Edit Preferences..." is non-tabbed by
default...
On 20.06.2023 20:35, Christof Ressi wrote:
First off: thanks Miller for this historic release :-)
I just discovered the new tabbed preferences
oh, I also see rfft~ takes multichannel signals, but this is not yet
documented and that the other fft objects can't handle it yet, I created
this ticket for it in pddp https://github.com/pure-data/pddp/issues/153
Em ter., 20 de jun. de 2023 às 14:12, Alexandre Torres Porres <
por...@gmail.com>
First off: thanks Miller for this historic release :-)
I just discovered the new tabbed preferences and I really like them!
Thanks IOhannes!
Question: why do we have both tabbed and non-tabbed preferences? This
feels very weird to me. I don't see any advantages in the non-tabbed
So great, can't remember being this excited about a release, thanks!
A few things. Looks like we have the double precision app. At least deken
detects *Darwin-amd64-float64* and Pd refuses to load my externals.
By the way, I hope there is time to merge the branch where both float32/64
live
To Pd-announce:
Pd version 0.54-0test1 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
New features include multi-channel signal connections and updated
windows audio. The new window version uses an audio subsystem that
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