Re: [PD] How's Pd limited?

2016-02-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
There are plenty of Pd patches just as unreadable. When a large number of users are getting value out of code that unreadable, we need to ask more fundamental questions than whether the visual noise includes more or fewer right angles. -Jonathan On Monday, February 22, 2016 3:25 PM, Matt

Re: [PD] How's Pd limited?

2016-02-22 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2016-02-22 17:25 GMT-03:00 Matt Barber : > I've said this before, but I think there are very good reasons not to ever > include segmented patch cords (although hideable patch cords would be even > worse). These two features are responsible for some of the very worst >

Re: [PD] How's Pd limited?

2016-02-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hi Eugene,Great post! I help develop pd-l2ork, and it addresses some of the points below.  I recently got it building on OSX with most of the pd-extended libraries. I'll reply to each point below... > On Monday, February 22, 2016 4:21 AM, Eugene Lazarchik >

Re: [PD] How's Pd limited?

2016-02-22 Thread Niklas Reppel
Well yeah lots of people jabber about how Max/MSP is an "industry standard" and how badly documented Pd is (which might have been true 10 years ago, but not today), and generally seem to be afraid of free software ... incidentially, most of those use a Mac ;) About the comparison to SC, well,

Re: [PD] How's Pd limited?

2016-02-22 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Or SC :) 2016-02-22 11:12 GMT-03:00 Matt Barber : > Over the years, the most common complaint I've heard about Pd's > limitations is that it's not identical to Max/MSP. > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:19 AM, Eugene Lazarchik < > evgenius.lazarc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Where

Re: [PD] How's Pd limited?

2016-02-22 Thread Matt Barber
Over the years, the most common complaint I've heard about Pd's limitations is that it's not identical to Max/MSP. On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:19 AM, Eugene Lazarchik < evgenius.lazarc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Where do I start? > > * Dynamic patching is officially not supported and bug/feature

Re: [PD] How's Pd limited?

2016-02-21 Thread Niklas Reppel
Hmm, i always thought that the dynamic creation and destruction of sound sources (oscillators etc.) pretty inconvenient in PD, compared to a source-code based approach. Maybe i missed some developments here, but the last time i checked (a year ago maybe), this was clearly quite a hassle, even

[PD] How's Pd limited?

2016-02-21 Thread Matti Viljamaa
Perhaps a bit of broad question, but I find it interesting in order to speculate about future additions. How do you think Pure Data is limited? ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->

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